Luppi-tan
08-19-2009, 12:34 AM
Okay, so this topic is somewhat self explanatory. What do you think were the worst anime endings in the history of anime endings? Personally, I thought that the ending of Fruits Basket SUCKED! I don't know about any of you, but the ending to the Fruits Basket anime made me wanna puke. Unfortunately, the anime itself wasn't much better, though the manga was amazing. One anime that I did like was Howl's Moving Castle. I hated the ending, though. It was way too cliche for my taste.

scarmullet
08-19-2009, 12:42 AM
Kite

The guy gets randomly shot by a kid after all him and Sawa went through together get away from being Assassins.

on another note, Kite Liberator, IT ENDS JUST LIKE The SOPRANOS! (Just not in mid sentence).

Luppi-tan
08-19-2009, 12:49 AM
Ah, you're a fan of A Clockwork Orange.
Personally, I despised the ending of the Elfen Lied anime, where he's walking out to the front yard to see who's at the gate, and then the clock starts working again (good symbolism) and then as the clock is ringing noon, it goes to a black screen that says "Das Ende"

abyssion1337
08-19-2009, 01:28 AM
I disagree, Elfen Lied had a fantastic ending

and this doesn't seem like a very good thread idea

Filleraol
08-19-2009, 02:36 AM
I've seen so many animes with bad endings Dx this brings back bad memories
The most recent one is D.gray-man ...It ended just as Inuyasha did..
Inuyasha seems to have been picked up again tho, now when the manga has finished (i think) and is gonna be continued starting this fall or winter...I hope the same thing happens to D.gray-man in the future
Don't care too much anymore tho...kinda hate the show after that bad "ending"

abyssion1337
08-19-2009, 03:26 AM
but Inuyasha's ending wasn't actually an ending

Luppi-tan
08-19-2009, 08:12 PM
Well, I'm sorry that you don't like this thread idea, but since it seems like you rarely have anything nice to say to me, I don't take it personally. However, I do appreciate your opinion on the Elfen Lied anime. Personally, though, I think the manga's ending really beat the crap out of the anime's ending. For the anime, it was like they were leaving you on a cliffhanger so that they could introduce a second season later. Since a second season obviously didn't come, it seems rather pointless to have left us at a cliffhanger. Of course, this is just my opinion.

abyssion1337
08-19-2009, 08:31 PM
I thought it was ambiguous enough to work and I do enjoy ambiguity

Luppi-tan
08-19-2009, 08:38 PM
Ambiguity can work if they plan to leave you hanging for sales purposes. Like Elfen Lied. If they wanted to make sure that everyone was going to buy the second season, had they decided to make one, I would have completely agreed that it was a good idea to leave a cliffhanger so that more people would buy the second season. As they had no intention to clear up the ambiguity, it seems, in my opinion to be ambiguity for the sake of ambiguity, and personally, I'm not a fan of that kind of thing. In fact, I'm not really much of a fan of anything for it's own sake.

NodMan
08-20-2009, 04:18 AM
Great Teacher Onizuka.

abyssion1337
08-20-2009, 06:26 AM
Ambiguity can work if they plan to leave you hanging for sales purposes. Like Elfen Lied. If they wanted to make sure that everyone was going to buy the second season, had they decided to make one, I would have completely agreed that it was a good idea to leave a cliffhanger so that more people would buy the second season. As they had no intention to clear up the ambiguity, it seems, in my opinion to be ambiguity for the sake of ambiguity, and personally, I'm not a fan of that kind of thing. In fact, I'm not really much of a fan of anything for it's own sake.

I disagree with that sentiment, from an art point of view ambiguity is phenomenal also it wasn't actually much of a cliffhanger really besides while I don't hat finality it can be pretty boring

acutekat
08-20-2009, 09:48 PM
abyss i think you are an intelligent and reasonable human being

abyssion1337
08-20-2009, 10:10 PM
that's kinda stupid

acutekat
08-20-2009, 10:31 PM
well if you say so

abyssion1337
08-20-2009, 10:53 PM
well aren't we a bit funny, not bad but next time don't join the discussion if you can't be bothered to be mature enough to take criticism

acutekat
08-21-2009, 01:48 AM
hey man you set it up perfectly


absolutely perfectly it was fantastic


i got a screen shot




edit:

for those of you just joining us i had mentioned that all endings kind of sucked

to which abyss replied that, that was kinda stupid

in which my response was to edit my post to what you see know

hilarity ensueing

-to defend my point

almost always when something ends it doesn't do so in a fashion i like
it takes a fantastic writer to make me like the ending
usually it just ends up being mediocre

abyssion1337
08-21-2009, 02:01 AM
not exactly, and making a generalized statement like that wasn't very smart; it just sounds stupid, make sure to elaborate otherwise people will think you're just an idiot

acutekat
08-21-2009, 02:09 AM
generalized statements sum up greater arguements in smaller areas, granite mine wasn't the best generalization i could have made however i still say i don't like endings

its just the way people go about them that just turns me off

abyssion1337
08-21-2009, 02:45 AM
I disagree, I think that if it's vast enough to be called generalized then it only leaves large holes in any argument

acutekat
08-21-2009, 02:52 AM
you'll always leave holes in arguments no matter what

abyssion1337
08-21-2009, 02:53 AM
not necessarily

acutekat
08-21-2009, 02:56 AM
oh yes if an arguement is to have a point then it has information so vast that one cannot possibly cover in such an argument nor completely accurately

abyssion1337
08-21-2009, 04:23 AM
no, I've had arguments of mere facts, where one person is clearly right and the other just mistaken or so clearly denying the truth to not be wrong

acutekat
08-21-2009, 04:41 AM
true but when you go into deeper and mor philisohpical discussion it starts getting muddled


i've made my final point i suggest you do the same

im ending my arguement i have my opinion you have yours and thats the way it shall remain

abyssion1337
08-21-2009, 04:44 AM
I wouldn't call this an argument, we've mostly only agreed on things

acutekat
08-21-2009, 04:46 AM
an argument is a set of one or more meaningful declarative sentences (or "propositions") known as the premises along with another meaningful declarative sentence (or "proposition") known as the conclusion. A deductive argument asserts that the truth of the conclusion is a logical consequence of the premises; an inductive argument asserts that the truth of the conclusion is supported by the premises. Deductive arguments are valid or invalid, and sound or not sound. An argument is valid if and only if the truth of the conclusion is a logical consequence of the premises and (consequently) its corresponding conditional is a necessary truth. A sound argument is a valid argument with true premises.

and so we argue

abyssion1337
08-21-2009, 04:48 AM
you're too technical with things, I don't call this an argument because of the connotation the word argument carries, it is however a debate

acutekat
08-21-2009, 04:49 AM
ok ill give you that

in my rule book debate and arguement are about the samething

abyssion1337
08-21-2009, 04:57 AM
again you subscribe to a technical world, things for me aren't based on external definitions

acutekat
08-21-2009, 05:03 AM
well thats just what makes us different and unique now doesn't it?

abyssion1337
08-21-2009, 05:19 AM
please don't say "different and unique"

acutekat
08-21-2009, 05:21 AM
why bring back bad memories or something?

stupid post delay

abyssion1337
08-21-2009, 05:29 AM
because 'different and unique' is completely redundant

acutekat
08-21-2009, 05:33 AM
not entirely you can be different but not unique (like the goths or emos or valley girls or whatever) i might be convinced that different is superfluous

abyssion1337
08-21-2009, 05:43 AM
yes you can be different without being unique however you cannot be unique without being different, that's why it's redundant to use them together, don't test me when it comes to language

acutekat
08-21-2009, 05:49 AM
ill come up with a case in which you are unique and yet not different you'll see

*storms off

Luppi-tan
08-23-2009, 03:45 PM
Unique and different have been known to be used interchangeably. However, they do not mean exactly the same thing. You can be different without being unique. However, uniqueness implies that it is one of a kind, so therefore Unique is always different from anything else out there.

abyssion1337
08-23-2009, 06:00 PM
thanks professor cause that wasn't already explained in the last couple of posts

acutekat
08-24-2009, 01:16 AM
i have it

if you and someone you know have the exact same nose you two are to be said to have a unique similarity (since no one else has the exact same nose as another) ;HOWEVER, in this case you are not different but in fact the same

point proven back on topic


I really did not like the ending to the full meatal alchemist series (the first one)

it left too many loose ends

abyssion1337
08-24-2009, 01:49 AM
I wouldn't say too many holes and the few they did leave were covered in the movie

acutekat
08-24-2009, 02:11 AM
but they left it so it looked like a sequal would follow when none did i was ticked off

animefan900
08-24-2009, 02:32 AM
i think a lot of anime/manga companies try to leave their products with at least a slightly cliffhanger ending to make the fans come up with their own creative after-story. I absolutely HATE that idea but i suppose for some people its not so bad. I also hate endings that ruin the moment such as inukami. They were finaly happy together in the end and they just HAD to ruin the moment by making Youko angry and exploding Keita's cloths off once again *sigh* why can't more anime end like Full Metal Panic or Chobits that end with a good mood that you were hoping would come in the end?

abyssion1337
08-24-2009, 04:01 AM
they had planned on the movie finishing it off, which it did