UTF
09-21-2008, 07:41 AM
This isn't a thread containing a video per say, but it felt like the most fitting board to ask this question.

I've lost a lot of confidence in myself recently. mostly based on feedback on AMV.org. I need a new project to inspire me to get out of my rut, if it's possible.

So I ask unto you, people of this forum:

Would you like to see another AMV Heck, or better yet, like to help me make another AMV Heck?

DaMetzger
09-21-2008, 10:57 AM
AMV Heck wasn't bad, but it wasn't exactly great either. I really liked some of the clips (the Eddie Izzard one especially), others were too long (Men in Thighs, Rasputin, the Gurren Lagann one). In short: I'll probably watch if you make a second one, but I don't really care if you do.

Filleffs
09-21-2008, 11:20 PM
My answer is: Definitely.
I love your amv's man

Jazean
09-22-2008, 01:39 AM
its always nice to see a new collection, i'd watch it.

AMVP
09-22-2008, 02:30 AM
the passion was there, but to be honest, it was very hit-or-miss (emphasis on the miss). Still, I'd encourage you to give it another go; maybe things will get better. If not, you could contribute to some other projects, or maybe work on none hellesqe stuff (your prowess certainly seems formidable).

SV3N
09-22-2008, 05:31 PM
I would like to see another one as well ;D

FLCL Zombie
09-23-2008, 04:30 AM
I enjoyed the first so a second helping would be nice :)

UTF
09-26-2008, 09:00 AM
2nd phase of this research.

What clips did you like the most/hate the most, and why?

If I'm to try again, I need to know what not to do.

AMVP
09-26-2008, 07:41 PM
Alow me to say what I will:

-Opening, while well done, is too dang long (the novelty of what's happening quickly wears off).

-All is well up til the UHF/FMA clip (to close to the source material to be funny).

-NO GREEN GREEN! EVER!

-The Bleach/AoD clip is well done, but Hell 4 beat you to it.

-Teen Girl Squad=Epic Win

-The FMA clip following it=not so much (see point #2)

-I pesonally loved the Tokyo tomote clip (no clue if that's how you spell it), but for some reason the guys I watched it with didn't agree. Still gets my vote, though.

-Speed Grapher/Transvestite clip & the Naruto snake clip are kinda awkward and lame. Sry.

-SIMON! :3

-Leroy jenkins... :(

-Midnight bomber & Golden Boy clips... ?

-FMA/MwC= win again

-Gurren Lagaan/Big robot, to obscure in, again, close to the source (remember, humor's all about denying expectations).

-Haruhi's been done to death. Either bring gold or go home

-Desu/FYC= That's more like it.

-Scryed dub, very clever, good job

-Falcon Punch: just no. Sry agn. (note: just realized the guy looks like a falcon. better, but still no.)

-Rasputen- like the song, clip doesn't work.

-I get the sam & max gag, but it's a bit counter productive when "Sam & Max" is an audible part of the song and goes against what we're seeing.

-Bill clinton-lulz

-no more Linkon park. bit of a hell 4 ripoff.

-Like the FLCL clip, but not because it's funny.

-Nicely done inspecter gadget clip, if a bit too long (keep em quick)

-Iron man: again, already done

-Penguin- can't believe noone thought of this before

-SP godhand clip: another no

-Men in tights: perhaps a good stand alone clip, but not for a Hell project

-Purple people eater: like it better than Hell's, but still...

-FLCL/electric avenue: ?

-GL/Knife- okay

-Cowboy bebop/beta- okay again

-brother/sister- 0_0

-Jackie Chan song- no. sry

-Family Guy/Elfin Leid- okay

-Ninja Nonsense/Disgea- Like it, but a friend actually thought it was the origional audio.

-microwave:kay

-hobbits to eisengard- YES!

-jog with knives- pretty good

-Transformers/azudaioh: Nice weird one

-boku/rise from grave- no. sry

-ghost busters- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. SRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY

-alter boy- why don't more people use his songs?

-bugle boys- kay

-rose bud peas- penis? heh

-ridge racer-no

-guns kill people- no

-Gandi 2- yes

-fosters beer- no

-rozen madien/toy story- good

-dk rap- no

-pepsi: I love this song. so much.

-watching you pee- been done, but still better

-pharmacy- too inside

-pantys- *thumbs up*

-spartans- meh.

-happy/eva- sure

-hands in my pocket- no

-chiwawa- okay

-metal gear/fma- well done, still too long

-robot war/elfin leid- nah

-azudaioh/billy madison- I've seen it better

-team rocket- NO

-DN/eddie izzard- YES!

-anchor man/Lucky star- EPIC YES!

kay, i'm done.

UTF
09-26-2008, 08:15 PM
Alow me to say what I will:


Thank you very much for your diligent input. In my defense though, I had been planning this project since Hell CE. Those clips that were also in Hell 4 are completely coincidental. I actually had to remove some more (Giant Enemy Crab for one) because I knew I couldn't top the one in Hell 4.

So your overall thoughts are, the ones that show a parallel are not funny/not as funny as the ones that actually have a punchline in the source audio?



-team rocket- NO

Now you're just talkin' crazy.

DaMetzger
09-26-2008, 08:30 PM
-NO GREEN GREEN! EVER!
(...)
-pantys- *thumbs up*

Inconsistent much? ;)
Other than that I mostly agree.

AMVP
09-27-2008, 02:45 AM
-NO GREEN GREEN! EVER!
(...)
-pantys- *thumbs up*

Inconsistent much? ;)
Other than that I mostly agree.


The clip I was referencing contained only pantys, not girls wearing them. As for Green Green: worst. harem. anime. EVER.

azusaka110
09-27-2008, 02:52 AM
Green Green does suck...I will agree.

Filleffs
09-27-2008, 02:53 AM
xcept episode 13... I lol'd =P

azusaka110
09-27-2008, 02:55 AM
xcept episode 13... I lol'd =P

FINALLY FIXED MY SIG!

er...off topic for one post- make it my avatar?

waofy
10-02-2008, 02:59 AM
I can't understand why some people weren't impressed by AMV Heck, I thought it was pretty much on par with the AMV Hells and I'd love to see a sequel.

Some clips were quite long but they still worked (just could have been better if they were shorter). I thought there were a lot of gags that had been re-used but I suppose I can't blame you for that if it's been in development since CE.

AMVP was pretty comprehensive in his post so I think it's easier to just comment on what I agree / disagree on ;) (the forum really doesn't like long quotes so I copy/pasted instead):
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-Opening, while well done, is too dang long (the novelty of what's happening quickly wears off).
There was nothing wrong with the opening IMO, I thought it was just the right length and don't feel the need to skip it when re-watching.

-All is well up til the UHF/FMA clip (to close to the source material to be funny).
I thought the audio was a nice find. The only thing that spoiled it a bit for me was the length.

-NO GREEN GREEN! EVER!
The Green Green one was fine, it just lost some of its charm since the same clips were used in AMV Hell 4.

-The Bleach/AoD clip is well done, but Hell 4 beat you to it.
True :(

-Teen Girl Squad=Epic Win
Indeed.

-The FMA clip following it=not so much (see point #2)
I do agree on this one.

-I pesonally loved the Tokyo tomote clip (no clue if that's how you spell it), but for some reason the guys I watched it with didn't agree. Still gets my vote, though.
Thought it was brilliant too!

-Speed Grapher/Transvestite clip & the Naruto snake clip are kinda awkward and lame. Sry.
They were alright. Maybe not up to the same standard as the others but I don't think you've done any harm by leaving them in. They act as a good "buffer" for Simon.

-SIMON! :3
Genius!

-Leroy jenkins... :(
Although it's overused, Tomo/Leeroy Jenkins hasn't been done before and I found it amusing.

-Midnight bomber & Golden Boy clips... ?
Gunsmith Cats clip was great! Didn't really get the Golden Boy one though.

-FMA/MwC= win again
Yup, although the claps went on a tad too long (just being picky)

-Gurren Lagaan/Big robot, to obscure in, again, close to the source (remember, humor's all about denying expectations).
I'm not familiar with the series but I liked it because it fit so well with the music.

-Haruhi's been done to death. Either bring gold or go home
Have to agree with this.

-Desu/FYC= That's more like it.
Very very funny.

-Scryed dub, very clever, good job
Great innuendo :D

-Falcon Punch: just no. Sry agn. (note: just realized the guy looks like a falcon. better, but still no.)
I laughed. It's better than a lot of Captain Falcon parodies out there anyway.

-Rasputen- like the song, clip doesn't work.
I thought it worked. Can't explain why, it just did.

-I get the sam & max gag, but it's a bit counter productive when "Sam & Max" is an audible part of the song and goes against what we're seeing.
I thought it was alright. The music is also very similar to the original which seems to work as a bonus.

-Bill clinton-lulz
yes, hehehehe

-no more Linkon park. bit of a hell 4 ripoff.
Yeah, although I'm guessing the idea came before AMV Hell 4.

-Like the FLCL clip, but not because it's funny.
It was good but then again Kill Bill music works with pretty much any fight scene.

-Nicely done inspecter gadget clip, if a bit too long (keep em quick)
Yes, I agree.

-Iron man: again, already done
AMV Hell 4 again so I won't comment.

-Penguin- can't believe noone thought of this before
Yes, really good.

-SP godhand clip: another no
Another one that Hell 4 beat you to.

-Men in tights: perhaps a good stand alone clip, but not for a Hell project
Love the song but yeah, maybe too long for the project.

-Purple people eater: like it better than Hell's, but still...
I didn't see much wrong with it, it worked.

-FLCL/electric avenue: ?
Couldn't see any gag either but the clips fit with the lyrics.

-GL/Knife- okay
I laughed :D

-Cowboy bebop/beta- okay again
I found it really funny for some reason.

-brother/sister- 0_0
Yes 0_0. Not bad just very creepy...

-Jackie Chan song- no. sry
Nothing wrong with it IMO. Not funny, just a typical AMV clip.

-Family Guy/Elfin Leid- okay
It was alright but didn't need the sound at the end.

-Ninja Nonsense/Disgea- Like it, but a friend actually thought it was the origional audio.
Yes, that's the only problem when things fit "too well".

-microwave:kay
Yes and awwww...

-hobbits to eisengard- YES!
My god, the highlight of the whole video!! I recognised the song immediately but didn't get the connection at all until about a second after the lyrics kicked in. It was the delay that made it so hilariously funny. It's like the Vegeta clip in AMV Hell 3 and it's the thing that has stayed in my mind after watching AMV Heck.

-jog with knives- pretty good
Yup, pretty good.

-Transformers/azudaioh: Nice weird one
I agree.

-boku/rise from grave- no. sry
Yeah, it wasn't that funny.

-ghost busters- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. SRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY
Loved it, great editing on the gates of hell :P

-alter boy- why don't more people use his songs?
hehe, it was pretty good.

-bugle boys- kay
mmm yeah

-rose bud peas- penis? heh
I lol'd at this

-ridge racer-no
Hey, but it was the first time where there's been a car actually racing on a ridge so it definitely worked ;)

-guns kill people- no
It was a nice gag.

-Gandi 2- yes
lmao

-fosters beer- no
Would have been better if there was something Aussie-related.

-rozen madien/toy story- good
Yes, good match.

-dk rap- no
Yeah, Gundoh is parodied a bit too much.

-pepsi: I love this song. so much.
Brilliant!

-watching you pee- been done, but still better
I don't care if it's been done before, Batou's face makes it priceless.

-pharmacy- too inside
My friends said they really liked this one and I thought it was okay.

-pantys- *thumbs up*
Yup, works well.

-spartans- meh.
Seemed to go on a bit but the punch line at the end made up for it.

-happy/eva- sure
Alright for a short.

-hands in my pocket- no
I laughed.

-chiwawa- okay
Worked well if you ignore the fact that Ein is a corgi :P

-metal gear/fma- well done, still too long
The length didn't matter to me, it was really good!

-robot war/elfin leid- nah
Kind of funny, just for its randomness.

-azudaioh/billy madison- I've seen it better
It was alright. Funny because you knew who he was going to be talking to.

-team rocket- NO
Worked really well IMO.

-DN/eddie izzard- YES!
Yes, can't understand why this hasn't been done before.

-anchor man/Lucky star- EPIC YES!
Loved Anchorman and it fit brilliantly (also liked the credits).

kay, i'm done.
I wasn't writing these comments to criticse your review or anything. I just found it a nice template to voice my opinion :).
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Also, I'd be up for submitting some clips if you made AMV Heck 2 an open project. I have some ideas and I doubt I'll be starting one of my own anytime soon.

Jazean
10-02-2008, 03:34 AM
okay i guess i have to go watch Heck 1 again, where the hell did i leave that link...

and i still say make another one, humor varies from person to person, but length is always considered an issue. its called sort and sweet for a reason.

EDIT: well i'm back from watching Heck 1, and i vote a resounding YES, that was good, seconds couldn't be a bad idea.

UTF
10-03-2008, 08:35 AM
Thank you guys for your kind words and encouragement. I will begin work on Heck 2, and when the time comes, I would be honored if some of you guys could beta test it for me.

acutekat
11-17-2008, 10:08 PM
i would love a heck II
its is my favrote non hell AMV (i beleive i have said this before but it bears repeating)
the leeroy jenkins part was awesome sauce

now if you could incorperate some more internet randomness that would be great

that just me some people don't like this idea i know
but the point of a good amv hell esque type of show is that it draws on a number of comic wells

Lord_Oknek
11-18-2008, 12:49 AM
Yes.
More AMV Heck.