[amb4manga]

It could be anime, video game, doesn't matter.

Princess Serenity/Selenity (Sailor Moon)
Princess Euphemia (Code Geass)
Princess Peach/Daisy (Mario Series)
Estellise Sidos Heurassein (Tales of Vesperia)

[Ranma]

Daisy!

[stinkyfranki]

Myself

[Evileel]

Princess Stinkyfranki

[zanemalindeal]

Zelda No other has a right to call themselves a princess because no other has single handedly orchestrated the saving of a country

[abyssion1337]

Zelda No other has a right to call themselves a princess because no other has single handedly orchestrated the saving of a country

never has so wrong a statement been uttered: The countless examples from anime aside, Princess Peach has done the same with the mushroom Kingdom a couple times and there have been final fantasy games (12 comes to mind) where the same has happened and this is without me actually trying to find examples

[Kuni Linguist]

never has so wrong a statement been uttered: The countless examples from anime aside, Princess Peach has done the same with the mushroom Kingdom a couple times and there have been final fantasy games (12 comes to mind) where the same has happened and this is without me actually trying to find examples

I'm with ya here on this one. I must say my fav from a game? Peach, although daisy wears a yellow dress, and yellow is my favorite colour, I go with peach, Anime? Euphemia li Britannia from Code Geass, and Disney I like Ariel from The Little mermaid, I don't know why. I'm not overly into red heads, I like brunettes, Which is also confusing to myself about daisy. Prob cuz Daisy is a sham of a princess, and Peach is amazing. Zelda is sweet and all, I guess, and I used to read the Metroid comics, and for some reason feel Samus is supposed to either be the princess of her old race before that alien tribe took her in or they made her their princess, but I stopped liking the games after the SNES version.

[zanemalindeal]

never has so wrong a statement been uttered: The countless examples from anime aside, Princess Peach has done the same with the mushroom Kingdom a couple times and there have been final fantasy games (12 comes to mind) where the same has happened and this is without me actually trying to find examples

Honestly. You're wrong. You can't give peach any credit at all because all she ever does is get captured. "Thank you for saving us Mario, but our Princess is in another castle" comes to mind. Zelda has been this way since the first game history shows that Zelda Orchestrates either as Sheik or Zelda. Peach? Always gets captured always. For it to be any other way would be an insult to the Mario origins.

Uphy? Idk. Maybe, but the only reason she makes the "Specially administrated zone of Japan" is because of Suzaku. Its not that she actually cares about the people. Though i'm not saying she Can't be a favorite. And with stuff like that i can't say any of them truely have the right to call themselves Princesses of Princlings. I mean what? There was a 99th in line for the throne there was no reason for any of them to think they'd get the kingdom. A guy that cares so little for his own kids would break up the world before he let one of them take over.

[abyssion1337]

Yeah there are a few games where you play as peach dumbass

[zanemalindeal]

Not prior to the game cube and the history of these games was set before then. Especially when you consider that the game cube was the worst gaming console ever made. And that's not just personal opinion. It has actually been rated the worst by the major companies and many many gamer mags. So if it happened after N64, which it did, you goes against the history and is therefore moot.

[Kuni Linguist]

um, in some zelda games, she is just the dumb bitch at the end, or asks you to go help get **** done. hell in links awakening I dont even think she is there lol. and she most of the time is all "oh **** im stuck being some dumb braud who cant help but get kidnapped by gannon or have my kingdom taken over and my people turned into zombies or monsters or killed so ima hide as a ninja, give a few pearls of wisdom, ASSIST on a few things but in the end rely on some elf kid who shouldnt have to do **** about my kingdom but will cuz I cant"

I understand being a zelda fan, but dont put down peach cuz she isnt the best princess for games in every one. but in most she is a equal, in 1 mario game, the first, she is kidnapped. but in 2 she is the hero if you choose it, mind it was a dream and a spin off, in 3 she wasnt even involved other then bestowing the hero mario with gifts for helping her kingdom, and for other games like 64, ya her castle was taken over by some dueche who has a kingdom of his own, but in smash bros or in tennis or any others she is an equal, and she is in mario rpg where even big king bowser eats **** and needs help.

No kingdom is perfect, no princess is either, its a matter of what story you like, what kind of princess and what gameplay/anime got you into them. I like a frilly nice girl who will run the kingdom but will smack a bitch upside the head with a frying pan if **** gets real, you like Zelda due to her... um strong attitude? her ability to use magic and to have agility as a ninja if needs be? ()not a normal trait of a princess, but im sure an admirable one) I like a socal figure for a princess, someone the kingdom has faith in and raises moral. you may like zelda for other reasons, but in the end, bot games have ways that the princess's take charge but really its the main chars in those games who do all the work.

I am sorry for my negative approach to the start about Zelda, but you bashed my peach. so I back tracked after and gave her much deserved credit, can you be so big as to do the same?

[zanemalindeal]

Nope, cause going by original story, as i thought i got across, peach doesn't do jack **** other than get kidnapped or say Hey go defeat boweser again. Zelda freakin plans everything out ahead of time. She sees Ganon coming and goes oh **** this guy is gonna try to take the kingdom. I'm gonna tell everyone i can and find everything that will help. In Ocarina she practically awakens the sages herself. She's always at each dungeon before you, well when you're an adult anyway, and she's already given her guidance where its accepted and when you finally are ready to go face Gannon she pops in and is ready to fight along side you. (Don't want to give Too many spoilers so i won't say what happens next.) I don't Hate peach, but when you actually look at who runs or saves a kingdom better? You really can't argue that Zelda wins hands down.

[Kuni Linguist]

oh I can, she bails on the kingdom lets it be taken over and after the fact tries to be tghere, that is one game, and original story line? there are so many universes that dont intersect together for both games, so its an on average thing if anything. and on average they both **** up, they both suck and they both kick ass, but Peach is a sunshine smiling cute princess with a positive and uprising attitude that spreads through her kingdom and has help from many of her subjects who follow her and those whom are from other kingdoms. and Zelda has a strict rule, but it seems like someone else runs it till tragity strikes or she is running it knows she cant fight so she flees into the shadows and tries to set up a chain of events that can fix the **** that went wrong, just like peach, peach sends letters asking mario to come help and in many games is a playable char too, how many games can you be zelda? and how many does she just ask for help? I am sure she is a great princess and a strong willed and very resourceful princess, but peach is too, and its a friendly cloud filled and happy place with dudes who want torment, vs. a more realistic midevil world of suffering and despair as well as peace that is taken over by evil ****s who want nothing more then destruction. so really it's an unfair comparison, but if put on the same field peach and zelda are close if not peach ahead for defending the kingdom herself, and zelda ahead for skills and resourcefulness and intel. its like saying a stephen king world vs a disney world lol

[abyssion1337]

zane not only are you just wrong, you're just wrong about a lot of things, The gamecube isn't actually the worst rated system ever, that honor still and will always go to the CDI not to mention the plethora of failed systems in the early days when games were leaving the arcade but your main princess argument is terribly terribly flawed; first you clearly have only played one or two zelda games because there's a few where the princess just sits around waiting for link to solve everything, moreover Peach has a couple of games where she just is the main character and solves all the problems (super princess peach anyone) I find it amusing that you can be so wrong, have a couple people tell you how you're wrong and so you just outright call them wrong. I study this sort of thing, you don't know more about it than I do and you're not even doing a good job qualifying your statements

[jinzo64]

i think both peach and zelda are awsome they both get kiddnapped and rescued.
they've both had there own games.
peach- super princess peach on ds.
zelda- zeldas adventure on cdi.
zelda
shes helps as sheik and beat ganondorf in ocarina of time
she helps beat ganondorf in windwaker
she helps again spirit tracks against the last boss

peach helps in
super paper mario as you play as her
super mario 2 play as her

pity samus isn't a princess

[Kuni Linguist]

i think both peach and zelda are awsome they both get kiddnapped and rescued.
they've both had there own games.
peach- super princess peach on ds.
zelda- zeldas adventure on cdi.
zelda
shes helps as sheik and beat ganondorf in ocarina of time
she helps beat ganondorf in windwaker
she helps again spirit tracks against the last boss

peach helps in
super paper mario as you play as her
super mario 2 play as her

pity samus isn't a princess

super princess peach as well, and super mario rpg the seven star saga for snes where it is actually the start of paper mario series but due to copyright laws cuz it was a collaboration with square it was switched in titles... and then mario kart and the party series's where she takes charge. plus as i said mario 2 for NES you can play as her too.

And I will get back to you on the Samus thing, I used to read the comics. I feel I read she was the last survivor of her race before being adopted by the other one, but might have been a princess, don't hold me to it. if not it was like she was their princess, I don't recall but I read something like that I think. I will double check before confirming my beliefs as facts lol

[jinzo64]

oh what about princess ruto she more useless than orhime or sakura i know there not princess's but there just there for the purpose of references.

[abyssion1337]

Jinzo you're forgetting all the CDI zelda games sucked and we all try to forget they were ever made

As for Samus she's not a princess neither is she the last of her race, she's a human and the planet her parents were colonists on were attacked by space pirates, she was the only survivor. She was saved by the Chozo who gave her the power armor and trained her before phazon pollution wiped them out

[jinzo64]

like i said pity samus isn't princess.

[Kuni Linguist]

Jinzo you're forgetting all the CDI zelda games sucked and we all try to forget they were ever made

As for Samus she's not a princess neither is she the last of her race, she's a human and the planet her parents were colonists on were attacked by space pirates, she was the only survivor. She was saved by the Chozo who gave her the power armor and trained her before phazon pollution wiped them out

ya your right, havnt played the games beyond super metroid, but watched friends beat them many times, and I read it in a comic from nintendo power, but when looking online found no reference to that comic sadly, but it seems she was a survivor of colonists and then was saved by the chozo and injected with thier dna to increase her strength, and then metroid dna later to save her life, and phazon and so much ****, she is a new race all together at this point, and ya the chozo are whiped out, she is thier last hope I guess, in a sense. but really a unique race

[jinzo64]

i've only ever played metroid prime on the gamecube

but i've played a lot of the zelda games.

[abyssion1337]

that's pretty accurate for someone who's only played up to super metroid, especially since the series has a minimal amount of expositionary text or dialogue (**** other m, btw)

[stinkyfranki]

What about Princess Mononoke? That girl is BA!

[jinzo64]

oh yeah shes awsome.
one of the first animes i wvwe watched was princess mononoke.

[Kuni Linguist]

that's pretty accurate for someone who's only played up to super metroid, especially since the series has a minimal amount of expositionary text or dialogue (**** other m, btw)

lol my buddy ryan loves metroid and I watched him play a lot, and I used to collect nintendo power, which ironically I was getting off him lol. and I also read the blurbs on smash bros fro the trophies a lot too and I love final fantasy as my main thing, my buddy clayton loves megaman, which makes a lot of comparisons and debates which require people to bring up facts.

So in the end I read up a lot on these things. I have not played many games to the end but have back seated more games then most have played lol. sometimes 2 at once when a house of gamers is formed. like mine now, I watch a room with a projector wall for ps3 and a few comps plugged in sometimes running emulator games or running fallout or something.

I have spent more time reading about fallout 3 and how to make it perfect in the end then playing it, and debates like this challenge my intellect making me grow as a person. my talks with you alone have made me look harder into things and learn, which in all honesty helps a lot which is why over the years I come back. if only to read lol. I am not always right and sometimes far from it, but when I hit my mark I try to do so with flair.

back to princesses though, Ima through it out to Pacifica Casull too, my fav animes are trigun, then cowboy bebop then tied for 3rd is Key the metal idol and Scrapped princess... I know some main streams in there, it used to be gundam in there and hellsing, but I realized they were pushed aside too easy, but I always have stayed with Trigun as my top, especially the manga, I like cowboy bebop for action char development and how it was animated, and key has everything I love, it and edens bowy were amazing but key pushed above. and scrapped princess the animation, the voice actors for the dub were actually good, the chars and the ideals in the anime, the no sense of true justice blew my mind, never thought of it the way the one knight describes it. Animes like that stick with you.

So Pacifica Casull this ones to you

[jinzo64]

what about chichi does see count as a princess her father is the ox king.

princess snake is evil.

[zanemalindeal]

zane not only are you just wrong, you're just wrong about a lot of things, The gamecube isn't actually the worst rated system ever, that honor still and will always go to the CDI not to mention the plethora of failed systems in the early days when games were leaving the arcade but your main princess argument is terribly terribly flawed; first you clearly have only played one or two zelda games because there's a few where the princess just sits around waiting for link to solve everything, moreover Peach has a couple of games where she just is the main character and solves all the problems (super princess peach anyone) I find it amusing that you can be so wrong, have a couple people tell you how you're wrong and so you just outright call them wrong. I study this sort of thing, you don't know more about it than I do and you're not even doing a good job qualifying your statements

You seem to completely ignore the accepted cannons, which is all i focus on. And on top of that other than maybe one game where you can play as Peach they are all seen as spin off and thus makes them moot for this argument. I'm not saying there aren't a few bad Zelda games. Majora's mask comes to mind, but of the accepted Zelda cannon Majora's mask is the only one that strays from even having Zelda. From everything i've seen here it really is coming down to personal preference. Though seeing as Zelda actually fights in the accepted cannon where as Peach does not, i still say Peach does not deserve to be called a princess, but that can also be brought down to preference seeing as i like Princesses that actually do something and don't just sit on their respective asses while the hero runs about solving puzzles and kicking ass. And as a final note. Seeing as this thread is based on people's own personal opinions neither of us really have a right to tell the other they are wrong.

[jinzo64]

there was nothing wrong with majoras mask it's a good game.

[zanemalindeal]

o.O I own it and have beaten it. I know how horid it was. Story line boring and not very creative and the addition of the 3 day time frame just served to piss Everyone off. Especially after you consider that it was supposedly the sequal to Ocarina.

[jinzo64]

well it is the sequal to ocarina link goes of to look for navi gets mugged begin majoras mask.
the time frame was there as new gameplay machanic.
it was nice idea but didn't work all that well.
it's still a good game.
the onlt bad bit is you can't save and continue.

[abyssion1337]

Ok, I don't know where you're getting your information from, but seriously MM is considered one of the best zelda games and lots of people consider it better than OoT though it's not more popular. I have no idea what you mean by the lack of creativity or fun in the MM storyline, it was more creative than OoT and had lot's of fun extra things to do.

[jinzo64]

it's a great game mm but i still preview oot just personal prefrence

[zanemalindeal]

I've beat MM with every thing posible it was NO WHERE near as fun as OoT. And every gamer i talk to in RL that likes Zelda at all is in agreeance with me.

[jinzo64]

you talk to people in real life your lucky i've only got you guys and gals to chat with. so lonly.

[zanemalindeal]

Whats funny is i still talk to My RL friends online more than i do in RL

[jinzo64]

i have 3 rl friends dam i'm lonely.

[zanemalindeal]

Hey. I've got may be 4. It's either 2 or 4. There's four that are always there when i get to hang out, but only two i talk to on a regular basis.

[jinzo64]

i see my mate mondays and thursday at there place.
very rare that they come to my place.

[Kuni Linguist]

I have over 9000 friends... okay i dont but if i did... I want you all to be one of them ^^.

P.S. I love peach and me and her are going to have virtual babies and then ima make them join a band with me and start the mario band games and then we will have you guys over for some mario tennis and mario golf and mario soccer and mario baseball

[zanemalindeal]

Go to Japan. You can legally marry her there.

[abyssion1337]

I've beat MM with every thing posible it was NO WHERE near as fun as OoT. And every gamer i talk to in RL that likes Zelda at all is in agreeance with me.

oh well if every gamer one person has talked to says so then it must be true

[zanemalindeal]

Same with all the one's online not just the one's in RL. Jinzo and yourself are actually the first i've ever talked to that like MM

[Kuni Linguist]

my buddy ryan loves it, and i know a bunch who dont and many who do, my rl buddy ryan and josh are zelda nuts and both like it, and I am pretty sure there is no zelda cannon, due to it like restarts every time except for OoT and MM, unless Link to the past being a dream counts towards something else, cuz if so what? i never got the refernce...

I have only seen it played but I would prob like it more due to I personally like side quests and challenges, but at the same time, need to be perfect first time through and it seems to be one of the games you cant... plus I cant deal with water levels in games, zelda mario you name it... from jolly roger bay to water temple, even jabu jabu's belly. it freaks my **** out.

[Leef]

princess mononoke ftw

[Backmask]

I never liked the Legend of Zelda games.

[Kuni Linguist]

im a doctor, so i know and you should listen to me.... princess daisy.... has a penis.... in her.... its ine.... high five... =D

[jinzo64]

your not a doctor.
princess daisy has not got a penis.
that was just rude.