[darkzi]

face it I do not own a console just a pc and a psp so I figured might as well toss in a forum for us games for buy/rent/pass; besides a good review is one from gamer to gamer instead of paycheck to gamer

example:
Mimana: Iyar Chronicles
System: PSP

Pros: voiced cutscenes, anime cutscenes, basic rpg, easy to follow story, OST has answering machine for each character which adds humor, characters are well designed and played, just main story and no sidequesting which is a pro in my book due to good to sit down and play instead of running back and forth in towns to get that title or hidden item

Cons: not worth the 40 bucks it's sold for, about 20 hrs long, soundtrack is only 18 mins long, dungeons are easy to get lost in and the puzzles make you do circles a lot, run into a random ecounter about every 3-5 seconds, spells in battle are easy ways to have enemies get a free hit on you, to get from point to point you have to walk the same trails over and over

Personal rating of the game: B-

overall the cons of the game it is still a good rpg to just sit down and play but just not to buy for your own or atleasted a new copy
Answer: rent



I mean if you want to you can even use this page to ask about games you are wanting to buy in the future; since most review sites are basicly going this game is good and this game is bad without really explaining why


so Transformers: war on cybertron...should I buy it for my pc or borrow it from a friend?

[ThePsychoGamer]

Isn't this just a much more restricted version of the review thread made about a week ago

http://amvhell.com/showthread.php?t=2564

[darkzi]

Isn't this just a much more restricted version of the review thread made about a week ago

http://amvhell.com/showthread.php?t=2564

I didnt even know that thread was up; must of been placed up when my net was acting up

[jinzo64]

bio shock is a keeper
it's awsome a city under the sea.

[darkzi]

bio shock is a keeper
it's awsome a city under the sea.

though I gotta say the multi on bioshock 2 is a lil off balanced

[jinzo64]

i havn't played bioshock 2 yet but i didn't know it had a multi player mode.

[abyssion1337]

bioshock 2 was a pile of garbage

[jinzo64]

realy i guess i'll find out for myself when i play it.

[Chillpalazzo]

Anyone play Halo Reach yet?

[acutekat]

Anyone play Halo Reach yet?

yup

multiplayer is worth it

if you really want an in-depth review of the game ask me real nice and i might do it.

[tanis_lionheart]

PSP Games:
Download

[Fishfreeek]

bioshock 2 was a pile of garbage

agreed, bioshock 3 looks even worse...


PSP Games:
Download

PC games
download XD

[tanis_lionheart]

System Shock 2 (PC):
Before 'Bioshock', 'Doom 3', 'Dead Space' or even 'Run Like Hell', there was...System Shock 2.

Pros:
Epic, twisted, story.
Atmosphere horror as part of the 'game play'. (Like Silent Hill)
Solid game play and decent music.

Fan made 'update' to graphics.

Cons:
It's a FPS...low blow?
But, it's also a FPS that's trying to be a Third-Person Action/Adventure Horror/Mystery.

Graphics, and even much of the sound, is dated. Not for the 'OMG BLOOM EFFECT crowed, at all.

Fan made update, at least for me, crashes a bit much.


Personal Rating - A

"Without Nostalgia Rating" - B-/+

[emrfish6]

I know the game is old and all but...

Fallout 3, a must buy.

I myself pre-ordered new vegas and am greatly looking forward to it

[tanis_lionheart]

I know the game is old and all but...

Fallout 3, a must buy.

I myself pre-ordered new vegas and am greatly looking forward to it

FO3 is old?


Damn...

[jinzo64]

how is fallout 3 old?
it's was launched in 2008 wasn't it i don't think 2 years makes somthing old.
now somthing like sonic the hedgehog on MD thats old.

[emrfish6]

Old as in not within the last year or so. And since the next fallout is coming out

[jinzo64]

oh i see.
but i thought the next fallout was just an expansion for fallout 3.

[emrfish6]

Nope, New Vegas is a whole new game with a new story and new location.

[ThePsychoGamer]

yup

multiplayer is worth it

if you really want an in-depth review of the game ask me real nice and i might do it.

Not 110 dollar... 210 if you have an older version of the system

[abyssion1337]

ok time for me to make some comments, everyone brace yourselves

It's not bioshock 3 that's coming out, it's a prequel and given the game's lore there might *might* be some merit to it

System Shock 2, you're wrong, horror/mystery games can be a lot better in first person mode, just check out anything Frictional games has made. Also without nostalgia factor the game is a solid A+ finally, there's nothing wrong with an FPS, I just don't like most of them because they're all generic as though FPS devs are afraid of innovation.

Halo: Reach, I couldn't care less about this game, the halo series had a kinda cool first game after that they started to suck, it's also the prime example of how stupid microsoft really is (seriously a game that popular and it doesn't even get a pc port, what the **** is wrong with your marketing department)

FO3, terrible game, the balance is wacky and it's in no way as good as the first two, particularly FO2. some of the in game lore makes no sense, FO3 couldn't possibly take place when they say it does and the game is so empty. I'll admit I've spent quite some time on it and like oblivion it becomes quite a bit of fun once you add about 4 to 10 gigs of mods to the game.

[jinzo64]

i'm looking forard to see how bioshock infinite ties in with the other 2 games.

[acutekat]

CIV V comes out on Tuesday and it will be epic

[LOLWTFBBQ]

I have FO3 with all the DLC and I can say that its deffinately fun, but not addicting enough. dont get me wrong, its a great game and everything, the DLC makes up for a lack of plot, but I have lost some interest, and my gaming laptop leaves a bit to be desired.

HALO: Reach is an awesome game, cant be denying reach over here. I have yet to play it but I have more than enough input on it. the only thing it could be lacking is the Single Player, but I dont think its much of a lack.

personaly Im a PC gamer, I dont own a console, and I always lean more toward PC if I did.

[abyssion1337]

if you haven't actually played Halo: Reach then you really can't say much about it, as such I have a friend who loves his 360 and I did play a little (under duress) and I have to say, I never cared for Halo's multiplayer (except the first one when I was younger and stupider) and the part anyone should be caring about is the single player, which almost makes up for halo's 2 and 3. I'm also a pc gamer.

[Backmask]

Honestly, I don't care for video games as much as I used to.

[abyssion1337]

that's probably because of the overall drop in quality

[jinzo64]

thtas a sad truth game quality seems to have gone down it realy started back in the days of gc,xbox,dc and ps2 but realy came to head on the current generatin of consoles to many sequals and to many shooters.
i think the last great consoles were the n64 and ps1.

[abyssion1337]

not really, games were still at a high for the early days of the cube,ps2 and dreamcast, and the pc will always be great

[LOLWTFBBQ]

so I assume you mean quality as in story and gameplay, because visual quality is constantly getting better and better.

I just realised one thing, everyone here is amazingly biased!

how many of you keep up regularly with multiple gaming news inputs? if you did you would know more about the excellent variety of good games vs bad games through reviews. Im not accusing any of you for anything, I just think that you guys dont get enough input to call a game that you dont have a winner or loser.

[jinzo64]

so I assume you mean quality as in story and gameplay, because visual quality is constantly getting better and better.

I just realised one thing, everyone here is amazingly biased!

how many of you keep up regularly with multiple gaming news inputs? if you did you would know more about the excellent variety of good games vs bad games through reviews. Im not accusing any of you for anything, I just think that you guys dont get enough input to call a game that you dont have a winner or loser.

yes the main qualities of any game great story and game play.
graphics do help but there not realy the most important part of a game.

yes i am biased i think nearly all shooters and fighters are rubbish.

i used read nom but that more biased than i am to much mario love.

no i don't keep up gaming news inputs.

[darkzi]

face it the birth of the xbox ruined gaming; not saying that cause Im a psx fan but once it came out they dropped in singleplayer and put more into multiplay...I mean multiplay is fun but I hate how all games are 'ohh you learned to shoot, gratz you beat the game in 30 mins' I mean Im not saying multiplay is lame but I love a good story and gameplay..hell give me sidescrolling if need to be

[abyssion1337]

that's an incredibly foolish sentiment, reviewers for the most part have incredibly low standards and will say a game is fine as long as 1 thing stands out to them, it's because ultimately they're selling games to people who only see games as toys and not as something that can be so much more profound. I might be opinionated but at least I'm not full of crap.

I have to say I agree with darkzi, but not for the reason he stated, more that the reason he listed is a byproduct of the real reason and that's simple: the xbox was made for non-gamers, they essentially formed a whole new tier of casual gamer, those who played what was closer to actual games unlike those silly puzzle games popcap churns out, but still without the same amount of depth, a group of people who assign value to graphics and how well they show the mindless violence and gore they so crave. This was successful because of how much this demographic outnumbers actual gamers, companies have found them that much more profitable so they just focused on that; of course this leads to all the games like the modern warfare 2, where there's an incredibly ****ty single player campaign and a laughably unbalanced multiplayer so poorly crafted you can almost see it falling apart. Conversely let's take a brief look at valve: Half-Life 2, probably the best shooter ever made and many would say game ever made (though I'm not so presumptuous) it only had a single players campaign and it was extremely well crafted in every possibly way. On the other side we have Counter-Strike, because the game only had a multiplayer it was well crafted in a different way; the game was extremely balanced giving both teams an equal chance of winning. Of course there's a third part that works in favor of both games, their community support, both have rather strong mod communities that tend to churn out some pretty cool things (and some pretty stupid ones but you can always just not play them)

[darkzi]

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/090423.jpg

[jinzo64]

that's an incredibly foolish sentiment, reviewers for the most part have incredibly low standards and will say a game is fine as long as 1 thing stands out to them, it's because ultimately they're selling games to people who only see games as toys and not as something that can be so much more profound. I might be opinionated but at least I'm not full of crap.

I have to say I agree with darkzi, but not for the reason he stated, more that the reason he listed is a byproduct of the real reason and that's simple: the xbox was made for non-gamers, they essentially formed a whole new tier of casual gamer, those who played what was closer to actual games unlike those silly puzzle games popcap churns out, but still without the same amount of depth, a group of people who assign value to graphics and how well they show the mindless violence and gore they so crave. This was successful because of how much this demographic outnumbers actual gamers, companies have found them that much more profitable so they just focused on that; of course this leads to all the games like the modern warfare 2, where there's an incredibly ****ty single player campaign and a laughably unbalanced multiplayer so poorly crafted you can almost see it falling apart. Conversely let's take a brief look at valve: Half-Life 2, probably the best shooter ever made and many would say game ever made (though I'm not so presumptuous) it only had a single players campaign and it was extremely well crafted in every possibly way. On the other side we have Counter-Strike, because the game only had a multiplayer it was well crafted in a different way; the game was extremely balanced giving both teams an equal chance of winning. Of course there's a third part that works in favor of both games, their community support, both have rather strong mod communities that tend to churn out some pretty cool things (and some pretty stupid ones but you can always just not play them)

thats very well thought out.

i know the typical view is that cute,bouncy games like mario and wind waker are seen as casual games and that shooters or gory games are seen as hardcore.
but i believe if you play games as a main hobby and plays the games they like
me i play games to death especialy things like zelda got over 50 hours on a game with 30 hours of game play. a hardcore gamer looks for everything even if theres no trophy or achievment like in the days of the n64.

i think a casual gamer is someone who plays games for less than 10 hours a week. or bought a wii for wii fit.

[darkzi]

I mean hell I love shadow of colossus, that was a perfect game on the ps2

[jinzo64]

that was well awsome i still need to play ico.

[darkzi]

same let alone the save data from ico does 1 minor change in colossus

[jinzo64]

does it i wasn't aware of that what changes?

[darkzi]

ya changes your horse's name to Ico when you beat Ico

[jinzo64]

well i'm underwelmed
if you find a copy ocarina of time is worth keeping.
best game ever

[darkzi]

though I must say Metriod: other M is a pass..team ninja ruined Samus's GAR

[jinzo64]

i've read mixed reviews on that but generaly it scores highly.
i wasn't a big fan of metroid prime games not enough save points for my liking.

[darkzi]

I enjoyed metriod prime..just not killing metriod prime

[tanis_lionheart]

Metriod: The Other M

It's a decent game, but Samus sounds stupid.
She's too 'cheerleader', when she should be an 'Amazon'.

[darkzi]

as I said..they ruined her GAR lol

[jinzo64]

isn't metroid other m the back story to samus aron so maybe she sounds cheerleaderish because she's younger then in metroid prime triliogy.

[darkzi]

na cause she was trained to be a warrior by the Chizo at a young age then joined the federation to take revenge on the space pirates; so even for being young in the game she wouldnt really fall under girly

[jinzo64]

i guess thats true.
oh well can't have a winner every time.

bit like sonic heroes,sonic and the secret rings,sonic and the black kinght.
are all needed to be avoided

[darkzi]

agree, sonic was only good from genesis to dreamcast..after that it was pretty...kiddish though they are releasing a sonic 4 onto the wiiware that is gonna play like the genesis ones

[jinzo64]

to be honest i liked sonic unleashed but i am looking forward to sonic 4.

[tanis_lionheart]

i guess thats true.
oh well can't have a winner every time.

bit like sonic heroes,sonic and the secret rings,sonic and the black kinght.
are all needed to be avoided

Sonic Heroes wasn't THAT bad.
It's probably the best 3D sonic game...which isn't saying much...but still.

[jinzo64]

oh no it isn't it's near the bottom of the 3d sonic games
my list would be
1st sonic adventure 2 battle
2nd sonic adventure dx
3rd sonic unleashed
4th sonic 3d flickies island
5th sonic r
6th sonic the hedgehog (ps3 and 360)
7th sonic and the secret rings
8th sonic heroes
9th sonic and the black knight

[tanis_lionheart]

Is that sarcasm jinzo64?

Shame shame.

Putting ANYTHING above Sonic 360 has to be sarcasm.

Hell even that one with the guns in it was better.

[jinzo64]

the one with was not sonic that was shadow
and no that wasn't sarcasm sonic 360/ps3 was traggic in single player and in multi if you didn't need to jump silver was unbeatable start of race oh look you can't move oh look i win.
i'm sorry but it was rubbish.
i'm sticking to my guns the sonic adventure games are the best 3d sonic games.
and unleashed on the wii and ps2 is best 3d sonic on the current consoles.

[tanis_lionheart]

But unleashed at all that 'Werewolf' crap in it.

For a game that's about SPEED, those parts of the game KILLED it for me.

[Leef]

I remember trying to play sonic 3D Blast. It made me to dizzy to ever get past the third Zone.

[tanis_lionheart]

Actually, 'Sonic Riders' was pretty good some to think of it.

It's no Wipeout, but for a game I was expecting to suck...it did pretty good.

[jinzo64]

i know the warehog bits were lame i agree but the speed bits were awsome as was the last boss story wasn't overly good either but it's a sonic game.

i realy enjoyed sonic 3d i think the third stage is spring stadium.

oh i forgot about sonic riders there okay nice idea still think they should have just done sonic r 2 i thought i t was better concept for the sonic franchise

[darkzi]

though the speed on some of the places was F'ING HARD it was like tron lightbike speed

[jinzo64]

technicaly it should be the speed of sound.

my mate told me years ago that
normal sonic can do the speed of sound
super sonic can do mark 5
and hyper can do near light speed

[abyssion1337]

wow did I miss out as for my thoughts on the matters:

Metroid other M: Team Ninja made good mechanics that really brought the fighting to life, and the game looked great. The story and characterization was worse than **** and for no real reason, people claim that it's team ninja's inability to write female characters but THEY DIDN't WRITE THE GAME, THE CO-CREATOR OF METROID DID: WTF. I mean they even managed to get Adam's character wrong and he was only in Metroid Fusion... as a computer.

Sonic Unleashed: congratulations sonic team you've made a game worse than Shadow the Hedgehog. please get in line for your trophy and complimentary by mandatory kick in the balls

[jinzo64]

no i think sonic unleashed was better than shadow the hedgehog then i'm just not a fan of shooters.

[tanis_lionheart]

Persona 1:
Great game, but a bit dated. The PSP port/remake makes it so playing the original PS1 version is only for the retard or nostalgic.
It's genuinely creepy and very 'old school JRPG' in the battles and feel of the overall game.
It's got that 'gothic' feel that you don't really see outside of games like 'Blood Omen'.

Persona 2 - Part 1:
Sequal to P1.
Good game, fixed lots of battle/music gripes from P1. The story is weird, and, not your typical 'Pretty people save the world from some emo kid with a big sword' crap.

Persona 2 - Part 2:
While never officially getting a an English release there is a fan-translation that probably better than P1 & P2p1's 'official translation' (and it's easy enough to convert to an eboot).
Continues the story which, for me, can get really 'Metal Gear Solid' convoluted is worth the weird ride towards the end.
It also updated graphics/game play/music, however...might be a bit dated by today's standards.

Persona 3:
The first 'mainstream' Persona game has little/nothing to do story wise with the original games, and is very 'JPop'.
The music is great, the battle system is so much more fluid, and I personally loved the story.
Only issue with the game is the AI...really stupid sometimes.

Persona 3 - FES:
Continues the story of P3 and adds loads of new stuff like Persona, equipment, difficulty settings, and...as stated previous a new story mod that fixes/officially ends the story in P3 via a tale from Aigis' point of few.
However, 'The Answer', Aigis' story, is basically a turn-based dudgeon crawler...which is kind of a shame.

Persona 4:
Again, pretty much a standalone story.
Takes place in a small town where you get to go inside a TV and 'solve murder mysteries'.
While I love P3 for bringing me back into JRPGs, P4 has a superior battle system (no more AI controlled units...unless you want them) and an overall more socially relevant & mature story that keeps you playing.
One thing that more of a nit-picking than anything else is the 'yellow' of it all.
I hate yellow, and the MC looked a bit too dorky for my taste.

Beyond that, it really is a better game to P3 in terms of dudgeon's actually changing depending on who/what you're going after.
However, some of the puns are really un-bear-able.

Persona 1 Portable:
Taking everything good about P1 and giving it fresh paint is all good. From the removal of 'black-face' to the addition of 'The Ice Queen' this is an old school JRPG's fan dream come true.
This game is hard, at times a grindfest, and features some of the best 'gothic' looking rpg elements in any game I've played.
While it moves away from the 'lets date to gain powers' crap of the never Persona games, it updates it's 'bribe a demon/monster to help you in battle or join your side or run away or give you an item'...a very weird, very cool, game play element.

Persona 3 Portable:
Missing FES kind of hurts it, I think. However, all the rest seems to be here.
While lots of the anime cut-scenes got cut, the core of the game is here...WITH A NEW PATH TOO BOOT!
Adding in the combat improvements of P4 & an added story mode that allows you to play as a female (which was a bit awkward became I'm a male and all) really makes this THE JRPG to play on the PSP.

---------------------
TL;DR?
Persona 3:FES (PS2)
Persona 1 Potable (PSP)
Persona 2: Part 2 (PS1)
Persona 4 (PS2)
Persona 3 Portable (PSP)
Persona 2: Part 1 (PS1)
Persona 1 (PS1)
Persona 3 (PS2)

:)

[darkzi]

I've always wanted to play that but my question is this..is it rpg or tactics?

[Kira2521]

Got P3P, played through both stories and it was great. And if you play the female story you get a choice in the velvet room whether to have Elizabeth or some guy named Theodor. They edited some of the story points in it pretty well i think, though the point in the story where the protagonist meets Aigis is a little disapointing but still good. In the male story you try to hit on her after Akihiko and Junpei and she runs away, in the female it's only Junpei and Akihiko who try to hit on her (and they still use the same lame pickup lines) then she suddenly turns around and runs in to the forest to find the female protagonist. It still ends in pretty much the same way thought, nothing different about the battle with Nyx.

[tanis_lionheart]

I've always wanted to play that but my question is this..is it rpg or tactics?
They're a series of JRPGs.

[darkzi]

They're a series of JRPGs.

I meant the battle system; is it like tactics or turn based..I've always been eyeballing the series for my psp I never knew of how the battle system was lol

[tanis_lionheart]

I meant the battle system; is it like tactics or turn based..I've always been eyeballing the series for my psp I never knew of how the battle system was lol
Well..tactics is turn-based.

I guess if you're asking is it more like 'Final Fantasy Tactics' or 'Final Fantasy 9'.
It's more FF9.

It's not a series SRPG.


In the Persona games you collect demons/monsters to help you in battle as 'summons' and you can build up their levels and spells.
For Persona 3 you can build up your MC's attributes by various means, one being dating/friendships you form outside of battle.

[abyssion1337]

yeah, don't say tactics, strategy is much less confusing, being clear is a good thing

[darkzi]

ahh just how most games has the 'strategy' setup is always called tactics but now I know to say strategy; because knowledge is POWER...curse you schoolhouse rock

[jinzo64]

i'm lost.
i know theres real time battles like tales of symphonia
and turn based battles like in dragonquest nine of an ff game.

then those games were teams start on the other side of the field from each other and you have make your way across the map to the opponent but there still turn based.

[abyssion1337]

i'm lost.
i know theres real time battles like tales of symphonia
and turn based battles like in dragonquest nine of an ff game.

then those games were teams start on the other side of the field from each other and you have make your way across the map to the opponent but there still turn based.

like The Last Remnant, I call that one lazy programming

[tanis_lionheart]

i'm lost.
i know theres real time battles like tales of symphonia
and turn based battles like in dragonquest nine of an ff game.

then those games were teams start on the other side of the field from each other and you have make your way across the map to the opponent but there still turn based.

It also has to do with the style.

If they move via squares, it's probably a SRPG.

If they don't move, except to attack/cast stuff, it's probably a JRPG.

[abyssion1337]

Hexes are superior to squares in all games except SRPG games

[scarmullet]

Aliens Vs Predator (PS3 version)

Ok, first off the load times are a bit long, but that could be remedied by jailbreaking my PS3 and installing the game to the hard drive with backup manager. At this time, I have only played the Alien missions (since I prefer the Alien series over Predator), and they are difficult, first person stealth. The special attacks take too long to kill marines, its faster to do two heavy hits and they die, but it is easy to sneak around or even sneak up behind your enemies and get em.

Also, the game does have a signature sega visual style that is reminiscent of Sega Dreamcast, which is nice.

What really breaks it for me is the lack of the Atari Jaguar version of Aliens Vs Predator which is a very good game on a very ****ty console. But with the growth of the PS3 Homebrew scene in the last month, an Atari Jaguar emulator may be planned in the future.

I suggest you buy it.

[darkzi]

Aliens Vs Predator (PS3 version)

Ok, first off the load times are a bit long, but that could be remedied by jailbreaking my PS3 and installing the game to the hard drive with backup manager. At this time, I have only played the Alien missions (since I prefer the Alien series over Predator), and they are difficult, first person stealth. The special attacks take too long to kill marines, its faster to do two heavy hits and they die, but it is easy to sneak around or even sneak up behind your enemies and get em.

Also, the game does have a signature sega visual style that is reminiscent of Sega Dreamcast, which is nice.

What really breaks it for me is the lack of the Atari Jaguar version of Aliens Vs Predator which is a very good game on a very ****ty console. But with the growth of the PS3 Homebrew scene in the last month, an Atari Jaguar emulator may be planned in the future.

I suggest you buy it.

ya what gets everyone is that it's the team that did the AVP games on pc not the other ones that is why it isnt like the atari version and such; though I addon that do not buy it for pc due to the NVIDIA driver issue that happens on the game so you have to play on lowest to play it or else it crashes constant; this also leads to barely anyone playing it online so once you beat the stories there is really nothing else you can do..so after 5 hrs you are done with it

[scarmullet]

Wasn't the NVIDIA thing patched?

I am sure the Consoles have fine online play, I wouldn't know because I am keeping my firmware at 3.41 so I can use my Jailbreak, and homebrew.

[HalOfBorg]

"Star Ruler"
http://store.steampowered.com/app/70900/

BUT - I am biased since my son is the Blind Mind Studios Lead Developer, so don't take my word for it, try the free demo:

http://starruler.blind-mind.com/files/Star%20Ruler%20Demo.torrent
http://starruler.blind-mind.com/files/SR_DEMO_v1012.exe

[darkzi]

Wasn't the NVIDIA thing patched?

I am sure the Consoles have fine online play, I wouldn't know because I am keeping my firmware at 3.41 so I can use my Jailbreak, and homebrew.

it's nvidia..they havnet fixed that problem for years...I was so fed up with it that I went to ATI..havent complained since

[Kira2521]

Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 will be out soon, I know its out in japan December so im guessing early next year for the western version

[jinzo64]

if you live in america maybe.
but if you live in europe it probably won't be seen till the mid of autumn/fall.
beause it needs to translated in so many different langauges.