[SleeplessPanda]

If that's true, I probably won't be coming out of my room for a week after I bring it home. Anyone else excited? =3

[Kaiju]

Yes. But it will also be totally different from both with a new engine and all.

With Oblivion they tried to go for a T rating, but it got pushed to M after a certain PC mod...
So with Skyrim, they are going full M with more violence, sexual themes, and the like. It won't be as bad as fallout, but it's still a farcry from Oblivion.

Fallout 3 offered Bethesda to experiment with their system, and in Skyrim they seem to have perfected that system.

Not only that, all of the other **** that Skyrim is bringing to the table will make my life, virtually non-existant. Even if it's just another Oblivion I will love and play the **** out of it.
But It's not...so there goes my Social Life on 11.11.11. Also I'm having a party then as well, Pizza ordered, a few two liters of Pizza, and my Collectors Edition of Skyrim I just finally paid off at my local Gamestop. :P

Also, Kongregate has a new Medal challenge in honor of Skyrim going on right now, which you have to get 18 badges from 18 different games to get this one, and bragging rights.
I already got the whole medal :P http://www.kongregate.com/accounts/LordKaiju

[talkanor]

i want skyrim so bad right now

[Guthix]

id probaly actualy buy it if my laptop could run it OTL

[Backmask]

Panda, you could have posted this in the Video Games Thread.

[Fishfreeek]

pfft panda, post things in an already existing thread? dont be silly.

and although Ill buy this game when it comes out, Im not waiting for it despretly and proberly wont lock myself up for weeks after it comes out

[SleeplessPanda]

pfft panda, post things in an already existing thread? dont be silly.

and although Ill buy this game when it comes out, Im not waiting for it despretly and proberly wont lock myself up for weeks after it comes out

You will be . . You WILL be . . >=3

[EvilestDeath]

1. Fallout 3 instead of Fallout New Vegas = outdated information and poor source.
2. More like Fallout 3 then Oblivion = an idiot since Fallout 3 is Oblivion with guns, there's no further gameplay difference.
3. Another of Panda's weekly threads = nothing important here, "move along folks nothing to see here."

[SleeplessPanda]

1. Fallout 3 instead of Fallout New Vegas = outdated information and poor source.
2. More like Fallout 3 then Oblivion = an idiot since Fallout 3 is Oblivion with guns, there's no further gameplay difference.
3. Another of Panda's weekly threads = nothing important here, "move along folks nothing to see here."

Actually you're wrong. A major reason it'll be more like Fallout 3 rather than Oblivion is it won't have Oblivion's system of leveling enemies to your level. It'll be like in Fallout 3 where different areas have different levels of enemies, not to mention a few other things, so . . . hmm', yeah, you're wrong on that one.

[SleeplessPanda]

Also I don't see what makes you so special that you think you can talk down to me.

[EvilestDeath]

Actually you're wrong. A major reason it'll be more like Fallout 3 rather than Oblivion is it won't have Oblivion's system of leveling enemies to your level. It'll be like in Fallout 3 where different areas have different levels of enemies, not to mention a few other things, so . . . hmm', yeah, you're wrong on that one.

Kind of like Fallout New Vegas? (Point #1. sustained but proven inaccurate. See sources below.)

Would have helped if you sort of put that in the body of your first message instead of putting a general statement and not following through with any supporting evidence until questioned. Even if you have the information completely backwards. At least gave some supporting evidence to your claim, sources (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Elder-Scrolls-V-Skyrim-Will-Use-Fallout-3-Like-Enemy-Leveling-177526.shtml) nigga sources! (http://www.vg247.com/2011/01/08/bethesda-clarifies-skyrims-enemy-level-scaling-feature/) That's how real men report the news. (Point #2 withdrawn.)


Also I don't see what makes you so special that you think you can talk down to me.
....^^^ (Point #3. Confirmed. Just another weekly Panda thread, nothing to see here move along.)

To answer your statement/question, I believe it is my inflated ego that makes me special and allows me to think I can talk down to you. Yeah, I am about 100% sure that's the reason.

[SleeplessPanda]

The bottom line is my statement was fairly correct, and it didn't need a bunch of facts to back it up. I never claimed to know all the details, which is why I said "if that's true". I made that statement going on what I've heard from different sources concerning the game, and yes, Fallout 3 + New Vegas use the same enemy leveling system, I was just saying Fallout 3 to save time. I didn't say it'd be EXACTLY like those games, but it'd be more similar to those compared to Oblivion, which was an accurate statement so would you kindly find something better to do with your time rather than over analyzing what everyone says and continually trying to make yourself look smart, because THAT'S more annoying than "another one of my weekly threads".

[Kaiju]

I actually enjoy Panda's weekly threads. :<
Not so much people making themselves look smart....

[LOLWTFBBQ]

Fallout New Vegas wasnt actually developed by the same studio as Fallout 3.... and Skyrim will have a brand new engine, so that might be the biggest difference from Oblivion

either way, Im glad I preordered my copy, I get the free map too! until then I have BF3 to keep me happy.

[EvilestDeath]

I enjoy when people report findings accurately or at least know what they are talking about. No use in saying something then changing the subject before explaining what was meant especially if you don't know what your talking about.

But more importantly, I am really not sure where this petty statement of me trying to look smart came from, I am about half a retard I will lay that down on the table right now but you panda are full blown retard. If I wanted to sound smart I would whip out the dictionary and get creative with my language as well as point out grammar and spelling errors abound. Very good try sneaking that in there and I even see that you have convinced at least one person that I am trying to sound smart but no, I am just trying to get some god damn information here instead of two statements that are confusing without more details. Which is extreamly annoying to see on a weekly basis.

But overall this is a obscure part of the net, do you think anyone including myself has anything better to do hanging around here then to try and get someone to stop acting like an idiot? (The answer should be no since you and I are doing the very thing to each other right now.) So shut up unless you have something worthwhile to say and I will do the same. Deal? :D

[EvilestDeath]

In short, this...

pfft panda, post things in an already existing thread? dont be silly.
Referring to this...

Because from now on I'm putting all my thoughts, comments, etc, RIGHT HERE! This thread will be your #1 source for everything and anything SleeplessPanda related. Also feel free to post your own thoughts/comments/etc, or perhaps play some word games or share amusing internet videos you've seen. My thread is your thread, because I luv' you. <3Found here. (http://amvhell.com/showthread.php?t=3450)

[Kaiju]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/newsfeed/000/163/032/Abandon+thread+gorilla+READ+DESCRIPTION+OK+EVERYON E+JUST+READ+THIS_b3bd49_1584652.gif?1318992465

[EvilestDeath]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/newsfeed/000/096/451/disaster-girl%20just%20as%20planned.png?1318992465

[SleeplessPanda]

In short, this...

Referring to this...
Found here. (http://amvhell.com/showthread.php?t=3450)

People stopped paying attention to that thread, it was too much work for them to check in on it when they didn't know if there'd be anything interesting or not. Brand new threads with titles describing what they're about grab people's attentions more. And once again, you're proving my point, you're trying to make yourself look all smart and act like the forums here on AMV Hell are serious business. Like I said, you REALLY don't have anything better to do rather than starting huge debates over things that don't even matter? No one forced you to come into this thread and start picking apart everything I say, and no one forced you to keep track of my history on this site. I'm just trying to be social and have a good time like everyone else here, you're just trying to start fights and make yourself feel good by making others feel like they're doing something wrong by wanting to talk about what's on their minds. In conclusion, if ya' dun' like mah' threads than ya' can GIT' OUT!

[Guthix]

well the reason stoped payin attension is probably because you diidnt post enouth yerself :sweatdrop: i mean thers like 4 more posts besides your last one in the last page

[SleeplessPanda]

well the reason stoped payin attension is probably because you diidnt post enouth yerself :sweatdrop: i mean thers like 4 more posts besides your last one in the last page

The point is people would rather start their own threads instead of starting new conversations in mine. I too would personally like to just make new threads when I need to, it's what everyone else does so why shouldn't I? People started to rage ages ago about how many threads I was making daily, and after all that time I now MAYBE make ONE new thread once a week, and there's still people who think that's too many. One or two threads a day wasn't spam, one bloody thread a WEEK isn't spam, if there's still people who have a problem with me wanting to say something now and then, well they can just stick their feet in their mouths and shut up because I contribute very much to AMV Hell and I deserve to be able to post whatever I want within the rules. HMMF'.

[Guthix]

oi oi oi dont get me involved i made only like 1-2 threads n they sank so deep id need a gps to find it

[SleeplessPanda]

oi oi oi dont get me involved i made only like 1-2 threads n they sank so deep id need a gps to find it

Oh, I wasn't getting annoyed at you, I was just sort of ranting to myself. =3

[EvilestDeath]

People stopped paying attention to that thread, it was too much work for them to check in on it when they didn't know if there'd be anything interesting or not. Brand new threads with titles describing what they're about grab people's attentions more. And once again, you're proving my point, you're trying to make yourself look all smart and act like the forums here on AMV Hell are serious business. Like I said, you REALLY don't have anything better to do rather than starting huge debates over things that don't even matter? No one forced you to come into this thread and start picking apart everything I say, and no one forced you to keep track of my history on this site. I'm just trying to be social and have a good time like everyone else here, you're just trying to start fights and make yourself feel good by making others feel like they're doing something wrong by wanting to talk about what's on their minds. In conclusion, if ya' dun' like mah' threads than ya' can GIT' OUT!

"BAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWW" - SleeplessPanda

You spam the forums, I will spam your pointless threads. All of them.

[SleeplessPanda]

I'm baaawing'? No, but you're trolling, and debating with you is getting really boring. I just find it hilarious, that you find me making one weekly thread in the off topic forum (if I feel I need to), to be spamming. Either you have no idea what you're talking about, or you're trolling. There's people on this site who post a lot more than I do, why don't you go bother them? Because I'm not going to entertain you anymore, you're dull and have nothing meaningful to say. You go on and have your last word, I know it'll make you feel special.

[Backmask]

I'm baaawing'? No, but you're trolling, and debating with you is getting really boring. I just find it hilarious, that you find me making one weekly thread in the off topic forum (if I feel I need to), to be spamming. Either you have no idea what you're talking about, or you're trolling. There's people on this site who post a lot more than I do, why don't you go bother them? Because I'm not going to entertain you anymore, you're dull and have nothing meaningful to say. You go on and have your last word, I know it'll make you feel special.

Key word, they POST.

When you post in a thread, you contribute to the thread's conversation/idea. When you make a thread about a question that could have been answered in another thread, you aren't contributing to anything. You are preventing the contribution to a thread. This stops any possible conversations of any sort which that question could have brought. To add on, you should consider how imperious the question is. This question in particular wasn't very important and the information could have been gathered in a few minutes with help from Google. Sure, we get the occasional "Source on this?" thread, but those are generally made individually once, and the "source" is generally about a song/anime, which keeps to the theme of this website. Your threads, on the other hand, aren't generally within the theme of this website and are more appropriate for Facebook.

In short,
-One individual posting in a thread= Good
-One individual making threads in a manner similar to posting in a thread= Bad
-AMV Hell is not your personal blog.

[SleeplessPanda]

Key word, they POST.

When you post in a thread, you contribute to the thread's conversation/idea. When you make a thread about a question that could have been answered in another thread, you aren't contributing to anything. You are preventing the contribution to a thread. This stops any possible conversations of any sort which that question could have brought. To add on, you should consider how imperious the question is. This question in particular wasn't very important and the information could have been gathered in a few minutes with help from Google. Sure, we get the occasional "Source on this?" thread, but those are generally made individually once, and the "source" is generally about a song/anime, which keeps to the theme of this website. Your threads, on the other hand, aren't generally within the theme of this website and are more appropriate for Facebook.

In short,
-One individual posting in a thread= Good
-One individual making threads in a manner similar to posting in a thread= Bad
-AMV Hell is not your personal blog.

And ONCE again I must say that I MAYBE make one new thread a week, in the off-topic forum where they belong. By doing this, who am I hurting? I'm not breaking any rules, I no longer make multiple threads daily, why should you even give a **** if once a week I decide to make a thread about something that interests me? Can you honestly give me one good reason why making one thread a week, or maybe one every TWO weeks, is making this site somehow worse? You can't, there is no logical reasons to get on my back about it, you're just trying to find something to complain about. You're not going to convince me I'm somehow doing wrong, I KNOW I'm in the right on this, so logically you should just not bring it up again because I'm considering this matter officially closed.

[Backmask]

And ONCE again I must say that I MAYBE make one new thread a week, in the off-topic forum where they belong. By doing this, who am I hurting? I'm not breaking any rules, I no longer make multiple threads daily, why should you even give a **** if once a week I decide to make a thread about something that interests me? Can you honestly give me one good reason why making one thread a week, or maybe one every TWO weeks, is making this site somehow worse? You can't, there is no logical reasons to get on my back about it, you're just trying to find something to complain about. You're not going to convince me I'm somehow doing wrong, I KNOW I'm in the right on this, so logically you should just not bring it up again because I'm considering this matter officially closed.

Wow, and here I thought our pal SchizophrenicPanda matured a bit, however; his "I'm right, you're wrong. End of story. LAH LAH LAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" argument proves otherwise.

1. The whole "I'm not breaking rules" thing doesn't mean crap in terms of arguements. If you are invited to a house party and the host made dinner for everybody, are you going to throw the food at everybody, piss in every bodies beverage, and start naming of reasons as to why Creationists are stupid? You aren't. It's called 'common courtesy'. It's best to stop doing something if it become a nuisance to everybody else.

2. I've said this before, Autism McNeurodevelopmental Disorder. The threads you make are generally better suited to be placed into one of the many threads on this site. Most, if not, all of your threads fit into at least ONE thread. Hell, you even had your own thread for all of your stuff at one point, but as you said, you don't post their because nobody is paying attention to you. We call people like you 'Attentionwhores'. Here is a nice site for you. It's full of people just like you. (http://www.facebook.com/)

3. I never said that your threads have made this site worse. I said that your threads would be better off posted in a previously existing thread. Let's put it this way: Let's take every post in the "Coolest Thing of the Day" thread. Now let's make a thread for each individual post in said thread once a week. Do you understand how annoying that would be?

If we have a thread called "The Coolest Thing of the Day", then why make a thread along the lines of "Look at this cool thing that happened to me today :D"?
If we have a thread called "The Video Games Thread", then why make a thread along the lines of "Hey I have a question about a video game"?

[SleeplessPanda]

Jesus Christ, you're not even making sense anymore. You're comparing making a thread on an off topic forum to acting like a bloody mental patient at someone's party? I'm not mature because I wanted to end this stupid debate? I'm disturbing everyone on this site when it's only you and Death' that complain? I got busy and didn't post anything for like a month, and there were people wondering what happened to me and saying they missed my threads. How many? A couple. A couple isn't much? Well there's only a couple people (two) who don't like my threads, and everyone else just doesn't care because it's not a big deal, it's-not-a-big-deal, yet you and Death' have a hard on for me and feel like you have to come in here and talk down to me and try to make me feel like I'm breaking all these unwritten rules. Grow the **** up already, this is getting really ridiculous. I don't care if you call me "immature" for wanting to end this debate, I'm ending it, right now, I've said all I can say about this, and if you still don't get it, then go take a hike.

[EvilestDeath]

I'm baaawing'? No, but you're trolling, and debating with you is getting really boring. I just find it hilarious, that you find me making one weekly thread in the off topic forum (if I feel I need to), to be spamming. Either you have no idea what you're talking about, or you're trolling. There's people on this site who post a lot more than I do, why don't you go bother them? Because I'm not going to entertain you anymore, you're dull and have nothing meaningful to say. You go on and have your last word, I know it'll make you feel special.

"BAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" - SleeplessPanda 2 for 2 keep it up.

There was one thing in there that actually brings up something worth mentioning. I have bothered a few people but they smarten up. Hell Backmask over here was a target not but a few months ago but he proved he can't be messed with quickly, I salute him and his ways.

[EvilestDeath]

Wow, and here I thought our pal SchizophrenicPanda matured a bit, however; his "I'm right, you're wrong. End of story. LAH LAH LAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" argument proves otherwise...

...If we have a thread called "The Coolest Thing of the Day", then why make a thread along the lines of "Look at this cool thing that happened to me today :D"?
If we have a thread called "The Video Games Thread", then why make a thread along the lines of "Hey I have a question about a video game"?
Yup, this is what I'm talking about. Dudes got mad reasoning, tis why hes my buddy. Had to back away from this one. Still, very true very true.

Jesus Christ, you're not even making sense anymore. You're comparing making a thread on an off topic forum to acting like a bloody mental patient at someone's party? I'm not mature because I wanted to end this stupid debate? I'm disturbing everyone on this site when it's only you and Death' that complain? I got busy and didn't post anything for like a month, and there were people wondering what happened to me and saying they missed my threads. How many? A couple. A couple isn't much? Well there's only a couple people (two) who don't like my threads, and everyone else just doesn't care because it's not a big deal, it's-not-a-big-deal, yet you and Death' have a hard on for me and feel like you have to come in here and talk down to me and try to make me feel like I'm breaking all these unwritten rules. Grow the **** up already, this is getting really ridiculous. I don't care if you call me "immature" for wanting to end this debate, I'm ending it, right now, I've said all I can say about this, and if you still don't get it, then go take a hike.
"BAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" - SleeplessPanda (And its 1, 2, 3 strikes your out at the old BAAAWWWWWW game.)

[jinzo64]

omg i go away for like 2 days and you start acting children.
first you all have valid arguments because they were about the thread topic
then it just devolves in to pointless bickering.

but on the subject
yes skyrim will be more like fallout 3 and new vegas then oblivion
still not sure about getting it as it's so big but maybe one day.

p.s
don't care that i restated whats been said
and realy don't care if you people like my spelling or grammer
so
http://www.anivide.com/thumb/c344.jpg

[EvilestDeath]

omg i go away for like 2 days and you start acting children.
first you all have valid arguments because they were about the thread topic
then it just devolves in to pointless bickering.
Welcome to the internet.
or
Doin what we do best.

I am not sure what fits the best here.

[mattroks101]

Kind of like Fallout New Vegas? (Point #1. sustained but proven inaccurate. See sources below.)

Would have helped if you sort of put that in the body of your first message instead of putting a general statement and not following through with any supporting evidence until questioned. Even if you have the information completely backwards. At least gave some supporting evidence to your claim, sources (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Elder-Scrolls-V-Skyrim-Will-Use-Fallout-3-Like-Enemy-Leveling-177526.shtml) nigga sources! (http://www.vg247.com/2011/01/08/bethesda-clarifies-skyrims-enemy-level-scaling-feature/) That's how real men report the news. (Point #2 withdrawn.)


....^^^ (Point #3. Confirmed. Just another weekly Panda thread, nothing to see here move along.)

To answer your statement/question, I believe it is my inflated ego that makes me special and allows me to think I can talk down to you. Yeah, I am about 100% sure that's the reason.

Just keep on trolling.

[EvilestDeath]

Just keep on trolling.

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.ch/7/75/Trolls_everywhere.gif (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3My4MHr51c)
Click it ^

[jinzo64]

poor panda people trolling him.
it just ain't nice.

[Guthix]

poor panda people trolling him.
it just ain't nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyzyOnOh9A8&feature=related

[SleeplessPanda]

poor panda people trolling him.
it just ain't nice.

I'm still not 100% sure they WERE trolling, I think since they failed to out debate me, they resorted to saying they were just trolling to save face. ;)

[jinzo64]

^probably anything is possable on this site.

[Backmask]

I'm still not 100% sure they WERE trolling, I think since they failed to out debate me, they resorted to saying they were just trolling to save face. ;)

1. "they": EvilestDeath said he was trolling. I never said I was trolling. It's more of a "an individual said they were trolling". And guess what? I wasn't trolling.
2. "They failed to out debate me": Really? You really think that you weren't 'out debated'? If we were to go back, look, and analyze the quarrel, we would see that I would bring up, you know, ACTUAL ARGUMENTS. You on the other hand, would just say a variation of the phrase "That doesn't make sense", then you would say any sort of phrase that meant "I'm right, you're wrong, IMNOTLISTINING!" about eight times. Then you'd dodge any question that is thrown your way. I say this to a lot of people, but you REALLY need to change your argument style.

Your argument style is that of an adolescent who can't admit when he is wrong. The whole thing were you just say "that doesn't make sense" without any form of justification just makes you appear to be, for lack of a better term, stupid, then you add "I'm right, your wrong," without any form of justification, which really just makes you an immature man-child.

However, you are the type of person to disregard something that works against you and you don't acknowledge the fact that you've been bested in the argument.

[SleeplessPanda]

1. "they": EvilestDeath said he was trolling. I never said I was trolling. It's more of a "an individual said they were trolling". And guess what? I wasn't trolling.
2. "They failed to out debate me": Really? You really think that you weren't 'out debated'? If we were to go back, look, and analyze the quarrel, we would see that I would bring up, you know, ACTUAL ARGUMENTS. You on the other hand, would just say a variation of the phrase "That doesn't make sense", then you would say any sort of phrase that meant "I'm right, you're wrong, IMNOTLISTINING!" about eight times. Then you'd dodge any question that is thrown your way. I say this to a lot of people, but you REALLY need to change your argument style.

Your argument style is that of an adolescent who can't admit when he is wrong. The whole thing were you just say "that doesn't make sense" without any form of justification just makes you appear to be, for lack of a better term, stupid, then you add "I'm right, your wrong," without any form of justification, which really just makes you an immature man-child.

However, you are the type of person to disregard something that works against you and you don't acknowledge the fact that you've been bested in the argument.

Personally I think I brought up many good points on why you and Death' were wrong and how you were just complaining for the sake of complaining, your "out of control insane party guest" argument proved how warped your idea of "forum etiquette" was. Your obsession with calling me "autistic", "child", "stupid", just shows your own lack of intelligence. That's why I didn't want to debate this anymore, you're blind to how illogical you're acting. Throwing insults at me isn't enough to prove you're right. If anyone's a "immature man-child" here, it's you for not knowing when to quit. I don't care if you're butt hurt over being bested by someone you consider to be mentally challenged somehow, if you're REALLY the super mature smart person you say you are, you would've moved on by now. You would've said to yourself "this person isn't worth my time, they can't debate, they don't know what they're talking about", but you haven't, because you KNOW I've crushed your arguments OVER and OVER again, and it just tears you up inside doesn't it? If you want to keep debating this I'll humor you, but you're only going to make yourself look worse.

[Backmask]

Personally I think I brought up many good points on why you and Death' were wrong and how you were just complaining for the sake of complaining

What? You never did. You just brought up MANY mindless assumptions.


, your "out of control insane party guest" argument proved how warped your idea of "forum etiquette" was.

The argument was to combat your ridiculous, "I'm not breaking any rules.". The whole point of it was that just because the there are no rules against it, there are implied boundaries. Plus, your statement "Proved how warped your idea of "forum etiquette" was" is just ignorant. How is the idea of posting thoughts in the proper thread instead of making a thread about said thoughts twisted?


Your obsession with calling me "autistic", "child", "stupid", just shows your own lack of intelligence. That's why I didn't want to debate this anymore, you're blind to how illogical you're acting.
Throwing insults at me isn't enough to prove you're right.

I have been shooting down all of your "arguments" by using actual arguments. I haven't been making blatant statements about how I don't understand what you've just said, then continue to say that I'm right and you are wrong. And let us look at the insults examples:

Child: This is based off of your childish argument style. Now let us think for a moment. Anybody can lie about their age on the internet, so how am I supposed to know that you are really an adult? Calling you a child in general is fair play.
Stupid: You are correct, this is an insult.
Autistic: Your arguments are very repetitive, your interactions with ANY form of negetive feedback is usually, "TROLL!". Hmmm.... Repetitive behavior and impaired social skills? Sounds like autism.

That's 1/3 actual, unjustified insults.


If anyone's a "immature man-child" here, it's you for not knowing when to quit. I don't care if you're butt hurt over being bested by someone you consider to be mentally challenged somehow, if you're REALLY the super mature smart person you say you are, you would've moved on by now.

If you claim that you are so mature, then why are you still "arguing" against me? Your hypocrisy is just amazing.


You would've said to yourself "this person isn't worth my time, they can't debate, they don't know what they're talking about", but you haven't, because you KNOW I've crushed your arguments OVER and OVER again,

I've already stated about how ignorant you are AND how you can't debate, so this just proves that you aren't even reading my posts.


and it just tears you up inside doesn't it? If you want to keep debating this I'll humor you, but you're only going to make yourself look worse.

And now we are back to the adolescent's favorite argument, "I'm right, your wrong". It's one of those arguments where you use it when you WANT to be right, but you are sure as hell that you a wrong. It's the equivalent of saying, "If you say anything to defend yourself after this, I win". Although, I should keep in mind that I'm arguing with a person who thinks that most of the negative feedback he gets is from trolls.

[SleeplessPanda]

This debate has boiled down to "you're wrong, I'm right" on both sides, and I've made a thread to put an end to this once and for all. You're welcome to voice your opinion in it.

[Guthix]

i say let the mother****er burn

[jinzo64]

i say backmask just likes getting under peoples skin.

[EvilestDeath]

1. "they": EvilestDeath said he was trolling. I never said I was trolling. It's more of a "an individual said they were trolling". And guess what? I wasn't trolling.

I never said I was trolling here. Mat said I was. I just put a picture and video up to illustrate his comment. No trolling on my end. I am not trying to make Panda angry just to piss him off, I am trying to tell panda hes an idiot...mission accomplished.

(No not stupid or retarded, I am not saying I am above this kid or anything. I am saying "idiot" as in him making choices that are not thought through well enough to be rational or useful.) Insults are petty, no use for name calling.


i say backmask just likes getting under peoples skin.
Not quite, he just likes people to think with there heads. The dudes right pretty much all the time. Here he has been completely correct with his statements, like usual.

[jinzo64]

i know hes normaly right
also shouldn't people be thinking with there brains:D

[SleeplessPanda]

Backmask was correct with all his statements? Completely 100% opinion. A lot of the things he claimed I was an idiot for doing, he was doing as well. You could claim that both of us weren't debating very well, and I'd have to agree with that since I wasn't putting my full effort into it, but to say he somehow was saying things that were much different and more correct than what I was saying is just not true. If you really want me to go back and take apart every single sentence he's said to prove they were just as flawed and opinionated as my arguments, I will, I'll get drunk as a skunk and I'll waste a couple hours over analyzing every-last-one of his statements. I really don't want to, I'd rather be doing something else, but if it'd shut you two up and prove "ah' cain' use mah' brain derpy' derp'", I'll do it, for science, you monster.

[Diclonius]

waiting for umvc3, skullgirls, soul calibur 5, dead or alive 5, and ninja gaiden 3
all comming in the next couple months

[SleeplessPanda]

waiting for umvc3, skullgirls, soul calibur 5, dead or alive 5, and ninja gaiden 3
all comming in the next couple months

I bought the first Marvel VS Capcom 3, and now I feel cheated they're coming out with another version when it hasn't even been a year. Now if I want the TRUE version I have to pay another $60. Not worth it, Capcom can go screw itself for trying to cheat its fans.

[jinzo64]

does anyone know how much the special edition version of skyrim is going to cost.

panda you don't need to go and over analyse backs posts it would be waste of your time and energy.

[EvilestDeath]

Backmask was correct with all his statements? Completely 100% opinion. A lot of the things he claimed I was an idiot for doing, he was doing as well. You could claim that both of us weren't debating very well, and I'd have to agree with that since I wasn't putting my full effort into it, but to say he somehow was saying things that were much different and more correct than what I was saying is just not true. If you really want me to go back and take apart every single sentence he's said to prove they were just as flawed and opinionated as my arguments, I will, I'll get drunk as a skunk and I'll waste a couple hours over analyzing every-last-one of his statements. I really don't want to, I'd rather be doing something else, but if it'd shut you two up and prove "ah' cain' use mah' brain derpy' derp'", I'll do it, for science, you monster.

Backmast correct = yes

100% opinion = someone needs to get a little introspective because the swing sways both ways.

Claim you both weren't debating very well = would if it wasn't so one sided (Backmask's side)

Prove Back's opinionated = yes please do, it will be interesting seeing.

...for science = FOR GREAT JUSTICE!!!

[Diclonius]

Ultimate marvel is $40
take this into account
if they released everything in ultimate as dlc say 6 packs of 2 chars at $10 each theres $60, the new stages lets say they give u a deal and give u all the new ones for say $5, and the mass amount of time it would take to download and implement the sweeping game rebalance that ultimate brought, and the waiting between releases for each of these u are getting a great deal at $40

[Lionforce1337]

I'll be getting Skyrim, but not on release day. <---Lack of money.
Thankfully Dark Souls provides enough entertainment for me till then.

[Evo-Sennin]

does anyone know how much the special edition version of skyrim is going to cost.

panda you don't need to go and over analyse backs posts it would be waste of your time and energy.

It's ~160? at my region

I'm going for the regular version on release day. Only a week more:sweatdrop:

[Kaiju]

does anyone know how much the special edition version of skyrim is going to cost.

panda you don't need to go and over analyse backs posts it would be waste of your time and energy.

The Skyrim's collectors edition in the US costs around $150.00, it contains a badass Dragon figure (which is a good quality collectible according to figure collectors) a 200 Page Artbook featuring amazing concept art for Skyrim, The Game itself, a Making Of disk, A MAP, and a big ass box.
There is also the Soundtrack coming out as well, and if you preorder it by December 23rd (when it comes out) you get your soundtrack AUTOGRAPHED BY JEREMY SOULE. And that's around $30.00.

I'm getting both, and after adding the Soundtrack to my ITunes Library, I'll frame it. :)

[regnier]

I'm getting the collectors edition and i have been able to have the 11-12-13 off from work :D i wont get out of my room for at least the first day. i will only eat pizza and drink water and have a big empty bottle for when i need to pee

[Kaiju]

I just finished paying off my Collector's Edition today.
God, I cannot WAIT for Next Week.

[SleeplessPanda]

Backmast correct = yes

100% opinion = someone needs to get a little introspective because the swing sways both ways.

Claim you both weren't debating very well = would if it wasn't so one sided (Backmask's side)

Prove Back's opinionated = yes please do, it will be interesting seeing.

...for science = FOR GREAT JUSTICE!!!

Despite people suggesting I should ignore you and not do this since it's not worth my time . . challenge accepted.

[SleeplessPanda]

Panda, you could have posted this in the Video Games Thread.

I could've, but I didn't. My bad.

[SleeplessPanda]

Key word, they POST.

When you post in a thread, you contribute to the thread's conversation/idea. When you make a thread about a question that could have been answered in another thread, you aren't contributing to anything. You are preventing the contribution to a thread. This stops any possible conversations of any sort which that question could have brought. To add on, you should consider how imperious the question is. This question in particular wasn't very important and the information could have been gathered in a few minutes with help from Google. Sure, we get the occasional "Source on this?" thread, but those are generally made individually once, and the "source" is generally about a song/anime, which keeps to the theme of this website. Your threads, on the other hand, aren't generally within the theme of this website and are more appropriate for Facebook.

In short,
-One individual posting in a thread= Good
-One individual making threads in a manner similar to posting in a thread= Bad
-AMV Hell is not your personal blog.

While I will agree with you that people should put more of an effort into contributing to threads that already exist instead of making new ones (unless the thread they're making is about a very specific subject), my threads ARE within the general theme of this website as proven by recent studies:

http://amvhell.com/showthread.php?t=6057

[SleeplessPanda]

Wow, and here I thought our pal SchizophrenicPanda matured a bit, however; his "I'm right, you're wrong. End of story. LAH LAH LAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" argument proves otherwise.

1. The whole "I'm not breaking rules" thing doesn't mean crap in terms of arguements. If you are invited to a house party and the host made dinner for everybody, are you going to throw the food at everybody, piss in every bodies beverage, and start naming of reasons as to why Creationists are stupid? You aren't. It's called 'common courtesy'. It's best to stop doing something if it become a nuisance to everybody else.

2. I've said this before, Autism McNeurodevelopmental Disorder. The threads you make are generally better suited to be placed into one of the many threads on this site. Most, if not, all of your threads fit into at least ONE thread. Hell, you even had your own thread for all of your stuff at one point, but as you said, you don't post their because nobody is paying attention to you. We call people like you 'Attentionwhores'. Here is a nice site for you. It's full of people just like you. (http://www.facebook.com/)

3. I never said that your threads have made this site worse. I said that your threads would be better off posted in a previously existing thread. Let's put it this way: Let's take every post in the "Coolest Thing of the Day" thread. Now let's make a thread for each individual post in said thread once a week. Do you understand how annoying that would be?

If we have a thread called "The Coolest Thing of the Day", then why make a thread along the lines of "Look at this cool thing that happened to me today :D"?
If we have a thread called "The Video Games Thread", then why make a thread along the lines of "Hey I have a question about a video game"?

@First paragraph: You're right, I should've put more effort into proving my point.

@Second paragraph: Extremely bad comparison, especially when the "host of the party", in this case the majority of AMV Hell's user base, would be fine with me acting the way I do, though not in the way you put it.

@Third paragraph: You suggested I'm making this site worse by going out of your way on multiple occasions to tell me to stop making so many threads, but that's my opinion, so technically you've never said I'm making the site worse. Also, I personally wouldn't be annoyed if the site's forums turned into something more similar to a social site, but the majority of people here would like to keep things tame, as in trying to keep thread posting to one a day and making it not pointless, which is what I've been doing and people agree with me on that.

@Fourth paragraph: Point made.

Edit: I missed the part where you were calling me an attention whore. To that I say, that's your opinion, and I don't agree with it.

[SleeplessPanda]

1. "they": EvilestDeath said he was trolling. I never said I was trolling. It's more of a "an individual said they were trolling". And guess what? I wasn't trolling.
2. "They failed to out debate me": Really? You really think that you weren't 'out debated'? If we were to go back, look, and analyze the quarrel, we would see that I would bring up, you know, ACTUAL ARGUMENTS. You on the other hand, would just say a variation of the phrase "That doesn't make sense", then you would say any sort of phrase that meant "I'm right, you're wrong, IMNOTLISTINING!" about eight times. Then you'd dodge any question that is thrown your way. I say this to a lot of people, but you REALLY need to change your argument style.

Your argument style is that of an adolescent who can't admit when he is wrong. The whole thing were you just say "that doesn't make sense" without any form of justification just makes you appear to be, for lack of a better term, stupid, then you add "I'm right, your wrong," without any form of justification, which really just makes you an immature man-child.

However, you are the type of person to disregard something that works against you and you don't acknowledge the fact that you've been bested in the argument.

@1 - I apologize for assuming you were trolling when you were trying to prove I was wrong by suggesting the site's etiquette does not fit my style of posting/thread creating. You made those claims without knowing how people really felt though, and as recently proved, this site's etiquette actually DOES reflect my style.

@2 - Was I trying to dodge some questions? I would say . . no, since I was ignoring them due to my opinion that they seemed like stupid questions, but I should've answered them anyway. Were you using "actual arguments"? Well I'd say you were arguing for sure, but half the time you were going by the assumption that the site agreed with your views on forum etiquette, when I recently proved that they don't (the majority don't anyway).

Once again, I should've put more effort into this debate, but your name calling was really out of line.

[mattroks101]

This debate has boiled down to "you're wrong, I'm right" on both sides

That's all debates on this site ever are. Honestly, I think all of you have wasted your time.

[SleeplessPanda]

What? You never did. You just brought up MANY mindless assumptions.



The argument was to combat your ridiculous, "I'm not breaking any rules.". The whole point of it was that just because the there are no rules against it, there are implied boundaries. Plus, your statement "Proved how warped your idea of "forum etiquette" was" is just ignorant. How is the idea of posting thoughts in the proper thread instead of making a thread about said thoughts twisted?

That's why I didn't want to debate this anymore, you're blind to how illogical you're acting.

I have been shooting down all of your "arguments" by using actual arguments. I haven't been making blatant statements about how I don't understand what you've just said, then continue to say that I'm right and you are wrong. And let us look at the insults examples:

Child: This is based off of your childish argument style. Now let us think for a moment. Anybody can lie about their age on the internet, so how am I supposed to know that you are really an adult? Calling you a child in general is fair play.
Stupid: You are correct, this is an insult.
Autistic: Your arguments are very repetitive, your interactions with ANY form of negetive feedback is usually, "TROLL!". Hmmm.... Repetitive behavior and impaired social skills? Sounds like autism.

That's 1/3 actual, unjustified insults.



If you claim that you are so mature, then why are you still "arguing" against me? Your hypocrisy is just amazing.



I've already stated about how ignorant you are AND how you can't debate, so this just proves that you aren't even reading my posts.



And now we are back to the adolescent's favorite argument, "I'm right, your wrong". It's one of those arguments where you use it when you WANT to be right, but you are sure as hell that you a wrong. It's the equivalent of saying, "If you say anything to defend yourself after this, I win". Although, I should keep in mind that I'm arguing with a person who thinks that most of the negative feedback he gets is from trolls.

This part basically boils down to I agree with you on making more of an effort to post in threads that already exist, and yes I should've put more of an effort into actually proving you're wrong instead of just saying you're wrong. So now by going back and re-analyzing all your statements, I'm proving you wrong on some points and proving my point that you were being just as opinionated as me.

[SleeplessPanda]

And incase you missed the link the first time, THIS is where I'm getting my facts from when I say this site's forum etiquette reflects my style more than it does yours Backmask: http://amvhell.com/showthread.php?t=6057

So hopefully now we can bury this debate and call it a draw.

[SleeplessPanda]

That's all debates on this site ever are. Honestly, I think all of you have wasted your time.

My time's not valuable, so it's okay'. :D

[mattroks101]

Well good for you then. Because fighting with Evilest is the biggest time waster you can possibly find.

[EvilestDeath]

I could've, but I didn't. My bad.

Backmask 1
SleeplessPanda 0

While I will agree with you that people should put more of an effort into contributing to threads that already exist instead of making new ones (unless the thread they're making is about a very specific subject), my threads ARE within the general theme of this website as proven by recent studies:

http://amvhell.com/showthread.php?t=6057
Using information from a future topic that YOU created about thread overuse doesn't cut it when trying to prove someone was wrong (before the said "evidence" was crafted)
Backmask 2
SleeplessPanda 0


@First paragraph: You're right, I should've put more effort into proving my point.

@Second paragraph: Extremely bad comparison, especially when the "host of the party", in this case the majority of AMV Hell's user base, would be fine with me acting the way I do, though not in the way you put it.

@Third paragraph: You suggested I'm making this site worse by going out of your way on multiple occasions to tell me to stop making so many threads, but that's my opinion, so technically you've never said I'm making the site worse. Also, I personally wouldn't be annoyed if the site's forums turned into something more similar to a social site, but the majority of people here would like to keep things tame, as in trying to keep thread posting to one a day and making it not pointless, which is what I've been doing and people agree with me on that.

@Fourth paragraph: Point made.
1. Backmask (you agreed)
2. Panda, you just have more for you on that one then against.
3. Backmask, (Because the majority says its ok) No, refer to what Backmask said in the second paragraph.
4. Backmask

Backmask 5
SleeplessPanda 1


Not looking good for you here Panda. I will just say a few things here since the rest doesn't change much.

Back was not 100% correct true, maybe 95% or so same diff. main point is that it took you this amount of time to even agree with a single thing he said and here your now agreeing with multiple things he has stated. (I am actually proud of you for that) Big thing here that might be news, posts can be extreamly large, no need to post a multitude of small posts. Anyone who has enough interest and can follow along to a simple "quote, response, quote, response..." pattern can read straight down a single post.

[SleeplessPanda]

^Your point system is flawed, some of the points you gave to him were based on your opinions. I'd say his horrible "party guest" comparison earned me a point and not him, and though my studies were done at a future date, it doesn't change the fact he assumed people would agree more with his style of forum etiquette and claimed my style was wrong based on that assumption, so that's more points for me. It's a tie.

[EvilestDeath]

^Your point system is flawed, some of the points you gave to him were based on your opinions. I'd say his horrible "party guest" comparison earned me a point and not him, and though my studies were done at a future date, it doesn't change the fact he assumed people would agree more with his style of forum etiquette and claimed my style was wrong based on that assumption, so that's more points for me. It's a tie.

I say a double loss! No, TRIPLE LOSS! Everyone loses, bwahahaha.

[SleeplessPanda]

I say a double loss! No, TRIPLE LOSS! Everyone loses, bwahahaha.

Actually upon further examination I believe I have a 1 point lead, so I win. :cool:

[jinzo64]

i beleive i win because i said so.

[EvilestDeath]

i beleive i win because i said so.
Yes

Actually upon further examination I believe I have a 1 point lead, so I win. :cool:
No

[regnier]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq6q8d7M4V1qmhbgeo1_400.gif

[EvilestDeath]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq6q8d7M4V1qmhbgeo1_400.gif

I call spiderman!

[jinzo64]

i pick the other guy

[SleeplessPanda]

i pick the other guy

Indeed. The other guy actually looks a lot more interesting than Spider-Man. He SOMEWHAT looks like he might belong in Katamari Damacy. =o

[jinzo64]

how did we get to this point on this thread

[regnier]

back to the topic. 6 MORE DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://reason.com/assets/mc/psuderman/2011_04/scannershead.gif

[jinzo64]

yeah but thats in america so it be a little longer for the u.k

[regnier]

when in the u.k?

[Kaiju]

back to the topic. 6 MORE DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://reason.com/assets/mc/psuderman/2011_04/scannershead.gif

http://www.gtfo.ro/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/i_came.jpg

[regnier]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97icwkir4Es
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz104/carbonar1/184201_south_park_i_just_came_1.jpg

[jeremyhac]

http://i39.tinypic.com/wb4ak1.jpg

[Tazuto]

as long as it plays better i dont care what game they copy

[Kaiju]

FIVE. FIVE MOAR DAYS.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/080/8/0/reaction_to_skyrim_by_windwalker94-d3c69q5.png

(a)

[jinzo64]

omg theres a little man stuck in that blokes pants