TheEndOfAllThingsGreen
11-10-2007, 03:54 PM
List/give examples of all the worst dubbing you have heard in anime. The worst one I can think of is Evangelion, cause of how badly they screwed up the voices form the japanese characters to the american dubbed ones... how the hell could you miss it that badly?
so: BEGIN!
emrfish6
11-10-2007, 04:28 PM
It all depends on a person's preference. But in my opinion, the one that sucked the most was the Karin dub. The person they chose to do Karin's voice had the most annoying voice I have ever heard.
beriorgar
11-10-2007, 04:34 PM
the worst dub i ever heard was DNA ^2
it sounds nothing like the origional and just about all voices where really annoying
List/give examples of all the worst dubbing you have heard in anime. The worst one I can think of is Evangelion, cause of how badly they screwed up the voices form the japanese characters to the american dubbed ones... how the hell could you miss it that badly?
so: BEGIN!
I've only ever heard the english dub on television, so I couldn't really tell you.
In fact, Just about every mainstream anime I watch has done a pretty decent job with dubbing. There is one, however: Tenchi Universe had to have the worst english dub I've ever heard.
oppdis
11-10-2007, 04:55 PM
I have two.
1. One Piece *shivers*. Than again, this is 4kids wer're talking about here! A good series that was butchered by the bastards.
2. AzuDai wasn't as bad as One Piece in English, but it still felt a little wrong. Chiyo was too... cute and a few of the other voices barely sounded like the Japanese characters.
-oppdis
Filleraol
11-10-2007, 05:04 PM
I've only watched inuyasha, yu yu hakusho and fullmetal alchemist dubbed and I think it was good. But I watched the 4kids dub of One Piece on youtube, and I regret that I got my headset infected by that crap. The worst thing I've heard, AND seen!
TheEndOfAllThingsGreen
11-10-2007, 05:36 PM
yeah, azumanga daioh eng dub wasn't that bad, but it didn't sound....right for some reason..
Kyndurr
11-10-2007, 05:37 PM
angelic layer was kind of bad from what i've seen
those who hunt elves
Kyndurr
Arden Jace
11-10-2007, 06:19 PM
List/give examples of all the worst dubbing you have heard in anime. The worst one I can think of is Evangelion, cause of how badly they screwed up the voices form the japanese characters to the american dubbed ones... how the hell could you miss it that badly?
I disagree. Asuka sounds like she's no more than 10 years old in the Japanese version, and the fact that Shinji was voiced by a woman is fairly obvious at times. However, I thought both versions of Gendo and Rei were phenominal. Also, expecting the English counterparts to sound precisely like the Japanese version is asking a bit much, in my opinion.
Anyway, the first few episodes of Elfen Lied were very poorly done in both the Japanese and English version, if you ask me. Also, the English version of Burst Angel (or at least the first two episodes) were downright horrible. Hopefully, when I bring myself back to watching that, it'll get better.
The only problem I really have with English dubs is that, after a while, you start to recognize certain voice-actors' voices in different series. The most obvious one I can think of is Melissa Mao from FMP! and Misato Katsuragi from NGE. Another example would be Kaname Chidori from FMP! and Yukari-sensei from AzuDai. A more amusing (and subtle) example is how the guy who played Shinji Ikari also played Gojyou Shiouji (the ****phile doctor) from Excel Saga. However, there are some instances where this is broken. Example: The guy who voiced Alucard in Hellsing also did Hideki Motosuwa in Chobits. I still have trouble believing this.
At any rate, I don't really have a problem with English dubs, as I tend not to ever watch anime in Japanese unless I really have to. My argument is that, if I wanted to read, I'd buy manga. I watch anime to watch. I guess this habit comes out of how the first anime I got into were mech-anime, where actually seeing everything happen on-screen is the point of watching it.
TheEndOfAllThingsGreen
11-10-2007, 06:44 PM
well, I figure watching something created in its original language is better then 'americanizing' it, I don't mind reading the subs, but it can get to be a bit much when the subs also translate backround conversations.... whole paragraphs. it gets difficult trying to find out exactly what the charcters are saying...
I liked the osaka voice in Daioh, conveyed ger slowness and dreamlike state... As for Eva, my diggest gripe was , as you said Shinji's voice, it makes him sound more like a wimp then he does in the japanese version. i also CANNOT STAND Toji's and that dumb kid that follows him around's amrican dub voice: Toji just sounds outright stupid, and the other voice makes me want to rip my ears off...
I think I like watching without dubs better because to me, thats how the characters were supposed to REALLY sound. The exception to this is Chobits, the guy who did Hideki was DAMN good. I found it more enjoyable then the subbed version...
TheEndOfAllThingsGreen
11-10-2007, 07:11 PM
a little off topic, but would you guys know where I could find a link for evangelion eps 12 and 15? download/stream anything.
Arden Jace
11-10-2007, 07:12 PM
I agree with you that Americanization is teh suck, but I when I think Americanization, I think of someone taking the 4Kids axe to a series, not so much simply translating and dubbing it.
As far as Shinji's voice is concerned, he's supposed to be a spineless, depressed, 14-year-old boy; these kinds of kids don't tend to have very cool, bas-ass voices. While I agree that his voice can be a bit annoying at times, I think it fits better than if he sounded like, say, Alucard.
Toji didn't get enough screen-time for me to really care about how he sounded, and given that Kensuke is a complete nerd, I think his voice fits him very well.
I guess I look at characters' voices with a "not what's right, but what works" attitude. I can deal with someone having a slightly annoying or stupid-sounding voice, if it fits their character.
Split Second
11-10-2007, 08:39 PM
Hm I never liked the dub for Chobits. Chi's voice was more annoying when spoken in my language.
As for the worst dub ever? Try not to judge me for knowing this, but the worst dub of all time is Bible Black Gaiden, also known as one the most popular and nastiest hentias ever made. The dub for this thing is legendary. It turns this perverse satanic garbage into a macabre comedy.
Here's a clip of this deliciously horrible dub:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0i-SW2HGAE
Bible Black wins period.
As for the worst mainstream dub. I wouldn't no. I only watch dubs if they're really really good, like Cowboy Bebop good.
Arden Jace
11-10-2007, 08:46 PM
Yeah, I forget how/when I stumbled across Bible Black (if memory serves, I probably thought it was an actual series, rather than hentai) but yeah, that **** is just bad.
yeah, azumanga daioh eng dub wasn't that bad, but it didn't sound....right for some reason..
Yeah, Chiyo's voice for the english dub was a bit grating, though I kinda liked Osaka's southern accent.
Inkwolf
11-10-2007, 09:21 PM
I tried to watch Revolutionary Girl Utena: The Movie a while ago, and I thought all the voice actors sounded as if they were
1. Drugged
2. Sleepy
3. Annoyed because they weren't getting paid.
masterage
11-10-2007, 09:24 PM
Until I heard the ear-stabbing quality of Bible Black's "dub", I thought that One Peice (4kids version) had the worst...
PeanutSteak
11-10-2007, 09:31 PM
Although from what I've seen of the Death Note dub the voice acting is pretty good, I don't like how they decided to slap on a Japanese accent for the words "kira" and "Ryuk."
Jinbu
11-10-2007, 10:00 PM
I cant believe nobody has mentioned Naruto yet.
TheEndOfAllThingsGreen
11-10-2007, 11:26 PM
Bible Black... LOL. I listened to the clip and I started laughing as soon as the girl said 'Wheel of Fortune' in that wierd ass voice. none of the characters seemed to have the right one...lol
Anyways, I know Shinji was supposed to sound spineless, but he sounded less spineless and more likeable in the Japenese version. In the American version he sounds too wimpy.
I would agree that while Toji didn't really get alot of screentime, he still deserves a voice better then the crap they gave him. I was watching on Youtube, and as soon as I heard that voice, and the voice of the nerd, I stopped the movie, unplugged my speakers and restarted my computer to rid it of the stupid contamination. When a Voice is THAT BAD, you need to find someone else to do the part... who chooses these people???
I kinda agree, Chi DID sound a little annoying at times, but only when she repeated her name when say... she was walking down a flight of stairs... unneccesary moments like those.
Issitheus
11-11-2007, 04:09 AM
Azumanga Daioh. One of the worst dubs I have ever heard. Osaka has a southern drawl. WHY?!
TheEndOfAllThingsGreen
11-11-2007, 04:19 AM
yeah, I hated that too, made it sound stupid. sounded like she came from alabama. RAAAAHHHHHHH!
Azumanga Daioh. One of the worst dubs I have ever heard. Osaka has a southern drawl. WHY?!
I think the idea was to establish a similar connection between the Japanese associations with Osaka (the city) and the American associations with the south (prehaps some sort of equivilancy?). Personally, and I say this as a southerner myself, I liked it.
Even so, there's just no excuse for the bleeding horror that is Chiyo-chan's voiceover.
(And that, children, is why we have fansubs.)
Issitheus
11-11-2007, 05:47 AM
Azumanga Daioh. One of the worst dubs I have ever heard. Osaka has a southern drawl. WHY?!
I think the idea was to establish a similar connection between the Japanese associations with Osaka (the city) and the American associations with the south (prehaps some sort of equivilancy?). Personally, and I say this as a southerner myself, I liked it.
Even so, there's just no excuse for the bleeding horror that is Chiyo-chan's voiceover.
(And that, children, is why we have fansubs.)
meh, i too live in the south, but i hate it. so, what, were they going to rename her South?
and i think that chiyo's voice in english is somewhat similar to that of the original japanese... but that's me.
PeanutSteak
11-11-2007, 05:54 AM
Of the brief video of the Azumanga Daioh English dub that I saw I was pretty disappointed in what I heard.
Issitheus
11-11-2007, 05:56 AM
I call for a fandub! who's in?
PeanutSteak
11-11-2007, 06:05 AM
I call for a fandub! who's in?
I'm in, lately I've been considering a career in voice acting so this would be a great way to start. I'm a guy though so I wouldn't be able to do many of the voices.
Issitheus
11-11-2007, 06:09 AM
I call for a fandub! who's in?
I'm in, lately I've been considering a career in voice acting so this would be a great way to start. I'm a guy though so I wouldn't be able to do many of the voices.
*falsetto*Same here! Why not try this?*end falsetto*
final product: worst dub ever.
verdict: we need girls.
Arden Jace
11-11-2007, 07:35 AM
<---- Androgynous
(does that count?)
oppdis
11-11-2007, 06:58 PM
I call for a fandub! who's in?
KIMURA! I WANT TO BE KIMURA!
PeanutSteak
11-11-2007, 07:44 PM
I'll be random male student #3.
Issitheus
11-11-2007, 08:23 PM
http://amvhell.com/index.php/topic,1220.0.html
TheEndOfAllThingsGreen
11-11-2007, 11:34 PM
Episode 26 of Eva (possible spoilers)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK, just tell me, do I need to watch the 'end of eva' trio of episodes to understand what in the FRAG happened in eps 25-26?
Does Shinji construct some aort of world? Or is the world the same except Shinji?
here is my timeline of understanding for eps 25-26:
25:
Beginning: eh?!
Middle: WTF!?!
End: Oh, ok. and WTF!?! Combined.
26:
Beginning: WTF???
Middle: Huh?
3/4 through(when he sees one possibility): Hmm, I kinda get that...
End: WHAT THE FRAKKING BLOODY BLASTED HELL WAS THAT??? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PLANET!!!
tried to make new topic but something supid happened,.
UNOwen
11-12-2007, 12:37 AM
Someone beat me to the dub of Bible Black. The voice of a 50 year-old life-long smoker just isn't teh sexy. >:( It would be much better redubbed like AMV Hell 0 (i.e. with the Benny Hill theme music).
TheEndOfAllThingsGreen
11-12-2007, 01:11 AM
KIMURA! I WANT TO BE KIMURA!
ok, only if you can do 'KAORIIIIIIN!' call perfectly.
yagsnave
11-26-2007, 03:37 AM
I wanted random male student 3 =/
Is the random male student 2 part still open?
PeanutSteak
11-26-2007, 04:29 AM
I wanted random male student 3 =/
Is the random male student 2 part still open?
I believe so, it's all yours.
thedarkmessenger
12-07-2007, 07:47 PM
For me, it would definitely have to be Naruto. In japanese, it's not too bad for the most part. In english, however, it's the worst voice acting I've ever heard. Almost all of the characters sound like they're done by the same person. (to me, anyways).
beriorgar
12-08-2007, 12:55 PM
i'd say dna^2 is the worst dub ever, the voices don't sound anything like the origional, and thei're just no good at all
JDavis
12-14-2007, 07:26 AM
Nobody is going to mention Love Hina? Seriously? :-\
Even my dub-loving friends will only watch Love Hina subbed.
PeanutSteak
12-14-2007, 03:39 PM
Nobody is going to mention Love Hina? Seriously? :-\
Even my dub-loving friends will only watch Love Hina subbed.
I couldn't find a subbed version of the spring special online, it was awful. They broke the 4th wall several times in it which was never done in the original version of the series, I still haven't seen a subbed version so I don't know if it's in the original.
oppdis
12-14-2007, 05:31 PM
I'm okay with Naruto's dub, I just choose not to watch it as an anime. ::)
PS: 666 views when this was posted.
-oppdis
zustin662
12-17-2007, 12:48 AM
one piece Was The worst dub
TheEndOfAllThingsGreenII
12-17-2007, 04:56 PM
Wow, I never thought this thread would be so wildly sucsessfull. I guess its just because I'm that awesome.
Not a fan of the Bebop dub, they make spike sound like a kid.
UbergamerMatt
12-17-2007, 06:34 PM
Sailor Moon is the only dub to ever make me sick to my stomach. i can't watch it without wanting to be sick. One peice and Naruto are pretty bad too.
Nightshiver
12-17-2007, 09:55 PM
Worst dubs:
Bleach (When I first heard the dub, I started laughing)
Neon Genesis Evangelion (Hate the voices)
Elfen Lied (Nyu's voice was just wrong and annoying)
Best dubs:
Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Z
Outlaw Star
Ghost in the Shell SAC (both seasons)
Full Metal Alchemist
Blue Gender
Trigun
Noir
moretoast4me
12-19-2007, 04:15 AM
naruto i mean he sounds sooo stupid sasuke sounds kinda da same gaara sounds....creepy and instead of drunken fist its loopy fist WTH?!!
Issitheus
12-19-2007, 11:02 AM
naruto i mean he sounds sooo stupid sasuke sounds kinda da same gaara sounds....creepy and instead of drunken fist its loopy fist WTH?!!
thats annoying, but understandable... their target audience is probably kids 9-13, right? if they made rock lee a better fighter when he was drunk, kids might want to try it. not the best idea in the world.
Arden Jace
12-21-2007, 12:10 AM
Not a fan of the Bebop dub, they make spike sound like a kid.
You must be watching a fandub. Or maybe Siberian children sound like 20-something year old men.
Then again I blow my eardrums out on a regular basis, so who knows.
Bible Black.
Thread over.
TheEndOfAllThingsGreen
01-12-2008, 04:22 PM
Oh, you haven't heard? As of 2004, all siberian children are given drugs and biomechanical implants to make them into super soldiers.
Surprised you haven't heard of it.
But if someone is ging to do a fandub, wh would you cast a bunch of idiots that sound nothing like the characters?
Arden Jace
01-12-2008, 07:21 PM
Oh, you haven't heard? As of 2004, all siberian children are given drugs and biomechanical implants to make them into super soldiers.
Surprised you haven't heard of it.
Actually, I had. Here's some evidence.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i316/Whitley5190/live-in-russia.jpg
But if someone is ging to do a fandub, wh would you cast a bunch of idiots that sound nothing like the characters?
Fandubs, by definition, aren't professional, and thus aren't going to sound good.
As far as making someone who is speaking in English sound like someone saying the same thing in Japanese, that's impossible.
TheEndOfAllThingsGreen
01-13-2008, 12:03 AM
Oh, so fandubs are supposed to be a joke? that makes sence.
You can make someone speaking in english sound like someone speaking in japanese. Not EXACTLY like them, but close enough so its not horrendous. >:( >:( ;D ;) :D
I have seen that place before, its the training grounds for cadets.
animefreak32046
01-13-2008, 02:02 AM
The worst dub that I heard of as of date ain't a whole series but of one character. The English voice of Mikuru Asahina. I swear, over half of the d@mn series, she sounded like a male impersonating a female voice. It was so bad, that I cried when I first heard her voice. :'(
As for Osaka's "Southern Draw", I'll agree with y'all in the fact that in the Manga her speech can be described as "Gansta" or "Hood" talk. However, in the defense of ADV Film, y'all know as well as I do that if they gave a white character a "Gansta" accent, Black People (or "African-Americans, so as not to offend anybody) all over the country would claim racism, just because she ain't black with the base of "They're stereotyping us! They?re saying we?re all stupid!? or some other bull $h!t. And knowing the America of today, they would win! ADV probably gave her the ?Southern Draw? to avoid a bunch of headaches and/or lawsuits.
PeanutSteak
01-13-2008, 03:05 AM
The worst dub that I heard of as of date ain't a whole series but of one character. The English voice of Mikuru Asahina. I swear, over half of the d@mn series, she sounded like a male impersonating a female voice. It was so bad, that I cried when I first heard her voice. :'(
As for Osaka's "Southern Draw", I'll agree with y'all in the fact that in the Manga her speech can be described as "Gansta" or "Hood" talk. However, in the defense of ADV Film, y'all know as well as I do that if they gave a white character a "Gansta" accent, Black People (or "African-Americans, so as not to offend anybody) all over the country would claim racism, just because she ain't black with the base of "They're stereotyping us! They?re saying we?re all stupid!? or some other bull $h!t. And knowing the America of today, they would win! ADV probably gave her the ?Southern Draw? to avoid a bunch of headaches and/or lawsuits.
The thing about the English voice of Mikuru Asahina is that it sounds almost the same as the Japanese, which in both circumstances sounds too high-pitched and girly to be believable.
The Southern drawl is used because she is from Osaka where people speak in a different dialect, the way that this is pulled off for the English dubs is usually by using a southern accent like with both Osaka as well as Kitsune from Love Hina. Although it's not really the best choice I guess it's just how they decided to portray a different Japanese accent.
Arden Jace
01-13-2008, 07:27 AM
You can make someone speaking in english sound like someone speaking in japanese. Not EXACTLY like them, but close enough so its not horrendous. >:( >:( ;D ;) :D
Yeah, but it's not worth it. By this I mean they shouldn't
I have seen that place before, its the training grounds for cadets.
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Doesn't surprised me that you've seen that place.
Anyway, I agree that there's some dubwork out there that could be better (the first few episodes of Elfen Lied weren't all that great, and all of Gundam Wing should be reworked) but that's not my point. My point is that it's pretty damn hard to make a character sound like he has the same voice in two different languages, and I'm personally grateful that dubbing companies don't bend over backwards trying to achieve this, as it's borderline absurd to attempt it.
The only real beef I've ever had with English dubwork is that there's not many people who actually work to dub anime, and thus you have a lot of characters in the English dub landscape who sound the same. For example: Kyon from Haruhi Suzumiya was voiced by the same guy who did Hideki Motosuwa from Chobits, and you can tell straightaway if you've seen one of the series and then watch the other. However, the English Kyon doesn't really sound much like the Japanese Kyon, but I don't really have a problem with it. The Japanese Kyon didn't really sound like a high schooler, if you ask me; the English Kyon sounded something a bit closer.
animefreak32046
01-13-2008, 11:37 PM
The only real beef I've ever had with English dubwork is that there's not many people who actually work to dub anime, and thus you have a lot of characters in the English dub landscape who sound the same. For example: Kyon from Haruhi Suzumiya was voiced by the same guy who did Hideki Motosuwa from Chobits, and you can tell straightaway if you've seen one of the series and then watch the other. However, the English Kyon doesn't really sound much like the Japanese Kyon, but I don't really have a problem with it. The Japanese Kyon didn't really sound like a high schooler, if you ask me; the English Kyon sounded something a bit closer.
And that's different from Sean Connery, Patric Stewart, Tom Cruise, or any other live action actor/actress playing multiple roles... How?
P.S. Sorry if I mispelled any names.
animefreak32046
01-13-2008, 11:51 PM
The thing about the English voice of Mikuru Asahina is that it sounds almost the same as the Japanese, which in both circumstances sounds too high-pitched and girly to be believable.
Well in that case, they should have voiced Wendy for Mikuru.
cheatmaster96
01-14-2008, 12:03 AM
even though this is my favorite anime 4kids has just slaughtered it one piece
Arden Jace
01-14-2008, 02:29 AM
And that's different from Sean Connery, Patric Stewart, Tom Cruise, or any other live action actor/actress playing multiple roles... How?
P.S. Sorry if I mispelled any names.
I never said the same effect didn't happen in American films. My point was that it's more noticeable in English-voiced anime because, let's face it, there's a lot less people dubbing anime than there are Hollywood actors. And I didn't mean to imply that I have a huge problem with it. It's the only issue I've ever had against English dubwork in anime, and it's a small one that's easy to overcome after a few episodes of whatever I'm watching.
And hell, there are some actors I can't watch or take seriously because I saw them in a certain role. After I saw Fight Club, I couldn't look at Helena Bonham Carter as anyone other than Marla Singer. Russell Crowe will always be Maximus from Gladiator, in my eyes. In the anime world, I had a hard time taking Akito Tenkawa seriously after having watched NGE; Spike Spencer voiced both Tenkawa from Martain Successor and Shinji Ikari from NGE.
</endrant>
Issitheus
08-01-2008, 11:54 PM
Lucky Star fails pretty epicly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or6zasDjMEI
Useful
08-02-2008, 12:05 AM
^ I... can't even watch more than a few seconds of that :'(. Well, I guess that decides whether I watch subs or dubs.
Actually, the subs or dubs choice rarely crosses my mind unless I've heard that the dubs are far above average (see Cowboy Bebob, Hellsing, or FMA). If it's below the threshold of "Obscenely Popular" in Japan, they don't bother getting anyone good for the dubs. I swear, they could double their marketability if they got mainstream Hollywood actors to do anime dubing like they do for Miyazaki films.
Marco_1989
08-02-2008, 12:08 AM
Alright. I already ranted about this in the Random Rants thread.
One Piece is pretty messed up. Not only the voices, but also all the changes they made. I'm so happy that I watch the Japanese version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkmxS8wWoms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq867EDm6U8&feature=related
In the second one, a girl rants about it. She is kinda weird but she is right. They even removed the cleavage from a women.. wtf? -.- And they remove cigars and cigarettes. And change a cigarette to a lolipop... What the... So no English voices, but crappy changes....
xexyzl
08-02-2008, 12:14 AM
It's not a terrible dub, but the new Bandai Gurren Lagann was one of my biggest disappointments of recent years. I was really looking forward to ADV's cast, they were some of my favorites, and when I heard they lost the license I went into denial.
Filleraol
08-02-2008, 12:19 AM
Alright. I already ranted about this in the Random Rants thread.
One Piece is pretty messed up. Not only the voices, but also all the changes they made. I'm so happy that I watch the Japanese version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkmxS8wWoms
DAMN, 0:30 scared the hell out of me. I barely heard the voice of the person who was talking so I turned up the volume high as hell...whoa
Anyway, I've always hated dubs, and the way they butchered One piece is so just wrong...and hilarious at the same time
Issitheus
08-02-2008, 12:21 AM
Azu and Lucky Star are enough to make me learn Japanese.
Useful
08-02-2008, 12:22 AM
It's not a terrible dub, but the new Bandai Gurren Lagann was one of my biggest disappointments of recent years.? I was really looking forward to ADV's cast, they were some of my favorites, and when I heard they lost the license I went into denial.
They did? Dang... that really DOES suck. Especially since these guys are getting better every time (the voice actors). The last I heard ADV had got it but I never got around to watching the dub anyway. How bad IS it?
Edit: Ignore me. This thread has been declared dead, I'll go figure it out myself.
S.ifr
08-02-2008, 12:25 AM
Why is this thread back...
WHY IS IT BACK?!?!?!?
Issitheus
08-02-2008, 12:26 AM
I needed to share the atrocity of Lucky Star.
Marco_1989
08-02-2008, 12:27 AM
Alright. I already ranted about this in the Random Rants thread.
One Piece is pretty messed up. Not only the voices, but also all the changes they made. I'm so happy that I watch the Japanese version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkmxS8wWoms
DAMN, 0:30 scared the hell out of me. I barely heard the voice of the person who was talking so I turned up the volume high as hell...whoa
Anyway, I've always hated dubs, and the way they butchered One piece is so just wrong...and hilarious at the same time
lol that part scared the **** out of me to. Had to put the volume up :P But watch the second vid. That is just part 1 of her rant. She is better than the first vid from that dude. And she is so right :P
I'll just post again:
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq867EDm6U8&
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKDvm3Fp8Ys&feature=related
I didn't watch part 2 myself yet, I will tomorrow. Gotta go. Later ^^
S.ifr
08-02-2008, 12:27 AM
I needed to share the atrocity of Lucky Star.
Thank you.
Useful
08-02-2008, 12:28 AM
Why is this thread back...
WHY IS IT BACK?!?!?!?
I don't know. It was a temporary thing really. It's Issitheus' fault, he started posting in it and I found I had something to say. I'm pretty sure it'll sink again after a day or so.
Actually, I'll kill it now:
THIS THREAD IS CLOSED. FOREVER.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/ItsAGanmen/Approval.png?t=1217632311
JediMaster80
08-02-2008, 12:58 AM
The Dubs for Blood + , Full Metal Panic!, and Mahou Sensei Negima were all Very Terrible. I Perfer the Subs over those Any Day.
Issitheus
08-02-2008, 12:59 AM
I agree. Let's keep this thread alive.
S.ifr
08-02-2008, 01:00 AM
Now to put the icing on the cake, someone make another thread on whether we should keep this one alive.
:P
Issitheus
08-02-2008, 01:01 AM
Okie dokey!
Useful
08-02-2008, 01:03 AM
I don't think anyone's THAT crazy... but I guess I agree: this thread has merit again because it's been dead for so long.
To add to the list, the original version of Nuasicaa was atrocious. They chopped out huge sections of it, deleted much of the environmental message, and even changed the title. Worst of all, Nausicaa was no longer even the main character. I don't think there has ever been a worse butchering of an anime, including 4Kids.
Issitheus
08-02-2008, 01:04 AM
I don't think anyone's THAT crazy...
Then I guess I'm not included in "anyone"... again... *sob*
abyssion1337
08-02-2008, 01:05 AM
we don't need this thread we all know what the worst english dub is *cough*one piece*cough*
Issitheus
08-02-2008, 01:06 AM
I disagree.
JediMaster80
08-02-2008, 01:07 AM
I've never seen One Piece, Subbed or Dubbed.
Filleraol
08-02-2008, 01:17 AM
Alright. I already ranted about this in the Random Rants thread.
One Piece is pretty messed up. Not only the voices, but also all the changes they made. I'm so happy that I watch the Japanese version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkmxS8wWoms
DAMN, 0:30 scared the hell out of me. I barely heard the voice of the person who was talking so I turned up the volume high as hell...whoa
Anyway, I've always hated dubs, and the way they butchered One piece is so just wrong...and hilarious at the same time
lol that part scared the **** out of me to. Had to put the volume up :P But watch the second vid. That is just part 1 of her rant. She is better than the first vid from that dude. And she is so right :P
I'll just post again:
I didn't watch part 2 myself yet, I will tomorrow. Gotta go. Later ^^
yeah I went to youtube and watched them, made me lol
Marco_1989
08-02-2008, 10:35 AM
yeah I went to youtube and watched them, made me lol
I watched the second part now. And she made me lol to. :P But she got a point. The edits are not necessary at all, and unprofessional. I mean, why would they remove the pole where Zora was tied up against.... Just because it looks like a CROSS?!! ... yeah.. -.- necessary .. And Nami's weapon, it was a cross but now just a stick .... And Luffy was in pain when he had to pull of a sucky stick think of his arm... I don't even know what its called. -.- 4:37min in the second movie I posted.
Filleraol
08-02-2008, 03:21 PM
yeah I went to youtube and watched them, made me lol
I watched the second part now. And she made me lol to. :P But she got a point. The edits are not necessary at all, and unprofessional. I mean, why would they remove the pole where Zora was tied up against.... Just because it looks like a CROSS?!! ... yeah.. -.- necessary .. And Nami's weapon, it was a cross but now just a stick .... And Luffy was in pain when he had to pull of a sucky stick think of his arm... I don't even know what its called. -.- 4:37min in the second movie I posted.
my favorite edit was the "racist" pic xD
that one was hilarious, and pissed me off at the same time
xexyzl
08-02-2008, 05:42 PM
The Dubs for Blood + , Full Metal Panic!, and Mahou Sensei Negima were all Very Terrible. I Perfer the Subs over those Any Day.
I prefer the dub over the sub Every Day.
abyssion1337
08-02-2008, 06:04 PM
The Dubs for Blood + , Full Metal Panic!, and Mahou Sensei Negima were all Very Terrible. I Perfer the Subs over those Any Day.
I prefer the dub over the sub Every Day.
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1412/disapprovalbm8.jpg
sorry had to borrow this
1337uvis
08-02-2008, 06:08 PM
The Dubs for Blood + , Full Metal Panic!, and Mahou Sensei Negima were all Very Terrible. I Perfer the Subs over those Any Day.
I prefer the dub over the sub Every Day.
let me double that -
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1412/disapprovalbm8.jpg
watching anime with subs has rendered me able to say some of the most primitive phrases of Japanese!
Marco_1989
08-02-2008, 06:11 PM
yeah I went to youtube and watched them, made me lol
I watched the second part now. And she made me lol to. :P But she got a point. The edits are not necessary at all, and unprofessional. I mean, why would they remove the pole where Zora was tied up against.... Just because it looks like a CROSS?!! ... yeah.. -.- necessary .. And Nami's weapon, it was a cross but now just a stick .... And Luffy was in pain when he had to pull of a sucky stick think of his arm... I don't even know what its called. -.- 4:37min in the second movie I posted.
my favorite edit was the "rasist" pic xD
that one was hilarious, and pissed me off at the same time
Yeah it was 'funny' .. in a way. But all edits are useless. Do you understand why they removed that tiny piece of Luffy's hat? I don't get that at all. Its Bull Sh!t..
I found this when I was at Youtube:
One Piece: Worst 4Kids Dub Moment #10 - Opening Theme & BGM
Some guy made some vids about the 10 worst 4kids dub moments. He had 10-3 I think, only 2 left. But here is #10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj4_YJm-hlg
Its about the opening song, and how 4Kids f**cked it up. If you don't know the original opening, then here it is. Its awesome ;D V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhitYori7SU
xexyzl
08-02-2008, 06:36 PM
The Dubs for Blood + , Full Metal Panic!, and Mahou Sensei Negima were all Very Terrible. I Perfer the Subs over those Any Day.
I prefer the dub over the sub Every Day.
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1412/disapprovalbm8.jpg
sorry had to borrow this
The Dubs for Blood + , Full Metal Panic!, and Mahou Sensei Negima were all Very Terrible. I Perfer the Subs over those Any Day.
I prefer the dub over the sub Every Day.
let me double that -
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1412/disapprovalbm8.jpg
watching anime with subs has rendered me able to say some of the most primitive phrases of Japanese!
Chris Patton, Luci Christian, Vic Mignogna, Allison Keith, Hilary Haag, Mike Kleinhenz (may he rest in peace), Mike McRae, Greg Ayres, Monica Rial: all stellar voice actors who came together for one of ADV's best dubs to date. You can take you Tomozookoh Slinky and you can shove it.
1337uvis
08-02-2008, 06:40 PM
ENGLISH ****S UP ANIME no matter if it was God himself/herself/itself (who the hell knows for sure?)
doing the voices in english, it still would sound... WRONG
SS_nyuu911_SS
08-02-2008, 06:42 PM
The Dubs for Blood + , Full Metal Panic!, and Mahou Sensei Negima were all Very Terrible. I Perfer the Subs over those Any Day.
I prefer the dub over the sub Every Day.
let me double that -
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1412/disapprovalbm8.jpg
watching anime with subs has rendered me able to say some of the most primitive phrases of Japanese!
Let me triple that.
(make belief seal of dispproval)
DUBS SUCK BALLS!
Marco_1989
08-02-2008, 06:44 PM
DUBS SUCK BALLS!
Yeah. That's right :P
I bet you guys just skipped my post for some reason so:
I found this when I was at Youtube:
One Piece: Worst 4Kids Dub Moment #10 - Opening Theme & BGM
Some guy made some vids about the 10 worst 4kids dub moments. He had 10-3 I think, only 2 left. But here is #10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj4_YJm-hlg
Its about the opening song, and how 4Kids f**cked it up. If you don't know the original opening, then here it is. Its awesome ;D V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhitYori7SU
Pink_Nipple
08-02-2008, 06:45 PM
DUBS SUCK BALLS!
+1000000
http://imgcash1.imageshack.us/img227/2069/83214870lk7.jpg
xexyzl
08-02-2008, 06:57 PM
I'm not even going to bother trying to argue, everyone in this thread seems to be dub-hating weaboos.
Chris Patton and Sousuke weep for you:
http://a943.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/39/l_cb5d323204d3a23149e55df6977e9406.jpg
1337uvis
08-02-2008, 06:58 PM
or maybe you're a dub-loving weaboo?
abyssion1337
08-02-2008, 07:01 PM
I'm not even going to bother trying to argue, everyone in this thread seems to be dub-hating weaboos.
I don't hate dubs, I just hate BAD which is most of them
Marco_1989
08-02-2008, 07:02 PM
I'm not even going to bother trying to argue, everyone in this thread seems to be dub-hating weaboos.
I'm not even going to bother trying to argue, everyone in this thread seems to be dub-hating weaboos.
I don't hate dubs, I just hate BAD which is most of them
I agree with the last quote. Most of the dubs are bad. But I like Dragonball/Z and GT, for example. And One Piece is really bad, but my post just got skipped ...
But everyone got his/her own opinion. Don't go argue about that ... ^^
DaMetzger
08-04-2008, 10:04 AM
Has anyone seen the Elfen Lied dub? I could only make myself watch 1 episode. After that I wanted to strangle the characters every single time they opened their mouths. Talk about a ****ty dub...
Issitheus
08-04-2008, 10:09 AM
Has anyone seen the Elfen Lied dub? I could only make myself watch 1 episode. After that I wanted to strangle the characters every single time they opened their mouths. Talk about a ****ty dub...
It was ADV. The same person that did Osaka did Nyuu. What do you expect?
xexyzl
08-04-2008, 05:48 PM
Has anyone seen the Elfen Lied dub? I could only make myself watch 1 episode. After that I wanted to strangle the characters every single time they opened their mouths. Talk about a ****ty dub...
It was ADV. The same person that did Osaka did Nyuu. What do you expect?
Despite my ADV love I must admit some of their actors make me want to strangle puppies.
Useful
08-04-2008, 05:55 PM
^ I... can't even watch more than a few seconds of that :'(. Well, I guess that decides whether I watch subs or dubs.
Actually, the subs or dubs choice rarely crosses my mind unless I've heard that the dubs are far above average (see Cowboy Bebob, Hellsing, or FMA). If it's below the threshold of "Obscenely Popular" in Japan, they don't bother getting anyone good for the dubs. I swear, they could double their marketability if they got mainstream Hollywood actors to do anime dubing like they do for Miyazaki films.
Apparently I need to quote myself. Yes, there are a good number of dubs out there that are pretty good. But they are almost without exception the most popular shows out there. So you end up with popular stuff like Rahxephon getting good dubs despite the fact that the plot is an exact lift of NGE, while stuff I'd like to see more, like Dokuro-chan, would never EVER get dubbed in a million years.
abyssion1337
08-04-2008, 08:05 PM
^ I... can't even watch more than a few seconds of that :'(. Well, I guess that decides whether I watch subs or dubs.
Actually, the subs or dubs choice rarely crosses my mind unless I've heard that the dubs are far above average (see Cowboy Bebob, Hellsing, or FMA). If it's below the threshold of "Obscenely Popular" in Japan, they don't bother getting anyone good for the dubs. I swear, they could double their marketability if they got mainstream Hollywood actors to do anime dubing like they do for Miyazaki films.
Apparently I need to quote myself. Yes, there are a good number of dubs out there that are pretty good. But they are almost without exception the most popular shows out there. So you end up with popular stuff like Rahxephon getting good dubs despite the fact that the plot is an exact lift of NGE, while stuff I'd like to see more, like Dokuro-chan, would never EVER get dubbed in a million years.
you don't need to quote yourself; I doubt anyone here is that stupid; I agree BTW, I hate people who swear by either dubs or subs, there's plenty of middle ground
DaMetzger
08-04-2008, 08:59 PM
I don't really hate dubs - some of them I found to be pretty good. But many are just really sub par and are ruining the greatness of the show.Anyway, I do prefer watching anime with original sound and QUALITY subtitles, as opposed to ****ty speed-subs. I've seen subs so bad, that even I could tell the translation was wrong, and I know only a couple japanese words...
So, to summarize: good subs and good dubs (unless I've seen the original first - then the dub makes everything sound out of place) should be praised when praise be deserved, but ****ty dubbers and ****ty subbers should burn in hell.
Luppi-tan
08-10-2008, 02:33 AM
I would have to say that the Naruto and Bleach dubs just... No. Just no. They both fail in my book, and the Elfen Lied anime is nothing like the manga. What's up with that. I've heard of making animes longer than mangas, but never shorter than mangas. What the hell!?
abyssion1337
08-10-2008, 04:31 AM
They make them shorter than mangas all the time, Hellsing comes to mind. also I didn't like the Elfen Lied dub, Kohta's voice sucked
1337uvis
08-10-2008, 04:59 AM
http://animeyume.com/blog/images/bleach_dub.jpg
sorry, hungover, don't really have anything to say.
Filleffs
08-10-2008, 05:16 AM
hangovers suck.
I always drink lots of milk, it works great for me
1337uvis
08-10-2008, 05:24 AM
no no, i just have to wait until the stores open at 9 o clock and get some beer, that'll do the trick, until then ill just zombie-mode.
Filleffs
08-10-2008, 05:27 AM
I've never tried curing a hangover with a little more alcohol, but people say it works.
Gotta try sometime
...
and..um..subs ftw!
abyssion1337
08-10-2008, 06:10 AM
the best things about subs is we can get them much faster than dubs, and does this thread remind anyone else of the last episode of zoku sayonara zetsubou sensei?
Filleffs
08-10-2008, 06:12 AM
I STILL haven't finished zoku sayonara . I really must watch it!
S.ifr
08-10-2008, 08:52 AM
Weren't we gonna let this thread die ?
Filleffs
08-10-2008, 11:34 AM
yeah we were....oh crap this isn't helping isn't it
S.ifr
08-10-2008, 11:35 AM
where's EFG ?
abyssion1337
08-11-2008, 12:00 AM
no one cares
S.ifr
08-11-2008, 12:15 AM
... I do.
abyssion1337
08-11-2008, 12:16 AM
he's dead(I hope)
S.ifr
08-11-2008, 12:18 AM
OH!
I see what you did there.
By EFG I didn't mean end of all things green..
abyssion1337
08-11-2008, 12:21 AM
yeah I know but he's not well liked, just ask Iss
S.ifr
08-11-2008, 12:25 AM
When he comes back..
abyssion1337
08-11-2008, 12:27 AM
actually where is he, I think I remember him saying something but I'm not sure
Issitheus
08-13-2008, 10:39 AM
I said, "**** you DaMetzger"
Zalis
08-13-2008, 11:13 AM
Azumanga Daioh. One of the worst dubs I have ever heard. Osaka has a southern drawl. WHY?!I think the idea was to establish a similar connection between the Japanese associations with Osaka (the city) and the American associations with the south (perhaps some sort of equivalency?). Personally, and I say this as a southerner myself, I liked it.
Even so, there's just no excuse for the bleeding horror that is Chiyo-chan's voiceover.
(And that, children, is why we have fansubs.)
Why does that necessitate fansubs? The DVDs from ADV do have the Japanese audio track and subtitles right along with that English dub.
Sorry to dredge this old quote up, but I just don't understand the "the only choices for watching anime are fansubs and English dubs" mentality that I see here and there.
Filleffs
08-13-2008, 11:37 AM
IMO because fansubs comes out faster and it's free
abyssion1337
08-13-2008, 06:10 PM
well that's one way subs are better but fansubers accuracy isn't perfect
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_TVVDdbRQQfg/SCxoGLN7v2I/AAAAAAAABFA/ChJGVhWCHjU/1196265381540.jpg
incidently I prefer subs
Issitheus
08-15-2008, 10:00 PM
Azumanga Daioh. One of the worst dubs I have ever heard. Osaka has a southern drawl. WHY?!I think the idea was to establish a similar connection between the Japanese associations with Osaka (the city) and the American associations with the south (perhaps some sort of equivalency?). Personally, and I say this as a southerner myself, I liked it.
Even so, there's just no excuse for the bleeding horror that is Chiyo-chan's voiceover.
(And that, children, is why we have fansubs.)
Why does that necessitate fansubs? The DVDs from ADV do have the Japanese audio track and subtitles right along with that English dub.
Sorry to dredge this old quote up, but I just don't understand the "the only choices for watching anime are fansubs and English dubs" mentality that I see here and there.
Technically they;re not subtitles for the Japanese language track, they're captions for the English language track. The captions say what the English dub says, not what the Japanese audio translates to. In some respects, it's just as bad as the dub.
But subs are FAR better with just about any anime. Haruhi was great, but they dubbed over the songs in episode 12, which I hated.
abyssion1337
08-16-2008, 01:28 AM
yeah the dub of the song SUCKED
nathan2302
11-24-2008, 09:05 PM
i dont usually watch dubbed animes but i have seen a few and the worst one is by far Love Hina, have you heard Keitaros voice in it? it is completely stupid.
abyssion1337
11-24-2008, 09:34 PM
well that's one way subs are better but fansubers accuracy isn't perfect
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_TVVDdbRQQfg/SCxoGLN7v2I/AAAAAAAABFA/ChJGVhWCHjU/1196265381540.jpg
incidently I prefer subs
I don't mind dubs and in fact love good dubs(cowboy bebop)
Issitheus
11-24-2008, 10:54 PM
well that's one way subs are better but fansubers accuracy isn't perfect
thus the creation of many, many motivationals, such as the all-powerful corm.
acutekat
11-25-2008, 02:14 AM
I hate the american dub for azumanga diaoh
Osaka's voice just grinded me the wrong way
i haven't even finished it yet
another reason is because i read the manga (manga FTW)
abyssion1337
11-25-2008, 04:23 AM
Nicolai from Luminous Arc (he made me want to rip my ears off)
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