Doomimus
02-27-2010, 04:44 PM
Constructive, thorough critique for each clip. What are each clip's strong points? What are their weak points? How can they be improved? Is the idea of the clip worth salvaging?
You know the drill. Take it away!
You may critique your own clips in here as well. You may want to take into account other's critiques before you do so.
Tazuto
02-27-2010, 06:57 PM
i thought all the clips were great especially the "i got to pee" xD
but i thought zarx was going to do the usual with my smoke clip not play all the parts together, so its not funny at all now Dx
Shirker
02-27-2010, 09:22 PM
Yeah, the smoke clip would've been funnier broken up (a running gag of subliminal messages in an AMV Minis? Perfect XD), but it's done now and can't be undone, unless there's a rerelease or somethin'. I still got a preety good laugh out of it though. It was brief and clever.
Will give a full critique after I watch a few more times.
Could have used a more diverse selection of series. 4 of them were Evangelion, out of 12 clips. That means Eva made up 1/3rd of the entire video. That and the Aqua Teen clip and the Beavis and Butthead one used some of the same shots (although slightly different because one used the new movie).
Also, I think the 'Toji dropping his pants' joke was already used in Hell 3.
For the most part, I thought it was just mimicry without a punchline. There were exceptions though, like the Mambo #5, Lucky Star with Family Guy, and The Aqua Teen clip with Evangelion.
Evileel
02-28-2010, 09:52 AM
Yes, thats a really big problem with Minis. They really lack some fresh new shows.
amb4manga
02-28-2010, 02:58 PM
Definitely better than AMV Minis 5.
Episode 6:
Galaxy Angel / Mambo No. 5: I heard the song in AMV Hell 4, but new choice of that anime is great. OMG @ the end of this clip.
Evangelion 1.01 / Aqua Team Hunger Force: Another sound clip and re-made Evangelion make this clip an excellent clip.
Evangelion / Carry on Screaming: LOL @ the end of the clip; that's funny!
Aria / Disney's The Little Mermaid: This clip is very strange, it's actually unbelievable.
Evangelion / The Wizard: That's classic! I knew that this is coming.
Lucky Star / Family Guy: Good job censor it @ the end. That's hilarious!
Elfen Lied / I Got a Pea: That's just wrong; however, it's funnier than before.
Evangelion / Beavis and Butthead Do America: Whoa! That's is almost too long, and I found this clip to be funny.
One Piece / Family Guy: This very good to me; America should censor for smoking.
Others clips that I don't like:
Clip 3: I'm not sure, but there's a song during the clip. I forgot what the song is, but oh well; it's good.
Clip 5: I think that the clip from AMV Hell 3 (Same song, different anime) is better than this one. Sorry!
Clip 8: This is an odd choice; what's the point of the Guitar Hero?
Clip 10: I never seen this anime nor the song itself. Not interesting!
Clip 11: What is the funny point? Is it suppose to be funny?
Last clip: I don't like Dora the Explorer theme song. It's just too annoying for me.
Overall, this is actually better, but need more improvement than the first four Minis. I will look forward to AMV Minis 7.
cheztuffy
02-28-2010, 05:22 PM
For those who didn't get the Escaflowne / Schnappi one, here's the famous video the audio is from:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe3FG4EOgyU
Note the resemblance in how Schnappi runs and moves compared to the Escaflowne dragon.
I'll add my critiques on other ones later, but my self-critique: it's short. I'm a firm believer in only using as much time as you need. As Shakespeare said, "Brevity is the soul of wit" :)
Shirker
02-28-2010, 09:21 PM
Alright here?s my full critique. =)
?Mambo no. 5? - This idea was used before, but I personally think this version does the song a lot more justice. Lol at the bitch-slap at the end.
?What the hell was I thinking??? - The first time around, I was too enthralled by the visuals to pay attention to the joke XD. Well done and well executed idea.
?I?d do me? - Would?ve been funnier without the show's audio in the beginning. It made the switch to Family Guy sound a bit awkward. I enjoyed the clip overall though.
?Trousers? - Didn?t much like the editing. Joke would?ve been funnier if I hadn?t seen it coming a mile away. The sound effect at the end was amusing though.
?Another one bites the dust? - Loved this one! A parody of a past AMV Hell clip? I think it?s safe to say that?s never been done before. Editing and synch made it that much better as well.
?Dying animal? - Another joke I saw coming. I got a chuckle outta this one though, just ran on a teeeeensy bit too long.
?The Wizard? - Just classic
?Guitar Hero? - This one wasn?t really funny, but it made up for it by being epic. That clip was fun to watch.
?Diane being a bitch? - One of my favorite clips of Family Guy. Very clever pairing it with Lucky Channel. The icing on the cake was the use of Akira flipping the audience off. That was a nice take on that punch line.
?Schnappi? - I just found this funny because it was random. Thanks for explaining the joke dude, now it?s a bit more humorous.
?Gunslinger? - Another one I absolutely loved. The timing was perfect.
?I gotta pee? - I?d already seen this once in the video directory, so it lost its punch seeing it here. Chuckle-worthy I suppose.
?We?re never gonna score!? - My favorite clip on the episode! I?m not a BnB fan, so I don?t know if the heartfelt background music was already there or added in. Either way, it MADE the clip. Editing was well done too. I still can?t stop laughing out loud when I see this one.
?Smoke? - Tazuno?s complaining isn?t without good reason. This would?ve been very clever and hilarious had it been scattered about the episode. That being said, I still think it was a funny clip. Or, er, clips
?Dora the Explorer? - This is just great. The spots of attempted lip-synching broke flow however. Just action scenes would?ve been fine. Still a clever and funny idea; I liked it.
Overall, the episode flowed much better than #5, and I loved #5. Beats it by just a hair.
kapparomeo
03-01-2010, 03:43 AM
“Gunslinger” - Another one I absolutely loved. The timing was perfect.
Thanks for the praise, Shirker.
Clip 11: What is the funny point? Is it suppose to be funny?
I'm sorry that you missed the joke, Amb4manga. Here's where I was coming from:
The line spoken in the Gunslinger Girl clip is taken from the crime caper starring Michael Caine, The Italian Job - The One With The Minis Driving About On Roofs. It's a classic line from a classic film, one which is old enough and widespread enough for me to have thought that most people would see the reference immediately. The anime reflects a similar occasion of catastrophic over-enthusiasm.
[Link to the original scene] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g_GeQR8fJo)
The clip isn't wholly reliant on an injoke though. Even if you're not familiar with the source material, general humour comes from the setting itself, not needing any external reference. We have a scene of bloody devastation, and the long, laden, hard, penetrating searching stare from the adult (and the presence of a child soldier) suggests that something harsh and severe is coming. However, that serious atmosphere, which leads us to believe that some savage castigation (or at the very least some callous, nihilistic remark) is in the offing, is instead surprisingly punctured by the noisy, clownish berating that does ensue.
If you're already a fan of Gunslinger Girl, the clip's doubly appropriate because that show does itself have an Italian setting! :)
kapparomeo
03-05-2010, 08:00 PM
MANbo No. 5
An effective bait-and-switch clip. I remembered seeing this music in the Hells and I was wondering why Zarxrax would commission a clip nearly identical to one that's gone before - which made the eventual cross-dressing climax a genuine surprise, and helped make it memorable.
Ultimate In Military Hardware
I feel that the overlaying worked against this clip - as there's considerable amount of detail in both the background image and the overlay, it made the image a little murky and difficult to make out. I can see the reasoning behind doing it - it keeps Shinji's image in the background for the zooming close-up on his face in the penultimate shot - but for clarity's sake it would have been better to have had the Eva's shots on the screen completely, instead of faded-out.
Would ya do me?
I'm impressed that two scenes from separate shows produced in separate hemispheres could cohere so closely - indeed, the join's so seamless that if it wasn't for the mention of Family Guy in the credits I'd have thought that scene was just lifted from Crayon Shin-chan neat. It speaks well of the editor's attentiveness to spot the link. I do think that the dialogue at the start is a necessary part of the clip - it's the set-up which creates a warm cocooon of harmless private fantasy instead of disturbing and discomfiting creepy voyeurism, and so makes it more appealing.
Carry On Bipolar Disorder & Assorted Mental Traumas
Waving my little Union Flag for British slapstick here! :)
People have been complaining about speech clips being too much Family Guy on the one hand and too much Adult Swim on the other, so a speech clip which consciously and successfully avoids both should help put those criticisms to rest. The Quake-scream at the end is a nice touch.
Another One Bites The Saga
In the same spirit as the first clip, a parody of a memorable clip from the earlier entries in the series. It's fairly straightforward and has a minimum of editing, but it gets the point across.
That Poor Animal
Top marks for the lip-syncing in this clip! The vibrating mouth to match the crooner's distended warbling was a great touch, one of those little things which really give the package polish. The choice of shots themselves is strong, too, and they tell their own story - the audience's expressions change to shock when they realise how awful the singing is, and then glitter with so-bad-its-good humour.
He Touched My Breast
Short, simple and sweet - the dialogue matches the expression perfectly.
Guitar Hero
http://www.dorsetrockonline.com/wp-content/uploads/Horns.jpg
Lucky Channel
The blurred finger was a good use of effects, and the clip in general was well-composed, with fair movement (especially Akira's drumming fingers) and strong lip-syncing.
Schnappi
I wasn't familiar with the source material, but that didn't compromise the clip. Seeing what would be - if it remained still - a hulking, bloated monster instead waddle about ungainly to a childlike tune was still able to raise a smile.
The Italian Job
N/A (my own clip)
I Gotta Pea
Pretty humdrum. There's a couple of well-matched shots - Nyu sobbing at "why is everyone laughing at me?" - but otherwise unexceptional. The point of the song is the pun - so thrusting the implication in our faces with the "watersports event" really misses the point.
Neon Beavis Buttheadion
As others have said, it's the proud, swelling, full-chested patriotic theme juxtaposed against Beavis's bottom-feeding spew which is key to this clip. While the audio forms this clip's backbone, though, the anime isn't redundant and is very useful in breathing flesh onto the bones to fill it out and make it entertaining. Every shot matches the speech well, complementing and emphasising it. The shrivelled prune of "Oh yeah..." was a personal favourite.
Are Ya Smokin' Yet?
I agree that this would have worked better split up, but I don't blame Zarxrax for not doing so. If you wanted the clip to be treated in a particular way, Tazuto, you really ought to have explained it - it wouldn't have taken that long to write a quick note in the Video Explanation box.
Dora the Explorer
Fun throughout, and it suits a spirit of youthful and vivacious adventure. The video quality does obviously take a dive during the speech segments, though - I suspect that the editor was putting screenshots in sequence rather than using overlays. It technically needs a little work, then, but the concept is sound
Tazuto
03-05-2010, 08:59 PM
oi i thought after spilting the clip up twice before he would do the same with mine, it was hard to get even that good of quality english dub episodes for love hina, the blurred finger was part of the show itself i didnt have to use effects, thats the whole reason i made the excel saga clip because of the first clip like that i saw in amv hell with the fist of the north star(i maybe could have made it better but its hard for me to get HQ resources)
AfroZenPizza
03-05-2010, 09:28 PM
For removal of confusion I will re-post later, and in a new post. My laptop gave me little warning of it's battery being low, and I was too lazy to use note pad. My apologies here.
Zarxrax
03-06-2010, 01:37 AM
oi i thought after spilting the clip up twice before he would do the same with mine,
I have no idea what you are talking about... I've never even seen a clip with that audio before.
abyssion1337
03-06-2010, 01:53 AM
I think and this is only a guess he's referring to the scream audio clip from Freakazoid which sounds vaguely similar
Doomimus
03-06-2010, 05:02 AM
Schnappi
I wasn't familiar with the source material, but that didn't compromise the clip. Seeing what would be - if it remained still - a hulking, bloated monster instead waddle about ungainly to a childlike tune was still able to raise a smile.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schnappi
Kyle X
03-06-2010, 06:41 AM
I'm sure I'm not the only one that noticed the Urusei Yatsura homage in the slap in the Mambo #5 clip. It was a genuine little geekout for me since I bothered to watch some anime classics a while ago.
..but I just had to say. Weeh.
synbad2
03-06-2010, 06:57 AM
Last clip: I don't like Dora the Explorer theme song. It's just too annoying for me.
That Dora one was freaking funny. my congrats to the editor of that one:praise:
AfroZenPizza
03-06-2010, 07:08 AM
Galaxy Angel/ Manbo #5
Strengths: Good selection of clips. Suprising ending.
Weaknesses: Scene transitions could use a little stricter/closer timing.
Personal note: "We're the girls of rock and roll" starts playing in my head. I hope you understand. :(
Evangelion/Aqua Teen
Strengths: Lip sync is good. Facial expressions match well. Believable mix.
Weaknesses: The video overlay creates a bit of a mess and takes a little enjoyability with it. Lip sync is lost after "You're right.". Maybe a picture in picture setup would have worked better.
Shin Chan/Family Guy
Strengths: Audio transition is smooth, video matchs very well.
Weaknesses: A bit too long, it lost some of the punch.
Evangelion/Carry On Screaming
Strengths: Video and audio are a match. The joke was good.
Weaknesses: Well the joke is good, it is too predictable.
Excel Saga/Another One Bites the Dust
Strengths: Good song, decent choice of video.
Weaknesses: It seems too rushed. The video and audio are out of alignment.
Aria/Little Mermaid
Strengths: Great example of how to use a lead-in. Lip sync is great. Facial expressions believable.
Weaknesses: The change in spoken laguage, combined with the voice change throws it off a bit.
Evangelion/Wizard
Strengths: Expressions are great, audio is great, sync is near perfect.
Weaknesses: None that I can think of. It is a triple S as mentioned by kapparomeo.
Today in class 5-2/Guitar Hero
Strengths: Reference to that certain game series is not ignorable, and is widely understood.
Weaknesses: Perhaps it is too close to another perfect clip. None, really.
Lucky Star/Family Guy
Strengths: Syncs up well. Don't have to know the material to understand, but the knowledge can add another, equally great bit of humor.
Weaknesses: Once again, none in my opinion.
Escaflowne/Schnappi
Strengths: Good fun without requiring knowledge of source material.
Weaknesses: Borderlines annoying, but the length is short enough to deal with that.
Gunslinger Girl/Italian Job
Strengths: Great linking of two great pieces of work.
Weaknesses: Could use a little work on the sync and expressions.
Elfen Lied/ I Got a Pea
Strengths: Alright pun.
Weaknesses: Overdone, and a similar use of the clip has been done.
Evangelion/Bevis and Butthead
Strengths: Great sync, and source. Very well thought out selection of clips.
Weaknesses: Shows up a few other clips. Once again, none, and I couldn't stop myself from pointing it out. Sorry other authors/creators.
One Piece/Family Guy
Strengths: Has masses of potential.
Weaknesses: Should have been split, Tazuto should have mentioned this.
Love Hina/Dora the Explorer
Strengths: Matches well, funny.
Weaknesses: Requires a little knowledge of video source to fully understand/enjoy. It was a little long, and the song is annoying.
As a whole
Strengths: Clip placement was good. All clips had better than decent quality.
Weaknesses: Too much Family Guy and Evangelion material. One Piece/Family Guy should have been split, and although it isn't Zarxrax's responsibilty to do so, questioning a split to increase quality wouldn't have been entirely uncalled for.
A plea: Don't kill me Zarxrax, please. I enjoy AMV Hell too much.
In the Series
Strengths: Maybe a little better than 5.
Weaknesses: Falls a little shorter than what I would have expected. Still great overall.
To my thoughts on the Tazuto mix-up: Perhaps Tazuto thought that something along the lines of the gags in Hell 2(Evangelion) and Hell 3(Azumanga) would occur, simply due to the nature of the video. Perhaps, somewhere(perhaps YouTube) those clips are all presented as one clip.
humnut
03-06-2010, 12:17 PM
"Galaxy Angel" - Liked the ending, though to be perfectly honest, I thought the previous clip of this with Brock from Pokemon just fit better. But, then again, I haven't seen Galaxy Angel, therefore, I should really be able to say jack. That being said it was still funny.
"Eva/Aqua Teen" - This one made me fall to the floor laughing. Well done, good sir.
"Do Me" - Ehh, was never a fan of the joke in Family Guy in the first place, so it seems to lack for me. I think it would be better if you could find some way to use the original audio from Silence of the Lambs instead. But that would be a stretch.
"Eva/Trousers" - Another miss for me. Though I do see the joke, thought the first time this was done was better.
"Another One Bites the Dust" - Sorry to be mean, but this seems like a lame copy of the Fist of the North Star clip. It just didn't have that WOW factor. You know, just that funniness. But this is my opinion, and everyone knows it ain't worth jack.
"Put it Out of it's Misery" - Laughed my ass off. All I should have to say.
"Touched my Breasts" - After the Troll 2 clip, I kinda saw this one coming, granted it is still funny. I'm a fan of these short and sweet ones, ya know. Right to the damn point.
"Guitar Hero" - Cool, I'll critique my own. I thought it was lame, how dare I use a music clip in something called AMV minis (Emphasis on the AMV part). The whole point behind this one is that I'm trying to bring diversity to the table. Not just Eva clips and Family Guy jokes. Ironically I shall vaguely quote Family Guy, Finding diversity in an AMV minis is like finding the black guy in an Ambercrombie and Finch catalog.
"Being a Bitch" - Huh. . . This family Guy clip actually did make me laugh, though more of a shock laugh. The sound quality could have been better, not ripped from youtube quality. other than that though, it was good.
"Creepy Crazy Dragon in What I Think is German" - I. . . like it.
"The Italian Job" - Ah Gunslinger Girl, one of my favorites. Have never seen the Italian Job, but will now make it a priority. Thank you. Oh, and about the clip, I thought it was hilarious, a good change of pace.
"PEE" - Am I the only one that doesn't find this crap-my-pants funny? It was okay, not horrible, not stab my eyes out with a rusty needle that a hobo used to streamline starburst. But just, you know, okay.
"No Scoring for Shinji" - Points for nostalgia. Was my favorite movie when I was like 10. Yeah, funny clip.
"Smokers' Subliminal Advertisement" - Ha, creative. Regardless of whether it needed to be split apart (I was wondering why it would go to black for that split second) it was Effing Funny as Hell!
"Su da Explora" - THIS ISN'T FUNNY (Kick Computer). JK, another on the fence one, because I get the overall joke, and that makes me laugh. . . but god do I hate that song.
Overall - Not as funny as 5, I don't think. But still good. I feel that it still needs that old AMV Hell feel. Oh and a request, STOP WITH THE F****** FAMILY GUY CLIPS! YES WE KNOW ITS A FUNNY SHOW, BUT IT IS GETTING REALLY F******* OLD! USE SOME AMERICAN DAD, MAYBE GO THROUGH SOME OLD CARTOON SHOWS, I DON'T KNOW! BUT JESUS IT IS GETTING OOOLLLLDDD!
That being said, good job everyone and can't wait for 7 (or AMV Hell 5, and for that fact Final Fantasy XIII)
AfroZenPizza
03-06-2010, 12:53 PM
Directed at Hamnut. Particularly this:
"PEE" - Am I the only one that doesn't find this crap-my-pants funny? It was okay, not horrible, not stab my eyes out with a rusty needle that a hobo used to streamline starburst. But just, you know, okay.
If you would have read through the previous posts, even just the previous post, you would have found at least two in agreement.
Elfen Lied/ I Got a Pea
Strengths: Alright pun.
Weaknesses: Overdone, and a similar use of the clip has been done.
I Gotta Pea
Pretty humdrum. There's a couple of well-matched shots - Nyu sobbing at "why is everyone laughing at me?" - but otherwise unexceptional. The point of the song is the pun - so thrusting the implication in our faces with the "watersports event" really misses the point.
scarmullet
03-06-2010, 04:23 PM
Its kinda hard to do the scene from Silence of the Lambs because there is a constant scream in the background. Not to mention I also went with the FG version because the difference between "****" and "do".
humnut
03-06-2010, 08:05 PM
Directed at Hamnut. Particularly this:
If you would have read through the previous posts, even just the previous post, you would have found at least two in agreement.
Pfft, readings for losers.
Its kinda hard to do the scene from Silence of the Lambs because there is a constant scream in the background. Not to mention I also went with the FG version because the difference between "****" and "do".
Hence, why it would be a stretch. But if done well, you have to admit, that would be pretty cool. Or at least impressive.
hosokawa37
09-23-2010, 04:08 AM
My Top 5:
1. Lucky Star - Family Guy
2. Shin-Chan - Family Guy
3. One Piece - Family Guy
4. NGE - ATHF
5. Escaflowne - Schnappi (Dinosaur clip)
I realize the Family Guy clips ARE gettin a lil old, I thought those three were pretty funny because they fit so well.
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