Zarxrax
08-05-2011, 06:54 PM
A full episode of just Dragon Ball clips.
You know you wanna see it.
We are also accepting clips for another "bad stuff" episode. Basically, the content can be a bit more adult in nature than normal, with bad language, gratuitous violence, and maybe some minor nudity. No porn/hentai though. Oh yea, and the episode is already half-full before I've even announced it, so submit your clips right away!
Now, back to your Dragon balls:
http://youtu.be/WVJUqBEVvZ8
Credits
Malev
Portal 2 sounds
Zarxrax
J. Geils Band - Freeze Frame
N.P.C.C.
Sonic R - Super Sonic Racing
jeremyhac
Futurama sound clip
SleeplessPanda (C.T.)
Queen - I Want to Break Free
jeremyhac
Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive
jeremyhac
Seether - Needles
Zarxrax
Batman Opening theme
Malev
Portal 2 sounds
LawRayLiet
Third Eye Blind - Never Let You Go
jjlb84
Llamas with hats 4
Calvin3
Taio Cruz - Dynamite
Zarxrax
The Simpsons sound clip
LawRayLiet
Bubba Sparxxx featuring Ying Yang Twins - Ms. New Booty
HalOfBorg
Jimmy Buffett - Were You Born An Asshole
Zarxrax
Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me sound clip
N.P.C.C.
Jem and The Holograms - She's Got The Power
synbad2
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic - sound clip
Calvin3
Vast - Free
Chewi105 & Zarxrax
CB4 - Im Black Y'all
Jeremyhac
Minnie Ripperton - Loving You
Malev
Portal 2 sounds
EvilestDeath
08-05-2011, 06:56 PM
That "bad stuff" episode will set my project back a few submissions...lame. :(
Outlaw
08-05-2011, 07:10 PM
This was good up until there was ANOTHER evil carl skit thing. God DAMN! Stop it. It's old. Jesus.
EvilestDeath
08-05-2011, 07:17 PM
This was good up until there was ANOTHER evil carl skit thing. God DAMN! Stop it. It's old. Jesus.
Called it!
Malev
08-05-2011, 07:36 PM
There was a part 4 to the Portal 2 running gag, but Zaxrax shot it down, saying he needed a stronger ending than just the gag again (even though he ended this special on part 3)
http://mir.cr/0NQ8ILEC
NodMan
08-05-2011, 07:40 PM
I dunno I thought the "Blow Out Your Candles" was funny, with a destroyed city.
P.S. Sentry Guns, In Space: The Motion Picture.
jinzo64
08-05-2011, 07:45 PM
i liked it even though it contained clips from gt.
EvilestDeath
08-05-2011, 07:57 PM
There was a part 4 to the Portal 2 running gag, but Zaxrax shot it down, saying he needed a stronger ending than just the gag again (even though he ended this special on part 3)
http://mir.cr/0NQ8ILEC
There's also a part 0 where you got it from.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/portal-2-space-personality-core
Clearly the space thing is hitting off the Space Personality Core meme from Portal 2 but I can't help but bring up that it was used here to great effect in My Little Pony: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKmZF...layer_embedded
Still I liked the DBZ version and had not seen that exact pairing anywhere before. That MLP one was part of a much larger AMV hell type pony video and was split up into many parts, that one I sent was just one of the larger clips used. Then again there are all the other clips for other shows on the know your meme page.
Koolfox
08-05-2011, 08:37 PM
There was a part 4 to the Portal 2 running gag, but Zaxrax shot it down, saying he needed a stronger ending than just the gag again (even though he ended this special on part 3)
http://mir.cr/0NQ8ILEC
Malev, you better upload the whole thing to YouTube as a saparate video, this is genius! :praise:
Guthix
08-05-2011, 08:42 PM
There's also a part 0 where you got it from.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/portal-2-space-personality-core
Clearly the space thing is hitting off the Space Personality Core meme from Portal 2 but I can't help but bring up that it was used here to great effect in My Little Pony: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKmZF...layer_embedded
Still I liked the DBZ version and had not seen that exact pairing anywhere before. That MLP one was part of a much larger AMV hell type pony video and was split up into many parts, that one I sent was just one of the larger clips used. Then again there are all the other clips for other shows on the know your meme page.
no one gives a dam about ponys
Chewi105
08-05-2011, 08:45 PM
is it just me, or did zarx have like 4 clips in this episode? xD
jinzo64
08-05-2011, 09:03 PM
Malev
Portal 2 sounds
Zarxrax
J. Geils Band - Freeze Frame
N.P.C.C.
Sonic R - Super Sonic Racing
jeremyhac
Futurama sound clip
SleeplessPanda (C.T.)
Queen - I Want to Break Free
jeremyhac
Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive
jeremyhac
Seether - Needles
Zarxrax
Batman Opening theme
Malev
Portal 2 sounds
LawRayLiet
Third Eye Blind - Never Let You Go
jjlb84
Llamas with hats 4
Calvin3
Taio Cruz - Dynamite
Zarxrax
The Simpsons sound clip
LawRayLiet
Bubba Sparxxx featuring Ying Yang Twins - Ms. New Booty
HalOfBorg
Jimmy Buffett - Were You Born An Asshole
Zarxrax
Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me sound clip
N.P.C.C.
Jem and The Holograms - She's Got The Power
synbad2
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic - sound clip
Calvin3
Vast - Free
Chewi105 & Zarxrax
CB4 - Im Black Y'all
Jeremyhac
Minnie Ripperton - Loving You
Malev
Portal 2 sounds
you mean those 4 in the blue but Jeremyhac a few aswell.
zarx also did one with chewi.
RBRat3
08-05-2011, 09:58 PM
Ooookay I'm gonna need alittle help on understanding this one
Basically, the content can be a bit more adult in nature than normal, with bad language, gratuitous violence, and maybe some minor nudity. No porn/hentai though
1. "more adult nature than normal".... Whats normal?
2. Its somewhat hard to find anime that shows minor nudity that isnt considered H-Content or where they didnt take it the next step. Only 5 examples come to mind elfen lied, eva, berserk, to-love-ru, akira and im not even too sure on those. Theres a very thin line on whats considered hentai and what isnt and in most cases if it shows full frontal nudity it's usually slapped with R-18.
Sooo what im seeing out of this is your requesting something that hardly exists?
or I can see it as you dont want sex scenes? but I do need to know which one it is XD
Zuiichi
08-05-2011, 10:14 PM
There are plenty of shows that show tits, tenchi, maburaho, macademi wasshoi all have a bit of nudity in it
LOLWTFBBQ
08-05-2011, 10:14 PM
Ooookay I'm gonna need alittle help on understanding this one
1. "more adult nature than normal".... Whats normal?
2. Its somewhat hard to find anime that shows minor nudity that isnt considered H-Content or where they didnt take it the next step. Only 5 examples come to mind elfen lied, eva, berserk, to-love-ru, akira and im not even too sure on those. Theres a very thin line on whats considered hentai and what isnt and in most cases if it shows full frontal nudity it's usually slapped with R-18.
Sooo what im seeing out of this is your requesting something that hardly exists?
or I can see it as you dont want sex scenes? but I do need to know which one it is XD
dude who cares, at least for this episode we dont have to care about censoring language that everyone gets so pissy about :bzz:
FinalMasterM
08-05-2011, 10:26 PM
Called it!
I saw it coming as well. Running gags are great, however. I enjoyed another Llama with Hats skit, it fit well with the footage.
Calvin3
08-05-2011, 11:32 PM
That was such an Awesome episode of Dragonball clips, lots of funny clips
Kajimura
08-05-2011, 11:37 PM
Ah, personal favorite was the kill all humans futurama clip
jeremyhac
08-05-2011, 11:41 PM
Ah, personal favorite was the kill all humans futurama clip
Lol win!!!
Veran
08-06-2011, 12:08 AM
This wasn't as good as the others.
Good bits - but not many enough.
N.P.C.C.
08-06-2011, 12:34 AM
Epic episode as expected. It seems like you guys had a lot of fun with these.
Malev
Portal 2 sounds
Bordered between slight chuckling and annoyance TBH.
Zarxrax
J. Geils Band - Freeze Frame
Kickass
N.P.C.C.
Sonic R - Super Sonic Racing
[Insert boasting here] >_>
jeremyhac
Futurama sound clip
Personal favorite
SleeplessPanda (C.T.)
Queen - I Want to Break Free
Laughed pretty hard but i would have liked it better if he was never "broke free" though the twitching made up for it.
jeremyhac
Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive
An ok clip that fit pretty well.
jeremyhac
Seether - Needles
Liked the use of effects here and it's one of those situations where it seemed to help the clip and not drag it down imo.
Zarxrax
Batman Opening theme
Why didn't i see that coming?
Malev
Portal 2 sounds
I like the editing here but again, back to my last opinion on it.
LawRayLiet
Third Eye Blind - Never Let You Go
Pretty funny ignoring what really happens afterwords.
jjlb84
Llamas with hats 4
These clips are starting to...grow on me as the last one used this season was a vast improvement on the first and this is my favorite so far.
Calvin3
Taio Cruz - Dynamite
Ok, fun little clip.
Zarxrax
The Simpsons sound clip
Ha! Good one.
LawRayLiet
Bubba Sparxxx featuring Ying Yang Twins - Ms. New Booty
Epic clip!
HalOfBorg
Jimmy Buffett - Were You Born An Asshole
Amazing.
Zarxrax
Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me sound clip
Saw it coming and still laughed pretty hard.
N.P.C.C.
Jem and The Holograms - She's Got The Power
[Insert more boasting here] <_<
synbad2
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic - sound clip
O_o Huh?
Calvin3
Vast - Free
Lol
Chewi105 & Zarxrax
CB4 - Im Black Y'all
Lol'd again
Jeremyhac
Minnie Ripperton - Loving You
WTF....Then lol'd
Malev
Portal 2 sounds
Pretty much same.
MADEVIL
08-06-2011, 12:50 AM
yay! something good for a friday
TheInfamousKanti
08-06-2011, 12:59 AM
not as good as the other amv mini x's but its ok. way too many portal 2 for my taste.
RBRat3
08-06-2011, 01:02 AM
dude who cares, at least for this episode we dont have to care about censoring language that everyone gets so pissy about :bzz:
I care because its all kinda vague, Its the difference between acceptance and denial. Im not talking about language nor do I care about it.
Zetsubou-Chan
08-06-2011, 01:21 AM
I'll try again for the bad stuff
HalOfBorg
08-06-2011, 01:42 AM
I'm happy to have contributed and I enjoyed it a lot. Got a lot of good chuckles.
Antonio Black
08-06-2011, 01:48 AM
Hey, quick question.
So the VERY next episode is the second "Bad Stuff" installment?
Last time I checked my non-DB clip was submitted and accepted. So where does it fit in?
SarcotarascusN
08-06-2011, 02:46 AM
Meh.
This was also my reaction after seeing the Azumanga Daioh episode. I'm just not a fan of this kind of thing.
The fact that 85 percent of these scenes had already been used (often very well) also made this feel a bit stale. Witness: Piccolo in the Car, Everyone Dances, Ginyu Force Dance, Popo's race being made fun of, and of course, as always, the battles. Those damn DBZ battles...
I have to admit that the Austin Powers crossover was pretty damn good (Austin Powers and AMV Hell are a good match, in general).
ThePsychoGamer
08-06-2011, 02:54 AM
IMO this was the worst of the AMV hell series.
jeremyhac
08-06-2011, 03:17 AM
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z333/jeremy352/tumblr_l6v4wsHnay1qd7pj1o1_400.gif
LawRayLiet
08-06-2011, 04:26 AM
I'll give my opinion on a few:
Portal 2 sounds
(The beginning seemed to drag on. If the beginning would have been shortened this would have been much better.)
J. Geils Band - Freeze Frame
(This one fit very well and the editing is very fluent. I really like it.)
Futurama sound clip
(Although the editing is not all that great. The idea fits so well. This clip is very good.)
Queen - I Want to Break Free
(Could've went to the beat a bit better. But still good.)
Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive
(The audio jump threw the video off a bit IMO. But I still like this one, because it matches Gohan's training episodes so well.)
Seether - Needles
(the video effects seem unnecessary...)
Batman Opening theme
(This one caught me off guard. So simple, yet funny.)
Portal 2 sounds
(This ones a bit better than the previous space clip. Mainly because there's fun fillers to keep it interesting during the drag.)
Llamas with hats 4
(Obviously I love the llama clips, this is hilarious.)
Taio Cruz - Dynamite
(That dance scene could have been put to anything. I acknowledge the earth blowing up at the end. But I don't really see how adding "Dynamite" to this clip is clever or funny.)[Sorry, if that sounds harsh.]
The Simpsons sound clip
(For the people who have seen Dragon Ball Z and that particular Simpsons episode. This doesn't fit all that well, because Captain Ginyu isn't making Goku hit himself. Although, it's probably more funny to those without prior knowledge.)
Jimmy Buffett - Were You Born An Asshole
(meh It's okay. I dislike the audio jump and I didn't really find the joke all that funny. But I can appreciate the editing.)
Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me sound clip
(Once again very simple but works so well together. This is great.)
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic - sound clip
(Other than listening to Fluttershy say "YAY!", I don't really like this clip. I just don't find it to be clever or funny.[Maybe just not my sense of humor.]
Vast - Free
(I don't know why, but I loved this clip. It fits Majin Buu very well.)
CB4 - Im Black Y'all
(I found that my appreciation for this clip grew after I realized it's a joke aimed at the 4Kids version that aired.)[Which I previously wasn't aware of.]
Minnie Ripperton - Loving You
(I see what you did there. XD This is great.)
Portal 2 sounds
(This one's the best of the space bunch IMO. No drag, good editing and Vegeta's Dad makes it pretty funny.)
Overall, this episode's another good edition to the series.
TheDmon
08-06-2011, 06:21 AM
didnt like
Shibbidah
08-06-2011, 06:40 AM
It was almost painful to watch:sweatdrop: (But then, I HATE DBZ...)
LawRayLiet
08-06-2011, 08:42 AM
2. Its somewhat hard to find anime that shows minor nudity that isnt considered H-Content or where they didnt take it the next step.
You think there's not a lot of minor nudity in anime?
What have you been watching?
Here's a present for you: Gift4RBR (http://www.sankakucomplex.com/search/?gquery=Uncensored&commit=Submit+Query)
(Just scroll on down that list)
Sir Fluffykins
08-06-2011, 08:48 AM
*EDIT* Thee's minor nudity is almost all anime, even the 'kids'' shows that are usually edited for USA releases. Most have some sort of beach/bath episode (including Digimon and Pokemon -lol) and Damn Highschool of the Dead may as well have had porn the way those girls dressed and acted XD
@LawRay WTF - I clicked the first link and how is that stuff considered anime, and not H, full on nudity with big breated girls suckling each other 0_0
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Didn't really like it, except the Carl part which fit prefectly, the freeze frame one and Mini me part.
Space joke was okay but it didn't really hit the right notes with me (wait, that's from Portal 2!? Where?) and "You're an asshole" didn't really work with the clips.
tanis_lionheart
08-06-2011, 09:04 AM
Yay, more stuff!
Evo-Sennin
08-06-2011, 10:21 AM
Ooookay I'm gonna need alittle help on understanding this one
1. "more adult nature than normal".... Whats normal?
2. Its somewhat hard to find anime that shows minor nudity that isnt considered H-Content or where they didnt take it the next step. Only 5 examples come to mind elfen lied, eva, berserk, to-love-ru, akira and im not even too sure on those. Theres a very thin line on whats considered hentai and what isnt and in most cases if it shows full frontal nudity it's usually slapped with R-18.
Sooo what im seeing out of this is your requesting something that hardly exists?
or I can see it as you dont want sex scenes? but I do need to know which one it is XD
Well there are always the 2 seasons of Seikon no Qwaser also.
RBRat3
08-06-2011, 05:28 PM
You think there's not a lot of minor nudity in anime?
What have you been watching?
Here's a present for you: Gift4RBR (http://www.sankakucomplex.com/search/?gquery=Uncensored&commit=Submit+Query)
(Just scroll on down that list)
I missing the context on how minor nudity is being used here, or at least the way your using it. Minor nudity as the way I see it is "just" fully exposed breasts not fan service showing some over/under boob. Now full nudity as the way I see it Is butt ass naked running around screaming "Im a pretty lady".
Guthix
08-06-2011, 06:57 PM
eh... watching it gave me a feeling ive seen it before.
LawRayLiet
08-06-2011, 08:10 PM
I missing the context on how minor nudity is being used here, or at least the way your using it. Minor nudity as the way I see it is "just" fully exposed breasts not fan service showing some over/under boob. Now full nudity as the way I see it Is butt ass naked running around screaming "Im a pretty lady".
Did you even look at the link?
Below were dozens of anime with over/under boob, and fully exposed breast and butts.
If you didn't bother to look through them here are some links to specific pics.
pic 1 (http://img1.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-ero-x/softenni-blu-ray-1-008.jpg)
pic 2 (http://img2.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-ero-x/ore-tachi-ni-tsubasa-wa-nai-blu-ray-1-007.png)(The image on the bottom is the broadcast version)
pic 3 (http://img2.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/ero-misc-iv/ladies-vs-butlers-ero-action-1.jpg)
pic 4 (http://img3.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-ero-vi/shinkoihime_loli_bathing.jpg)
pic 5 (http://img2.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/ero-misc-ii/juuden-chan-yuri-raep-dvd-017.jpg)
These are some of the hundreds of images of scenes with full, uncensored breast, and butts that were in the link I included.
If you're wanting to show some up close and personal shots of certain private areas. I'm fairly positive that will not be allowed.
I would imagine minor nudity would be allowed as long as the context isn't sexually explicit.
If you need greater detail you should message Zarx.
But he'll likely tell you a lot of those scenes will have to be decided on a case by case basis.
emi-chan
08-06-2011, 08:22 PM
hee hee db, you so crazy
RBRat3
08-06-2011, 08:25 PM
Did you even look at the link?
Below were dozens of anime with over/under boob, and fully exposed breast and butts.
If you didn't bother to look through them here are some links to specific pics.
pic 1 (http://img1.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-ero-x/softenni-blu-ray-1-008.jpg)
pic 2 (http://img2.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-ero-x/ore-tachi-ni-tsubasa-wa-nai-blu-ray-1-007.png)(The image on the bottom is the broadcast version)
pic 3 (http://img2.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/ero-misc-iv/ladies-vs-butlers-ero-action-1.jpg)
pic 4 (http://img3.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-ero-vi/shinkoihime_loli_bathing.jpg)
pic 5 (http://img2.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/ero-misc-ii/juuden-chan-yuri-raep-dvd-017.jpg)
These are some of the hundreds of images of scenes with full, uncensored breast, and butts that were in the link I included.
If you're wanting to show some up close and personal shots of certain private areas. I'm fairly positive that will not be allowed.
I would imagine minor nudity would be allowed as long as the context isn't sexually explicit.
If you need greater detail you should message Zarx.
But he'll likely tell you a lot of those scenes will have to be decided on a case by case basis.
The link you gave me was a search query to a bunch of results containing fanservice or maybe I missed something being blind from playing with it too much. But the fact of the matter still stands that if its uncensored material exposing the full breast area in a sexual context scene it gets an R-18 rateing which it can fall under being hentai and thats the fine line im speaking about since its classification is based on viewer expressed opinions.
Or we can play the whole thing like the MPAA does... How much boob and twat time is too much?
I would imagine minor nudity would be allowed as long as the context isn't sexually explicit.
And thats whats scarce, It limits the material you can openly use for an AMV where the clip most likely has already been used.
LawRayLiet
08-06-2011, 08:42 PM
The link you gave me was a search query to a bunch of results containing fanservice or maybe I missed something being blind from playing with it too much. But the fact of the matter still stands that if its uncensored material exposing the full breast area in a sexual context scene it gets an R-18 rateing which it can fall under being hentai and thats the fine line im speaking about.
I never said that a sexual context scene would be allowed.
I would imagine minor nudity would be allowed as long as the context isn't sexually explicit.
If you need greater detail you should message Zarx.
But he'll likely tell you a lot of those scenes will have to be decided on a case by case basis.
And just to be clear all of the links that were givin to you were not hentai!
hentai = pornography
Just because there are nude scenes doesn't make it pornagraphy.
Even if there is sexual content as long as there isn't explicit sexual activity it's not hentai!
(When I say this, I'm referring to the fact that it's not classified as hentai in any anime database.)
And just if we're not clear yet.
Just because it's not a hentai the scene may be deemed to sexual for the episode.(as per, case by case basis)
The pictures I just linked if you looked at them, while containing nudity, were not in a sexual context.
In fact most of links in the search result I gave you weren't either.
And none of them were hentai to the best of my knowedge.
You said:
2. Its somewhat hard to find anime that shows minor nudity that isnt considered H-Content or where they didnt take it the next step.
I was just trying to be helpful and show you there are plenty of anime which show minor nudity and are not hentai.
Whether you can use a certain scene would have to be decided when Zarx views it.
RBRat3
08-06-2011, 08:56 PM
Woops was to slow on re-editing my post.
hentai = pornography
That is false theres more to it.
thats the fine line im speaking about since its classification is based on viewer expressed opinions.
Now if we were talking about an erotic genre thats a whole different story but Zarxrax said "Hentai".
This is all fun since theres no actual classification on what is hentai or pornography. The whole subject is smeared all over the place and is up to a rating committee or author to make this determination and its not always fair. Now the pornography part I can understand, But the the hentai part is a BIG umbrella over various media platforms and genres.
What Im trying to get at is something solid to go by here XD
Can I show boobs as long as theres no ****in/showing the lower half, or do I play the whole thing like the MPAA does... How much boob and twat time is too much before its no longer considered minor?
I was just trying to be helpful and show you there are plenty of anime which show minor nudity and are not
I appreciate it :)
LawRayLiet
08-06-2011, 09:35 PM
That is false.
Now if we were talking about an erotic genre thats a whole different story but Zarxrax said "Hentai".
This is all fun since theres no actual classification on what is hentai or pornography, the whole subject is smeared all over the place and is up to a rating committee or author to make this determination and its not always fair.
This will be my last reply on this subject.
1. No matter what you may believe as far as anime goes.
Hentai = Pornagrahy
Ero = Not Hentai or Pornography - But still may not be allowed based on the context.
According to any anime database.
This is not up for debate.
No porn/hentai though.
Notice he doesn't say porn or hentai. But he says porn/hentai.
2. Ultimately, Zarx and Zarx alone, will make the call as to whether it should be accepted or not based on the content.
I believe it will be fair.
3. Based on the previous Bad Stuff episode, if you want your clip to be accepted I would avoid tying to push things to their limit.
Here's what you should do.
Take a scene that has minor nudity which has no sexual context.(There is a surplus of scenes to use in many anime)
Edit it in a way that makes it seem sexual.
Great laughs will ensue.
^ This scenario will likely achieve best results and will almost certainly be accepted.
The line only seems thin if you get to close to it.
I've gotten a few accepted already.
So I believe I understand where the line is.
RBRat3
08-06-2011, 09:47 PM
That was a dick maneuver or more or less pushing your opinion on someone else. XD
This will be my last reply on this subject.
1. No matter what you may believe as far as anime goes.
Hentai = Pornagrahy
Ero = Not hentai or Pornography - But still may not be allowed based on the context.
According to any anime database.
This is not up for debate.
Since when do databases get to classify what is/isnt hentai? That subject is always up for debate and always has been. You yourself are really in no position to make that determination alone nor is any database entry done by a single user on a $9 month server that is far outside of a production/rating authority.
Heres an excerpt from wiki
"The term hentai is not often applied to pornography in Japan. Instead, terms such as 18-kin (18禁, literally "18-prohibited")"
Now thats not fully correct just by it's self it's just to invalidate "hentai=Pornography" you still have the western-ized definition to go by and much more to it.
Best way to describe the word "Hentai" is like taking the word **** and making a complete literal definition of it XD
You can read the wiki on hentai but Id take it with a grain of salt because the word is so god damn universal.
Like a said Hentai is an "umbrella" (used as a subject) not a genre, not a rating, not "always" porn, but more or less a class/category hell you could push it as far as being a sub-genre but I dont know how that would work being on top of the parent genre. What goes under this umbrella/class/category is always up for debate because its controlled by the masses.
But all bull**** aside your last post still doesnt answer what im looking for... I will not use your recommendation because its still too vauge, I need something solid but I do thank you.
LawRayLiet
08-06-2011, 10:12 PM
That was a dick maneuver or more or less pushing your opinion on someone else. XD
Since when do databases get to classify what is/isnt hentai? That subject is always up for debate and always has been. You yourself are really in no position to make that determination alone nor is any database entry done by a single user on a $9 month server that is far outside of a production/rating authority.
Heres an excerpt from wiki
"The term hentai is not often applied to pornography in Japan. Instead, terms such as 18-kin (18禁, literally "18-prohibited")" now thats not fully correct just by it's self you still have the western-ized definition to go by.
Well I guess I'll play it by ear but I do thank you.
You're actually gonna quote Wikipedia... because everyone knows how accurate of a source that is.
I believe AnimeNewsNetwork.com to be a much more reliable and official source than Wikipedia.
And anything that's a hentai there is labeled pornographic.
I'm not talking about how people use the word hentai.
But as how it is classified by the studios and official new sources.
There are Studios which produce hentai and then there are studios which produce anime.
By the way I never even implied to explain the full encompass of the word hentai. In fact over and over I said according to anime databases.
And in this case how it's categorized at the official Anime News Network.
I'm not trying to be a "dick". I just really believe that all studio productions of anime either fall in the Hentai or Anime category.
Would you care to give me an example that you believe can't be categorized properly in one these areas?
SarcotarascusN
08-06-2011, 11:55 PM
One can also get hentai in if they don't show the explicit sex, of course. There's not much of it outside of the "Bad" AMV Hells, but there's a little in 2 (the Horse neighing and a thinly-disguised shot of Asuka "gratifying" Shinji in someone's Evangelion fantasy), one clip in 4 ("Passionate Kisses"), and that "Alignment You!" anime that someone used in the last season (which I'd never heard of) turned out to be an erotic title.
RBRat3
08-06-2011, 11:58 PM
You're actually gonna quote Wikipedia... because everyone knows how accurate of a source that is.
I believe AnimeNewsNetwork.com to be a much more reliable and official source than Wikipedia.
And anything that's a hentai there is labeled pornographic.
I'm not talking about how people use the word hentai.
But as how it is classified by the studios and official new sources.
There are Studios which produce hentai and then there are studios which produce anime.
By the way I never even implied to explain the full encompass of the word hentai. In fact over and over I said according to anime databases.
And in this case how it's categorized at the official Anime News Network.
I'm not trying to be a "dick". I just really believe that all studio productions of anime either fall in the Hentai or Anime category.
Would you care to give me an example that you believe can't be categorized properly in one these areas?
Yes I did quote wiki as it is informal just like databases, is it accurate? No to an extent yes. Wiki is controlled by the masses just like the word usage of hentai. Now I would trust information thats reviewed and manipulated amongst the masses on how a word's understood as a whole opposed to a single user entry on a database, or a dictionary (If documented).
Would you care to give me an example that you believe can't be categorized properly in one these areas?
It cant because hentai is an umbrella that falls "under" anime or "over" but isnt separate from anime as an entirely different form of animation or source of origin.
Anime will always be the home for a (theoretical) hierarchy tree because we're using it as a main subject which then can call genres/categories/ratings etc... into it. Where hentai falls inside of this hierarchy I do not know because its umbrella is huge and crosses genres also. If you took the time to build this tree I think hentai would be subbed down far far into that tree. Pesonally I would leave it out of the tree and just note it as classification under the title and not as a singular category, On a database this idea is utilized as tagging.
Now heres the fun what if we fliped roles? If hentai was a main subject then we could put under that hierarchy tree literature/anime/games/manga/magazines/etc... which then can drop down into genres/categories/ratings/platform etc.. within in the hierarchy. Yay fun fun.
The reason this works this way is because their part of each other.
If your an animation studio then your an animation studio.
If you an animation studio that resides in japan then your an anime studio.
If your an anime studio that makes animation productions for an audience that likes erotic material then your still an anime studio and the production is still anime.
But all my spouting is basically saying you cant have
Anime
+Anime
+Hentai
It makes things confusing.
Its has to go either
Hentai
+Anime
+Manga
+Movies
+Bloodlovers armpit
Or
Anime
+Genre
_+Adventure
_+Action
__+Hentai
___+Bloodlovers armpit
+Rating
Even then the last ones crappy better off with tagging a class XD
With my Idea
Anime
+Series
_+Genre
+Movies
_+Genre
__+Adventure
__+Action
___+Bloodlovers armpit
____-Bloodlovers armpit the saga [Hentai]
____+Bloodlovers armpit too much lube
_____-Episode 1
_____-Episode 2
LawRayLiet
08-07-2011, 12:58 AM
It cant because hentai is an umbrella that falls "under" anime or "over" but isnt separate from anime as an entirely different form of animation or source of origin.
I wasn't trying to imply that hentai is not anime.
When I say hentai studio, I'm referring to a studio devoted to producing only pornographic anime.
I'm obviously well aware that even a studio which produces only pornographic anime is still an animation studio.
I guess what I'm getting at is this.
The word "Hentai" is equivalent to the word "Pervert" in English.(keep this in mind)
True, there is, what can be considered, "hentai scenes" in regular non-pornographic anime.
But unless the main themes of the show are the pornographic or perverted scenes and are created solely for the purpose of sexual arousal.
Then that anime is not a hentai anime.
As I believe it's understood, when referring to pornographic anime, it's commonly referred to as a hentai. Are you not aware of this?
And I think if you went around calling non-pornographic animes "hentai", a lot of people would have something to say to you.
Like I said, name one single anime that you would call a hentai anime, that isn't pornographic.
If you can't then my statement is true:
Hentai = Pornographic
RBRat3
08-07-2011, 01:17 AM
when referring to pornographic anime, it's commonly referred to as a hentai. Are you not aware of this?
Well I use to think of it that way but its not the case anymore. R-18 pretty much takes hentai's place as being specifically pornographic thus the umbrella is no longer tarnished by westernized thinking.
Like I said, name one single anime that you would call a hentai anime, that isn't pornographic.
That with this..
solely for the purpose of sexual arousal
I cant really say because the way I see it is the point of exposing body parts is purely for arousal unless its for a medical scene, other than that its uneeded... but without that second bit Id say "queens blade", "Yosuga no Sora"
On another note I thought AMV Minis were suppose to be/contain "more adult in nature than normal, with bad language, gratuitous violence, and maybe some minor nudity" and the "Bad Stuff" episodes were suppose to take after the 0's. Cause it sounds like to me the minis are trying to be PG and the bad stuff episodes being PG-13.
LawRayLiet
08-07-2011, 02:20 AM
Well I use to think of it that way but its not the case anymore. R-18 pretty much takes hentai's place as being specifically pornographic thus the umbrella is no longer tarnished by westernized thinking.
Well I see where the problem was then.
You were arguing it from how it is commonly used in japan.
Where as I was arguing it from the standpoint of how it is commonly used in America.
We're both right in our own way.
I guess it isn't even commonly referred to as hentai japan.(as per wiki) XD
So arguing what is considered hentai from the standpoint of Japan is really pointless.
Although in order to say that the way Americans/Foreigners use the word hentai is incorrect, all you would have to do is find a non-pornographic anime that is rated 18-kin.
Until then, while I won't say it's not possible.
I see no reason to believe that there is much difference between what the Japanese label 18-kin and what we Americans refer to as hentai.
(And it's harder to find the Japanese rating to Queens Blade then one would think.)
EDIT:
On another note I thought AMV Minis were suppose to be/contain "more adult in nature than normal, with bad language, gratuitous violence, and maybe some minor nudity" and the "Bad Stuff" episodes were suppose to take after the 0's. Cause it sounds like to me the minis are trying to be PG and the bad stuff episodes being PG-13.
There were no restrictions on 0 or /0.
Ehh think of "Bad Stuff" more as R.(maybe a bit less when it come to nudity)
BTW You must really want to put a bunch of naked girls in this next episode. XD
RBRat3
08-07-2011, 06:19 AM
BTW You must really want to put a bunch of naked girls in this next episode. XD
Sure who doesnt :P... I just thought I'd bring it up cause if you drop the "Same Clip/Song" bull**** and watch the very first hell and compare/contrast it to a current mini it falls far from being "adult" in nature and I use the word adult loosely, cant think of a better term for describing it.
I did a tally on this awhile ago Here (http://amvhell.com/showpost.php?p=239625&postcount=108).
SarcotarascusN
08-07-2011, 06:26 AM
Wonder whether SSG will ever do another hentai AMV Hell.
Someone once mentioned that it should be called AMV Hell ^0, which would be cool, except that anything to the zero-power will equal one. Meaning that we'd end up with a carbon copy of the original AMV Hell. Old school, eh?
LawRayLiet
08-07-2011, 06:31 AM
Sure who doesnt :P... I just thought I'd bring it up cause if you drop the "Same Clip/Song" bull**** and watch the very first hell and compare/contrast it to a current mini it falls far from being "adult" in nature and I use the word adult loosely, cant think of a better term for describing it.
I submitted some adult clips about 3 months ago.
They were accepted, but Zarx thought they would fit better in a Bad Stuff episode.
He said the episode's half full already, so I'm guessing he's been doing this with other adult clips.
I think once this Bad Stuff episode is done with, we'll probably get a bit more of the adult ones in regular episodes.
Because there will no where else to put them.
Sir Fluffykins
08-07-2011, 12:29 PM
...Minor Nudity is cleavage/rear/whole naked body but without showing privates or nipples, it was clarified eons ago in the dark ages of the 1970's. If you need an example, watch AMV Nightmare and you'll see plenty of "Minor nudity scenes".
16 age limit is showing entire boobs, even privates and sex, without showing actual penetration. Exmaple Rome had male nudity, sex, female nudity, graphic violence (but not gore) and was rated 16.
I'd hate to the know what you watch if you can't tell the difference between porn and normal mainstream shows anymore.
This One is AMAZING. But the quality is a bit to high for my garphic Card. It seems that its not AMV-Hell COmpatibly ^^
Malev
08-10-2011, 04:32 AM
11 cameos made it into the 2nd Portal 2 Space Core segment. A few weren't put in due to image source issues or space (no pun intended) constraints:
-Space Battleship Yamato / Argo
-Captain Harlock's ship Arcadia
-The Soyokaze from Irresponsible Captain Tylor
-The Macross
-Super Mario Bros. 3's Angry Sun
-R-9A Arrowhead from R-Type
-Blue Thunder M-45 from Konami's "Thunder Cross"
-The Flintlock from XEXEX
-Uncle Scrooge on the Moon
Honestly, all that was put in to punch up the boring droning parts.
Antonio Black
08-11-2011, 02:08 AM
Hey guys.
Take your debate somewhere else huh?
LawRayLiet
08-11-2011, 02:55 AM
Hey guys.
Take your debate somewhere else huh?
You're 4 days to late my friend.
SentiNel
08-11-2011, 09:43 AM
No disrespect for Malev but DAMN those clips were annoying...
bloodlover1987
08-11-2011, 07:56 PM
lol lamas with hats and the asshole song was the best
HalOfBorg
08-12-2011, 01:41 AM
lol lamas with hats and the asshole song was the best
Yay!
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