Zarxrax
05-03-2015, 06:34 PM
I want to say today, in all seriousness, that AMV Hell is likely coming to an end soon. I don't like to speak in absolutes, because sometimes things change, and we never know what the future holds. Many will remember of course that AMV Hell 4 was intended to be the last one, but things somehow managed to keep going after that. I want to make it clear though, that I have no intention of making any further entries into the AMV Hell series, and no intention of creating other side projects like AMV Minis, or additional contests.
The Clip Compilation Contest (http://www.amvhell.com/showthread.php?29079) will probably be the final thing that we see here, so I do strongly encourage everyone to contribute and to be a part of it. And with this contest, I really wanted to send a message to everyone who is a member of this community, and the newcomers as well. That is, AMV Hell is simply a concept, an idea, a genre. You don't need me here leading, directing, telling you what to do. You can stand on your own, and you can create great things. You can organize among yourselves and create your own projects. You can forge your own path forward.
I don't intend to hand over the reigns to anyone. AMV Hell, in the form that we know it, has run it's course. The internet is a completely different beast today than it was back in 2004 when I started all this. People have different expectations, and there is a lot more quality content out there competing for people's eyeballs. AMV Hell once filled an empty void, but that is no longer the case. There is now a lot of similar content out there for those who are looking to find it. The centralization of the internet and the oppressive nature of copyright also makes it hard to get this kind of content out there anymore. Back in the day, people would actually come to your website to look at stuff. But today, people expect everything to be consolidated into nice little walled gardens. You get your software from the app store, you get your videos from youtube, you talk to people on facebook and twitter. If it's not there, you don't have time for it. Youtube doesn't want your videos if they contain anyone else's copyrighted content. Doesn't matter if its fair use. Fair use is dead. I'm not really complaining about it or anything, but this is just the way things are.
I've not given this community the attention it needs for a long time now. And you all deserve better than that. Going forward, I would have even less time to dedicate to this... and that would simply be unacceptable. Back when I started this, I was just a loner college student with nothing but free time on my hands. But those days don't last forever. Now, I rarely ever have more than a couple of hours a week that I considered "free" time. I've always got something to do, something to be working on. A lot of things have been going on in my life--both good things and bad things, but mostly there are responsibilities and dreams that I have to place ahead of this site. I lost interest in anime years ago, and I've mostly even lost interest in editing and AMVs now as well. I'm neither the leader that you deserve, nor the one that you need right now.
I do plan to keep this website up for as long as possible, or as long as people hang around. Several months ago, I was able to move back to a much cheaper hosting plan due to continually decreasing site traffic, so financing the site is not really a problem anymore. I'll try to keep the torrents active so that all of the cool stuff that everyone has made over the years remains available.
But if you support the idea of AMV Hell--if its something important to you, it will still live on... through you.
Sir Fluffykins
05-03-2015, 06:36 PM
Aw...what a downer. Thanks for the great ride, glad to have been apart of 6.66 and 7
It's been fun. Despite all of my criticisms and nitpicks (which were arguably fun ventures in their own right), I have to say, the ride was definitely enjoyable while it lasted.
thedarkmessenger
05-03-2015, 06:45 PM
I'll probably post my detailed thoughts later, but for now I more or less copy Haar's and Fluffy's sentiment.
Akyho
05-03-2015, 06:47 PM
Not a surprise, main thing is "CHANGE OF TIMES" be it personal, technological or even social. All are part of this, Zarx is not the same person he was 10 years ago with what goes with that. The internet is not the same as it was 10 years ago and people are not the same as they were 10 years ago....**** ANIME is reeeeealy not the same as it was 10 years ago.
So much has changed and if this was Zarx's real time job pulling in the real cash then he would work harder on making this work with modern times. However it isnt and there is no point, Forums themselves have been dying for the last 10 years and more so the last 5 years. Hell I even gave up on my own still active homebase forums I modded from 2001 this year. So for Zarx to do this I totally understand.
thedarkmessenger
05-03-2015, 06:50 PM
I honestly don't see these forums lasting much longer. The only real activity nowadays is the chatbox (which is getting quieter and quieter....) and the image/video dump threads. Unless someone else basically starts doing what Zarx did in the beginning, this forum will die quickly.
milleniummaster18
05-03-2015, 06:50 PM
It was a matter of time, but it's true: it's not like it was way back then.
If it has to live through someone else, it'll do. Though I'm not sure who'd be up to the task.
I'm grateful I was able to contribute to this at the end, and for your continued patronage. Rest assured, I don't stay here exclusively for the AMV Hell format, but for the community. Some of these folks need a kick or two in the head when it comes to actually acting straight, and I'm there to give it to them.
Thanks, and turn around every once in a while, eh? Gotta remember the legends.
I honestly don't see these forums lasting much longer. The only real activity nowadays is the chatbox (which is getting quieter and quieter....) and the image/video dump threads. Unless someone else basically starts doing what Zarx did in the beginning, this forum will die quickly.
Less than half of the people that come here actually watch the videos produced to begin with. You know for a fact that the kind of people that mostly post in the off topic threads are not the same people that comment on episodes of Minis.
thedarkmessenger
05-03-2015, 06:52 PM
If it has to live through someone else, it'll do. Though I'm not sure who'd be up to the task.
*cue SSG*
oh god I hope that doesn't actually happen....
SuperLoliSentai
05-03-2015, 07:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foyAOoVagWw
Guthix
05-03-2015, 08:17 PM
meh
Shuiia
05-03-2015, 08:22 PM
Well ****, let's try to go out with a bang then people.
Akyho
05-03-2015, 08:24 PM
well ****, let's try to go out with a bang then people.
everyone have an orgy in the dog girl dog house!
Distict5-9
05-03-2015, 10:29 PM
I remember stumbling across the AMV Hell series in the smack middle of my most awkward teenage years. I enjoyed the series so much that I eventually tried to sneak in as a member of this community. Since then, I've embarrassed myself countless of times throughout the years on these forums, whether through rare, botched attempts at amateur video editing or thoughtless, spur-of-the-moment posts. It's gotten to the point where skimming through older pages of most threads has become a guaranteed cringe-fest.
Despite all that, though, I've never once regretted being a part of this community, and have made it a point to stick to the bitter end. I think (or, rather, hope) I've personally grown throughout the years while on these forums, and met some pretty swell people in the process. And the only reason that I was able to be a part for a few years of this amazing backwater group of autistic people was thanks to this video series.
Thanks for the laughs, Zarx. Time to try and give something back. Guess I should dust off the video-editing equipment again...
Backmask
05-03-2015, 11:09 PM
It's gotten to the point where skimming through older pages of most threads has become a guaranteed cringe-fest.
Don't remind me.
N.P.C.C.
05-03-2015, 11:53 PM
Reading the opening post reminded me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7aQP4dXFgs
As others have said, the writing has kinda been on the wall. That said, this was a great ride while it lasted and I am happy to have been a part of it. AMV Hell has been instrumental in honing my editing skills through the years and if nothing else, I am grateful for that. Thank you for putting up with my bull **** all this time Zarx, and everything else in between.
Edit: By the way, stop ducking me in smash!
pzykosiz
05-04-2015, 12:21 AM
It's been a good ride, and it's been fun to contribute the last few months.
It's disappointing to see our leader go, but I would hope the community sticks around.
Now lets kick this **** into overdrive and make the compilations ****ing worth it
thedarkmessenger
05-04-2015, 03:57 AM
It's been a long ride for me. I've been active on this site literally my entire adult life (and I believe 1 or 2 of my pre-adult years). Over those years, I've many faces come, and go. Some of them have even stayed for longer than a few posts! I've spoken with so many unique individuals, some of them even a little bit friendly. I've made some friends that I continue to speak with outside the forums, and I've met plenty of people I'll likely never see again. (some of which I wanted to befriend, but oh well. Friends also come and go, and life moves on regardless).
I've seen many great clips, and many not-so-great clips. I've seen many great spin-offs....and many not-so-great spin-offs. I've even tried to make a few clips myself....and largely failed. At least I learned my skills don't really lie with video editing.
Probably the biggest thing I've gained from AMV Hell over the years, is a tougher skin. I'm still not 100% perfect in that aspect, but I'm certainly not the same fragile flower I was when I first joined. It certainly wasn't an easy experience, but one that was certainly necessary one way or the other.
Overall, it's kinda sad to see the site finally starting to breathe it's last breath (imo), but it's also time. Things have certainly changed over the years, and this site has lived a longer life than so many other forums have.
I feel like this is a good time for me to finally say goodbye. Ever since the Comedy AMV contest, this site has only really seen activity in it's image/video dump threads and the chatbox. The AMV Hell ship is sinking, and I don't think anyone can save it. Maybe delay the inevitable for a bit, but I don't see it surviving much longer. I won't drop this site “cold turkey”, but I'll likely stay out of any major “discussions” *cough * ****fests *cough * and just lurk the image threads for a bit longer.
Goodbye, AMV Hell, and thank you for the necessary evil (with some fun times sprinkled in!) you've brought into my life. It wasn't always an easy journey, but I move forward with no regrets. You have all been the best “like a family, but also not even ****ing close” I've had in my life.
jinzo64
05-04-2015, 10:34 AM
It has been a great ride, But sadly all good things must come to an end.
PudPuller
05-04-2015, 03:02 PM
Well **** me sideways... It's been fun and I still think backmask is African American :D
Backmask
05-04-2015, 03:55 PM
Well **** me sideways... It's been fun and I still think backmask is African American :D
I'll always be your ******, ******.
PudPuller
05-04-2015, 05:39 PM
I'll always be your ******, ******.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MSrTnWDTdwI#t=21
Akyho
05-04-2015, 07:01 PM
My history is watched Amv Hell 3 a lot in college when I was 17 and 18. Had a free hour or two so I would go to the library and watch Youtube, in 2006 youtube was still new and not the plethora of things to watch now, I mean....still Linkin Park videos set to Naruto.....
So I often watched Amv Hell 3,1 or 2 as it was a good time killer and my love for AMV's had bloomed since 2001 with Kazaa and limewire delivering AMVs to me (weirdly most were SSG's AMVs.....) so when AMV Hell 0, 4 and 5 happened I would stumble upon them a few months after release and go "oh cool!".
Found the Iron editor challenge and also the Minis series, when AMV Hell 6 was announced I ended up checking into the forums and seeing the progress. I wasn't really talking I kept saying "I would edit a clip but all I have is Window movie maker and I would be gutted for that.", I even submitted an Idea...which Inferno used in AMV Hell 7!! THE THIEVING BASTARD! I was even in a skype call a year later with him and Haar. Inferno goes "Akyho...you watched Guyver Bioboosted armour...the new one. right?" I said "yeah....." he then said "Do you know when they have that Zoanoid rock band play?" "oh uh yeah episode 24 I think....I suggested that scene for Amv Hell 6." he went "realy?"
So for almost a week he downloaded ONE episode of Bluray Guyver for the footage because the only torrent was going super slow......
I watch Amv Hell 7 and see that clip....with monster mash. I later told him "That my idea for Amv Hell 6........" but the over all thing is....it was such a simple idea and I didn't make it, it doesn't matter. Still stole from me the bastard!
So Amv Hell 6 roughcut happened and......................yeah....I needed to talk when AMV Hell 6 rough cut FINALLY hit. Ripped it up clip by clip and about 90% of what I thought was **** was not in the AMV Hell 6.66 which made it way better as I watched everyone brain storm and make for it.
Wasnt till half way through Amv Hell Challenges I popped up and asked how to edit, Haar helped me with mostly his Copy pasta and soon I was making clips. Amv Hell 7 gets announced and I am friendly with most folks here and now able to make clips, my first clip I ever made I threw around in chatbox to be scrutinised and it was.....untill I cut it down and had a clip which had most folks going "Well its edited ok. just need get clean up the footage." follow another week and nope gave up never figured it out.... submitted the clip and was accepted I made three more all accepted (with varying degrees of impress from Zarx, with "eh...its ok" "I suppose this goes with the other one." "This is good." and "Glad this is something different.")
Which I still enjoy the fact the only way I could describe two clips was "My Grenade clip and my other grenade clip was accepted." which had folks wondering as they thought I was using the same footage and Zarx had went braindead.
So aside from ripping apart Amv Challenges and Amv Hell 7 while Haar shouted at me to watch Legend of Galactic Heroes. Was not involved in much else.....
Gleeman
05-04-2015, 07:17 PM
*checks date*
Awww, ****.
Thanks for all the good times, Zarxrax!
glory of llama
05-05-2015, 12:47 AM
That really sucks!
Despite that I don't really contribute to the videos or anything, this sire has really filled a void for me, a place that venerates irreverence but holds High and sometimes unobtainable standards on creative works. Nobody holds back, everyone seems to share more of some aspects of their personality than I imagine any of us would share with our coworkers or friends irl. Here, nothing is embarrassing except an embarrassingly made video, and I think that's beautiful.
It was awesome to rarely chat with y'all, to observe the personalities and dramas... it was fun being a wallflower here. I'm sorry I never got over my procrastination and laziness to actually make a video, despite a haar's advice and the many hours of examples. Thank you to all that DID make videos, I've laughed so much because of you.
...
Well ****. Where am I supposed to go now?
If any of you find something similar to this, take me with you!
I have an idea. Wherever zarx goes (he can't just stop thinking about amvs and all the other craziness!), we can just follow him, like crazy amv stalkers.
humnut
05-05-2015, 06:02 AM
****, I don't really know what to to say to this. Well, here it goes anyways.
I'm actually kind of sad that this is happening, though I've seen that this site has been going down for a while. I'm gonna miss it all, as this is somewhat nostalgic from my weird awkward high school days. I still remember the day when a friend of mine showed me AMV Hell 2, and it was love at first site. I think it was that video that actually got me into anime, and made me realize that there was more out there than whatever was on Toonami and Adult Swim back in the day. It was the main inspiration that got me into editing. I know I've taken this place for granted, and I childishly thought that it would go on forever, but all great things must come to an end, I guess.
Well, I guess I should give my thanks, thanks to Zarx for creating this wonderful thing. Thanks to the other members and editors on this site for making some funny ****, and for sometimes making my day. It has been a fun, crazy, wild, sometimes painful, sometimes wonderful ride. I just hope the legacy of this place will live on, to see more Hell styled videos out there, or just some funny ****. Crap, I'm terrible at ending these kind's of things, but if American History X has taught me anything.... other than racism is bad..... it is to always end on a quote.
How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard. -Carol Sobieski and Thomas Meehan
AniDisFan
05-05-2015, 02:18 PM
I am shocked!
I really hoped you'd stay around at least long enough for one more season of AMV Minis!
Well, like they say, all good things must come to an end.
That said, I believe this is a cue for us to make an effort to fill the void that will be made by the departure of AMV Hell.
Don't hesitate to post links to any AMV Hell-style videos that you believe are worth it on the Other Videos section of the AMV Hell forums!
Those of us capable of making AMV Hell-style videos (I myself, I admit, am not one of them) should at least consider working on such videos!
I also hope this will encourage other AMV Hell-style series like AMV Heck, AMV Yume and AMV Insomnia to start putting out more videos!
The point is, just because AMV Hell has to end doesn't mean the same fate has to befall other AMV Hell-style videos!
Moon Spirit
05-05-2015, 06:23 PM
Welp, I guess that's that. I'm gonna miss this place. I hoping to do one more thing for AMV Hell, but if that's the way it's going to be, so be it.
I still remember the first time I came across AMV Hell 3 during my tenure in college. Hell, I watched AMV Hell 3 and 4 during my past time after classes almost every afternoon where I have nothing to do.
Shame it had to be this way. Well, at least I learned some editing techniques that I can apply for my YouTube show.
ThatsNotMyName_studio
05-05-2015, 09:55 PM
I guess I have a couple of things to say.
First being a giant Thank You! to Zarxrax for allowing me to play in his sandbox.
For me, It all started here:
ThatsNotMyName_studio - JACK_SPARROW_AMV_MINI_UPLOAD
Name to appear in credits ThatsNotMyName_studio
Anime / Video Source Excel Saga
Song Artist / Audio Source Pirates of the Caribbean:
Curse of the Black Pearl
Song Title / Audio Sound Clip
Link to video http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/M...LOAD.mp4_links (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/M6PPTVLO/JACK_SPARROW_AMV_MINI_UPLOAD.mp4_links)
Filename of your entry JACK_SPARROW_AMV_MINI_UPLOAD PM
(http://www.amvhell.com/member.php?1-Zarxrax)
Zarxrax (http://www.amvhell.com/member.php?1-Zarxrax)
Administrator
09-24-2011, 03:15
i thought it was very funny. I'll accept it.
(http://www.amvhell.com/member.php?11678-ThatsNotMyName_studio) ThatsNotMyName_studio (http://www.amvhell.com/member.php?11678-ThatsNotMyName_studio)
Veteran Member
09-27-2011, 12:18 PM
Thank You! Zarxrax!
I'm honored to be a part in a series of AMV projects
that I have enjoyed watching so much! =)
It appeared in Minis Season 2, Episode 8
I still feel that way. This has been a great time. I will still hold some hope that it doesn't all the way end....
Unfortunately, I don't think that Zarx's decision to fold has to do so much with a decline in Hell's viewers and participation so much as the
frustration of trying to get the product published. Perhaps it is inevitable that this would come to end, but it looks like
the current trend of overzealous application of infringement claims only hastened it.
If maybe some other avenue for publishing opens up soon (unlikely, as media is consolidating now) this, or something like this, could go on.
The_War_Hog
05-06-2015, 12:45 AM
so anyone know the program used for editing I'm kind of interested?
itschickenscratch
05-06-2015, 01:40 AM
Damn this is brutal. I only just got into this community and started editing videos for it, and most people here are pretty great. Sadly I only started watching when AMV Hell 7 hit and Bonkondahed introduced me (he was not aware that I had never heard of the thing and was really surprised). I immediately fell in love with it and decided I wanted to try my hand. I made a few clips for Electric Boogaloo 2, the minis challenges, and actually ended up getting the "Zarx's Choice Award" on the comedy challenge, which surprised me. I'm really sad to see this go because it's been such a great exercise in editing for me and the community has actually been rather helpful critics, as well as nice comic relief. I would totally be one of the people to try and stay and keep stuff coming out in new threads and stuff, but since everyone seems to agree that it's dead and they don't want any part of the upkeep, it's quite disappointing and I don't know if I would be able to do it.
Antonio Black
05-06-2015, 06:16 AM
Well, Zarxrax...you and the rest of the AMV Hell regulars were the folks keeping me sane during my very, VERY hectic high school and early college years. I'm very happy to have contributed to AMV Hell 5 and Minis S2, given I'd been watching since AMV Hell 3.
To hear you say that you've outgrown anime is heartbreaking. That's like Santa Claus saying Christmas isn't all that it's cracked up to be. I mean, unlike Santa you're a real person with a life; personal and professional obligations. So changing was for the better, and begging you to stick around and keep AMV Hell afloat would just be selfish.
Through the good and bad though, Zarx...this community would have been lacking without you. And post-AMV Hell it will continue to be. I can only wish you good luck with your future endeavors.
-LostHeaven, aka Antonio Black
SilentChaz
05-06-2015, 06:50 AM
<sigh> Stop pouring your hearts out like you’re at a wake. You people make me want to regurgitate.
If you’re tired, Zarxrax, (and I know you have been (http://www.amvhell.com/showthread.php?28874-AMV-Hell-7-Out-Now!!&p=543645#post543645), long before this thread was made) then leave. Take a break. Do whatever you want, man. You’ve done your bit, so long and thanks for all the corn.
AMV Hell is not one man, nor will it end with one man’s retirement; it’s a community effort and it ends when we all stop contributing to it.
I, for one, will continue to make clips of Chinese cartoons spliced with ill-fitting music for as long as I get a dopamine hit out of it, and I'll share them exclusively with the AMV Hell "brand". So take some solace knowing that, you miserable bastards.
I recognise Lawrayliet as the new head of AMV Hell.
SuperLoliSentai
05-06-2015, 07:17 AM
I recognise Lawrayliet as the new head of AMV Hell.
This threads needs some fun. You know who is fun? MADEVIL is a fun guy, unlike the scrooge Lawrayliet. We have seen time and time again that Law is a trigger happy mod that will crash all the fun. Don't you want a leader that knows how to get down with the bros?
http://i.imgur.com/pGX9HQs.jpg
**** the Police!
I do plan to keep this website up for as long as possible, or as long as people hang around. Several months ago, I was able to move back to a much cheaper hosting plan due to continually decreasing site traffic, so financing the site is not really a problem anymore.
You guys read this part, right? The forums aren't going anywhere soon.
^Most of these people can't read, loli. Of course, as I've mentioned earlier, a lot of them also don't make or watch videos often, so I don't see why they're that upset.
if American History X has taught me anything.... other than racism is bad.....
Lies. That black guy killed the protagonist just for blowing smoke in his face after said guy was threatening some kid for no reason. Not to mention the part about that guy trying to steal a car over losing a basketball match. If anything, it gives the message that you should let black people walk all over you or else they'll shoot you or that people of different races actually are dangerous and should be avoided at all costs if you value your life.
milleniummaster18
05-06-2015, 07:59 AM
It's over, lads. Go away, shoo.
Having Mad as leader would basically be having someone like Zarx in terms of no longer giving a ****, and without the skill to back it up.
With Law, at least you can somewhat argue that he does a tad better than Mad with his videos, and he turns up as frequently as Zarx does. A better match.
pzykosiz
05-06-2015, 01:10 PM
It's over, lads. Go away, shoo.
i'd ask if you're always such a buzzkill, but that might be redundant
AMV Hell is not one man, nor will it end with one man’s retirement; it’s a community effort and it ends when we all stop contributing to it.
I, for one, will continue to make clips of Chinese cartoons spliced with ill-fitting music for as long as I get a dopamine hit out of it, and I'll share them exclusively with the AMV Hell "brand".
Right with you man, whether it's official AMVHell or not
Guthix
05-06-2015, 03:48 PM
no gods no masters
none of you spineless bottomfeeders are suited to take over.
LawRayLiet
05-06-2015, 03:59 PM
Thanks to Zarx and everything he's done. I know from times past he's been ready to end things quite a while back, he's continued this far past that point largely for us. AMV Hell won't be the same without him.
I messaged him about clarification on something though. Is this the absolute end of AMV Hell as a series for an indefinite time, or your personal retirement? He responded "This announcement is my personal withdraw."
What does that mean? Well, AMV Hell has always been owned by two men, Zarx and SSG. SSG has been the primary one to continue initiating recent AMV Hells, with Zarx in the past probably reluctantly helping inevitably for qualities sake. Basically, AMV Hell has lost its main figure head and leader, but it hasn't necessarily died as everyone has been lamenting.
Concerning AMV Hell installments, we're back to where we always were, unsure if there will be a new one, or if the last was truly the final.
What has died indefinitely, is Zarx's side projects, AMV Minis, Challenges, etc, which were what largely kept us all occupied and coming back week after week. That's the void that will need to be filled, and it can be, so long as people support it. If no one else, I'll likely make a thread soon enough gauging the interest for such a thing.
SilentChaz
05-06-2015, 04:14 PM
Thread title= The Future of AMV Hell.
The age of Law is coming.
I look forward to it.
Sir Fluffykins
05-06-2015, 04:20 PM
Reason why everyone is voting Law and not Chaz?
Backmask
05-06-2015, 04:21 PM
Just to confirm any lingering suspicions, I can confirm that I am actually abyssion1337
Really.
Trust me.
milleniummaster18
05-06-2015, 05:52 PM
Fascinating.
Guthix
05-06-2015, 06:44 PM
Reason why everyone is voting Law and not Chaz?
law has some decent amvs, a project and mod wizardry under his belt.
chaz has some decent amvs, a massive youtube kiddies sourced ego and respect from wannabee editors, because of his overblown critisism mainly based on watching amvs via freeze frames.
jinzo64
05-06-2015, 07:33 PM
I Guess Chaz thought the law and the law won. XD
As long as the forum is around I'll be around posting stuffs and making those amv thingies.
urahara1001
05-06-2015, 08:18 PM
Concerning AMV Hell installments, we're back to where we always were, unsure if there will be a new one, or if the last was truly the final.
So then we really are the brainchild that spawned Robot Chicken. The short, nonsensical clips, the transitions between them, and even the joke that at the completion of each season, we're cancelled.
As for votes on the new head, I believe AMV Hell, when it really gets going, has too much happening at once for one person to really handle it properly (and kudos to Zarx for doing so as long as he did). I'm in favor of a tribunal of senior editors, something small and odd numbered, like three or five, who would split up the efforts and serve as judges for allowing clips to pass or fail, with a simple majority deciding.
Also to Zarx, if the hosting ever does become a problem, speak up. I know I'd be willing to chip in to keep the forums going. Down the road, I plan to put a multipurpose server in at home, and could possibly even host it there (depending on the traffic).
thedarkmessenger
05-06-2015, 08:37 PM
<sigh> Stop pouring your hearts out like you’re at a wake. You people make me want to regurgitate
So, Chaz, I gotta ask...
WTF were you smoking when you made that "Improve AMV Hell forums" thread awhile back? Or did your doctor put you on some new meds?
ThatsNotMyName_studio
05-06-2015, 09:39 PM
I dunno, you said tribunal, and I thought:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51G6deYxzNL.jpg
MADEVIL
05-07-2015, 01:19 AM
Everyone shouldn't be sad, we still have SSG making crazy posts like this on Twitter
http://i.imgur.com/gtuwdo6.png
bloodlover1987
05-07-2015, 02:07 AM
well sheeeeeeiiiiiit
pzykosiz
05-07-2015, 02:09 AM
Everyone shouldn't be sad, we still have SSG making crazy posts like this on Twitter]
if 8 gets made, i'm voting for that second title
thedarkmessenger
05-07-2015, 02:59 AM
if 8 gets made, i'm voting for that second title
My vote goes to "religious tolerance"
urahara1001
05-07-2015, 03:43 AM
I dunno, you said tribunal, and I thought:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51G6deYxzNL.jpg
Well ma, I done it again.
http://i.imgur.com/YCC2uDA.jpg
Placement had nothing to do with characters presented and everything with who's avatar fit where. Jem is only in there because there didn't seem to be any solid support for a particular fourth, because there needed to be a female character in for balance, because it needed to be even more outrageous, and finally and most importantly, because the picture fit in the slot.
My vote goes to "religious tolerance"
Seconded.
ThatsNotMyName_studio
05-07-2015, 04:31 AM
Chaz Baldwin
Jem Hennesey
CRaystopher PLawmmer
and, yes
Mad Cox
Well done =)
SilentChaz
05-07-2015, 06:29 AM
@Topic – So, the future of AMV Hell, what do we do about the next instalment then?
How does a Christmas day release sound?
pzykosiz
05-07-2015, 12:04 PM
only if you think it can be put together between the August and December,
most work is probably going towards the compilation challenge at the moment
thedarkmessenger
05-07-2015, 12:37 PM
only if you think it can be put together between the August and December,
most work is probably going towards the compilation challenge at the moment
We could always save it for next year....
jinzo64
05-07-2015, 05:16 PM
AMV hell 8 for next christmas.
that would be so cool.
urahara1001
05-07-2015, 05:53 PM
I think family obligations (which you know some people will have more than others) and such would really interfere with the final compilation tasks. I'd say to at least make it a New Years release (eve or day, shouldn't really matter), give it that one extra week for the final polish. Still close enough that you could do some Christmasy themed clips if that's what you're going for. Could even do a Christmas trailer for it the week before.
Actually, thinking on it more, I kind of like the potential themes we could get going for a New Years Eve release. Could do the look back thing, maybe toss some props to Zarx for the past work, while at the same time looking ahead to the future. We could subtitle it One Hell of a Year, or something like that.
Ooh, another follow up thought: that means we could do the accompanying 0-style compilation for Valentine's Day. Could be lots of fun there.
thedarkmessenger
05-07-2015, 07:09 PM
We could subtitle it One Hell of a Year, or something like that.
I still like "religious tolerance", but this is a really good idea as well!
Ooh, another follow up thought: that means we could do the accompanying 0-style compilation for Valentine's Day. Could be lots of fun there.
ohdeargodno.exe
Shuiia
05-07-2015, 07:21 PM
So you guys are serious(probably not but I'll bite) about putting together another full installment in 7 months?
7 months?
To announce it
Get flooded with videos you'd have to go through one by one
then put together
edit here and there
and then actually make a full length video of
and then release it.
All in 7 months?
Get flooded with videos
You mean get 10 videos from the same people and maybe 3 or 4 from new guys?
LawRayLiet
05-07-2015, 07:35 PM
Yeah... I'm not sure everyone is on the same page.
SSG hasn't even announced an 8th yet, but if he did, it would likely follow the same pattern of being released shortly after its premier Q3 of whatever year.
milleniummaster18
05-07-2015, 07:40 PM
No one is being serious about this, Law. Leave them to their senseless rambling.
urahara1001
05-07-2015, 09:09 PM
You mean get 10 videos from the same people and maybe 3 or 4 from new guys?
QFT
Akyho
05-07-2015, 09:36 PM
Yeah... I'm not sure everyone is on the same page.
SSG hasn't even announced an 8th yet, but if he did, it would likely follow the same pattern of being released shortly after its premier Q3 of whatever year.
Clearly someone did not read Zarx's legally binding words. "But if you support the idea of AMV Hell--if its something important to you, it will still live on... through you." all right we own AMV Hell now or at least half.......Zarx's half.........the well used half......
urahara1001
05-07-2015, 09:46 PM
^The half that has been worn raw by years of abuse with corn?
SilentChaz
05-08-2015, 06:58 AM
1. I think family obligations and such would really interfere with the final compilation tasks.
2. Could do the look back thing, maybe toss some props to Zarx for the past work
3. we could do the accompanying 0-style compilation for Valentine's Day.
1. What the heck-nuggets are you talking about, Ura? Since when is family/work/school/life not a distraction from this silly hobby of ours?
2. I think we’ve had our fill of the whole looking back, self-congratulating thing after the AMV challenges, not to mention the intro to AMVH7. And "toss some props to Zarx for the past work"? You mean like this?:
http://i.imgur.com/hSBttWZ.jpg
Never forget.
3. ohdeargodyes.exe
SSG hasn't even announced an 8th yet
Your point?
SSG holds about as much respect and authority within this community as an armless man holds bags of shopping.
If enough of us want to do it, it'll be done, regardless of what he does or doesn't announce.
7 months?
a full length video
AMVH 0 was roughly an hour long, it was perfect.
AMVH Championship Edition was roughly 25 minutes long, it was perfect.
Why are you married to this idea of a “full length” video? (By which I assume you mean 1.5 hours long.)
Even if its 5 minutes long and only gets submissions from the same half-dozen editors- we release something for Christmas. Create content. Create interest. Keep this frivolous thing we call AMV Hell alive.
Sound good?
No?
Oh, alright. Let's just continue brooding and fellating Zarxrax…
LawRayLiet
05-08-2015, 07:42 AM
Of course anyone can start their own AMV Hell genre spin-off, but the context was set around the idea of possible titles for an offical 8th AMV Hell installment, which any spin-off made would not be, without Zarx or SSG consent.
AMV Minis is what has ended for a certain, not AMV Hell. So it would make more sense to fill the place of AMV Minis.
Shuiia
05-08-2015, 09:16 AM
AMVH 0 was roughly an hour long, it was perfect.
AMVH Championship Edition was roughly 25 minutes long, it was perfect.
Why are you married to this idea of a “full length” video? (By which I assume you mean 1.5 hours long.)
I just meant any video longer than 10 or 15 minutes. Otherwise I wouldn't exactly call it a full iteration of Hell, more like a spin-off.
Even if its 5 minutes long and only gets submissions from the same half-dozen editors- we release something for Christmas. Create content. Create interest. Keep this frivolous thing we call AMV Hell alive.
Sound good?
No?
Oh, alright. Let's just continue brooding and fellating Zarxrax…
Nah man totally cool, I only expressed doubt in wanting to do something quote unquote official by Christmas when, if people suddenly come back with the announcement of another opportunity to shove their ****ty clips in another project, you're gonna get flooded with work.
thedarkmessenger
05-08-2015, 01:03 PM
AMV Minis is what has ended for a certain, not AMV Hell.
I want to say today, in all seriousness, that AMV Hell is likely coming to an end soon.
Not minis, Hell.
I don't like to speak in absolutes, because sometimes things change, and we never know what the future holds.
so technically, it's not 100% certain like you claim.
Many will remember of course that AMV Hell 4 was intended to be the last one, but things somehow managed to keep going after that. I want to make it clear though, that I have no intention of making any further entries into the AMV Hell series, and no intention of creating other side projects like AMV Minis, or additional contests.
And this right here is where your comment is disproven completely. He didn't say minis were the only thing ending. He said EVERYTHING is ending. EVERYTHING. At least as far as his involvement is concerned. Learn to read, Law.
Another thing: why would we necessarily need Zarx or SSG's approval to make the 8th installment "official"? Zarx basically just said that he's handing the reigns over to the community, so why can't the community decide whether or not it's "official"? How would you prove it? How would you disprove it? It's not like AMV Hell is a legal trademark.
Besides, do you really expect SSG to not allow us to make an "official" 8th installment?
Also....
SSG holds about as much respect and authority within this community as an armless man holds bags of shopping.
If enough of us want to do it, it'll be done, regardless of what he does or doesn't announce.
Oh, and then there's those twitter posts. I guarantee those are every bit as official in SSG's mind as an "actual" announcement (going by whatever your standards are) would be.
Sir Fluffykins
05-08-2015, 02:15 PM
I wonder if we're still relevant, seeing as Gifs With Sound has two channels and a Anime Tuesday feature AND even makes money from Patreon, even though they repeat the same audio and jokes to death, the very things that were "killing" AMVHell around AMVH4.
Shuiia
05-08-2015, 02:19 PM
Do you really have to ask yourself that fluffy?
Sir Fluffykins
05-08-2015, 02:37 PM
Do you really have to ask yourself that fluffy?
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RldMBPepUBI/maxresdefault.jpg
Guthix
05-08-2015, 03:37 PM
ok since alot of you dont seem to accept the impendig doom, ill throw some herecy your way.
how about?.. we rape and murder the deadline thing and realease hell 8 WHEN ITS ACTUALY FINISHED? aka clips reached a certain time threshold when summed up. when i hear the word deadline i think office work not a hobby.
and the best part? no procastrination from those who want to enter cause entries can close any second and youll get a massive **** you for being late.
urahara1001
05-08-2015, 05:49 PM
I'm cool with doing away with the idea of a deadline. However, we do need to set some sort of standard to say when the project actually is done. Otherwise, we'll be sitting and quibbling about when to stop accepting entries and release the damn thing forever. How about instead, we set a running time limit? We decide who is going to judge the clips, and accept worthy entries until we have an hour's worth of footage, or some other arbitrary time limit. It's first come, first serve. If you have a good entry turned in but we're over the time, it gets first go on the next project.
jinzo64
05-08-2015, 06:01 PM
That could work.
When would submissions begin?
Also who would look after them?
Shuiia
05-08-2015, 06:47 PM
I have no idea how this works. (http://strawpoll.me/4310417)
No idea when these will cease functioning. (http://strawpoll.me/4310434)
itschickenscratch
05-08-2015, 07:35 PM
I'm in with the whole idea, so just someone put a thread together and let's do it.
thedarkmessenger
05-08-2015, 07:44 PM
Seems a little early for us to be doing Hell 8 (with Hell 7 being released pretty recently)....
but hey, if we can get some sort of "official" set-up going (judges and entry form and whatnot) and are willing to do the work now, then I guess we should have at it.
jinzo64
05-08-2015, 09:17 PM
Nice polls.
Bill Ein
05-09-2015, 08:56 AM
I'm in favor of a tribunal of senior editors, something small and odd numbered, like three or five, who would split up the efforts and serve as judges for allowing clips to pass or fail, with a simple majority deciding.
Seriosly? 3-5? In Ru.Comixes we have 10-30 judges, who can make your minis and collaborative minis, remake other minis, vote for minis and help to newbies with ideas, stories for their minis and with technical part. Judjes system - it's f*cken evolution for AMV HELL projects and I don't understand why zarxrax and ssgwnbtd not did this system for AMV HELL 5-7.
ZombieMesh
05-09-2015, 02:23 PM
I've only just got here, but I've had a great time so far. My editing skills have improved, I think, all thanks to wanting to impress a bunch of weaboos and Bronies. I can understand wanting to step down. It's been a long run. I've watched AMV hell since 4 (and then went back to watch the first 3), and have always enjoyed them.
I understand that webhosting for a site you're not going to be active in can be a bit silly, so I'm sure those who want to take up the AMV Hell reigns might be inclined to also take over to financial reigns. Seems like they least we can do.
Or we could start a donation pool that gets nowhere.
Anyway, thanks for the ride, Zarx and everyone.
Zarxrax
05-09-2015, 03:26 PM
Seriosly? 3-5? In Ru.Comixes we have 10-30 judges, who can make your minis and collaborative minis, remake other minis, vote for minis and help to newbies with ideas, stories for their minis and with technical part. Judjes system - it's f*cken evolution for AMV HELL projects and I don't understand why zarxrax and ssgwnbtd not did this system for AMV HELL 5-7.
I always felt that this takes away much of the fun and excitement from the very people who form the core of the community. Why would they care about the final project if it will have nothing that will surprise or amaze them, because they have already seen all of it?
Maybe my thinking on that was wrong, but it was just my opinion.
Kaiju
05-09-2015, 04:13 PM
I, for one, welcome our moderator overlords. Let the age of Mad reign supreme!
thedarkmessenger
05-09-2015, 04:30 PM
I, for one, welcome our moderator overlords. Let the age of Mad reign supreme!
Love how you completely glossed over Law there :P
Kaiju
05-09-2015, 04:34 PM
Love how you completely glossed over Law there :P
There's going to be a bloody revolution and civil conflict, comrade. With the leadership gone, the power vacume shall result in a bloody conflict for site control. The Madsheviks vs. Anti-Madsheviks/Law coats. The bloody revolution begins now.
thedarkmessenger
05-09-2015, 04:51 PM
There's going to be a bloody revolution and civil conflict, comrade. With the leadership gone, the power vacume shall result in a bloody conflict for site control. The Madsheviks vs. Anti-Madsheviks/Law coats. The bloody revolution begins now.
Does anyone on this site actually prefer Law over MAD? Most people view Law as being the super-strict guy while MAD is the more relaxed mod everyone likes. On top of that, MAD still gets the job done despite his more relaxed nature, meaning he's still pretty good at his mod job.
Unless Law has some sort of secret weapon, I don't think this revolution will last very long...
Akyho
05-09-2015, 05:30 PM
Ok so reading up I think this might be the better idea to form. We have just got AMV hell 7 out under Zarx's banner. Any AMV Hell 8 made by the community with out Zarx's or SSG as heads is going to have teething problems which would hamper any deadlines produced.
Followed with we do not know how filled for content 8 may get. So how about this 6 to 12 months no deadline (but with advertisement or something) this is enough time to work out teething issues and even change stuff and also look at the content submitted, then put a deadline on submissions (could be a month from then or 5 months, depends on how folks feel), one part to kick some folks butts into gear and also allow those who will edit it get prepped for the deadline date then edit the project. Test run it little and release.
In theory, I mean with AMV Hell 7 not that long ago out, Amv Hell 8 has a cushion of at least 1 year from now with the option for 2 years.
I wonder if we're still relevant, seeing as Gifs With Sound has two channels and a Anime Tuesday feature AND even makes money from Patreon, even though they repeat the same audio and jokes to death, the very things that were "killing" AMVHell around AMVH4.
Fluffy unless we were going to hijack the AMV Hell name and start making money off it (never happened to Zarx and SSG) then AMV Hell is not them even with AMV Hell Minis. They are making weekly content with a set goal in mind, AMV Hell just makes a project every so often for people's entertainment.
Relevant or not you just need to look at the reception of AMV Hell 7 (despite how I may rip at it.) to know a good few thousand people enjoy AMV Hell and still look forward to more, yes you can get AMV Hell spin offs and such. Yet each project has it own feeling due to how people gauge things. Despite 7 versions of AMV Hell there is a certain character and expectation that can be felt in AMV Hell vs other projects (not that they don't have it, it is different) so why not do AMV Hell in a close approximation to what we know it as since we have been the latest batch of people on it?
Also......Haar.....we need Inferno to chime in, cos isnt 90% of what is being discussed what Inferno has wanted AMV Hell to do since 4?
milleniummaster18
05-09-2015, 06:04 PM
Does anyone on this site actually prefer Law over MAD? Most people view Law as being the super-strict guy while MAD is the more relaxed mod everyone likes. On top of that, MAD still gets the job done despite his more relaxed nature, meaning he's still pretty good at his mod job.
Unless Law has some sort of secret weapon, I don't think this revolution will last very long...
We need a decent editor in the lead spot. Mad isn't one, so Law gets the spot.
Simple as that, lesser of two evils. Besides, Mad is all about stagnation. Obviously, some sods don't want that right now.
Unless you want Haar on the lead, I don't mind that either. Though his leading proficiency is yet to be seen.
urahara1001
05-09-2015, 07:13 PM
Seriosly? 3-5? In Ru.Comixes we have 10-30 judges, who can make your minis and collaborative minis, remake other minis, vote for minis and help to newbies with ideas, stories for their minis and with technical part. Judjes system - it's f*cken evolution for AMV HELL projects and I don't understand why zarxrax and ssgwnbtd not did this system for AMV HELL 5-7.
I partly agree with Zarx's reply, though it's more to do with the numbers. Though we've got over 20k people registered to the site, it's a tiny fraction of that who are actually active on the forums, and a further fraction of that still who actually edit. Ten to thirty judges could encompass our entire community of contributing editors. Look at the minis challenges; each entry there was a single editor, and most of those didn't get over about 15 entries. If everyone's a judge, no one will be.
Does anyone on this site actually prefer Law over MAD? Most people view Law as being the super-strict guy while MAD is the more relaxed mod everyone likes. On top of that, MAD still gets the job done despite his more relaxed nature, meaning he's still pretty good at his mod job.
Unless Law has some sort of secret weapon, I don't think this revolution will last very long...
From what I've seen of them, they both seem to be decent people. Though I really haven't had to deal much with either in a moderator capacity, so I can't say much there. I've also never really gotten a vibe off of anyone with regards to how they are as mods, so I can't even give an impression of the perception. As much as we bitch about each other on here, I think for the most part we're pretty good at self-policing, at least as far as things that would require moderator intervention.
@Akyho, since I don't want to bother with cherry picking relevant quotes from his post, I'd suggest you also bring those up over in my AMV Hell 8: Let's make it happen thread, as they're relevant to the discussion there.
Akyho
05-09-2015, 09:26 PM
Yeah I realised maybe I should post there instead, I will just copy post it over there.
Bill Ein
05-09-2015, 09:43 PM
I always felt that this takes away much of the fun and excitement from the very people who form the core of the community. Why would they care about the final project if it will have nothing that will surprise or amaze them, because they have already seen all of it?
It's true
http://photo1.ask.fm/171/976/525/-59996984-1sefnqs-9fq0cb3o8d7facf/original/feelsbadmantemplate.jpg
But...
But I like to work on a project, help improve the minis, do remaster, vote, etc. Maybe I'm just a pervert...
milleniummaster18
05-09-2015, 09:45 PM
**** off, frogposter.
Bill Ein
05-09-2015, 11:12 PM
zarxrax, urahara1001, Oh, I forgot... 10-30 judjes who CAN, but really judge only 6-12 and participated in the final vote 12-30. And they were not the same people in every project.
Guthix
05-10-2015, 03:53 AM
It's true
http://photo1.ask.fm/171/976/525/-59996984-1sefnqs-9fq0cb3o8d7facf/original/feelsbadmantemplate.jpg
But...
But I like to work on a project, help improve the minis, do remaster, vote, etc. Maybe I'm just a pervert...
i didnt know giving actual quality screening was regarded as being perverted... so i liked it not because it was higher quality, but because it was porn?
also zarxs idea kinda clashes with the show your clip to some people before submiting to gauge the humor technique, i never understood the surprize element since im pretty sure all active members see atleast half of them beforehand. [ i know i do you recycling ****s! ]
SirLoinofBeef
05-11-2015, 11:47 PM
Man, feeling kind of bummed now. I remember watching AMV Hell 3 way back in the day and laughing my ass off throughout the whole thing. Hard to believe it's been that long already.
This does, however, give me more motivation to work on that compilation video at the very least, especially since it's likely to be the last ride.
IceAngelYuki
05-12-2015, 12:00 AM
Well, this isn't what I was expecting to see when I finally decide to log on again after having no time for anything... Anyways, it was a fun, yet short ride for me. I will certainly give it my best with the final entry of mine. Let us all go out with a bang...
thedarkmessenger
05-12-2015, 04:27 AM
Just so you two are aware, some of us in the community are still trying to keep this whole thing going. Zarx hasn't outright killed AMV Hell, he's just stepping down from it.
Project DT88
05-12-2015, 08:31 AM
That is such a pity that the series is going to end. I remember being introduced to the series by my nephew after his mom married into the family. It was one of the funnest memories I had with him. Then AMV Hell 4 came out and being depressed when I learned it was suppose to be the last one. I didn't check the site again till #5's submissions ended. I loved that one and had hope the series would continue, #6.66 came out and I missed the submission deadline again. finally #7 was announced and I finally made a deadline. I was so overjoyed when my Last Christmas video was accepted.
If the series has to end again, this time for good, then you can bet I will give it my all to get one good video in with the final project. That way when I finally meet my nephew again, I can tell him that that one video we both loved so much, I helped send them out with a bang!
I hate to see it end, but hopefully we can make this last one great!
SirLoinofBeef
05-12-2015, 03:45 PM
Just so you two are aware, some of us in the community are still trying to keep this whole thing going. Zarx hasn't outright killed AMV Hell, he's just stepping down from it.
Yeah, no offense, but I don't see anyone here capable of keeping it going the same way Zarx has. Too many stupidly high egos.
urahara1001
05-12-2015, 05:36 PM
Ego is necessary to make this **** work.
thedarkmessenger
05-12-2015, 06:28 PM
Yeah, no offense, but I don't see anyone here capable of keeping it going the same way Zarx has. Too many stupidly high egos.
Ego is necessary to make this **** work.
Without the proper ego, anyone who tries to keep it going will likely become overwhelmed and give up.
And who says we need to do it exactly the way Zarx did? Times have changed, so why not Hell as well?
If you'd rather it die, that's fine. You don't have to participate. You don't even have to acknowledge Hell 8's existence (assuming it happens) if you don't want to. But those of us that want it to continue are, at the very least, going to try.
Frankly, I find it pretty pathetic how quick many of you are to dismiss the possibility of success. It might not be super-duper high, but it's still higher than 0%, no matter how much your own ego tells you otherwise.
Sir Fluffykins
05-12-2015, 06:33 PM
http://photo1.ask.fm/171/976/525/-59996984-1sefnqs-9fq0cb3o8d7facf/original/feelsbadmantemplate.jpg
http://40.media.tumblr.com/07a80aa60b7fffec57b7d17eac5c5d03/tumblr_no8e60MUzd1r4vymlo1_500.png
Vycamros
05-12-2015, 09:27 PM
I was shocked when I stopped in today to see what was new with AMV Hell. I actually gasped out loud when I saw this thread. I've never posted anything on here before but I've been loyally following since AMV Hell 4. Organizing a night to watch the premier of the latest AMV Hell has been one of the main ways I've been able to gather all my old friends together in one place to reminisce.
That being said, I see many of you discussing how to keep things going and I really hope you can. Especially with the "True Survivor" music video out and "Kung Fury" on the way for you guys to mine for content. I really hope this won't be the end of AMV Hell. Thanks to everyone for the movies and minis you've given to me and my friends so far.
IceAngelYuki
05-13-2015, 12:17 AM
Without the proper ego, anyone who tries to keep it going will likely become overwhelmed and give up.
And who says we need to do it exactly the way Zarx did? Times have changed, so why not Hell as well?
If you'd rather it die, that's fine. You don't have to participate. You don't even have to acknowledge Hell 8's existence (assuming it happens) if you don't want to. But those of us that want it to continue are, at the very least, going to try.
Frankly, I find it pretty pathetic how quick many of you are to dismiss the possibility of success. It might not be super-duper high, but it's still higher than 0%, no matter how much your own ego tells you otherwise.Don't get me wrong, I would love to see this site live on, but I seriously wonder if anybody here could do it considering how overly inflated a lot of the egos here are. I know that some ego is needed, but the thing is I feel that there some people who have too much of an ego. I just wonder if I can really make much of a difference even if I were to participate considering my skills are way below most of you here. Anyway to make a long winded statement short, I really hope that somebody can succeed in salvaging the site.
ThatsNotMyName_studio
05-13-2015, 01:03 AM
I would love to see this site live on, but I seriously wonder if anybody here could do it considering how overly inflated a lot of the egos here are.
You're trying to make 2 points at the same time whether you know it or not.
Point 1. AMV Hell.com: Zarxrax has already clearly indicated that the site itself will continue for the moment. He is retiring from the projects.
Point 2 The Projects: Although the Origins of AMV Hell are Zarxrax/SSG compilations, The AMV Hells that most people hold out as the standard
by which Hells are judged were mostly comprised of contributed content.
So in that respect, 8 could turn out just as good as any other Hell.
What will be missing from future Projects will be Zarxrax's direction, production, and sadly, the closing credits.
urahara1001
05-13-2015, 01:13 AM
Undertaking projects of the scale done here requires a massive effort. Consider how much effort it takes to make a single clip. Now consider how many clips are submitted for a Hell project - not just accepted, but the total submitted. Now consider how much effort it takes to A) Actually get people to make and submit clips, and B) Look at them all, sort and organize them, and then compile them into a final project.
One of the best ways to things that require effort done is to make it a challenge to one's ego. The bigger the ego, the harder they'll push to get it done in order to avoid taking the ego hit. True, this will inflate their ego more, but at that point it's earned. Not everyone has to have an ego for this; anyone can put clips together, and hell, we'll need lots of people doing that. It just requires an ego to run things, to believe firmly enough in your own hype that you will push and push and push until the project gets done. We'll have to be arrogant bastards to run this ****. Because only an arrogant bastard would have the gall to think they could do it, and then be damn stubborn enough to see it through.
thedarkmessenger
05-13-2015, 02:17 AM
One of the best ways to things that require effort done is to make it a challenge to one's ego. The bigger the ego, the harder they'll push to get it done in order to avoid taking the ego hit. True, this will inflate their ego more, but at that point it's earned. Not everyone has to have an ego for this; anyone can put clips together, and hell, we'll need lots of people doing that. It just requires an ego to run things, to believe firmly enough in your own hype that you will push and push and push until the project gets done. We'll have to be arrogant bastards to run this ****. Because only an arrogant bastard would have the gall to think they could do it, and then be damn stubborn enough to see it through.
This.
So much this.
More this than I can this.
I just wonder if I can really make much of a difference even if I were to participate considering my skills are way below most of you here.
Get an ego, Yuki. Just try it out.
No matter how small your chances of being any good are, they can't possibly be lower than the 0% chance you'll have from instantly giving up without a fight.
proserpine
05-13-2015, 04:01 AM
I found those first few AMV Hells extremely entertaining and I am grateful for the original creators. I forgot how I found the first and second AMV Hell but they strongly influenced which animes I watched back then. I can say my enjoyment of anime is stronger because of them.
I can't imagine the demand for this type of stuff has declined- if the trend in anime viewership is any indicator, it has risen. I'm guessing like everything else, the viewer base has fragmented. That said, I hope quality editors keep making AMVs in the future.
Arock
05-13-2015, 05:13 AM
http://i.imgur.com/f4Ma3yx.png
SirLoinofBeef
05-13-2015, 11:49 PM
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see this site live on, but I seriously wonder if anybody here could do it considering how overly inflated a lot of the egos here are. I know that some ego is needed, but the thing is I feel that there some people who have too much of an ego.
Good to see at least one person understood what I was saying.
For the most part, there are way too many people on this site who think way too highly of themselves. Zarx has been running the project known as AMV Hell for quite literally years. How many people on this site can be able to keep the series going with the same or greater dedication required while keeping their own egos in check?
Doing what people are proposing is more than just "Yeah let's do it!" You have to worry about promotions, who would be best qualified to judge entries fairly, booking airings at conventions, and more. How do you also determine what restrictions to place for entries to make sure the quality works get in, while still keeping the bar for entry as open as possible?
Hell, by the time the challenges were winding down, they had become massive circlejerks with inside jokes that pissed off one side of the viewing audience and thoroughly confused another part because they didn't understand what was going on. What regulations would be in place to make sure that doesn't happen again?
Basically, how can you convince me that the people that are trying to proceed with the proposed course of action can actually leave their own egos at the door and work together without wanting to kill each other at the end of the day?
Don't get me wrong, I'd very much want the series to continue, but I can also understand why Zarx made the decision to eventually step down. If you guys want to try to keep it going, more power to you, and I'm curious to see what comes of it. I just have a lot of reservations as to what the results will be.
urahara1001
05-14-2015, 01:46 AM
Then make sure you don't just sit back and watch as things proceed; make your voice part of the collective effort.
IceAngelYuki
05-14-2015, 03:29 AM
You guys all make good points including me needing to get an ego. I have a very small ego which makes me the worst person to lead this site. That is exactly why I am not even going to try to lead it. I will however do what I can with contributing. In fact I rather enjoy making my sometimes very horrible clips.... But to be totally honest some of those horrible attempts are to just piss people off out of spite, while others were serious attempts that turned out bad. Anyway, I am curious as to how you guys plan on doing this. I mean it as what SirLoinofBeef said, you would need to judge things fairly while keeping the over inflated egos in check. I suppose I shall see.
SirLoinofBeef
05-14-2015, 03:37 AM
Then make sure you don't just sit back and watch as things proceed; make your voice part of the collective effort.
That depends on whether the "collective effort" will even bother hearing my voice in the first place, which leads back to my original argument.
thedarkmessenger
05-14-2015, 12:00 PM
That depends on whether the "collective effort" will even bother hearing my voice in the first place, which leads back to my original argument.
I've said it in regards to Hell 8 succeeding, I've said it in regards to Yuki contributing, and I'll say it in regards to your voice:
No matter how small your chances are, they can't possibly be lower than the 0% chance you'll have from instantly giving up without a fight.
Maybe that slight chance of success isn't worth the effort to you, but I honestly don't see how you'll be losing much to begin with....I mean...you're making these posts without any issues....
SirLoinofBeef
05-14-2015, 04:04 PM
I've said it in regards to Hell 8 succeeding, I've said it in regards to Yuki contributing, and I'll say it in regards to your voice:
No matter how small your chances are, they can't possibly be lower than the 0% chance you'll have from instantly giving up without a fight.
Maybe that slight chance of success isn't worth the effort to you, but I honestly don't see how you'll be losing much to begin with....I mean...you're making these posts without any issues....
I don't feel like repeating myself, so I'm just gonna tell you to reread my above posts so that you better understand what exactly my concerns are.
p0stal_sean
05-14-2015, 11:31 PM
It does make sence im just sad i just now started trying out making amv's well Zarxrax and all of u were great inspirations and i enjoyed all of the videos definitly wont be the end of great amvs but will be much harder to sort out the good from the questionable. thanks everyone who contributed to the videos u guys rock!
thedarkmessenger
05-14-2015, 11:49 PM
I don't feel like repeating myself, so I'm just gonna tell you to reread my above posts so that you better understand what exactly my concerns are.
Your concerns are that you give us absolutely no chance whatsoever of success because of our egos. And frankly, I find that just as pathetic as every other concern or reason. There's absolutely no valid reason why we don't have even a 0.0000000000001% chance of actually releasing Hell 8. If you bothered to at least check the thread, you'd realize we have, at bare minimum, discussed the probability of needing more than just judges and submissions and "we can do it!"
And frankly, I don't believe you lack an ego. Yours is just a self-righteous ego. You claim you want to see the Hell series continue, but the only effort your willing to put forth to help is point your finger at us and cry "EEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!". You're just like a stereotypical Christian; trying to save the world by sitting on your ass and blaming the devil.
ThatsNotMyName_studio
05-22-2015, 03:29 AM
It does take a bit of ego to voice the opposition
and defend it, if only for sake of it being the "other side"
"Have you ever read Milton, Captain?"
milleniummaster18
05-22-2015, 03:56 AM
Let sleeping dogs lie.
jeremyhac
05-24-2015, 01:03 AM
Just came back after a few years of inactivity. Sad to see Zarx leave after all the great things he's done for this community and AMV Hell as a whole. It won't ever be the same without him. That being said, I am completely gun-ho on becoming active again and contributing to any future AMV Hell collaborations if there will be!
XelaisPWN
05-24-2015, 01:36 AM
I appreciate the honesty, Zarx. I'm amazed you, SSG, and all of you here have managed to keep things running for so long. Not just this site, but the community in general. But you're right, the internet is a very different place now. I'm sure it's frustrating to some people that you don't plan to hand the reigns off, but it's completely understandable and it's exactly what I would do.
The king is dead.
PrinnyCat
06-09-2015, 01:29 PM
Well, I've been gone for a while, came back today after all my university work finally finished. It's pretty sad to hear that AMV Hell won't be continuing, even though I only contributed to the last one (and the last series of minis). I wasn't here for that long of a time, but it was fun. Hopefully there may be a revival at some point (probably unlikely but still)
thedarkmessenger
06-09-2015, 02:48 PM
Well, I've been gone for a while, came back today after all my university work finally finished. It's pretty sad to hear that AMV Hell won't be continuing, even though I only contributed to the last one (and the last series of minis). I wasn't here for that long of a time, but it was fun. Hopefully there may be a revival at some point (probably unlikely but still)
technically....
....SSG hasn't quit yet.....
SleeplessPanda
06-10-2015, 07:36 AM
If "anime vines" can do so well on YouTube while seemingly avoiding copyright issues, I think AMV Hell can do the same. Transformers should've died in the 80s' but it's still sticking around. All AMV Hell needs is simple cosmetic changes, the content is fine the way it is it just needs re-packaging, anime vines are already basically that and the people that make them even borrow our ideas, sometimes straight up steal our clips. People still want these kinds of videos, and AMV Hell can provide them, assuming people here are willing to go "mainstream" to attract today's average viewer.
jinzo64
06-10-2015, 09:31 AM
How would you describe mainstream?
Who is the average viewer?
thedarkmessenger
06-10-2015, 03:47 PM
assuming people here are willing to go "mainstream" to attract today's average viewer.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!! !!
You're funny.
Guthix
06-10-2015, 07:31 PM
If "anime vines" can do so well on YouTube while seemingly avoiding copyright issues, I think AMV Hell can do the same. Transformers should've died in the 80s' but it's still sticking around. All AMV Hell needs is simple cosmetic changes, the content is fine the way it is it just needs re-packaging, anime vines are already basically that and the people that make them even borrow our ideas, sometimes straight up steal our clips. People still want these kinds of videos, and AMV Hell can provide them, assuming people here are willing to go "mainstream" to attract today's average viewer.
seriously, why the **** are you still alive, or have the balls to come here and spit bull**** again. youre a ****ing retard and the only wise sugestion you can offer is silence. amv's arent all about youtube, but youre too dense to realize it, so why dont you shove your sorry ass back, rot there for the rest of your pathetic life and dont return.
SleeplessPanda
06-10-2015, 09:38 PM
seriously, why the **** are you still alive, or have the balls to come here and spit bull**** again. youre a ****ing retard and the only wise sugestion you can offer is silence. amv's arent all about youtube, but youre too dense to realize it, so why dont you shove your sorry ass back, rot there for the rest of your pathetic life and dont return.
First off, thank you. I've been feeling kind of down lately and was hoping for some good old fashioned Guthix abuse to tickle my nostalgia bone. Second, it's pretty much all about YouTube at this point, and I did make a mistake by saying the content didn't need to be changed. We need to be more like those "anime vines", shorter videos, shorter clips, and the jokes need to be universal. Inside jokes, jokes you'd only get if you saw the anime, no good. AMV Hell is like . . Conan O'Brian, good but outdated. We need to be more like Jimmy Fallon.
Norsewind
06-10-2015, 10:26 PM
:( Feel like a little part of me just died when I read this...
I've loved AMV Hell ever since the first one, wish it would continue forever <3
milleniummaster18
06-10-2015, 11:31 PM
AMV Hell's dead until SSG decides to revive it, if ever. He'll decide then if he wants to consider Panda's stupid ass ideas.
Until then, shut the **** up and mourn. Or come up with an independent project, like the one Law's brewing.
thedarkmessenger
06-10-2015, 11:32 PM
AMV Hell is like . . Conan O'Brian, good but outdated. We need to be more like Jimmy Fallon.
This is 100% true if we want to appeal to the youtube audience.
News flash, though: we don't give a flying **** about appealing to the youtube audience, even if it means no longer being relevant. I'd rather AMV Hell die now as a classic than live on forever as a milked-out cash cow.
humnut
06-11-2015, 12:21 AM
We got cash out of this? I never saw a cent.
SleeplessPanda
06-11-2015, 12:36 AM
This is 100% true if we want to appeal to the youtube audience.
News flash, though: we don't give a flying **** about appealing to the youtube audience, even if it means no longer being relevant. I'd rather AMV Hell die now as a classic than live on forever as a milked-out cash cow.
Of course you're ****ing right, but at the very least you'd think another season of AMV Minis or one last AMV Hell movie could be squeezed out. Maybe after that THEN we could reboot as "AMV Vines Hell DX" or some random crap and challenge ourselves to be entertaining in this crazy new internet world. Those new kids will NEVER hold a candle to this crew.
Of course you're ****ing right, but at the very least you'd think another season of AMV Minis or one last AMV Hell movie could be squeezed out. Maybe after that THEN we could reboot as "AMV Vines Hell DX" or some random crap and challenge ourselves to be entertaining in this crazy new internet world. Those new kids will NEVER hold a candle to this crew.
That is either Disney evil or Konami Stupid
But yeah I doubht these kids even know how to rip a video from a DVD
god help them if they ever tried to do it with a VHS
thedarkmessenger
06-11-2015, 04:13 AM
If you agree with me so much, then why are you still insisting we appeal to the youtube kiddies using the AMV Hell brand name? If we really want to entertain them so bad, we can always do our own project. Or find someone else's to submit to.
And like mil said, SSG is really the only one that can make a new AMV Hell happen anyway.
If you agree with me so much, then why are you still insisting we appeal to the youtube kiddies using the AMV Hell brand name? If we really want to entertain them so bad, we can always do our own project. Or find someone else's to submit to.
And like mil said, SSG is really the only one that can make a new AMV Hell happen anyway.
I don't want to appeal to the new gen of YouTube crowd their a bunch of spoiled brats that want everything now while getting their ego stroked. they are one of the major reason I kept bitching about "vids must be funny" rule in the challenges
thedarkmessenger
06-11-2015, 02:28 PM
I don't want to appeal to the new gen of YouTube crowd their a bunch of spoiled brats that want everything now while getting their ego stroked
Sadly, that's less the new Youtube gen and more the new gen in general...
My generation isn't a very good one overall :\
Guthix
06-11-2015, 04:05 PM
First off, thank you. I've been feeling kind of down lately and was hoping for some good old fashioned Guthix abuse to tickle my nostalgia bone. Second, it's pretty much all about YouTube at this point, and I did make a mistake by saying the content didn't need to be changed. We need to be more like those "anime vines", shorter videos, shorter clips, and the jokes need to be universal. Inside jokes, jokes you'd only get if you saw the anime, no good. AMV Hell is like . . Conan O'Brian, good but outdated. We need to be more like Jimmy Fallon.
no. you **** off you ****ing idiot, yer basicaly inventing the bike all over because the minis is like amv vines. why arent you a dam corpse used by hobos as an urinal by now, i will never know.
all you have is ****ing tunnel vision pointed at youtube and you dont see how retarded your suggestions are. pieces of **** like you should be shot on sight.
SleeplessPanda
06-11-2015, 08:33 PM
no. you **** off you ****ing idiot, yer basicaly inventing the bike all over because the minis is like amv vines. why arent you a dam corpse used by hobos as an urinal by now, i will never know.
all you have is ****ing tunnel vision pointed at youtube and you dont see how retarded your suggestions are. pieces of **** like you should be shot on sight.
I don't see you sharing any bright ideas. Always easier to criticise other people's thoughts than share your own and risk sounding stupid I suppose. Anyway, suggesting that concentrating only on YouTube is a bad thing is sort of naive. That's where all the people are, that's most likely where our future fans would come from. If not YouTube, what, we try to bring people here and double down on the old way of doing things? Losing strategy. Finally, I get like mad hobo respect around here, I'm not a urinal. You're a urinal o.o
P.S. @ DXM : I'm totally Disney evil >:3
Guthix
06-12-2015, 03:31 AM
I don't see you sharing any bright ideas. Always easier to criticise other people's thoughts than share your own and risk sounding stupid I suppose. Anyway, suggesting that concentrating only on YouTube is a bad thing is sort of naive. That's where all the people are, that's most likely where our future fans would come from. If not YouTube, what, we try to bring people here and double down on the old way of doing things? Losing strategy. Finally, I get like mad hobo respect around here, I'm not a urinal. You're a urinal o.o
P.S. @ DXM : I'm totally Disney evil >:3
1. theres more strategies then youtube, again if you used yer ****kin brain youd know that
2. i dont give out ideas because nobody listens, heres one panda: go kill yourself
3.you lost all your respect from the judging days when you enforced lowering the bar making the minis into an unwatchable piece of ****, just like yourself.
all your pointless drible is you masturbating to your own ego because in the past you actualy did something not ****, and now you think youll ride that wave for the rest of your miserable life.
SleeplessPanda
06-12-2015, 05:16 AM
1. theres more strategies then youtube, again if you used yer ****kin brain youd know that
2. i dont give out ideas because nobody listens, heres one panda: go kill yourself
3.you lost all your respect from the judging days when you enforced lowering the bar making the minis into an unwatchable piece of ****, just like yourself.
all your pointless drible is you masturbating to your own ego because in the past you actualy did something not ****, and now you think youll ride that wave for the rest of your miserable life.
Personally I'd love to hear your ideas, so don't keep them to yourself, and let's not get back into that whole Minis debate okay? I did a damn good job at making sure entertaining content made it through, season 2 was way more funny than season 1, I took pride in my judging and if you weren't so finicky you'd realize I was a blessing upon the series. You didn't have a backstage pass on the process, you don't know how hard I worked, and I told you some of those submissions you specifically hated I fought against. If you think you could have done better you should have applied, but you didn't. You're our resident jerkwad and that's why we love you, accept your position.
milleniummaster18
06-12-2015, 05:36 AM
AMV Minis deserved to have way better judges than the useless pieces of **** it ended up having.
HellsDeathAngel
06-12-2015, 05:50 AM
I did a damn good job at making sure entertaining content made it through, season 2 was way more funny than season 1
That is mighty smug of yourself. Last I remember the community hated Season 2 of the Minis more than Season 1. Season 2 is where the complaining started to become more rampant and that has been carried on all the way through AMV Hell 7 and all of the Challenges.
SleeplessPanda
06-12-2015, 06:03 AM
AMV Minis deserved to have way better judges than the useless pieces of **** it ended up having.
AMV Minis deserved way better content than most of the garbage we judges rejected. You guys got the cream of the crop excluding a few bad clips I personally thought shouldn't have been in there but somehow made it through. I honestly hope you don't think we let awesome submissions slip through the cracks and let mediocre ones reign supreme. I'll say what I said back then, "If we waited till we had 5 minutes of exceptionally good clips to make a Minis episode out of, we'd see an episode release every 3-4 months.", but no, blame the judges, obviously there was a conspiracy where we wanted our audience to have a less than entertaining experience.
That is mighty smug of yourself. Last I remember the community hated Season 2 of the Minis more than Season 1. Season 2 is where the complaining started to become more rampant and that has been carried on all the way through AMV Hell 7 and all of the Challenges.
Personal opinion, having watched both seasons recently. Season 1 had too many inside jokes, or jokes you'd only get if you saw the anime. The clips were also poorer quality. Seaon 2, in my opinion, looked better and had better humor, but also saw the rise of non-contributing AMVH members demanding better content both entertainment wise and in quality. The submissions during that time were severely lacking in both departments, though certain members had a good track record for putting out good stuff. You'll probably see a lot of repeat user names in the credits of season 2 Minis episodes.
milleniummaster18
06-12-2015, 06:58 AM
Yeah, because the ****ty clip Haar managed to push through the so-called "judges" without any effort whatsoever clearly meant a problem with the community. God forbid pricks like you mess up with their judgements. You're as pathetic as urahara: can't take responsibility for their actions because they think they can't do anything wrong, it must be the community's fault. If you don't like how the shoes fit you, then go **** yourself and leave them to someone who can actually work with them.
You decided to put quantity over quality, and got duly grilled for it. I believe it's finally time for you to actually practice what you preach, and "accept your position" as the guy who shares responsibility over the rising negative reception of the second season of AMV Minis. The more you try to get away from it, the harder it's going to come back to bite you in the ass. Not that you'll ever get the chance to **** up things again, mind you.
SleeplessPanda
06-12-2015, 07:13 AM
Yeah, because the ****ty clip Haar managed to push through the so-called "judges" without any effort whatsoever clearly meant a problem with the community. God forbid pricks like you mess up with their judgements. You're as pathetic as urahara: can't take responsibility for their actions because they think they can't do anything wrong, it must be the community's fault. If you don't like how the shoes fit you, then go **** yourself and leave them to someone who can actually work with them.
You decided to put quantity over quality, and got duly grilled for it. I believe it's finally time for you to actually practice what you preach, and "accept your position" as the guy who shares responsibility over the rising negative reception of the second season of AMV Minis. The more you try to get away from it, the harder it's going to come back to bite you in the ass. Not that you'll ever get the chance to **** up things again, mind you.
I held myself to the standard Zarx put forth to all the judges, and he himself was head judge and had the final say on every submission. Our only sin was using "okay" clips as filler to be alongside the good clips to try and maintain a monthly release. It's really that ****ing simple.
pzykosiz
06-12-2015, 08:12 AM
everyone blames each other, and the cycle continues
SleeplessPanda
06-12-2015, 08:17 AM
**** all my previous posts and nobody mark this as a double, Panda's getting real here. Hell's been dying for a long time, ain't nobody's fault. We all tried to keep her breathing as best as we knew how, but the end is closing in and I guess she has to go gracefully. It's hard to let go because Hell kept me alive. During a time when my whole life almost entirely consisted of taking care of my grandfather, who had once been a proud and great man, Hell lifted my spirits. Having been able to eventually contribute my own submissions and judge others was a great honor and it was one of the few highlights in my sad pathetic life. This community has been my family and even when people have been negative toward me I appreciated the honesty. I've lost a lot within the last few years and what's left of my mind has been tested to the fullest, but no matter what happens I owe so much to you guys, thank you for being there and thank you for so many hours of entertainment.
SilentChaz
06-12-2015, 09:42 AM
Some of you buggers need to read my third signature point.
Minis season two (like season one) was a mixed bag, but I for one enjoyed it, and still do.
Whilst I do feel that whoever allowed this particular clip (https://youtu.be/qyQwPzTffY0?t=1m58s) to be accepted deserves a hard punch in the genitals- what’s done is done. The smart learn, and the stupid burn.
Back on topic:
AMV Hell's dead until SSG decides to revive it, if ever.
Many things would be made a whole lot clearer if this SSG individual spoke up...
If he has any intelligence or desire to keep AMV Hell running under his ...leadership... then he’ll most likely make some form of announcement during or after August, when the clip compilation contest comes to an end.
If no announcements are made, then I guess we’ll give him a year or so before concluding that the AMV Hell throne is truly vacated. Then we revive discussions for a hostile takeover once more.
As I’ve already said- AMV Hell is not one man. And that man sure as hell isn’t SSG.
In the meantime- I hope that you lot continue editing and maybe contribute to a certain other project currently in the works. Stay frosty.
thedarkmessenger
06-12-2015, 12:34 PM
**** all my previous posts and nobody mark this as a double, Panda's getting real here. Hell's been dying for a long time, ain't nobody's fault. We all tried to keep her breathing as best as we knew how, but the end is closing in and I guess she has to go gracefully. It's hard to let go because Hell kept me alive. During a time when my whole life almost entirely consisted of taking care of my grandfather, who had once been a proud and great man, Hell lifted my spirits. Having been able to eventually contribute my own submissions and judge others was a great honor and it was one of the few highlights in my sad pathetic life. This community has been my family and even when people have been negative toward me I appreciated the honesty. I've lost a lot within the last few years and what's left of my mind has been tested to the fullest, but no matter what happens I owe so much to you guys, thank you for being there and thank you for so many hours of entertainment.
...you're welcome?
Are you sure there's nowhere else you can contribute to? Hell may be a....."family" of sorts, but we're pretty much the most dysfunctional form of "family" possible.
LawRayLiet
06-12-2015, 03:49 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TtO7k84.png
Guthix
06-12-2015, 04:09 PM
If no announcements are made, then I guess we’ll give him a year or so before concluding that the AMV Hell throne is truly vacated. Then we revive discussions for a hostile takeover once more.
have fun ruling the kingdom of nothing
also panda youre wasting time, since every regular knows youre a ****.
out of all the judges youre the only one who acting like a kid, pointing a finger at a pudle of vomit and says it looks good and is better then nothing to this day.
the best contribution from you would be not being born.
SleeplessPanda
06-12-2015, 05:07 PM
have fun ruling the kingdom of nothing
also panda youre wasting time, since every regular knows youre a ****.
out of all the judges youre the only one who acting like a kid, pointing a finger at a pudle of vomit and says it looks good and is better then nothing to this day.
the best contribution from you would be not being born.
If by "****" you mean bat **** insane then you are right on the money. Also, you have a good memory, who were the others judges again besides Zarx? I think Chewi was one but got replaced after not doing his job for weeks, but that's all I remember.
Guthix
06-12-2015, 05:19 PM
If by "****" you mean bat **** insane then you are right on the money. Also, you have a good memory, who were the others judges again besides Zarx? I think Chewi was one but got replaced after not doing his job for weeks, but that's all I remember.
even chewi did a better job than you
SleeplessPanda
06-12-2015, 05:50 PM
If you had been a judge during that time Guthix you'd be singing a whole different tune.
Guthix
06-12-2015, 06:18 PM
If you had been a judge during that time Guthix you'd be singing a whole different tune.
thats your last line of defence? pretty sad man, i didnt go for judge because i didnt have the technical expierience to teach people how to improove theyr clips, you know, the stuff you used to make your own clips? but i guess you were too busy attention whoring with new daily threads.
SleeplessPanda
06-12-2015, 06:51 PM
Now that's actually sad if lack of "technical experience" was your excuse for not applying to be a judge. We have guides for that sort of thing. Zarx used judges mainly as second opinions concerning humor in submissions, though considering your severe lack of humor you wouldn't have lasted very long. The truth is that you didn't want the responsibility.
P.S. - Can this be our theme song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-OgQPHaACM
thedarkmessenger
06-12-2015, 07:10 PM
The truth is Guthix knew he wouldn't be the best person for the job, and decided not to waste everyone's time by trying it anyway.
Quite frankly, I respect him for that. He's still an asshole, but I respect him for that.
SleeplessPanda
06-12-2015, 07:19 PM
Nah he was just lazy, and grumpy.
Guthix
06-12-2015, 07:29 PM
Nah he was just lazy, and grumpy.
my lazyness doesnt erase the fact that youre trying to derail the topic from your failures.
its one thing to see a task and deduce that you neither have the skill and neither want to bother with it. i come here for entertainment and nothing else
its another to take on a task and **** it up
but you **** up colosaly, on top of that deny of ****ing up after licking your wounds after the last ass raping. admit it panda you dont belong here, that why you initialy fled hell. now that **** is ending youre sudenly "contributing" when theres no one who wants to see you or your ideas.
SleeplessPanda
06-12-2015, 07:43 PM
I left Hell after season 2 for multiple reasons, none being shame. I got bored waiting to judge again, I'd lost interest in making my own submissions, I developed an online gaming addiction and what was left of my time I spent on family. Going back to the topic of season 2, tell me specifically how I failed as a judge, because I'm not sure you even have an answer. I'd love to know what I supposedly did so different compared to Zarx and the other judges. Finally, I only came back to be social, I have no plans to judge again or submit new submissions. I contributed plenty back in the day, a lot more than you did Guthix.
LawRayLiet
06-12-2015, 08:39 PM
Alright, lets leave it at that. No more hammering each other.
Shuiia
06-12-2015, 08:46 PM
and maybe contribute to a certain other project currently in the works. Stay frosty.
Dude, if you want people contributing to your project just say the word bruv.
http://i.imgur.com/TtO7k84.png
Whoever is in charge of that account has a pretty solid taste in music.
thedarkmessenger
06-12-2015, 09:18 PM
Fairly certain SSG is the one in charge of AMV Hell's twitter account.
jinzo64
06-12-2015, 09:45 PM
Chaz have you started you're new project?
milleniummaster18
06-13-2015, 01:24 AM
People can't be projects, silly.
Guthix
06-13-2015, 03:20 AM
Dude, if you want people contributing to your project just say the word bruv.
Whoever is in charge of that account has a pretty solid taste in music.
despite his wild mind he makes good amvs
Cheeseless
06-29-2015, 09:44 PM
Is there any other community doing this? As in, is there another place I can go to for my AMV compilation fix?
thedarkmessenger
06-30-2015, 12:21 AM
Is there any other community doing this? As in, is there another place I can go to for my AMV compilation fix?
you mean under a different name from AMV Hell?
Yes. Lots. Just google it or something, and you should be able to find one.
pzykosiz
06-30-2015, 12:21 AM
we're not closed down yet, some of the senior members are gonna be starting a new project.
there's also the possibility that SSG is planning Hell 8, but no-one really knows what going on there.
but if you really can't wait, just look on youtube for the millions of knockoff versions
ThatsNotMyName_studio
06-30-2015, 04:23 AM
Is there any other community doing this? As in, is there another place I can go to for my AMV compilation fix?
And don't forget that there is the Clip Compilation Contest coming out yet.
glory of llama
06-30-2015, 04:38 PM
we're not closed down yet, some of the senior members are gonna be starting a new project...
Our senior members? You mean... Our senpai?
tanis_lionheart
07-04-2015, 09:37 AM
I don't check the front page for a few months and now...sadness.
Mikey_the_author
07-04-2015, 06:14 PM
I'm not the most active person on the boards, hell It's been a few months atleast since I last logged in. I will be sad to see this go. I understand the demands on ones life and all, but I will be sad. AMV Hell has been one of the things I look forward to most every year or so. Thanks to these compilations I have gotten into dozens of shows and been horrified, mollified, and offended in just about every way possible. It's been fun
Reacted1991
07-05-2015, 12:27 AM
man am i just in time or to late i just got my start while you're at your end my video is finished i just need to activate my video editor account to get rid of the water maker other than that it's perfect everyone here keep an eye out for Legacy Of Pain Butt Omen an amv hell style video dedicated to the legacy of kain series
lee22923
07-10-2015, 11:20 PM
Sorry to see this go, its been a great ride and the knockoffs don't do it justice (give credit where credit is due). This series made life in the Army a little better when deployed, friends would send these to me while deployed. Can't express the thanks to you guys at amv hell for keeping it going after 4 (the last one). If a laugh was worth a million bucks I'd be rich. Thanks Zarxrax and SSG and the rest of the video creators!!!
zimbabwe
07-17-2015, 03:54 AM
I only joined moments ago specifically so I could say thank you to everyone who ever contributed to these projects. I've been watching since I stumbled across amv hell 2 in 2006 by some eclipse of the planets sending me to the right links, and it shined brilliantly on my youthful self. I watched and watched and these have never gotten old to me, even now as I work my graveyard shift all alone, amv hell 3 blares in the background and puts a smile on my face. I'm nowhere near articulate enough to express the feelings I've felt for this ridiculous series over the years, I can only compare the closure to this magnificence to the same thing I felt when Tom gave us his final goodbye. It breaks my heart, but the smiles I've shared with my friends and the happiness this has brought to so many will always live on. So thank you all, and stay gold.
kain7854
07-25-2015, 10:00 PM
Well It has been a great run, and ya the fair use thing is so dead. I once made a vid of my guild downing a raid boss in wow many yrs ago and about 2 months about the audio was taken down. Even with full credit to the band in the vid and the info and my page not set to make money. I can deff see/feel the hart ache of something you did out of love and fun getting muted. Its been a fun run and I continue to spread the word of amvhell.
DualShooter
07-30-2015, 12:37 PM
Whelp, it's been a good run. AMV Hell is actually what got me into anime to begin with, I wanted to contribute and picked up Azumanga Daioh based on the volume of content I'd seen others draw from it with the intention of adding to that pile. Predictably, I ended up getting sucked into it and began ravenously consuming shows. I did eventually submit a few clips (which Zarxrax unceremoniously binned :sweatdrop:), but I found I enjoyed watching anime more that editing and began racking up hundreds of shows and sinking thousands of hours into it. So, thanks AMV Hell and all who worked on it, for being a gateway anime of the best kind.
Professor Paper
08-18-2015, 10:21 PM
To be honest, it's times like this if we really enjoy this crazy wild ride, to be the ones to keep this roller coaster going.
And to be honest I've discovered a metric f-ton of anime because of this. Let's keep the lights on, and thanks Zarxrax, for setting this off.
Ginger126
08-22-2015, 12:33 AM
Hey guys. I know I really haven't been on here a whole lot in the last few years but since this seems as good as time as any to be all sappy I'm really going to miss the AMV Hell series. I kind of just stumbled upon it in college and some friends had heard of it so i gave it a chance and I truly fell in love with the style. Even though some of you (or all of you, whichever) talked them down or saying there was a lot of crap with a few hidden gems (if any) I thoroughly enjoyed all of them (except AMV Hell 6, we must never speak of the horrors). I enjoyed the community for all its good and bad and I truly can say I had fun whenever I was on this website. I know I never really created any content whatsoever, it's just not my cup of tea, I love watching all of the crazy and new things everyone created here. Most of the anime I watched was first sparked by the clips in the Hells and I never would have watched my favorite anime (The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya) if it had not been for the abundance of clips involving the show. When I logged back on in the first time in a long time and saw this post I was taken back. I knew deep down that eventually this would die out but I always pictured this site and the promises of the new content to be here for whenever my heart drew me back. Whether realizing it or not (or if anyone would ever actually care) this place has been a sanctuary for me whenever I may have wanted to escape reality, have a good laugh or just bull**** with everyone in the chatbox. So from the bottom of my heart, I want to thank Zarxrax and everyone else for all their hard (or even anyone's half-assed) work, entertainment and conversation. It has meant the world to me. Thank you.
ssgwnbtd
08-22-2015, 06:57 PM
But then again. Maybe it's not over.
thedarkmessenger
08-22-2015, 07:02 PM
*shudders*
LawRayLiet
08-22-2015, 09:44 PM
*shudders*
That is the appropriate reaction.
http://i.imgur.com/0QjtZkr.png
thedarkmessenger
08-22-2015, 09:52 PM
That is the appropriate reaction.
http://i.imgur.com/0QjtZkr.png
*shuddering intensifies*
Gleeman
08-22-2015, 11:46 PM
That is the appropriate reaction.
http://i.imgur.com/0QjtZkr.png
http://cms.peatix.com/images/blog/KrakenDog.jpg
AnimeVision360
10-04-2015, 03:46 AM
Zarxrax,
I did read, and I know you're very hesitant about it, but the best possible thing for AMV Hell would be to pass the torch on to the next generation. Think about it, even after you shut the whole thing down, how long do you think the the silence will last? There will be younger Anime fans out there who will find this content. After that, they will be inspired by it, and would likely want to contribute to it, or at least try to make their own. Do you honestly expect them to respect your wishes, and not make AMV Hell 8, 9, 10, etc.? I certainly wouldn't. They will probably most likely make a few dozen knock-off AMV Hell YouTube accounts, and make four or five versions of AMV Hell 8. So what would be better: bastardized chaos or controlled order?
thedarkmessenger
10-04-2015, 04:01 AM
Zarxrax,
I did read, and I know you're very hesitant about it, but the best possible thing for AMV Hell would be to pass the torch on to the next generation. Think about it, even after you shut the whole thing down, how long do you think the the silence will last? There will be younger Anime fans out there who will find this content. After that, they will be inspired by it, and would likely want to contribute to it, or at least try to make their own. Do you honestly expect them to respect your wishes, and not make AMV Hell 8, 9, 10, etc.? I certainly wouldn't. They will probably most likely make a few dozen knock-off AMV Hell YouTube accounts, and make four or five versions of AMV Hell 8. So what would be better: bastardized chaos or controlled order?
SSG is still around, and still talking about doing Hell 8. Zarx isn't the only "official" owner of the AMV Hell name.
Besides, there will probably be people trying to steal the name regardless. Not like they can be sued over it, and I guarantee there's at least one person out there asshole enough to do it just for the sake of doing it.
AnimeVision360
10-04-2015, 11:14 PM
SSG is still around, and still talking about doing Hell 8. Zarx isn't the only "official" owner of the AMV Hell name.
Besides, there will probably be people trying to steal the name regardless. Not like they can be sued over it, and I guarantee there's at least one person out there asshole enough to do it just for the sake of doing it.
Yep.
SaiyanAlchemist2
01-14-2016, 07:59 PM
I'm sorry for bumping this thread, but I wanted to express my own thanks for the creators of, and all who worked on, the AMV Hell series.
I found AMV Hell back in 2004 during my sophomore year of high school, and couldn't stop watching it. When The Motion Picture came out, my friends and I spent every day of the week watching it during lunch, using my new ipod video and a headphone splitter I found at a Radio Shack. This went on for about 2 years. We enjoyed it so much that we were able to recite it from memory, just by seeing the clips.
Every time I hear Country Roads come on my playlists, I can clearly picture the credits sequence from AMV Hell 3, which is still an amazing sequence and an example of editing to me, to this day.
I wanted to offer my thanks for helping me become close to my friends when I was a shy loner sitting in the lunch room.
So, thank you. All of you.
ssgwnbtd
04-05-2016, 12:04 AM
But then again. Maybe it's not over.
But then again. Maybe it's not over.
ThatsNotMyName_studio
04-05-2016, 01:56 AM
But then again. Maybe it's not over.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56054393/XX%20AMV%20MINI%20UPLOADS%20XX/AMV%20Hell%20forum/Next%20Generation/Its%20A%20Prat.png
Every time I hear Country Roads come on my playlists, I can clearly picture the credits sequence from AMV Hell 3, which is still an amazing sequence and an example of editing to me, to this day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGzsD0o68ZU
Yes, yes it is. Nice work on that SSG, btw.
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