[NodMan]

So I know there has been stupid things all over the world since way before the Internet was a fevered dream back in the 1950s. However lately I have seen a surgence of these kind of videos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noxQzoWEiQM

Meow, the peeps watching these believe these are all signs of the END TIMEs. However if they took 5 seconds to stop praying they'd notice that all their "Signs" are just man made. Here is my quote from that video by the way...



Lawl. All you ladies getting all bent about "End of days" crap is funny as hell. Here is something for you Bible thumpers; the Earth has been here for a far longer time than even the ancestors of the Viruses you should be vaccinating your children against. It will be here far longer than any of the pages from people telling stories they heard from a dude that was told by another dude that he heard at a dinner table that you all flock around like moths to a flame. I get you all want to believe in some higher power and life after death, however neither one of those things exist. So when you die, please bury yourselves so that the flora and fauna you dinned on your entire lives may regain some of that energy through the circle of life as you decay.

Also those crazy "Trumpet" sounds from the sky are nothing but construction/trains/or processing plants. In order: in various stages of construction especially using concrete front-end loaders will do whats calling "Scalping" where they take their bucket and scrape it along the concrete to smooth and polish it. The process is loud as all hell and produces a very metallic trumpet sound. More often than not when a train car's brakes fail they will lock up and hold the wheels on that car stationary. When this happens the locomotives hauling the train cars will just continue to drag that car around as the locomotives have such extreme power they barely notice a difference in the exertion needed to pull a train car that has it's breaks locked up outta the 50-100 other cars they are already pulling. A lot of times in processing plants especially those waste to energy plants they need a day for "De-staining" where they use harsh chemicals and some very powerful pressurized machines to clean their mechanical components. This process is long, loud, and very hazardous. So during this time there is very little workers around and more often than not all the vents and openings in such plants are opened, allowing all manner of noises to escape.

So go on believing that "THE END IS NEAR", when all your end of days signs and prophesies are just humans trying to master this tiny ball of rock and water.


Meow I know people all want to believe in some higher power or something better, however when they ignore scientific fact over the cause of something it just makes me furious. So with this happening more and more I had to make a Topic about it, it just peeves me.

So enjoy.

[Sir Fluffykins]

Reminds me when I watched this dudes take on 911. The videos were in 3 parts. First two were so...well thought out and well done, with video analysis, 3D models, side by side video comparisons from the different TV stations.

Then it got to the 3rd video. "as you can see this is all proof that the American government faked 911 with the help of secret Israeli anti-gravity weapons that hit the towers from space". I'm not even kidding, there was no link between what he'd shown previously to what this guy believed it proved. I thought it was a joke/troll but this guys channel was full of tin-foil hat nonsense.

[Veran]

Reminds me when I watched this dudes take on 911. The videos were in 3 parts. First two were so...well thought out and well done, with video analysis, 3D models, side by side video comparisons from the different TV stations.

... thought you were talking about the emergency services hotline there.


Then it got to the 3rd video. "as you can see this is all proof that the American government faked 911 with the help of secret Israeli anti-gravity weapons that hit the towers from space". I'm not even kidding, there was no link between what he'd shown previously to what this guy believed it proved. I thought it was a joke/troll but this guys channel was full of tin-foil hat nonsense.

What was the name of that show? "Zeitgeist," yes. I watched that, because my neighbor thought there was something to it. But it was total utter nonsense, the whole lot of it. Item by item, all of it was tar.

But you know: idiots tend to breed faster. And since there's nothing killing them off en masse, like Napoleonic wars or easily preventable disease, they prevail.

[NodMan]

My main beef with people is they do not understand how loud construction and industrial cleaning can get. I'm talking into the 200 decibel range. When we (when I did construction) did "Concrete Polishing" with front-end loads we had to wear ear plugs and ear muffs. It was pushing 190 decibels of pure high pitched glory. That **** would carry for miles too. I remember a buddy asking if I heard this crazy screeching earlier, I asked what time and it was the time I was doing this concrete polishing. He lived 5 miles away from it.

I dunno I just think it's plain retarded when people instantly go towards Religious or Aliens means for the source of something. Rather than spending two minutes to rationally think it out. Then they get the sheep that believe them behind them and it's over for convincing anyone meow...



Reminds me when I watched this dudes take on 911. The videos were in 3 parts. First two were so...well thought out and well done, with video analysis, 3D models, side by side video comparisons from the different TV stations.

Then it got to the 3rd video. "as you can see this is all proof that the American government faked 911 with the help of secret Israeli anti-gravity weapons that hit the towers from space". I'm not even kidding, there was no link between what he'd shown previously to what this guy believed it proved. I thought it was a joke/troll but this guys channel was full of tin-foil hat nonsense.

... thought you were talking about the emergency services hotline there.



What was the name of that show? "Zeitgeist," yes. I watched that, because my neighbor thought there was something to it. But it was total utter nonsense, the whole lot of it. Item by item, all of it was tar.

But you know: idiots tend to breed faster. And since there's nothing killing them off en masse, like Napoleonic wars or easily preventable disease, they prevail.

I can tell you right meow that what hit the Pentagon 9/11/2001 was not a plane. It was a cruise missile. You can clearly see the destruction in the Pentagon itself and it punched clean wholes through 5 whole buildings worth of reinforced concrete and steel. That and when planes crash they leave wreckage from their wings, as you can clearly see in the twin tower videos the wings make a huge impact because they are the most reinforced parts of a plane next to the engines. However all these signs are missing on the Pentagon, as well as there is a few frames of video that shows a very small craft (good cruise missile size) hitting the building.

Also I had an uncle that was literally in the office of the Pentagon where that whole is 10 minutes before it hit. He was talking to his superior (he was a Command Sergeant Major of the Artillery forces at the time). When he was in the underground tram system it hit, killing his General and his run-around boy (what I call em). So yah, close call on my families part. He wont talk about it much though, even though during Desert Storm he was my superior lol...

This is an old video but you can see what I am talking about in mere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvNTDzpRkG0

[Veran]

http://pentagon.spacelist.org/images/arielshot-after.jpg

Puny cruise missile has widespread fire effect, or Pentagon is highly flammable.

List of US cruise missiles has:

Tomahawk, with 450 KG explosives, which I think would have spread the building more around.
AGM 86 has 900 KG, ... that wing is still standing. Most of it.
Regulus has 1400 KG. Feh.
AGM 129 has a nuke. I still see there's something left of the Pentagon at all. And Washington.

That explosive charge needed to be replaced with Napalm for that effect, and make a nice spread on landing.

What you see on the photo is high-velocity impact crater from something with very limited explosive power. And velocity, for that matter.

[NodMan]

http://pentagon.spacelist.org/images/arielshot-after.jpg

Puny cruise missile has widespread fire effect, or Pentagon is highly flammable.

List of US cruise missiles has:

Tomahawk, with 450 KG explosives, which I think would have spread the building more around.
AGM 86 has 900 KG, ... that wing is still standing. Most of it.
Regulus has 1400 KG. Feh.
AGM 129 has a nuke. I still see there's something left of the Pentagon at all. And Washington.

That explosive charge needed to be replaced with Napalm for that effect, and make a nice spread on landing.

What you see on the photo is high-velocity impact crater from something with very limited explosive power. And velocity, for that matter.

Yes and you do realize that warheads on cruise missiles can be changed a huge variety. Warheads and payloads are two different explosive devices. A warhead is basically like the primer for a bullet however they set off whatever the payload is. Some warheads have very directional blasts like a cone-shaped charge. So yah, easily could punch wholes in that section of the Pentagon because it wasn't finished being upgraded with an anti-ballistic coating. Also look at the ground and the Pentagon, there is no signs of wings or engines... But hey that's just me.

[Guthix]

>thread about stupidity
>people complain about **** that doesnt involve them, neither being construction architects, neither explosive experts.

intelect comes from perspective. in todays society, not knowing something is looked down on, ridiculed. while brain power is a limited recource, sometime unreliable and information doesnt always have any utility in life, thus not worth obtaining. people who feel that their inteligence is underwhelming, fill the void with rumors, assumptions and beliefs. and that void, no matter how educated you are, never goes away. there will always be someone who knows something, that you dont and you either face the discomfort or go the easy way out.

stupidity isnt growing, its just the number of people and nihilism, or cynism.... assholism?

[thedarkmessenger]

stupidity isnt growing, its just the number of people and nihilism, or cynism.... assholism?
combination of all three?

[Veran]

Yes and you do realize that warheads on cruise missiles can be changed a huge variety. Warheads and payloads are two different explosive devices. A warhead is basically like the primer for a bullet however they set off whatever the payload is. Some warheads have very directional blasts like a cone-shaped charge. So yah, easily could punch wholes in that section of the Pentagon because it wasn't finished being upgraded with an anti-ballistic coating. Also look at the ground and the Pentagon, there is no signs of wings or engines... But hey that's just me.

The lack of airplane is easily explained.

The weirdly extensive fire damage I can't see from some tiny little cruise missile, even if it had been filled with gasoline. The "hit by a large aircraft" theory would explain it better. To me at least. (Plus, comically, the zeitgeist film featured some incriminating imprints on the walls there, not seen from this angle.)

This video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ8uvQk1H9I

Look at it disappear without a trace. This sort of thing happens. Now, add fire, and the low-melting point aircraft parts disappear.


intelect comes from perspective. in todays society, not knowing something is looked down on, ridiculed. while brain power is a limited recource, sometime unreliable and information doesnt always have any utility in life, thus not worth obtaining. people who feel that their inteligence is underwhelming, fill the void with rumors, assumptions and beliefs. and that void, no matter how educated you are, never goes away. there will always be someone who knows something, that you dont and you either face the discomfort or go the easy way out.

Ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect? Basic idea: the people who know the least are surest. Google for you own horror and amusement.

[thedarkmessenger]

Ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect? Basic idea: the people who know the least are surest. Google for you own horror and amusement.

"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are ****sure while the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell

[NodMan]

The lack of airplane is easily explained.

The weirdly extensive fire damage I can't see from some tiny little cruise missile, even if it had been filled with gasoline. The "hit by a large aircraft" theory would explain it better. To me at least. (Plus, comically, the zeitgeist film featured some incriminating imprints on the walls there, not seen from this angle.)

This video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ8uvQk1H9I

Look at it disappear without a trace. This sort of thing happens. Now, add fire, and the low-melting point aircraft parts disappear.

Yes but an F-4 Phantom is maybe a 1/4 the size of a 757 on top of that the F-4 is going about 2,100mph vs 510mph at the supposed speed of the 757 that hit Pentagon. Again wings and engines regardless of the crash do not disappear.

[Veran]

From the description (this is googlable information) "The aircraft was accelerated on a 600m (2000ft) long two-rail rocket sled until a constant velocity of 215 m/sec (480mph) was reached."

And nothing really disappeared. Conspiracy theories like this rely on people not bothering to do the research:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/pentagon/pentagon-engine1.jpg

http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/06/54cfc894a4b55_-_911-flight77-debris.jpg

Next you'll tell me that JFK was killed by a Saurian Grey agent hiding on the grassy knoll, in some elaborate plot involving crop circles and the chupacabra?

[NodMan]

I think we are kinda getting off subject but hey, at least it's an active Thread. There are dozens of those "OMG IT'S THE RAPTURE! ONE OF THE SEVEN HORNS OF THE RAPTURE IS SOUNDING!" and boy they are full of Bible educated scientists.


From the description (this is googlable information) "The aircraft was accelerated on a 600m (2000ft) long two-rail rocket sled until a constant velocity of 215 m/sec (480mph) was reached."

And nothing really disappeared. Conspiracy theories like this rely on people not bothering to do the research:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/pentagon/pentagon-engine1.jpg

http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/06/54cfc894a4b55_-_911-flight77-debris.jpg

Next you'll tell me that JFK was killed by a Saurian Grey agent hiding on the grassy knoll, in some elaborate plot involving crop circles and the chupacabra?

My speeds were off from what I thought I remembered, sorry.

It may have not been a cruise missile however it surely wasn't a 757... No skid damage on the lawn, no wing or engine damage to the building, and the thing that is just dumb founding is the clean wholes through the 5 building layers.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OfrA9riE4Gw/hqdefault.jpg
http://911review.org/brad.com/fireball-at-pent.jpg
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11-attacks-investigation-and-related-materials/Image/9-11-pentagon-exterior-3/image_large
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Aerial_view_of_the_Pentagon_during_rescue_operatio ns_post-September_11_attack.JPEG

Look at every other time a plane has struck a building. The wings and engines do most of the damage the outer structure. Sure the fuselage is carried a significant way into the building however (especially true with jet engines) because of their design they can go clear through a building like a couple did on the Trade Centers.

Plane? Not a 757 in size...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUNngyhZQrk

[Veran]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13051581_10154655351095400_1701402264524066356_n.j pg?oh=f2e093d80f9a3bcb43524169e70a6995&oe=57D98EEB

I'm not a bible educated scientist.

[Gleeman]

FACT: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.

Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."

The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide—not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

http://www.scienceof911.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Bart_pentagon_approach.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/PentWingHole-full.jpg

Map of bodies/body parts identified and recovered:
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/victims/docs/pentagon_victims.jpg
Not sure how they fit 64 bodies into a missile...

Plenty of photos/eyewitness testimony/military first responders online where aircraft parts/engines/landing gear/etc were found inside the Pentagon.

Plenty of things to think conspiracy about 9/11, but the attackers not using aircraft isn't one of them. Now who really funded/recruited/planned/let happen/etc. on the other hand...

I was on duty in the Gulf when 9/11 happened, didn't know anyone at the Pentagon, but I have plenty of family in NYC. Two of my cousins were Police on Long Island at the time and responded to the tower collapse/cleanup; they are both 100% certain the towers were hit by aircraft alone.

[NodMan]

Back on subject, I found another one of those "Bible Scientist's" videos lol...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLV9KfObk68

The other is just for laughs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T-jrDd0f1M


FACT: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.

Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."

The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide—not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

http://www.scienceof911.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Bart_pentagon_approach.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/PentWingHole-full.jpg

Map of bodies/body parts identified and recovered:
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/victims/docs/pentagon_victims.jpg
Not sure how they fit 64 bodies into a missile...

Plenty of photos/eyewitness testimony/military first responders online where aircraft parts/engines/landing gear/etc were found inside the Pentagon.

Plenty of things to think conspiracy about 9/11, but the attackers not using aircraft isn't one of them. Now who really funded/recruited/planned/let happen/etc. on the other hand...

I was on duty in the Gulf when 9/11 happened, didn't know anyone at the Pentagon, but I have plenty of family in NYC. Two of my cousins were Police on Long Island at the time and responded to the tower collapse/cleanup; they are both 100% certain the towers were hit by aircraft alone.

I'm not saying I still don't believe there was something other than a 757 hitting the Pentagon but I'll give it a rest. You have your opinion on the matter, I have mine. Lastly...


Not sure how they fit 64 bodies into a missile...

Think hard about Amurica...

[Stevie]

Oh good, another "end of the world" theory.

It's actually gonna be kind of funny when one of these cracked-out theories turns out to be true. Humanity's gonna be like "Oh ****, God pranked us good".

[Sir Fluffykins]

In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns

That explains what that line of damage along the roof was.

[NodMan]

Oh good, another "end of the world" theory.

It's actually gonna be kind of funny when one of these cracked-out theories turns out to be true. Humanity's gonna be like "Oh ****, God pranked us good".

https://dublinsmickdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/d93ca-chemtrail_pentagram_zpsbe0e4816.jpg?w=640
http://covers.booktopia.com.au/big/9781851689057/megacatastrophes-.jpg

They'll all funny. The Earth, has even survived (life goes on wise) a Gamma Ray Burst... So yah, Humanity may go the way of the Dodo but it wont be because of the lack of women or watermelons.