[XxFabiGBxX]

A place to talk about things (mostly video games and animes) you consider either overrated or underrated.

Okay I'll start.

I considerer GTA 4 overrated, if you compare it with GTA SA , it just doesn't deserves a 10/10

[bloodlover1987]

saints row 2 way underrated....... uncharted overrated it was a fun game but not a 10


this has flame war written all over it xD

[N.P.C.C.]

Under rated game: Indigo Prophecy (Fahrenheit)

Anyone who has played it would place it as one of their favorite Xbox/Ps2 games ever. This game set the stage for "Heavy Rain" on the PS3 and deserves credit as having one of the best starts of any game ever. Too bad it becomes sort of a cluster **** near the end though.

Over rated: Super mario galaxy

I don't know how to put except i was extremely disappointed by this one as it just lacked the spirit that 64 had. Something is seriously wrong when you can phone it in through the story of the entire game without having to ever do a "Where the **** do i go now?" star. There is really no sense of challenge here that the predecessor had as difficulty never really progressed. It just...got to me and after beating it without even trying, i couldn't bring myself to 100% it and gave it to my little cousin. Maybe i'll change my thought if i get it back and go for that next.

[bloodlover1987]

yeah i watched a friend play that it was pretty good

[Gentle Dementia]

saints row 2 way underrated....... uncharted overrated it was a fun game but not a 10


this has flame war written all over it xD

Saints row is my life.

Mashed the preorder button the second it showed up on steam.

[hosokawa37]

I really feel that Midori Days is an under rated anime. with a unique story line, funny scenes, and many other things that make it one of my fav series of all time.

I do believe Evangelion is over rated imo, even though I actually like the show lol

[SarcotarascusN]

For shows, I think that Bokurano is shamefully underrated, as is Kino's Journey. I would say the same about Haibane Renmei, except that I've discovered a thriving fanbase elsewhere, so it's only underrated in certain circles.

The OVAs "Mezzo Forte" and "Read or Die" both deserve more exposure.

Cat Soup is a piece that any lover of experimental film should see; it's a wonderful acid trip of surrealism that rarely seems to get out of the underground circuits. And the short film Cencoroll is excellent for anyone who is looking for a fresh change of pace in the mecha scene and can spare 40 minutes.

As for severely overrated, I will never, never, ever understand the appeal of Naruto, and I can't get myself to like Gurren Lagann or FullMetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, either. Truly, the hype behind Gurren Lagann is probably the biggest turn-off. If I'm already not crazy about a show, I will start to hate it the instance people start to hype it up. I'll admit that I can do this to other people, too, so I think everyone's entitled to rave about their favorite show a bit, but I've just found Gurren Lagann to be mediocre every time I've tried it.

I was also disappointed by the movie Metropolis, which I'd heard nothing but glowing reviews about. It's a movie with a good heart and beautiful visuals but a terribly told story, and I thought that it was horrendously boring at many points where it should not have been. It did pick up at the ending, which improved my opinion a bit.

[abyssion1337]

Metropolis changed many many parts of Osamu Tezuka's original story but kept many of the same themes, which is where it succeeds

Underrated: Earth Maiden Arjuna, mostly unheard of in far too man circles, think Lain with trees, which I hate is the way it gets described but I don't want to say much about it

Overrated: Ikkitousen, god I hated everything about this thing and yet it has to be overrated with all the sequels it's gotten

[twilightsquid]

Under rated game: Indigo Prophecy (Fahrenheit)

Anyone who has played it would place it as one of their favorite Xbox/Ps2 games ever. This game set the stage for "Heavy Rain" on the PS3 and deserves credit as having one of the best starts of any game ever. Too bad it becomes sort of a cluster **** near the end though.



that, my friends, is what is known as a massive assumption, and an incorrect one at that. I played it, thought it was rather silly, poorly told, and didn't make any sense. Once I got to the point where I was a magic zombie involved in a matrix style fight with the leader of a magic cult, I called it quits. Most of the people I've talked to about it tend to agree with me, so it's not just me.

[N.P.C.C.]

that, my friends, is what is known as a massive assumption, and an incorrect one at that. I played it, thought it was rather silly, poorly told, and didn't make any sense. Once I got to the point where I was a magic zombie involved in a matrix style fight with the leader of a magic cult, I called it quits. Most of the people I've talked to about it tend to agree with me, so it's not just me.

*Shrugs*

Everyone i talk to pretty much agrees with me so i don't know what to tell you except Hey, it's all opinion after all and that's cool. I did say however the game has an excellent start then becomes crazy. Most people who remember it as fondly as i did block out that last 3/4's of the story and for good reason. The game is great and many still believe that. hell, i could still play those first few chapters and have a great time.

[bloodlover1987]

zelda 2

[jinzo64]

you mean the side scrolling one from the snes

[bloodlover1987]

on the nes and i ment to say underrated xD

[jinzo64]

i agree with that.

[jeremyhac]

Overrated Animes: Naruto, Bleach, Code Geass. Throw One Piece in there for ****s and giggles. Thank you and good night!

[tanis_lionheart]

UNDERRATED...

DS:
Legend of Kage 2:
Like the old school Ninja Gaiden, but easier (most of the time). Great art, graphics, story and a fairly complex magic system. Add in two characters that play differently enough to justify playing through both 'stories' and you have one of the best games Square has put out in YEARS.


PS2:
(Naval Ops Series) Warship Gunner 2:
Think Armored Core (but not as ****ing slow, most of the time) with page after page after page of upgrades and ships types.
Play as everything from some little Currier to a submarine to an Aircraft Carrier and a story that's ripped out of the Ace Combat games, and you've got one of the most under looked games on the PS2.
The sales of this game were just plan shameful.


Baroque:
While this game does nothing to prepare you and, lets face it, the story you pretty much accidentally bump into, that's one of the reason you keep coming back. A tower that never seems to end, great character and monster designs, haunting music, difficulty that goes from a walk in the park to a walk in the hurricane, this game is just an odd kind of fun.
A total throwback to dungeon crawlers like Diablo or Planscape: Torment, no game is ever exactly the same.
Add to it the fact that dieing actually makes you progress, and you've got one weird but fun game.

Dropship: United Peace Force:
One of the odder games I've come across (and that's saying something) you play as well a..dropship that carries your other ships into combat and spy missions. With game play that goes from 'Ace Combat' to 'Tank Battle', there's really a variety of ways to complete missions and fun to be had.
My biggest issue with this game is that the level are too damn long and while there are check points, they don't really help if you just want a quick play.


Ghost In The Shell: Stand Alone Complex:
A GOOD anime based game? What the ****, am I right?
While not the best game in the world, the simple fact that this game is not total **** (SEE: GitS on the PSP) and has a GREAT 4 player multi-player mode with a decent story, great graphics, and controls that actually work, some really good weapons and combat, this is one of my favorite anime based games out there.

Giants: Citizen Kabuto:
You play as a drunk alien British mercenary, a naked water chick, and a huge ****ing dinosaur like thing. What's not to love?
A game that never seems to take itself to seriously (SEE: Most lines of dialogue in the game), some great game play that differs from each storyline (or creature class), plus some really fun run and kill game play, and you've got an over looked gem.

Gitaroo Man (Also on PSP):
Gain a magical guitar, fight a baby demon in the tutorial and proceed to fight (with the power of music) skeletons and evil alien keyboards and you've got one of the quirkiest rhythm music games on the PS2.
One big issue is that when you pause the game on a song you HAVE TO replay from the start, this has been fixed in the PSP port of the game (thank ****ing god).


God Hand :
Insane 2D beat-em-up but 3D, genuinely funny moments and ball busting difficulty.
Add some of the best music in a game, with an amazing replay value and a custom combo maker and you've pretty much got the new school answer to Double Dragon or Battletoads...but without the ****ty racing stages.


Gundam: Zeonic Front:
Yeah, yeah I know...A gundam game, underrated or Under appreciated? What the hell am I smoking, right?
Well, guess what, you'd be wrong. This is the Gundam game for people who don't really like...well...Gundam games.
A tactical third person shooter (SEE: SOCOM) with mechs, this is one of those weird games were even people I know who don't give a crap/like Gundam (or anime for that matter) seem to enjoy this game.
While not the most complex or long game of its kind, there's something surreal about leading a group of 5 Zaku like you're a freaking general into the fray as if this were SOCOM or a online team up of some random FPS.



A few others I'm too lazy to write up:
Klonoa 2
Okage: Shadow King
Oni
Psychonauts
Red Faction 1
Samurai Western
Shadow Of Destiny
Skygunner
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters
Sub Rebellion
TransFormers
VCL Presents: Motor Mayhem
Whiplash
Wizardry: Tale Of The Forsaken Land
Wrath: Unleashed
Zone Of The Enders 2: The 2nd Runner

[NodMan]

The worlds most overrated game, Halo series. Seriously lets take Perfect Dark and beef it up a little then rip off Half Life's story only put it in space.

Most underrated game, G-Nome. If you played it in it's hay day, you would know why.

TV show that needs to die, Jersey Shore. God oh God why, can't I just kill them all already...

Most underrated TV show, Lexx. Eva Habermann, enough said.

Overrated movie, Napoleon Dynamite. Yah lets watch a comedy with nothing funny in it.

Underrated movie, Outpost. Ghost Nazis? Sign me up.

Completely overrated Anime, Dragon Ball Z. Lets take no ques from Dragon Ball, and make it a never ending story of guys screaming to make themselves more powerful.

Unheard of and vastly underrated Anime, Shin Angyo Onshi. Korean Manga turned into a Korean/Japanese collaboration movie that is just amazing to watch.


I considerer GTA 4 overrated, if you compare it with GTA SA , it just doesn't deserves a 10/10

San Andreas was the one with the "Level Up" system for driving, right? If so, it was complete ****. Riding a BMX faster than a car? Please...

[jinzo64]

San Andreas was the one with the "Level Up" system for driving, right? If so, it was complete ****. Riding a BMX faster than a car? Please...

that makes sense since cars can't ride bikes.

[Distict5-9]

The OVAs "Mezzo Forte" and "Read or Die" both deserve more exposure.


You don't know how much I can agree with this; I can always only barely find the OVA of Read or Die around, although I found it, personally, to be an excellent series for one so underrated...

[mattroks101]

Underrated anime: Baccano!

Overrated anime: Fullmetal Alchemist

[jinzo64]

i knew rod had a film but i didn't know it had an ova

[Distict5-9]

Underrated anime: Baccano!


I didn't find Baccano! to be too underrated. Not with one of the greatest villains of anime history, at least...

I do, however, find Origin; Spirits of the Past to be way too f*cking big for its boots!
Alright, not too many people know about it (I'd be surprised if you even saw it...)
However, what's with all the high-rating it gets on all these anime databases?! Seriously, on most of the ones I consulted, this series got barely less than the way far superior "Laputa, Castle in the Sky"
We're talking here about a series who's only slightly redeeming feature is perhaps the artwork... whenever they aren't filling the scenes with CGI; it seems as if these people can barely make one action sequence without some weird-ass CGI sprouting out of it.
Not to mention the flimsy and weak "environmental" plot. If you want to watch a good anime with a decent environmental message, watch almost any Studio Ghibli Movie; every one of them contains at least one of those messages, while having a far superior story and being far more enjoyable to watch.
I hate Origin...

[N.P.C.C.]

Overated: Spirited Away.

It's plot and the way it's paced is just all over the place and while looking good, i can't understand why it's so popular except for eye candy.

[SarcotarascusN]

i knew rod had a film but i didn't know it had an ova

As far as I know, there isn't a movie. There's a three-episode OVA (which came first) and a TV series that were both loosely based on a long-running manga series.

The manga isn't popular over here, which may be why more people haven't watched it (I haven't read it, so I can't pass judgement). But I'm very glad I did: I thought it was one of the most entertaining things I've seen, that the characters were fantastic, that it had a wonderful sense of humor, and that, above all, the story thrived in spite of its outward zaniness (an organization that hunts down clones of obscure historical figures? Actually, pretty cool, but I must admit it's crazy-sounding).

I've yet to see the TV series, however. I don't have much time, so its easier to finish a movie or OVA than a long (or even moderately long) TV series.

Edit: I also think that Umineko is severely overrated. I will never watch that show again. It ain't even that bad on the exterior, but no show does a better job of pushing my buttons with such a combination of annoying characters, boring stories, and just straight-up pretentiousness.

[abyssion1337]

Underrated anime: Baccano!

Really? Baccano! is amazingly awesome but it's not underrated because pretty much every says so, or says it's not their cup of tea

[Gleeman]

For shows, I think that Bokurano is shamefully underrated, as is Kino's Journey. I would say the same about Haibane Renmei, except that I've discovered a thriving fanbase elsewhere, so it's only underrated in certain circles.

"Read or Die"


Haven't seen Bokuarano yet, but I agree 100% about the other ones. Lots of rabid anime fans I know have never heard of Kino's Journey or Haibane.


My quick over-rated list: Gurren Lagan, Eureka 7, Strike Witches, Soul Eater.

[Kaiju]

My Over rated List: Naruto, One Peice, Bleach, Soul Eater, Fairy Tail,



Under Rated:
Berserk: I can honestly say, This is my favorite Manga series. The Art is damn near perfect, and the story, conflict and main protagonist is like something out of Warhammer Fantasy, which is ****ing awesome. But most people only see the Anime, and throw it away :( When I talk Manga, I always get Naruto and ****, rarely this piece of gold gets mentioned.

[bonehimer]

Beck is pretty underrated, but its really obscure so I doubt any of you have heard about it!

[abyssion1337]

Kino's Journey: One of the best most mature series I've ever seen

[mattroks101]

I didn't find Baccano! to be too underrated. Not with one of the greatest villains of anime history, at least...


It's more underrated as in it's not well known.

[abyssion1337]

It's really well known actually

[SarcotarascusN]

Beck is pretty underrated, but its really obscure so I doubt any of you have heard about it!

I've heard of it. I'm planning to watch it sometime soon. It's gotten good press on one of the other sites I visit. :)

Edit: And Baccano is hardly obscure, except in mainstream circles. Then again, when someone unfamiliar with anime hears the word "anime" they most likely think either "Naruto", "Giant robots", "Sailor Moon", or "Miyazaki".

[mattroks101]

Everyone I've talked too has never heard of it. And most of them were otakus.

[abyssion1337]

You clearly don't go to enough cons to meet real otaku

[jinzo64]

i want to be a real otaku

[mattroks101]

You clearly don't go to enough cons to meet real otaku

I clearly must not.

[jinzo64]

what is the best way to become a real otaku

[Backmask]

what is the best way to become a real otaku

Gain five hundred pounds
Grow a neckbeard
Never bath
Never brush your teeth
Replace common terms with random Japanese words (i.e. Kawaii with cute)
Have a waifu
Spend half of your paycheck on figurines
Obtain autism
Have the worlds worst social skills
Own an anime t-shirt
"Glomp" people
Become a piece of **** that nobody likes
Eat ramen and rice with chopsticks.
Believe that Naruto could beat Batman

The list goes on and on, Jinzo.

[SarcotarascusN]

Not to mention listening to lots, and lots, and lots of J-Pop, whether it be good or bad (most likely the latter).

Making pop music "exotic" does not make it good. LEARN THAT FACT.

[Stevie]

overrated anime: Neon Genesis Evangelion. first half was good, but second half was awful, even despite the budget cuts. also, half of the characters were insufferable.

[jinzo64]

Gain five hundred pounds weight or cash
Grow a neckbeard never
Never bath i only shower so done
Never brush your teeth erm i can't do that
Replace common terms with random Japanese words (i.e. Kawaii with cute)
i can try this
Have a waifu erm tasty
Spend half of your paycheck on figurines done
Obtain autism can you just obtain austism:confused:
Have the worlds worst social skills done
Own an anime t-shirt got 5 + 3 loz tshirts
"Glomp" people:confused:
Become a piece of **** that nobody likes working on it
Eat ramen and rice with chopsticks. can i use a fork and spoon
Believe that Naruto could beat Batman
thats just silly naruto couldn't beat paper with a pair of scissors

The list goes on and on, Jinzo.

thanks for the advice maybe i'll be a semi otaku

[abyssion1337]

overrated anime: Neon Genesis Evangelion. first half was good, but second half was awful, even despite the budget cuts. also, half of the characters were insufferable.

I would disagree, the first half is a really bad slice of live series with giant robot overtones but let's face it; the reason the series shines is because it's such a huge deconstruction of the super robot genre, to be clear NGE is to super robot as Modoka is Magical Girl.

[KlausJuergen]

Most underrated game, G-Nome. If you played it in it's hay day, you would know why.

Most underrated TV show, Lexx. Eva Habermann, enough said.


Yeah, G-Nome ... that was a really good Mecha game. The Gashr rifle was one of the best things ever. I think if it hadn't to compete against the Mechwarrior series (which was far more weak at that time imho) this would be a top seller.

Lexx ... well, I still watch it every now and then. Sadly that was the only really good acting role for Eva. Since then she only acts in ****ty TV movies and series.

Overrated anime: Death Note. It starts really good but in the second half of the show it just gets stupid and boring.

[bloodlover1987]

eminem way way WAY!!!!!! over rated

[jeremyhac]

The fock blood? He's way better than any other rapper of today.

[Kaiju]

Eminem is actually pretty damn good, actually. I hate rap, and I love Eminem.
Some of his older stuff is a little meh, but his newer stuff is good.


Gain five hundred pounds
Grow a neckbeard
Never bath
Never brush your teeth
Replace common terms with random Japanese words (i.e. Kawaii with cute)
Have a waifu
Spend half of your paycheck on figurines
Obtain autism
Have the worlds worst social skills
Own an anime t-shirt
"Glomp" people
Become a piece of **** that nobody likes
Eat ramen and rice with chopsticks.
Believe that Naruto could beat Batman

The list goes on and on, Jinzo.

No. **** No. Batman, given enough prep-time, could beat anyone.

[bloodlover1987]

he is the goddamn batman

and no Eminem is a piece of ****

[Backmask]

he is the goddamn batman

and no Eminem is a piece of ****

I agree with this whole post.
Batman is the goddamn Batman, **** everything else.
And Eminem sucks. He just raps about how he got beat up in high school, and he can't right a song worth ****.
"They **** took **** my **** lunch **** money ****, so **** I **** couldn't **** pay **** for **** my **** lunch **** today"
I've seen fan fiction that is better written than this, such as Kingdom Hearts. Yes, Kingdom Hearts is a fan fiction, and you all know it.



I would disagree, the first half is a really bad slice of live series with giant robot overtones but let's face it; the reason the series shines is because it's such a huge deconstruction of the super robot genre, to be clear NGE is to super robot as Modoka is Magical Girl.

Evangelion was a deconstruction but it was very lacking in the deconstruction aspect, which is ironic. A good deconstruction, such as Bokurano, is hard to come by. A lot of them come off as preachy, pretentious and annoying. A deconstruction is not just "LOLDARK or LOLDEEP," it is something that, like the name suggests, takes the genre apart piece-by-piece and takes it in a different direction, while maintaining the genre's 'feel'. Madoka was just LOLDARK with boring characters and horrible character development, rushed story, and an Asspull Ending. It didn't take any new path in the genre that hasn't already been explored. And don't pull this "But TVTropes says..." because TVTropes is just like Wikipedia, except with focus on television and comics.

[Kaiju]

I agree with this whole post.
Batman is the goddamn Batman, **** everything else.
And Eminem sucks. He just raps about how he got beat up in high school, and he can't right a song worth ****.
"They **** took **** my **** lunch **** money ****, so **** I **** couldn't **** pay **** for **** my **** lunch **** today"
I've seen fan fiction that is better written than this, such as Kingdom Hearts. Yes, Kingdom Hearts is a fan fiction, and you all know it.


.

Remember, compared to most other rap it isn't bad. :p

[abyssion1337]

I agree with this whole post.
Batman is the goddamn Batman, **** everything else.
And Eminem sucks. He just raps about how he got beat up in high school, and he can't right a song worth ****.
"They **** took **** my **** lunch **** money ****, so **** I **** couldn't **** pay **** for **** my **** lunch **** today"
I've seen fan fiction that is better written than this, such as Kingdom Hearts. Yes, Kingdom Hearts is a fan fiction, and you all know it.




Evangelion was a deconstruction but it was very lacking in the deconstruction aspect, which is ironic. A good deconstruction, such as Bokurano, is hard to come by. A lot of them come off as preachy, pretentious and annoying. A deconstruction is not just "LOLDARK or LOLDEEP," it is something that, like the name suggests, takes the genre apart piece-by-piece and takes it in a different direction, while maintaining the genre's 'feel'. Madoka was just LOLDARK with boring characters and horrible character development, rushed story, and an Asspull Ending. It didn't take any new path in the genre that hasn't already been explored. And don't pull this "But TVTropes says..." because TVTropes is just like Wikipedia, except with focus on television and comics.
I disagree, aside from the last few episodes it was a great deconstruction same with Madoka. You're looking at deconstructionism the wrong way , and I honestly don't know which direction to point you in, probably the one of stop misinterpreting the source material. Madoka and NGE had to have the characters they had to e a true deconstruction, or did you forget that deconstructing characters is a huge part of that. Now Madoka had a slightly uneven ending but it was far from an asspull, all the framework for that ending was set up well in advance. Now I also can't blame NGE for its ending, they had no budget and while I disagree with the particular philosophy presented it was a psychological exercise. Yeah I guess it just feels like you don't fully understand deconstruction, though you clearly understand parts of it.

[Backmask]

I disagree, aside from the last few episodes it was a great deconstruction same with Madoka. You're looking at deconstructionism the wrong way , and I honestly don't know which direction to point you in, probably the one of stop misinterpreting the source material. Madoka and NGE had to have the characters they had to e a true deconstruction, or did you forget that deconstructing characters is a huge part of that. Now Madoka had a slightly uneven ending but it was far from an asspull, all the framework for that ending was set up well in advance. Now I also can't blame NGE for its ending, they had no budget and while I disagree with the particular philosophy presented it was a psychological exercise. Yeah I guess it just feels like you don't fully understand deconstruction, though you clearly understand parts of it.


In the NGE regard,I wasn't saying that NGE was bad in terms of a deconstruction. I was saying that Evangelion slowly turned into its own thing and not much of a deconstruction. It became less of a Science/Giant Robot/Super Robot and into a genre of its own in my opinion. I understand where you are coming from in the NGE angle, and I agree with you; however, on the Madoka angle, I disagree strongly.

"Kaworu manipulates Shinji into betraying NERV, which leads into Shinji talking Rei/Asuka/Mari into joining him and Kaworu, but they don't listen. Then when Rei/Asuka/Mari is about to kill Shinji, Shinji's EVA goes rage mode and kills Rei/Asuka/Mari."


If we are considering Madoka's characters to be...I guess deconstruction-tier is the term I should use, then many characters from a shonen manga could be placed in the same-tier.

Madoka was nothing more than a cheerleader during the series 'til the end. She was thrown to the side to make room for the other characters. The last few episodes turned it into "Puella Magi Homura Magica, with Madoka".
Homura was just a boring character, who had the best action scenes and a rather retarded reason for her 'mission'. "I want to save this person who I only knew for a short amount of time."
Mami was just a plot device character and nothing more.character
Sayaka was a stereotypical, tomboy, long-time-friend, character who just went crazy. She was probably the only character that had any depth.
Kyouko was just there to replace Mami, and let us not forget about her rushed as **** character development.

Most of these characters were all just the same character that we have seen before in many shows. Although, it could be deemed unfair because of my "dumbing down" of the characters, but really the characters were so very simple. As for the ending, it felt rushed and incomplete. Almost as if they pulled it out of their ass. I didn't really see anything leading up to it, with the exception of something that QB said, as the story was turning into a trainwreck.

However you could be right. I might not completely understand the term "deconstruction", but I stand by my opinion that Madoka is not a deconstruction.

EDIT: Disregard the "Kaworu manipulates Shinji into betraying NERV, which leads into Shinji talking Rei/Asuka/Mari into joining him and Kaworu, but they don't listen. Then when Rei/Asuka/Mari is about to kill Shinji, Shinji's EVA goes rage mode and kills Rei/Asuka/Mari." statement. I'm having two different conversations right now and they both include NGE and got them mixed up. Hell, my entire post might sound retarded, but make an attempt to understand it.

[abyssion1337]

Ok, I think I see what you're staying about NGE, as for your critique of Madoka characters, that's kinda the point, they're the same characters you'd find in quite a few magical girl series. Of course in Madoka they were given situations that wouldn't be present in normal magical girl series but again, that's the point.

[xIsamuTM]

overrated: All Final Fantasy games after VI. ESPECIALLY VII.


kinda surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet.

[jinzo64]

i think the final fantasy games after VI being overrated was mentioned in the video games thread.
as far as i can tell they are good games and they might deserve the hype they get.
but X2 is definatly not overrated it very often slated as a bad a game.

[mattroks101]

I agree with this whole post.
Batman is the goddamn Batman, **** everything else.
And Eminem sucks. He just raps about how he got beat up in high school, and he can't right a song worth ****.
"They **** took **** my **** lunch **** money ****, so **** I **** couldn't **** pay **** for **** my **** lunch **** today"
I've seen fan fiction that is better written than this, such as Kingdom Hearts. Yes, Kingdom Hearts is a fan fiction, and you all know it.


I also agree with you guys Eminem sucks. All his music is uninspired and dull. I don't know how that guy became famous but he really doesn't deserve it.

[jinzo64]

i'm glad other people don't like eminem.
i think the rihanna song stand there and watch me burn would have been alot better if eminem hadn't been in it.

[jeremyhac]

http://i54.tinypic.com/2psqa91.gif

[jinzo64]

yes yes we are
eminem you s***

[Kaiju]

Lucky Star is also highly over rated as well.
And so is Haruhi Suzumiya.

[jinzo64]

erm possably
you those realy awsome anime/manga lucky star and the melancholy of haruhi suzumiya there awsome.

[tanis_lionheart]

I liked M&M...back when I was in HS/whenever he came out.

But now?
Well, now he's kind of a joke.

[jinzo64]

i likes m+m aswell i think the origional chocolate ones are best:D

[Backmask]

i likes m+m aswell i think the origional chocolate ones are best:D

No. The best M&Ms were the siamese ones. You know the two pieces that got stuck together, and you would find out during lunch at school and you'd say, "Guys, look at this bastard!" then you'd eat it. You'd eat that unique ****ing piece. The pieces that had less of an 'm' and more of a physically retarded Loch Ness Monster.

[jinzo64]

i never got an m&m like that.

[abyssion1337]

erm possably
you those realy awsome anime/manga lucky star and the melancholy of haruhi suzumiya there awsome.

Lucky Star is very polarizing though, either you love it or hate it, Haruhi is more accepted except the second season (which some people use to say the whole series sucks, they're not taken seriously.)

Blood Bowl is underrated.

[SarcotarascusN]

No, I meet a lot of people who despise both Haruhi Suzumiya and her show. My impression is that it's also pretty polarizing.

[jeremyhac]

HARUHI IS GOD

http://i55.tinypic.com/2gtq0zp.jpg

[zemoo]

I liked the Haruhi episodes based on the first book(1st half of season 1), but hated most based on "the boredom" (the other half of season 1). There is no excuse for endless eight, but "the sigh" (filming part of season 2) was at least watchable. "The disappearance" was great however.
I too think it was good overall, but highly overrated.

Also FMA, overrated other than having an ok dub I see no reason why that show is popular, I haven't seen brotherhood, is it better/ worth watching?

[MADEVIL]

I like that god she's hot

[bloodlover1987]

xD

[jinzo64]

her chest is to big it takes away from her origional opeal.

on the fma i like both the origional and brotherhood but brotherhood is over all better.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8136/zzzf.jpg

[bloodlover1987]

brotherhood has to many silly moments in it to be taken ly in n my opinion the first one was better

[MADEVIL]

brotherhood seems mixed for some, i know some that hate it to death and others who thought it was really good

[jinzo64]

i don't think brotherhood has anymore silly moments than the origional.
but personaly i thnik the story in brotherhood is sharper,deeper and more fluid.

[bloodlover1987]

well it follows the manga which the manga is best over all but still when your in the middle of serious fights there is no damn reason to have chibis in there xD


that is one thing that bugs me to death about bleach is they try to have a serious fight or something but they ruin the moment with unnecessary comedy

[jinzo64]

that is very true like the soifon barragan fight with ormeada as comic releif.
then the hitsugaya vs halibel fight got hit with comic releif when hiyori and lisa showed up to help.
the whole stark vs kyoraku and ukitake fight was intertwined with bad comedy.

[bloodlover1987]

stark vs kyoraku i can let pass because that was their characters neither one really like to take fights seriously

[jinzo64]

i guess thats true if he didn't have to fight kyoraku would have had a nice drink with stark.