[jinzo64]

a new game.
this is a v.s game for seven daysish people will get to discuse who would win a fight between 2 different characters from one of the 4 anime,manga,games and movies.
then the person who posted the fight will judge on the best argument for the winner of the fight and pick a winner.
then the winner will post a new fight and be the judge this will run from the day the fight is posted to the same day the following week.
hope it makes sense.

i know mini example

jinzo64
hulk vs doomsday

barty64
doomsday would win because

fishfreek
hulk would win because

bladegraffiti
doomsday would win because

bladegraffiti it's your go

fight one konata izumi vs haruhi suzumiya

[Fishfreeek]

haruhi would win cause aliens and espers would ensure her victory

[Evileel]

Yes, Haruhi would easily win, coz Yuki would secretively help Haruhi with her inhuman powers. Also Haruhi is taller and bustier than Konata. Poor Otaku would be beaten pretty well by Haruhi.
http://i35.tinypic.com/16llj0p.jpg

Btw, we already had similar thread. However it wasn't very popular and have died quickly:
http://amvhell.com/showthread.php?t=2211
You sure want to create another one?

[BladeGraffiti]

Haruhi.......has the inability to lose period? Also including konata worships her.

[jinzo64]

anyone else only got til wednesday british time

[Leef]

konata... because this is a fight between just Konata and Haruhi so no aliens or espers. Konata is created from Otaku people and Otaku people like guns so Konata takes out a Ruger 9mm and shoots Harhui.

[Evileel]

Wait, if Haruhi can't use any help from aliens and espers, then why Konata is allowed to use the help of her 9mm friend? XD

[Leef]

Am i allowed to add to my argument? If so i would say a firearm is an accessory so it is ok. :)

[Fishfreeek]

well haruhi made the espers and stuff herself (being god and all) and if thats the case then the whole world is her accessory that she can toy and edit to her will (unknowingly)

[jinzo64]

Haruhi.......has the inability to lose period? Also including konata worships her.

blade graffiti your argument convinced me best the haruhi would win so it's your
turn to suggest a fight.

[BladeGraffiti]

lets see here......
gundam x transformer *cough cough*

[Adept_Rogue]

Transformer would win because it could sneak up on the gundam in it's vehicle form and do a surprise attack.

edit: besides Optimus Prime died for our sins, :) http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/optimus-died-for-you.jpg

[jinzo64]

the gundam would win there so much bigger than the transformers they would just step on them.

[Kira2521]

Gonna have to go with the Gundam with this. there's not much of a difference anyway, some gundams can transform after all (E.G Zeta Gundam, ZZ Gundam, Wing Zero Gundam, Gundam Kyrios)

[Scorchedenigma]

wait would it be both autobots and decepticons working together or would they still be fighting? also what about the planet size transformers? they active in this? id still probably have to go with gundams but that could make a pretty big difference

[Adept_Rogue]

wait would it be both autobots and decepticons working together or would they still be fighting? also what about the planet size transformers? they active in this? id still probably have to go with gundams but that could make a pretty big difference

i just assumed Optimus Prime would speak for ALL Transformers.:p
Edit: This debate is going to get way to ridiculous soon we will get into what if "the transformer had a **** ton of Energon" or the like.

[jinzo64]

just a reminder this one ends on friday.

[Kajimura]

im gonna wait till theres a fight that i know both sides, cus im fine as far as transformers but i dont know **** bout gundam

[jinzo64]

neither do i.

[LOLWTFBBQ]

its like if a AK-47 met a large structure built by our president Hoover. anyone get it?

[Diclonius]

gundams have nukes problem solved

[Leef]

http://upload.zantherus.com/files/hgbseo896pxu7hp0k6rx.jpg

[jinzo64]

thats the best reason for gundam to win in my opinion.

[jinzo64]

erm wheres bladgraffiti at he's supposed to pick a winner so they can post the next fight.

p.s i'm kinda keeping an eye this i just want it to work.

p.s.s i miss bladegraffiti must on at different times or somthing.
has he/she actualy been on recently?

[N8theGr8]

I think the contestants in this fight weren't sufficiently defined to create a valid matchup.

[jinzo64]

yes they were it was gundam vs transformers:D

but iget what it would have been easier to decide if he/she had picked one tranformer and one gundam.

p.s they are called gundams in gundam and somthing else:confused:

[zanemalindeal]

Transformers would win because their entire body is the machine so the thought and reaction times would be at the same capacity of a human's where as a gundam is piloted and would therefore have a slightly delayed reaction time. In gundam on gundam battle that wouldn't make a difference, but gundam on transformer it would.

[Scorchedenigma]

>_> ok here it goes. first off every gundam i can think of can fly. not all transformers can. not only that but the tranformers who can fly either are either helicopters or jets. that means they're either fast but cant turn very good or can turn easily but cant go very fast, and on top of they're transformed so they can only shoot whats in front of them. the gundams on the other hand are pretty fast in the air and can turn and shoot very easily. aside from that EVERY gundam was actually made to fight. you've seen it yourself they're loaded with missiles beam cannons of various sizes and swords. transformers on the other hand are made to seem more human and can easily be compaired to soldiers not weapons. plus the autobots avoid fighting if they can. finally gundams are bigger than transformer. remember tranformers are vehicles and realistically only stand about two car lengths tall at best. just look at optimus he has his wheels on his legs when hes not a vehicle. if you ever look at anyone standing next to a gundam they usually arnt much taller than the foot of the gundam and id say they would be about to the knees of a tranformer.

[Leef]

most of that seems logical except that most gundams cant fly. They just have boosters to help them jump higher. And if they can fly they usually transform into a jet/bird looking thing that cant maneuver as well.

[Scorchedenigma]

mostly i was thinking of gundam series that have heavy space combat in them. though yeah i guess that it true with alot of the older ones

[Leef]

yeah in space it seems a gundam would win
on land might be a different story

[Scorchedenigma]

you dont really see autobots destroying a whole lot =P gundams destroy other mechs all the time

[zanemalindeal]

Well the transformers made it from Cybertron to earth via space so it's only reasonable to assume that they have the ability to maneuver in space, though if they're transformed into anything specific is as of yet unknown except in one of the old series where they were supposedly on Cybertron and they could maneuver in either of their forms and fight as well. Size seems to be irrelevant in transformers seeing as Megatron stood to be about the size of a gundam if not bigger, he did step on a human or two. And of course seeing as transformers can really be any size they could be powerhouses or ninjas as seen in Transformers 2: revenge of the fallen.

[Scorchedenigma]

you really want to drag live action in to this? you got to admit any live action movie doesnt really portray the series its made for very well and seeing as there isnt a live action gundam movie there isnt anything to compare the movie to effectively

[Leef]

Im thinking of original Optimus prime vs. original gundam rx-78
http://upload.zantherus.com/files/4805zqivpufvkquft3av.jpg
http://upload.zantherus.com/files/h3o4a0x87wef1x7a1xcr.jpg

[jinzo64]

thats cool be nice if bladegraffiti would pick a winner

[Scorchedenigma]

the thing is optimas actually has something you can compare to human size, which are the wheels on his feet. with the gundams all you have are people standing next to them and for that gundam specifically you just listed, a life size statue =P
http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh419/dtshyk/02s.jpg
here's a scaled transformers actionfigure with a person for comparison
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images/%5CAUTOIMAGES%5CHT89901lg.jpg

[jinzo64]

i knew that gundams were taller

[Scorchedenigma]

dont know why but i was thinking leef said something about the size XD my bad

[jinzo64]

no it was me.
realy like your ichigo sig

[Scorchedenigma]

lol thanks xD

[jinzo64]

your welcome

[BladeGraffiti]

work+school+guitar practice= a wait time that incurs maddening impatience from our contestants. alright lets go with......diclonius since nukes in any argument= insta-win.

[jinzo64]

awsome thanks now i just have to wait to see diclonius posts a new fight.

[zanemalindeal]

Grats Diclonius. I will win eventually though. :P

[jinzo64]

if a new ones posted by diclonius.
maybe i should p.m diclonius so that he/she knows it's his/her go to post a new fight.

[Leef]

sounds good

[jinzo64]

it is done now we wait.

[Diclonius]

srry i didnt check the site as i was out of town

Lina Inverse(Slayers) vs Edward Elric(FMA)
HAJIME!!!!!!!

[jinzo64]

i'm saying the fulmetal short ass edward elric he can transmute without tansmutation circle.
he's also pretty athletic and strong.
he's alos clever he'd think of awy to win.

p.s this one ends next tuesday.

[Diclonius]

tuesday tonight or tuesday next week?
edit im an idiot disregard

[zanemalindeal]

Lina Inverse because Edward is Short and we ALL know. "Short people got no reason to live"

[jinzo64]

oh but short are cute and there fun to tease.
and there good for leaning on.
but i wouldn't do that ed he'd transmute his metal arm in to a sword and kill me.

[Diclonius]

Lina Inverse because Edward is Short and we ALL know. "Short people got no reason to live"

argument moot they are both the same size

[zanemalindeal]

Damn. lol. My bad. Don't actually know the other person. Just wanted to come up with a counter argument for Jinzo.

Ok. I still say Lina cause she's a red head. They always have the worst tempers and Well. Ed is kind of a little bitch at times. Whining when he shouldn't be.

[Diclonius]

reference for those who dont know

http://www.prettysenshi.com/inverse/

[XxFabiGBxX]

Ed should wins cuz he mastered the alchemy

[Leef]

I think it will be a tie because they both are short and both use magic

[jinzo64]

alchemy isn't magic it's a scientific prinicple that acutaly exists just done very differntly and with more effort.
like flour,sugar and milk make a mixture that has alchemic reation to heat and becomes cake.

magic isn't as realy as it is in anime like negime etc what we refer to as magic is normaly just trickery and illusions.

[Leef]

alchemy in real life = science
alchemy in FMA = magic
p.s. I knew someone would have a cow when I said that.

[Kajimura]

Ed cuz for one he has auto-mail nd u cant beat auto-mail thats made by the rockbells, 2 he can use alchemy by putting his hands 2gether, and 3 he doesnt have 2 worry about getting his clothes ripped, oh yeah nd hes beatin so many guys that are "immortal"

[Ranma]

AW come on... anyone even watched Slayers....?....not tha ti watched FMA yet XD

but i say 1 Dragon Slave would be all it would take to take out Eddy.
so i Pick Lina....

[jinzo64]

alchemy in real life = science
alchemy in FMA = magic
p.s. I knew someone would have a cow when I said that.

not having a cow staiting a fact.
alchemy in FMA classed as a scientific principle.
so there.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jinzo64-1/anime/haruhierm.jpg?t=1285319719

[jinzo64]

this ones now ended so we need a winner.
i should come up with a rule for this kind of situation.

[zanemalindeal]

Message Diclonius again. lol

[Diclonius]

AW come on... anyone even watched Slayers....?....not tha ti watched FMA yet XD

but i say 1 Dragon Slave would be all it would take to take out Eddy.
so i Pick Lina....

D Slave FTW
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[jinzo64]

yeah now we need ranma to post a new fight.

[Ranma]

Fuuko Ibuki (Clannad)http://images4.fanpop.com/image/answers/909000/909544_1283039877544.11res_384_288.jpg vs Ayu Tsukimiya (Kanon) http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/3YKno_wFQKc/0.jpg

[jinzo64]

oh damn i havn't seen either of those anime.



this one ends next friday

[Ranma]

soooo...........uhhhhh............nothing? hmmm .............nobody has anything...........

but to anyone who hasn't seen these shows - kinda the reason i picked them is that they are both in the "same Situation" which makes the fight no more one sided to either of them......... though both can have strong points - while they both have their weaknesses.......but i'm not saying anything since i started the "fight" XD

[XxFabiGBxX]

nah who cares about Kanon vs Clannad...

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/es.pokemon/images/2/25/Feebas.png

VS!!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4LP-X0iAiUk/TBpxpNT8BGI/AAAAAAAAAHs/2qc-RlDPNdE/s1600/magikarp.gif

THIS ONE IS THE BEST FIGHT IN THE WORLD!!!

[zanemalindeal]

Ayu Tsukimiya. Her hair is more golden. Girls with golden hair always win?

Edit: and Fabi. Magicarp wins because he's one of the original 151 XD

[jinzo64]

nah who cares about Kanon vs Clannad...

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/es.pokemon/images/2/25/Feebas.png

VS!!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4LP-X0iAiUk/TBpxpNT8BGI/AAAAAAAAAHs/2qc-RlDPNdE/s1600/magikarp.gif

THIS ONE IS THE BEST FIGHT IN THE WORLD!!!

:mad:void void this fiba vs magikarp fight doen't count as it not your turn.
the current fight ends on friday sadly not many people have posted.

i'm picking Fuuko Ibuki just because she would

[Leef]

Why would they fight in the first place? They both look so innocent.

[zanemalindeal]

Those are the one's you have to most wary of.

[jinzo64]

they can both do splash ouch i'm wet.
wait aim at nurse joy's top.
but we realy should focus on the main fight posted by ranma.

[zanemalindeal]

Ranma was here. Why didnt she post a winner?

[thedarkmessenger]

she's still chatting in the chat box :P

[jinzo64]

she doesn't have to post a winner til the 8th of this month.
fights last 7 days.

[Ranma]

even if i needed to post a winner now....there hasn't been much of a decent "win" post yet........especially not one with an actual reason......being i can think up a "win" for each Character....but probably cause i seen each of the shows.......only 4 days left - hopefully get a somewhat decent "fight" outta this..........*sigh*

[Backmask]

Fuko Ibuki and Ayu Tsukimiya both have the ability of astral projection, but Fuko makes wooden star fish, thus making Fuko the true winner.

[animemental1]

Damn, I still need to see both of them.

[Diclonius]

hmm coma battle
in cuteness I would go with ayu
but with fighting power you cant beat starfish attack
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/timeless_evil/MasterFuko.gif

[jinzo64]

it'll probably be hard but panma can you pleae pick a winner.

[animemental1]

Man, this is taking a long time. Let's get this over with.

[Backmask]

Why don't you message Ranma?

[Ranma]

hmm coma battle
in cuteness I would go with ayu
but with fighting power you cant beat starfish attack
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/timeless_evil/MasterFuko.gif

well...not much of a battle.... but this seems to be the only "real" attempt at an outcome XD

your go.....

the
arguments i was sorta looking for either character - being don't see either as a true "fighter"

Ayu win: well being Fuuko has the problem of spacing out (usually around things that make her happy) at any time Ayu could sneak up do whatever she wanted..

Fuuko win: well not really a true fighter either... but the way she used the Starfish as a weapon on Sunohara.....that could be quite deadly...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F59FrGBUhRI

[Diclonius]

The Black Lagoon company vs Section 9

[jinzo64]

yeah new fight
i'll have to look in to what lagoon company and section 9 are.

[Diclonius]

public security section 9 (Ghost in the shell), Black Lagoon company (Black Lagoon)

Slightly lopsided battle in section 9's favor so extra consideration if you can convince me for Black Lagoon

[jinzo64]

thanks for that.
sadly i havn't seen either.

[Diclonius]

go go gadget necro

[Leef]

Ummmmm... District 9 wins because I love that movie

[jinzo64]

well it's been more than a week
sadly no one posted who'd win.
so i'm going restart the thread with a new fight.

doomsday vs the incredable hulk

[animemental1]

Hulk because he's Hulk. And I've never heard of Doomsday.

[Kajimura]

doomsday cus he holds his own against superman and almost kills him so hes gotta be able to beat the hulk
http://ijustwanttofitin.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/doomsday2.jpg

[Scorchedenigma]

the hulk is stronger than superman though. also who hasnt heard of doomsday >_>

[Kajimura]

strength isnt everything

[Diclonius]

Superman eventually beats doomsday and hulk breaks superman over his knee like kindling go go gadget logic

[Kajimura]

dude, superman is DC, hulk is Marvel, they never meet

[Diclonius]

dude, superman is DC, hulk is Marvel, they never meet

call

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/timeless_evil/dc-vs-marvel.jpg

[domo18]

The hulk would win. He gets stronger as he gets more angry

[Backmask]

Doomsday would win.
He has killed many Green Lanterns, defeated the Justice League, defeated Darkseid, and almost killed Superman twice. He adapts to whatever injures him and he has accelerated healing.

[jinzo64]

Doomsday would win.
He has killed many Green Lanterns, defeated the Justice League, defeated Darkseid, and almost killed Superman twice. He adapts to whatever injures him and he has accelerated healing.

i think this argument is best so it's your go to post a fight backmask.

[Backmask]

Link (Legend of Zelda) vs. Kratos (God of War)

[animemental1]

Kratos. Even though I'm a Zelda fan, Kratos' reflexes are way too fast.

[Leef]

Link because he has more hearts than Kratos;)

[jinzo64]

saddly kratos would win he can kill gods.
he also a god.

[animemental1]

So...can we declare the winner now?

[jinzo64]

yes backmask needs to pick a winner.
please

[Backmask]

saddly kratos would win he can kill gods.
he also a god.

A winner is you.

[jinzo64]

yeah my go

minami (lucky star) vs sakaki (azumanga daioh)

[Evileel]

Of course Sakaki. She has a lot of fighting experience with cats already.
Although Im not so sure about a winner, if Minami would be armed with a ball XD
http://oi44.tinypic.com/21lu8pc.jpg

[animemental1]

Sakaki. She has Maya to back her up. And even if Minami had Cherry to accompany her, he/she'd be too lazy to help.

[Leef]

why arnt we picking fights between people that actually fight?
anyways sakaki wins because I like azumanga better

[TrollingLeaf]

How About Kimbo Slice vs Jackie Chan

[jinzo64]

sorry but the current fight is between minami (lucky star) vs sakaki (azumanga daioh)
please post who you think would win in the current fight and not post new ones.
thanks.

[jinzo64]

i guess it's time to pick a winner
so i pick evileel

i'm also adding a new rule
aswell as the characters you also need to say what there competing at.
like for example konata vs sakaki 100 metre dash.

[animemental1]

*revives thread*

[acutekat]

this thread vs oblivion who will win

[animemental1]

It's Evileel's turn.

[acutekat]

the one problem with these types of games is they depend on people who may have logged off and there isn't much of a contingency plan for that eventuality

[jinzo64]

i know thats why people should check the thread more often.

[jinzo64]

it's been a while and evileel hasn't posted so i'm a new fight

ichigo final hollow form vs sephiroth
http://dreager1.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/ichigo__s_new_hollow_form_by_scipioninja.jpg


http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/thumb/4/46/Sephiroth_Dissidia_Artwork.png/502px-Sephiroth_Dissidia_Artwork.png

[domo18]

ichigo would win because he could survive from sephiroth's strongest attack, super nova and then blst his ass to kingdom come with a cero

[Backmask]

"The extended Super Nova animation is the longest in the entire game, showing the destruction of the entire Solar System by use of a meteor." Ichigo couldn't survive this.

[Evileel]

Wut, my turn? Why nobody said this to me? I thought this thread have died long ago (like most of other such games) http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8514/79044543by4.gif

[Fishfreeek]

"The extended Super Nova animation is the longest in the entire game, showing the destruction of the entire Solar System by use of a meteor." Ichigo couldn't survive this.

this

[Kaiju]

Sephiroth wins on account of his far more badass theme songs, One Winged Angel to be more specific. That and the super-nova animation, which is actually used to torture stick figures in the Stick Torture Chamber Flash Game.

Ichigo can pull any power out of his ass he wishes, but Sephi's got him beat. Besides Hollow form is nule when Sephiroth gives him "despair".

[animemental1]

Sephiroth. Once he performs Sin Harvest, Hollow Ichigo's ****ed.

[jinzo64]

kaiju it's your go to post somthing lets say you've got till next wednesday which is the 26.
if you havn't by then it'll be passed over to evilell.

[Kaiju]

Hmmm....


Toughie, I usually peruse 'Who Would Win' on TV Tropes and generally am appeased.

Oh! I know, Evangelion Unit-01 VS. GODZILLA



http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/160/4/7/Unit_02_vs__Godzilla_by_Metal_Dragon_Kiryu.jpg


Breif Rundown of the Fighters:

GODZILLA
Height: 328 feet
Length: Not Available
Mass: 55,000 tons

Running Speed: Moderate
Swimming Speed: Moderate

Powers:
- Atomic Ray: Godzilla can fire a super powerful atomic ray from his mouth. This beam's strength depends on how long Godzilla charges it, the strongest thing it did was stop a meteor in space.
- Spiral Beam: If Godzilla gets a power boost from an outside source, Godzilla will be given the spiral beam, a beam on which will explode which seems like the force of a nuke and hold up an enemy that weighs 100,000 tons with ease.
- Nuclear Pulse: Godzilla can send a surge of energy out of his body that will cause anything touching him to let go or be severly injured.
- Regeneration: Godzilla has an enhanced regenerative ability that allows him to heal just about any given damage in a matter of seconds. From being impaled to surviving a meteor impact.
- Radioactive Absorption: Godzilla is capable of absorbing nuclear energy in order to gain in power and size.

Weaknesses: None

Evangelion Unit 01

Height: 131 feet
Mass: Not Available

Running Speed: Fast

Powers:
- Weapons: The Evangelion 01 can be equipped with several different types of long range weapons and hand to hand based weapons. Such weapons include giant versions of rocket launchers and sub machine guns, and hand to hand weapons such as spears, axes, and the Lance of Longinus: a weapon capable of penetrating an AT Field on contact. It is also always equipped with the Progressive Knife that is capable of cutting through just about anything.
- AT Field: The Evangelion 01 can produce an At Field that blocks all types of matter from getting near.
- Berserker: When the Evangelion 01 is in berserk mode, the strength of all its powers increase, and also developes a strong power of regeneration, allowing to heal any wound in mere seconds, and then can also use other parts of an Angel to reform missing limbs.



GO!

[jinzo64]

thats cool.
you put tons of effort in to that.
i say godzilla coz hes awsome with fire breath he'd toast Evangelion Unit 01 like a marshmellow than zap him to death with his laser eye vision

[animemental1]

EVA Unit 01. It says the AT Field blocks ALL types of matter. Therefore, Shinji can use it to his advantage. Also, EVA Unit 01's faster than Godzilla. Plus, with its various amount of weapons, EVA Unit 01 can attack without disadvantage.

[Kaiju]

I Say... that my buddy on dA, Rendragonclaw summed it up best:

""""Having witnessed both at their peak I'd say that push comes to shove, Godzilla could take unit01. It would be a difficult fight but the G-man is the winner for a couple of reasons.

The Evas were made to fight Angels, creatures that have a big red core that screams 'stab me'. Godzilla is capable of regenerating any part of his body very quickly and his vital points are layered in armored hide and a large bastion of muscle. The Angels were heavily specialized organisms, needing a specific method of execution each time. Superficial injuries were meaningless as they'd just reassert the territory of their ego which defines their existance. What they all have in common is a core, a big red ball of human like biomatter that once penetrated ended them immediately. All of an Eva's weapons and tools are made for the specific purpose of penetrating that core. Godzilla has no 'core' and even stabbing him in the chest or the head would only be a temporary repreive. Godzilla has no large glaring weakness the Eva is meant to capitalize on.

Some would say that the massive laser gun that took down Ramiel could be used on Godzilla. That gun took the entire power supply of Japan for it to work. It was effective because Ramiel was busy drilling the Geofront and could not move. Godzilla is suprisingly mobile when it is called for so this would only be a weapon used in ambush. You still need more than one Eva to set this plan up so the point is moot.

Speaking of giant lasers, Godzilla breathes giant lasers. With enough force to destroy a weaponized black hole and blast a creature three times his size into orbit. If an Eva can't handle a point blank blast from Ramiel, its not likely to be able to handle such an attack from Godzilla for very long. Unlike Ramiel, Godzilla can quickly change the angle and direction of his attack and is able to sweep this weapon for a massive amount of range with very little preparation (even the updated Ramiel had to spend a moment reconfiguring itself between different kinds of shots). Even if the Atomic Breath did not penetrate the AT field immediately, the concussive force and heat from the attack would plough the lighter Eva backwards and eventually wear it down.

So this places the Eva in a mobile melee posistion, most likley mid range to give it space to use its weaponry and evade the Atomic Breath. This is where fantards would argue that the Eva's speed comes into play. And it does...for about five minutes. That cord is going to get caught in the cross fire and get blown off. The Eva has a set power supply, Godzilla is notorious for being a determinator supreme. This will make the Eva hasty to finish the fight as quickly as possible, forcing it within Godzilla's reach. If it grapples Godzilla, it can be bit, clawed, tail whipped, body checked, thrown, blasted point blank, stomped on, and more than likely fall victim to the Nuclear Pulse, an AOE that the Eva does not have in its arsenal. Godzilla has fought speedy opponents before and has utterly annhilated them because they got ****y and repetitive. One really has to ask themselves what an EVA is actually capable of doing to a creature so unlike itself.

Another point is the pilot. Mr. Ikari himself. All of his opponents have been faceless, largely impersonal aliens that would eventually cave under brute force directed their right way. Godzilla is a creature that takes brute force, spits it back and asks for more. The Angels did not play mind games with Shinji and their primary objective was the Geofront and what was held in it. To the Angels, Shinji and his Eva were an obstacle to their true goal. With Godzilla, there is no other goal. Its just him and his opponent until its a smear of ash and guts on the ground. With Godzilla, the fight is personal, the creature is driven with a territorial vendetta and an indomidable spirit. The king of the monsters lives for battle and he's damn good at it. Shinji pilots the Eva because he feels its his responsibility, there is no personal drive there. He's a child caught in a malestorm of prophecy and manipulation and the reason he's depressed so much is largely because it is unfullfilling. Shinji would be facing something that instinctually takes the fight as all or nothing. It's not going after the GeoFront, its going after him. Godzilla is over 100 stories of intimidating predator who goes after things simply because they have invaded his precieved territory. You can't tell me that Shinji is not going to freak out in a battle with Godzilla, its just not done, especially by a kid. You know how Shinji is always heard desperately telling himself "I musn't runaway."? Well what do japanese people do the second Godzilla shows up? That's right, they run like hell. The longer the fight drags on (and it will because Godzilla endures as he always does), the more likely that Godzilla's ferocity and unwillingness to go down will get to Shinji. He's going to freak the hell out...

Which brings us to our next and most argued point, the oh so Godly Berserker. Yui's rage made manifest. At this point the Eva is no longer subject to any kind of battle strategy (Shinji is not the type to improvise himself anyway). It runs on its own power, feasibly the N2 engine at work. All systems go, etc. The Berserker will fight like a rampaging chimpanzee, striking with its limbs and trying to maul Godzilla to death. Now, this works on Angels because Angels don't take things personally. They are systematic in their attacks and squeel like little pigs when faced with something full of RAGE. Against Godzilla, this is not wise. Godzilla will simply escalate to match the Eva in ferocity. What people don't seem to get is that the Eva has to conciously heal itself in order to regenerate. Both times it has done so, it took a moment to fix itself. Godzilla doesn't need to think about healing, he doesn't have to focus on something so hard wired into his being. He heals continually, constantly and without pretense. Let's say Unit01 tears a chunk out of Godzilla, and Godzilla blows off the Eva's arm in retaliation. The Eva will take the piece of Godzilla in its hand to transfrom a new arm into place. Godzilla is already in the Eva's face.

Even with a the so coveted Lance of Longinus, all its going to do is stab Godzilla. He's just going to tear it out and may even use it against the Eva in a titanic moment of irony. Godzilla's opponents have a knack for underestimating him and he inevitably surprises them. Everytime an Eva has gotten 'surprised' it has nearly been destroyed. In conclusion, Godzilla can outlast an Unit01's initial attack, is more determined than Shinji, can match Yui's fury point for point and has superiority in ranged combat. Godzilla does not need to pause in order to heal nor use outside sources to mend itself. This is a creature that grows back from a single organ and even its bones can effect anything built with them. Godzilla is a well rounded, adaptive and mercilessly determined living natural disaster. The Eva, even Unit01, is simply too specialized to deal with Godzilla. It took decades for G-Force to figure out ways to counter Godzilla and non of them succeeded in doing away with him permeantly save one and even that method only made things worse. NERV has some great minds but by the time they figure out what makes Godzilla tick, he's probably mangled Unit01 and traumatized its pilot so bad he'd never get back in again."""""

This is a friends answer not mine ;)

[Distict5-9]

MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!!! READ AT OWN RISK!

This battle would be quite tough because both of them have good regenerative abilities. Still, while we've seen EVA's being ripped to shreds, in the original Godzilla they are able to kill him only by using a catastrophic machine that is able to kill any life form in the sea. So I doubt Godzilla would go down as easily as the EVA, even if it may be quicker than him and with far more technological weapons

[Kaiju]

MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!!! READ AT OWN RISK!

This battle would be quite tough because both of them have good regenerative abilities. Still, while we've seen EVA's being ripped to shreds, in the original Godzilla they are able to kill him only by using a catastrophic machine that is able to kill any life form in the sea. So I doubt Godzilla would go down as easily as the EVA, even if it may be quicker than him and with far more technological weapons

Ah, the Oxygen Destroyer. I must also add that its a poor weapon to use as it created a monster arguably even worse than godzilla....
That and only other thing to bring down Godzilla was*spoiler*...himself(SPOILER for those who never seen G vs Destoroyah)

[jinzo64]

just so people know this one ends on the 27 of this month.

[Kaiju]

http://www.keyourcars.com/wp-content/uploads/__necromancer_by_ashenwolf.jpg
ARISE THREAD! ARISE FROM THE DEAD AN COME BACK TO THE REALM OF THE LIVING!

Also, Godzilla Totally won the last fight.

[Haar]

http://i.imgur.com/ihXHm.jpg

[Kaiju]

I felt this thread was too entertaining to let stay dead.
Jinzo, who is next? Or should I go again?

[abyssion1337]

http://www.gamingunion.net/newsimg/league-of-legends-blog-theres-a-rumble-in-my-jungle.jpg

[jinzo64]

.................................
Well this unexpected.

I guess if were reviving the thread.

we'll try Erza from Fairy tail
http://images.wikia.com/fairytail/images/4/46/Heavens_Wheel_Armor.jpg
and
my Fav anime character Soifon
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6700000/soifon-soifon-6745220-640-480.jpg

p.s Sorry for the late reply but this is the first time i've been on since get back online properly since wednesday.

[jinzo64]

bumping thread.

fight is still
soifon vs Erza Scarlet.

[Haar]

Shouldn't we change the fight by now in order to garner more interest?

[Kaiju]

Soi Fon Wins. In terms of combat, bleach is higher tier than Fairy Tail in terms of scale and "power levels", its like is someone from Dragonball Z went up against a wizard from Harry Potter, the power scaling is vastly different between the two franchises. Soi Fon is capable of killing an enemy within two strikes with Suzemebachi, and considering her speed I doubt Erza can match Soi-Fon before the lethal two strikes of Suzemebachi occur. I have only seen bits and pieces of Fairy Tail, but from what I can gather, Soi Fon would be my main choice if there was a fight between the two.

This fight has gone on long enough and ends now, I choose the next fight. Any Objections?

[Haar]

I sort of wanted to go next, but, I have no objections to you going, Kaiju.

[jinzo64]

no i have no objections so it's your go kaiju.
Then it'll be harrs go.
I know it doesn't confy with the rules I made but the thread doesn't see that much traffic.

[Kaiju]

Then it has been set.

As for the fight: The Godhand from Berserk vs. The House of Troubles from the Elder Scrolls Series

http://aazealh.net/Divers/GodHand.jpg
http://berserk.wikia.com/wiki/God_Hand
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/052/9/e/mehrunes_dagon_by_ezekielepharcelis-d4qk01d.png
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/House_of_Troubles

Both of their legions of demons and followers can also be used in this fight

Go.

[jinzo64]

.........This hard coz I havn't heard of either of them.
oh well i'll look in to them later and come to some sort of conclusion.

[Haar]

I'll take a shot in the dark and say the the God Hand, simply because there are more members than that of the House of Troubles.


Of course, I've only seen a little of Berserk and I haven't gotten to that part of Skyrim yet, so there's a strong possibility that I'm wrong.

[Kaiju]

I'll take a shot in the dark and say the the God Hand, simply because there are more members than that of the House of Troubles.


Of course, I've only seen a little of Berserk and I haven't gotten to that part of Skyrim yet, so there's a strong possibility that I'm wrong.

But, the Daedra, individually are stronger than the GodHand, so having one man short won't be an issue. Besides it was either all seventeen daedra princes against the GodHand or just this group of troublesome princes. And we can also probably thrown in Jygallag into this group if we want to even it out.

[jinzo64]

I have a question regarding the current fight.
The God hand
Is made of 5 powerful god like beings.
And
The house of trouble
Is made of 4 powerful Deadra who are also a form of powerful god like beings.
Is that right?

[Kaiju]

I have a question regarding the current fight.
The God hand
Is made of 5 powerful god like beings.
And
The house of trouble
Is made of 4 powerful Deadra who are also a form of powerful god like beings.
Is that right?

The Daedric Princes are ominpotent beings yes, as are the God-Hand however the God-Hands abilities are only implied and serve something called the 'Idea of Evil' as someone who is an avid TES fan and up to date to Berserk, I'll weigh in my verdict:

While one man down compared to the God Hand, The House of Troubles has the God-Hand beat. Why? Power Scaling. In terms of followers, cultists, demon legions, and reality warping artifacts Mehrunes Dagon, Sheogorath, Molag Bal and Malacath have the God Hand beat.
Mehrunes Dagon, his cult and legions almost took over the world in the Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, only being beaten by a prophecized hero of legend and divine intervention, however at the cost of an entire bloodline of emperors which later tore the local empire apart in the aftermath.
Sheogorath's artifacts can turn deadly opponents...into sweet rolls, has legions of mad-folk worshiping him, and has been shown to warp the fabric of our reality on whim, by causing rainstorms, driving folks to madness, to...dogs falling from the sky...on fire.
Malacath has the entirety (or at least, a good chunk of) all the orcs in Tamriel worshiping him
Molag Bal... the patron saint for the Undead and Vampires, he is the corrupter of souls, King of Rape, and generally an unpleasent fellow.

These four are reality warping gods which mere mortal affairs aside from prophecized heroes have little bearing on them. The God-Hand may well be similiar, but they are currently facing their bane in the form of knight in skull armor, and a pissed off guy who was supposed to be a sacrifice. The Daedra could easily whipe such nuisances off of existence with ease, but it seems the God-Hand are having trouble. If the God Hand cannot wipe out a single mortal in magical armor, I seriously doubt they can handle the Daedra Princes. Now, the might not be trying as hard, or they could have some sort of Xanatos Gambit in the works, but from as it stands right now, the sheer amount of lore portraying Daedric Princes in general as godlike beings who can fight on equal terms with the actual GODS of the Elder Scrolls Universe (Molag Bal beating Arkay which resulted in the creation of Vampires for example, How Malacath was born in the first place) leads me to favor the House of Troubles over the God Hand. That said the God-Hand serve something called the Idea of Evil, which may well be on par with a Daedra Prince, however the only thing we know of it is from a 'non canon' manga chapter, retconned as it explained to much plot before it was allotted. However, it would be better suited to fight Sithis from the same series, as they are similar in nature and the fact we know almost zilch about them.

[jinzo64]

Thankyou.
you wrote a lot more than I expected.
i was expecting a simple Yes/No answer.

so to be blunt and sum up the house of trouble would win.

[Kaiju]

From my perspective and from what I've gathered out of both Series, I'd say yes, the House of Troubles can take the God Hand and most likely, win.

[jinzo64]

unless someone else weighs in with an opion it might as well be Harrs turn next.

[Haar]

Well, I guess it's my turn now. Who'd win in a fight between Chirico Cuvie piloting a ATM-09-ST Sco****g and Suzaku Kururugi piloting his first Lancelot?
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/16201/1681547-chirico_3_large.jpghttp://www.mahq.net/mecha/votoms/atvotoms/atm-09-st.jpg
>Experienced Pilot
>Practically immortal due to a rare gene that allows his body to recover from injuries very quickly.
>Survived being set on fire and a gunshot to the chest
>Pilots a non-bulletproof, grappling hook equipped robot that can skate on most terrain

http://www.absoluteanime.com/code_geass/suzaku.jpghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100511215653/codegeass/images/1/16/Z-01.jpg
>Experienced Pilot
>Given the undying will to live through a mental command
>Survived a direct Gunshot to the chest
>Pilots a skating robot armed with grappling hooks

My money's on Chirico, due to survival being in his genes.

[jinzo64]

I'm going to pick the white mech.
No realy good reason I just think it looks more advanced in design.

[Haar]

Well, the Lancelot does use laser weaponry, as opposed to Sco****gs using standard bullets, so they are somewhat more technically advanced.

[jinzo64]

Lasers are awsome.

[Backmask]

If you watched VOTOMS, you would know who would win. Chircio is practically unable to die do to his high amount of luck. He's been poisoned, exploded, and shot too much to even care at this point. Hell, he could win just by doing nothing. :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOEYOB_QiaE

You also left out the fact that he killed Wiseman, who was practically God.

[Kaiju]

Not to side with Suzaku or anything (I hate that ****er with a passion) but in terms of NOT DYING when he should, Suzaku is practically a Gode Mode-Sue. The entire universe seems to bend backwards to save his ass, he wins battles because of that command when he otherwise should not be able to. So I'm not really sure about the fight personally, Suzaku is as bad as gary-stu as you can get, and I'm not really sure about Chircio as I am unfamiliar with VOTOMS.

[Backmask]

Not to side with Suzaku or anything (I hate that ****er with a passion) but in terms of NOT DYING when he should, Suzaku is practically a Gode Mode-Sue. The entire universe seems to bend backwards to save his ass, he wins battles because of that command when he otherwise should not be able to. So I'm not really sure about the fight personally, Suzaku is as bad as gary-stu as you can get, and I'm not really sure about Chircio as I am unfamiliar with VOTOMS.

Let's put it this way: Suzaku lives because Lelouch ordered it. Chirico lives because God deems it so (He went on to kill said God, but regardless.)

[Kaiju]

Let's put it this way: Suzaku lives because Lelouch ordered it. Chirico lives because God deems it so (He went on to kill said God, but regardless.)
Lelouch also mindraped "God", but I can see your point. :P

[Haar]

Wait... how did Suzaku survive his Knightmare exploding that one time? That's always vexed me.

[Kaiju]

Wait... how did Suzaku survive his Knightmare exploding that one time? That's always vexed me.
The Universe bends itself ass backwards to save him. It's never explained how or why, just because of the "LIVE" command, Suzaku is basically untouchable, one of the many flaws with Code Geass.

[Backmask]

Aw snap Could this be?That's rightMother****ing thread necromancy

[Gleeman]

Aw snap Could this be?That's rightMother****ing thread necromancy

http://www.themonolith.com/wp-content/uploads/why-would-you-do-that.jpg

[Kaiju]

Awwwwwww ****.

So whose next?

[Backmask]

Awwwwwww ****.

So whose next?

We either wait and pray that Haar acknowledges this thread, or we start anew.

[Haar]

Can't you guys let me masturbate to cartoon pornography in peace?
I am always willing to participate in a pointless argument about irrelevant nonsense.

[Kaiju]

So what two dick leng- I mean, power levels are we going to measure this time? Personally I'd say something involving gateway animu/shonen big three vs. something that is representative of hardcore otaku's or weabs, such as Type-Moon. Example: Soul Reapers/Shinigami vs. Heroic Spirits

[Backmask]

So what two dick leng- I mean, power levels are we going to measure this time? Personally I'd say something involving gateway animu/shonen big three vs. something that is representative of hardcore otaku's or weabs, such as Type-Moon. Example: Soul Reapers/Shinigami vs. Heroic Spirits

So the age-old fight between Nanny McPhee vs. Marry Poppins? Sounds good to me.
Also
>Type-Moon
>Harcore otaku

Maybe if this were 2006.

[Kaiju]

Also
>Type-Moon
>Harcore otaku

Maybe if this were 2006.

well In comparison with the shounen kiddos whose only seen Naruto, bleach, one piece, hellsing and some other gateway pleb anime, due to having a relatively high effort required (in contrast as kiddos can't torrent) to get the rom hacks and translations of such works. Easy for us, but hard for the shonen kiddies as it requires some effort to try and get into it.... they'd consider it hardcore.

So, what is Haar's decision? If we don't hear from him soon, we might have to make due with the above two choices.

[Haar]

Mary Poppins could actually warp realities and create new ones based on abstract concepts seen in works of art, so my vote goes with her.

[Backmask]

Mary Poppins could actually warp realities and create new ones based on abstract concepts seen in works of art, so my vote goes with her.

Well, I mean, that's about a good of an argument as it can get. You're up, Haar.

[Haar]

I have no ideas that don't involve shows you guys haven't watched, so I forfeit my turn to Kaiju.

[Kaiju]

I have no ideas that don't involve shows you guys haven't watched, so I forfeit my turn to Kaiju.

Wimp.
Now, to think of something that a pleb like Jinzo could argue for against something that the kool kidz could argue for...

Alrighty, I have decided! In order to attract people to thread (namely new comers) (and stroke the Kool Kidz ego) the fight will now be thus:

Soul Reapers/Shinigami (any/all of them) from Bleach (Espada and/or Vanderiech could get added) vs. Heroic Spirits/Servants from Fate Series. Go.

[glory of llama]

A draw, because the fighting will never conclude, but continue ad infinitum as each side has a special story arc showing how they got stronger or rediscovered some technique... unless...


The holy grail is what summons and gives contemporary existence to the heroic spirits. the grail is a powerful spiritual artifact. one of the shinigami will steal the artifact and the fight will be suspended except for pointless skirmishes as all search for it, then it will be found, fought over, thought to have been destroyed during the fighting, only it wound up back in the mortal realm (in a school no doubt), there'll be an entire season where all the heroic spirits and all the soul reapers attend school in the mortal realm because of course they do, and it becomes the prize in a culture fest and instead of fighting all the reapers and spirits have to set up their own performance for the culture fest, with each reaper using their bankai in some kind of artistic or industrious or impressive but ultimately non-violent way, and each heroic spirit will perform their cultural/historic story, and everyone will be awed and enticed by Gilgamesh's half-naked slave women in an authentic-looking sumerian palace recreation, revel in the glory of Saber's Knights of the Round as she recreates her union with Excalibur in a stunning visual display, truly aweing the crowd with the story of heroism, but just before Saber is about to be awarded the Grail finally decided the victor, the mortal who stole the grail in the first place will announce their grand plan, which involves all of the soul reapers and heroic spirits being sucked into the grail and sealed, leaving the mortal the true winner, and it will turn out to be the reincarnation of Captain Isen as a high schooler.

So Captain Isen wins. The end.

(at least until the next season, which takes place in each of the heroic spirits stories, with the soul reapers split up among them, and some of them have to conclude the spirit's story to escape, while others find loopholes or other methods, etc etc, like I said, ad infinitum)

[Kaiju]

A draw, because the fighting will never conclude, but continue ad infinitum as each side has a special story arc showing how they got stronger or rediscovered some technique... unless...


The holy grail is what summons and gives contemporary existence to the heroic spirits. the grail is a powerful spiritual artifact. one of the shinigami will steal the artifact and the fight will be suspended except for pointless skirmishes as all search for it, then it will be found, fought over, thought to have been destroyed during the fighting, only it wound up back in the mortal realm (in a school no doubt), there'll be an entire season where all the heroic spirits and all the soul reapers attend school in the mortal realm because of course they do, and it becomes the prize in a culture fest and instead of fighting all the reapers and spirits have to set up their own performance for the culture fest, with each reaper using their bankai in some kind of artistic or industrious or impressive but ultimately non-violent way, and each heroic spirit will perform their cultural/historic story, and everyone will be awed and enticed by Gilgamesh's half-naked slave women in an authentic-looking sumerian palace recreation, revel in the glory of Saber's Knights of the Round as she recreates her union with Excalibur in a stunning visual display, truly aweing the crowd with the story of heroism, but just before Saber is about to be awarded the Grail finally decided the victor, the mortal who stole the grail in the first place will announce their grand plan, which involves all of the soul reapers and heroic spirits being sucked into the grail and sealed, leaving the mortal the true winner, and it will turn out to be the reincarnation of Captain Isen as a high schooler.

So Captain Isen wins. The end.

(at least until the next season, which takes place in each of the heroic spirits stories, with the soul reapers split up among them, and some of them have to conclude the spirit's story to escape, while others find loopholes or other methods, etc etc, like I said, ad infinitum)

Assuming this crossover was written entirely by Tite Kubo and seems to have only seen the anime of Stay/Night and Zero :P

If Nasu were to write it....it would be different involving Shirou/the protagonists following three different paths and banging a different shinigami lady each path. Oh, and lots of character death, grimdark and his ideals being put to the test, again. Oh, and extensive padding describing dinner time. Before Shirou/the protagonist, a Servant Pal, and the lady of the route teaming up against the primary conflict in a big final battle with each path covering and explaining a different aspect of the story. Also, one of the Shinigami Girl choices would like like Saber for no inexplicable reason other than Takuechi really liking Saber(see: Nero, Sakura Saber, Saber Lilly, Saber Lion, Saber Alter...). Most of the Opposition to the Protagonist/Shirou would be dead with only the main girl and some supporting non-servants still around. (Or if Good End, a servant still sticking around making it a harem ending)

If Gen Urobuchi were to write this it would be grimdark battle of ideals which involves in everyone dying, stupid decisions based solely for plot convenience, the protagonist broken, his ideals shattered, and a bittersweet ending where the worlds merge, lots of people die, yet there is hope for the future. Essentially like every other thing he writes.

(More Serious Response to come later)

[Backmask]

In terms of speed,only the top-tiers of Bleach have any hope of keeping up. Not sure if things have changed in the new arc, but Bleach's heavy hitters are generally low hypersonic, as opposed to most servants low to mid hypersonic abilities. Saber and Lancer could react just fine against something traveling at mach 45-ish.
With destructive power, I don't think Bleach holds a candle, either. Not many of the top-tiers, if any, go into city-busting levels. Most are town busters at best, while Saber was pumping out 300 megatons with Excalibur.
Then there's the conceptual bull**** like Avalon and Gay Bulge that would be too much for Shinigami to handle.

[Kaiju]

In all seriousness, assuming there is no Grail involved, this would be a conflict of afterlifes with the Throne of Heroes vs. Soul Society. Meaning we are going deep into conceptual ramifications here.

Since the Nasuverse has all possibilities canon (every bad end counts as a canon ending) a world where the Soul Society had developed juxtaposed with the development of the Nasuverse "World" concept is possible, thus a crossover in which the two forces would collide would be Alaya (the Spirit of Humanity) fearing destruction by either assimilation or collision with this new universe, Gaia might get involved as well, but thats a different story.

For sake of argument "spirit energy" would be synonymous with Prana as I believed its mentioned that Chi, Od, and Mana are all different names for it, so it works.

Now with the conceptual and background info out of the way, lets go straight to the who would win:

Servants, without the Grail would be more powerful as they would not have the servant parameters or vessels and thus would be at the height of their prime and not worry about the rules set in stone of preserving prana or hiding their identities, allowing servants to go all out. Saber would not have to worry about fading away, and parameters like Cuchulainn/Lancer's Battle Continuation would be improved back to their original state due not having a master tinkering with their stats. A Berserker like Heracles would be even more deadly as even though he lacks madness enhancement he can use the full breadth of his skills without clouding of his mind, mine he can use Nine Lives far more effectively in conjunction with his archery skills and Hydra Venom that was lost when summoned as a Berserker. As the Grail requires the vessels of the class system to even manifest servants in the first place, heroic spirits without classes are a league all their own if summoned by the Throne of Heroes or The World itself.

Now assuming the Grail IS involved, the Servants would still be quite strong. With a Magus healing a servant, they can effectively be able to tank most things Shinigami can throw at them. An E-Rank servant stat, the lowest you can get, is STILL 10 times greater than that or a normal human. A rank is effectively 100 times greater. And EX rank is unquantifiable, as it warrants no comparison.
For perspective, a spear that can hit the heart of the target without fail by bending the laws of causality backwards is only a C-B rank Noble Phantasm, Excalibur, a sword that can destroy a regenerating lovecraft inspired mass regenerating Demon in a single strike or bending the very fabric of reality itself to create your own personal world is a Rank A. So what could consider a Rank EX? How about a sword that throws the entirety of creation and the concept of hell before it existed at you?

In contrast, even the strongest Bankai would be considered Rank A Anti-Army Noble Phantasms. Even Ichigo's super attack that defeated Aizen or The Head Captains Firey Hell can be considered as such as well, so in terms of overall firepower, endurance and strength, grail or no, Servants would be superior. With the Grail, the Shinigami would stand a chance depending on the Servants summoned (Fourth and Fifth Grail War would be heavily against the Shinigami due to its high profile servants such as Heracles, Cuchulainn, Iskander, Gilgamesh and Arturia), without it, it would be an entire after life war of which Soul Society has no possible countermeasure.
However, the Nasuverse and Bleach both have on thing in common: HAXX.
Noble Phantasm and Bankai (and the Espada/Vanderiech/Fullbringer equivalent) effectively operate the same way, a weapon of some sort that, when whose name is called, activates into a destructive haxx ability. That being said...Nasu is arguably far, far more intelligent in his crafting of his and as such his Haxx counter most Haxx that Kubo can throw out.

The Hogyuko can effectively be separated from Aizen's body with Rule Breaker. (As it is able to take Command Spells from a Servant and give it to the user as well as freeing someone from the living embodiment of every evil in existence) And most servants have anti-magic abilities which can dispel illusions (Saber resisting Lancer's love spot curse, and Assassin sneaking through bounded fields) meaning Aizen Sousuke would be countered at every step. Illusion? Negated/Ignored. Hogyoku haxx? Hai Rule Breaker (Gae Buidhe could do just as much damage)

Most of the Captains as such would find themselves outmatched if faced with a one of the three knight classes (Saber, Archer, Lancer), Berserker, or some Rider or Caster variations due to the aforementioned resistance against "magic" forcing the captains to rely on sword skills or if their Bankai/Shikai was more weapon based than energy/magic based.

That said the servants which would utterly OWN the Bleach Universe would be:

Karna, having an Anti-GOD Noble Phantasm

Saver...he's Buddha, I don't need to say anything more.

Gilgamesh, Having the original of every non-divine Noble Phantasm and having and having a chain which can bind the gods (see: Soul King) and utterly keep them at bay as well as Enuma Elish, an Anti World (the Nasuverse definition it which essentially means Universe) NP which tosses the concept of hell before it existed I.E. the entirety of the truth of creation, at an opponent (his use in Stay Night was not full powered due to Ego)(In Extra CCC, it is a one hit kill regardless of the opponent or their health), as well as various other treasures such as a spaceship which can move faster than the speed of light and other such haxx. Plus having most of all NP's in existence, he would effectively have a counter for anything Bleach could toss at him. In terms of blade spam, only Byakuya could stand a real chance, but blocking/deflecting GoB without knowing whats being thrown at you is kind of suicide, plus his blades would likely be negated by some sort of broken Anti-Projectile Armor NP Gilgamesh would have in his treasury. If Gil was being serious, even City Busting Bankai or one hit kill ones would be negated left and right by their appropriate counter.

Saber Arturia with Avalon Support. Yeah, not even Orihime's healing haxx can beat out this EX Rank NP. Plus as mentioned, she has a city buster can take out kaiju-sized opponents with a single hit. Hell, Any Saber due to their speed, endurance, NP and Magic Resistance would be a shinigami nightmare.

Cuchulainn has a sneakily low ranked NP, but its a doozy. Reversing the laws of causality resulting in an unhealable heart strike without fail providing one does not have superhuman luck. Plus his speed makes it so that I think only Yoruichi or Soi Fon could even keep up, but even they would be highly on the ropes. And even if Soi Fon managed to score a hit with her two-hit kill Shikai or her Nuke Bankai, Cuchulainn's Battle Continuation would cause him to keep on going catching her by surprise and impale her through the heart anyways. Plus his alt. fire of Gae Bulg (being thrown) can penetrate any sort of "absolute defense" that he may come across.

Heracles, More so if he's an Archer, but as a Berserker he's still a nightmare that would require more than one captain to take down due to Nine Lives and God Hand. And even then in terms of strength, only Kenpachi can really hold his own. As an Archer, he would be SANE and thus more calculating and have access to the full use of his NP such as Hydra Venom coated arrows.

GARcher would also be a nightmare providing he could trace Zanpaktou. And even if he can't, he still can trace most weapon NP's. And with Unlimited Blade Works activated, most captains would find themselves on the ropes if not beaten outright. (Even without UBW, Archer managed to kill Heracles 6-7 times)


So overall, in terms of fire power, the Shinigami would woefully outgunned.

[jinzo64]

Wimp.
Now, to think of something that a pleb like Jinzocould argue for against something that the kool kidz could argue for...

Alrighty, I have decided! In order to attract people to thread (namely new comers) (and stroke the Kool Kidz ego) the fight will now be thus:

Soul Reapers/Shinigami (any/all of them) from Bleach (Espada and/or Vanderiech could get added) vs. Heroic Spirits/Servants from Fate Series. Go.
Thanks for the pleb comment I thought no one had noticed my pleb ways.

sadly I haven't watched or read the fate series but reading the arguments for fate to win they're hard to argue against.

I'll have to have a proper think about it.

I'm just surprised this thread has been revived.

[glory of llama]

So I'm confused Kaiju, are you trying to win the game again and thus get to ask the next question to? how does that work?

[Kaiju]

There is no winning in this thread. The only gain is ego stroking.
Besides it should be obvious my choice was bait to get shonen kiddies to come and participate. Also I forgot how this thread works.

[Guthix]

you mean one shonen kiddie, jinzo, whose most deadly thing is a hug? kaiju, did devian art dump you or something?

[Kaiju]

you mean one shonen kiddie, jinzo, whose most deadly thing is a hug? kaiju, did devian art dump you or something?

Actually yeah, I was forced to get a tumblr. I am having an existentialist crisis right now.

[jinzo64]

The Original rules slightly edited
a new game.
this is a v.s game ,people will get to discuss who would win a fight between 2 different characters from one of the 4 anime,manga,games and movies.
then the person who posted the fight will judge on the best argument for the winner of the fight and pick a winner.
then the winner will post a new fight and be the judge this will run from the day the fight is posted to the same day the following week.
hope it makes sense.

i know mini example

jinzo64
hulk vs doomsday

barty64
doomsday would win because

fishfreek
hulk would win because

bladegraffiti
doomsday would win because

bladegraffiti it's your go.

That was the original idea but whats going on right now is pretty cool.
so we can stick with the new formula and see how things work out.

Hugs for kaiju for trying to troll me with Bleach losing to fate bate.

[Sir Fluffykins]

Alright, NEW VS BATTLE

http://i.imgur.com/EE5L5IZ.jpg

GO!

[Kaiju]

The Original rules slightly edited
a new game.
this is a v.s game ,people will get to discuss who would win a fight between 2 different characters from one of the 4 anime,manga,games and movies.
then the person who posted the fight will judge on the best argument for the winner of the fight and pick a winner.
then the winner will post a new fight and be the judge this will run from the day the fight is posted to the same day the following week.
hope it makes sense.

i know mini example

jinzo64
hulk vs doomsday

barty64
doomsday would win because

fishfreek
hulk would win because

bladegraffiti
doomsday would win because

bladegraffiti it's your go.

That was the original idea but whats going on right now is pretty cool.
so we can stick with the new formula and see how things work out.

Hugs for kaiju for trying to troll me with Bleach losing to fate bate.

Actually I was just using you as an example. My REAL HOPE was the Lincoln Park AMV kiddos to hop on in.

[jinzo64]

Alright, NEW VS BATTLE

http://i.imgur.com/EE5L5IZ.jpg

GO!So together vs forever?


Actually I was just using you as an example. My REAL HOPE was the Lincoln Park AMV kiddos to hop on in.

I see I was an example thats cool.

Lincoln park isn't it Linkin park?