[SleeplessPanda]

I thought I'd get a head start on making this, since even though it's not 2012 yet there's already people running. How does everyone feel about Obama so far? Good, bad, somewhere in between? Honestly, I'm not that thrilled with him, but the current batch of Republican nominees doesn't exactly fill me full of hope either, but there's still a lot of time between now and the election so who knows what'll happen. =3

(Yes there's a politics thread, but I felt like making something a little more specific for the upcoming election. Problem? Deal with it. :party:)

[SleeplessPanda]

Aaaaanyway', from what I've been seeing on the news and online so far, as far as the Republican nominees go, is that currently it's a tie between Herman Cain and Mitt Romney. Between those two . . I probably have more faith in Romney since he has more experience, but Cain is really charismatic and has some interesting new ideas, though so did Obama and that didn't turn out so well . .

[N.P.C.C.]

Darth Obama: And so it was said, that in time an obamination to the force shall emerge and bring with it a destruction the likes of which the galaxy has never seen...

Yeah, not much of a political kinda guy but i always wanted to do that joke...I just find the play on words hilarious. Obama = Obamination or I'll bomb a nation

[SleeplessPanda]

Darth Obama: And so it was said, that in time an obamination to the force shall emerge and bring with it a destruction the likes of which the galaxy has never seen...

Yeah, not much of a political kinda guy but i always wanted to do that joke...I just find the play on words hilarious. Obama = Obamination or I'll bomb a nation

I . . don't get it, but I'm sure it's a fine joke. :sweatdrop:

[Kaiju]

I...find almost everyone in the Republican nominations to be a complete and utter retards. And I am crying inside, to think they have a chance to run this country.

Rick Perry? A Racist hick from Texas, who puts people to death like it's a circus, and can't debate worth a ****.
Herman Cain? A Billionaire, whose idea for border control is sickening(electrified ten foot fence that will kill you)and how he views the jobless is saddening (it's their fault their without jobs)
Michele Bachman? A complete and utter retard (the injections cause Mental Retardation!) who wants to make the United States a Theocracy. *facepalm*
Santorum? Google It. :D
Mitt Romney? he keeps flipflopping on his position so often, It's hard to figure out what he does and doesn't stand for.
The others barely do anything of note!

That and when, psycho's in the conservative side of things ALSO think these guys are extreme...it's a little to much: http://gawker.com/5853392/jon-stewart-republican-candidates-are-too-extreme-even-for-other-republicans?tag=thedailyshow

As much as I'd hate to, I have to side with the democrats again, and vote for Obama AGAIN. At least Obama isn't a complete and utter moron in comparison to let's say Bachmann. That and even if he's struggling with the Economy, he has succeeded in other areas (Including one Badass Foreign Policy: Kill Osama, Kill other high value terrorists, Pull Troops from Iraq by the end of the year, aid in toppling Gaddafi, among others) and he has been making strides to improvement, the first years in office are always stressful, especially when left with a problem that's been left over from another administration. Obama has matured to a point, he seems to a grasp of what needs to be done, and I want to see what he can do. Chances are he won't run this country into the ground, if he could, he would have done that the moment he took office.


I'm not a very political guy, I don't give a **** about Republicans or Democrats (they are more like Sports Teams to me with the pne side consisting of telling the other side they suck, and vice versa)
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/219/9/0/Political_debates_in_the_USA_by_BrokenTeapot.jpg
Yeah, kinda like that.

I just want a president, who has a brain, actually know our nations history (we are not a Theocracy, dammit, the Founding Father's were Deist, and the whole in god we trust thing was added during the Cold War to distinguish ourselves from the "godless commies".) and actually supports what's good for the country rather than a political/salary based agenda.
Of course, unless someone from the Internet runs for President that will never happen.

*Also, this is my opinion, I don't want to start a political debate*

[N.P.C.C.]

Ah, well enough for the derailment. Carry on.

[SleeplessPanda]

Michele Bachmann is pretty scary, but still not as bad as Palin. Thank God Palin dropped out and Bachmann has no chance of taking the lead.

[N.P.C.C.]

Michele Bachmann is pretty scary, but still not as bad as Palin. Thank God Palin dropped out and Bachmann has no chance of taking the lead.

And here i was about to mention the lack of palin bashing.

[bloodlover1987]

any one but Obama

[SleeplessPanda]

And here i was about to mention the lack of palin bashing.

I'm sorry, but the woman's a nut. I can't stand people who are so far right, or far left for that matter. She's all talking points and no substance.

[EvilestDeath]

What current nominees? Sources nigga, sources. Why not just create an Obama thread since its not 2012 yet? Pointless daily threads is more like it.

[N.P.C.C.]

I'm sorry, but the woman's a nut. I can't stand people who are so far right, or far left for that matter. She's all talking points and no substance.

Oh, i'm not arguing with you bro. Even someone as politically inept as me has had the displeasure of hearing this woman talk and she just screams incompetence and possible nut job. Seriously, ever see her smile?

[SleeplessPanda]

What current nominees? Sources nigga, sources. Why not just create an Obama thread since its not 2012 yet? Pointless daily threads is more like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrjMkeXGfGM

The candidates aren't waiting around for January 1st 2012 to start campaigning, I didn't feel like waiting around to start a thread about it. Go troll somewhere else, your "take apart what everyone says and over analyze it in a douchebag manner" attitude is getting really old. If you care about this site so much that you feel the need to police the forums and try to make everyone act the way you want them to act, then go make some videos for AMV Minis or something, that's what I do. Also, stop stalking me, you claim to be the "mature" one yet you act like an obsessed troll with nothing better to do than create problems where there aren't any. If anyone is a problem here on this site, it's you for not knowing when they're not wanted. I'm not going to make one thread a month just to please your pathetic attention seeking ass. You're not special, you don't deserve to have that big ego, and speaking of being pointless, this is a thread about the 2012 election, not the "bawww' at SleeplessPanda" thread, so stay on topic.

[SleeplessPanda]

Oh, i'm not arguing with you bro. Even someone as politically inept as me has had the displeasure of hearing this woman talk and she just screams incompetence and possible nut job. Seriously, ever see her smile?

Actually I've seen her smile A LOT, it's usually when she's talking about "Gettin' the country back to its roots and remindin' the kids what American values are all about dontcha' know?". Honestly, though I wasn't that crazy about him when he was in office, it's times like these I miss Bill Clinton . . He wasn't perfect, but you knew what you were getting and he was decent with the economy.

[Neomalysys]

My opinion is that we are seriously ****ed here in the good ol U.S.A.

[abyssion1337]

Obama isn't nearly as bad as people make him seem, he inherited a **** ton of problems most of which couldn't be resolved within four years, and don't forget that most of his recent failures is just him getting blocked by congress to make him look bad, personally I think it should make congress look bad but w/e people are stupid. I'm still not happy about him, he didn't meet expectations but quite frankly **** the GOP

[jinzo64]

i want to know one thing about the president of the U.S.A
why is the president of the U.S.A classed as the most powerful man/women in the world?

[SleeplessPanda]

Obama isn't nearly as bad as people make him seem, he inherited a **** ton of problems most of which couldn't be resolved within four years, and don't forget that most of his recent failures is just him getting blocked by congress to make him look bad, personally I think it should make congress look bad but w/e people are stupid. I'm still not happy about him, he didn't meet expectations but quite frankly **** the GOP

I think at some point during the Obama administration, both parties just stopped caring about making the country better and instead started having a pissing contest. All they care about now is the upcoming election, and they don't care what they have to say or do to make it to the top of the polls and win over the American people. Instead of working together they're playing the blame game and both sides are putting out propaganda left and right. It's only going to get worse as November 2012 nears. Politics as usual I suppose . .

[jinzo64]

playing the blame game thats how pollotics works isn't it?

[SleeplessPanda]

i want to know one thing about the president of the U.S.A
why is the president of the U.S.A classed as the most powerful man/women in the world?

The United States of America has, and for the most part still is, been considered the leading country in the world. Strong economy, strong military, a large population of people from all around the world, I'm sure someone with more knowledge on the subject could list more reasons. So you've got 3 branches of government, and the president in charge of one branch, one man with a lot of power. He/she basically is the face of the country while they're president, they're the boss (somewhat) of the world's most major super power. Though in recent years, China has been quickly becoming a force to rival and even outmatch the U.S.'s strength, in a few more years they might be considered the world leader and the president (emperor, king, whatever) of China will be the most powerful man/woman in the world. Of course, that's all my opinion, but I hope it somewhat answers your question.

[jinzo64]

oh i see.
thanks.
i guess the president of the U.S.A does have a lot of power.

[Guthix]

playing the blame game thats how pollotics works isn't it?

im not from U.S.A or not much into politics but i belive i do remember somethnig from my history lessons.as bull****ingly as it seems there IS A reason to have parties, naturaly when there is a chalanger to face there is something to judge your own streght and move forwards while doing solo would look like your doing your best.
BUT.similary as in religion, poeple like to bend **** into making no sence.[like crusades or general wars for "god"] now backing to now todays politicians are fighting in a destructive competition,which results putting more effort into outbeating yer oponents,making his efforts makng the country better vein [because ppl dont vote for em or simply wastes time defending his position] and also you yourself waste time and effort which you could put to solving ****.
blame wars is how politics is now but its not how its suposed to be.
and thats boys and girls why the goverment sucks ^^,they should all be hanged and replaced with old bearded philosophers like the old greeks did lol.

[SleeplessPanda]

I don't know about "hanged", but it'd be nice if the people who became president would have decades of experience and think in a smart logical manner. It's so hard to find a good president these days . . George W. Bush was a cowboy who didn't care what anyone thought, and Obama is the exact opposite and wants to appease everyone, it makes the country look weak. He's been too soft on Iran, but then again if W. was still president we'd be in another war, and Iran is a lot more dangerous than Iraq was. I guess what I really want to see is a moderate Independant in the White House, but that probably won't happen. =\

[ThePsychoGamer]

Obama will most likely win in 2012. So far I don't see a Republican canidate who even has a shot at beating him.

[simpleton216]

http://i.imgur.com/ZsqtB.jpg

[XelaisPWN]

My prediction:

Romney wins republican primary. Super close race. Obama wins second term.


Makes me sad, really. My favorite candidate so far is Gary Johnson.

[MADEVIL]

As always a bunch of assholes running and making false promises. The government is so screwed up is not even funny. Everyone needs to be fired and we need to start over with people who real care about this country. The system has failed!

[XelaisPWN]

Clearly. We live in a democracy where the government is seen as the enemy. That, ladies and gentlemen, is the definition of a failed system.

[jeremyhac]

Hehe, Stephen Harper isn't looking so bad right about now :party:

[XelaisPWN]

xD Touche...

[jinzo64]

theres only one thing that we know for sure pollitions will more than likley go back on or change the promises they made bfore they got elected to power

[Kaiju]

Or if the GOP get's in, undo everything Obama has done for nothing other than he was Obama.

[Neomalysys]

American politics have devolved to Republican vs Democrat even if they agree on something they will still block each others proposals. That is some seriously ****ed up ****.
That's why I think the Texas system should be made national. This means they only get paid for a few weeks every year as a politician and have to have their own job for the remainder of their term. Also it's against the law to vote on proposals that would directly benefit them or their business.

[jinzo64]

i just wish the pollitions would do somthing about the collaspe of the world economy
first it was greece now most of europe is going down. americas been hit aswell and it 's beginning to look like the economic boom china was engoying is about to collapse in on itself.
were all doomed.

[Kaiju]

Economically, China is utterly dependent on the U.S., if we fall so does China, and if China falls that would lead to up-rises due to their communist regime, which would throw all of Asia into disarray, and if we fall, I know a ton of Asian nations who want to go and **** over Japan over WWII, China and North Korea included.

Also, what is your guys opinion on what should be done with Mexico? With the Drug War, American and Mexican Citizens getting massacred and all...

[jinzo64]

erm i see your goverment like mine is good at getting involved in the affairs of the middle east but when the problems on the door step and breathing down the neck of the local populase they don't give a damn.
i say the best thing to do is to take mexico by storm basicaly invade it conficast all fire arms and petrol until all drug barrons and dealers are rounded up but and a plane and dropped with out parracutes in to the middle of the anartic ocean or arrtic which evers coldest.

[SleeplessPanda]

Economically, China is utterly dependent on the U.S., if we fall so does China, and if China falls that would lead to up-rises due to their communist regime, which would throw all of Asia into disarray, and if we fall, I know a ton of Asian nations who want to go and **** over Japan over WWII, China and North Korea included.

Also, what is your guys opinion on what should be done with Mexico? With the Drug War, American and Mexican Citizens getting massacred and all...

Well as long as people keep looking the other way on illegal immigration, drug runners are going to keep getting through. Normally we'd be able to filter out those guys, but since so many people now rely on illegal immigrants for labor, and the left feels a need to keep encouraging them to come in by promoting sanctuary cities, it doesn't look like this country will have a handle on it anytime soon. (I'll talk more about this later I g2g' DX )

[jeremyhac]

Well as long as people keep looking the other way on illegal immigration, drug runners are going to keep getting through. Normally we'd be able to filter out those guys, but since so many people now rely on illegal immigrants for labor, and the left feels a need to keep encouraging them to come in by promoting sanctuary cities, it doesn't look like this country will have a handle on it anytime soon. (I'll talk more about this later I g2g' DX )

Rather have illegal mexicans than crazy muslim terrorists any day.

[Neomalysys]

My solution to the drug problem in Mexico is all out war. We find were these a-holes live and deliver a couple bombs to there front door. That would show the bastards who has the bigger guns.

[EvilestDeath]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrjMkeXGfGM

The candidates aren't waiting around for January 1st 2012 to start campaigning, I didn't feel like waiting around to start a thread about it. Go troll somewhere else, your "take apart what everyone says and over analyze it in a douchebag manner" attitude is getting really old. If you care about this site so much that you feel the need to police the forums and try to make everyone act the way you want them to act, then go make some videos for AMV Minis or something, that's what I do. Also, stop stalking me, you claim to be the "mature" one yet you act like an obsessed troll with nothing better to do than create problems where there aren't any. If anyone is a problem here on this site, it's you for not knowing when they're not wanted. I'm not going to make one thread a month just to please your pathetic attention seeking ass. You're not special, you don't deserve to have that big ego, and speaking of being pointless, this is a thread about the 2012 election, not the "bawww' at SleeplessPanda" thread, so stay on topic.
"WWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" -SleeplessPanda

Cept the first part, thanks for that it was rather useful.

[Kaiju]

Yeah, the Cartels down in Mexico are way worse than Muslim Terrorists. Muslim Terrorists have a religious backing, and they are losing support because they kill more Muslims than Westerners anyway.
The Cartels down in Mexico have a chokehold of fear, the police, the politicians, and others are forced to cooperate out of fear. Those guys slaughter entire families for ****s sake. A vacationer who is a United States citizen get's kidnapped, then get's decapitated while being filmed by those bastards.
Mexico I think needs U.S. Help, and it both countries best interest sending troops (or drones) down to Mexico to go uproot the cartels seem to be the way to go. Not only that the U.S. spends millions if not billions of dollars in the War on Drugs and Border Patrol each year. So in short, uproot a massive proponent of the Drug Problem, make Mexico a better place, getting rid of the "tyrants" there, and Mexicans won't be as likely as flee Mexico in record numbers, the Drug Problem get's solved and the U.S. has billions of dollars more to focus on other things.
We send Troops to foreign powers all the time, why not send troops to aid our neighbor?

[SleeplessPanda]

"WWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" -SleeplessPanda

Cept the first part, thanks for that it was rather useful.

"Once again SleeplessPanda you have proven me to be a simple troll with nothing to say. Your debating skills are too much for me to handle, so I'll resort to suggesting that everything you say is whining and in my mind I will have won." -EvilestDeath

I think my translation of what you said is much more accurate than your translations of what I say. =3

[SleeplessPanda]

Yeah, the Cartels down in Mexico are way worse than Muslim Terrorists. Muslim Terrorists have a religious backing, and they are losing support because they kill more Muslims than Westerners anyway.
The Cartels down in Mexico have a chokehold of fear, the police, the politicians, and others are forced to cooperate out of fear. Those guys slaughter entire families for ****s sake. A vacationer who is a United States citizen get's kidnapped, then get's decapitated while being filmed by those bastards.
Mexico I think needs U.S. Help, and it both countries best interest sending troops (or drones) down to Mexico to go uproot the cartels seem to be the way to go. Not only that the U.S. spends millions if not billions of dollars in the War on Drugs and Border Patrol each year. So in short, uproot a massive proponent of the Drug Problem, make Mexico a better place, getting rid of the "tyrants" there, and Mexicans won't be as likely as flee Mexico in record numbers, the Drug Problem get's solved and the U.S. has billions of dollars more to focus on other things.
We send Troops to foreign powers all the time, why not send troops to aid our neighbor?

That's a GREAT idea, but I don't think Obama would have the guts to do it. We'd need a trigger happy Republican president. Then again, if Obama promised to send troops into Mexico to take out the cartels and make this country safer, I'd probably be more inclined to vote for him.

[EvilestDeath]

"Once again SleeplessPanda you have proven me to be a simple troll with nothing to say. Your debating skills are too much for me to handle, so I'll resort to suggesting that everything you say is whining and in my mind I will have won." -EvilestDeath

I think my translation of what you said is much more accurate than your translations of what I say. =3

WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Not BAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW there's a difference

[Kaiju]

That's a GREAT idea, but I don't think Obama would have the guts to do it. We'd need a trigger happy Republican president. Then again, if Obama promised to send troops into Mexico to take out the cartels and make this country safer, I'd probably be more inclined to vote for him.
He had the guts to invade a sovereign nation we weren't at war with to go kill Osama Bin Laden, without telling congress or the other nation until after it was over with. And we didn't even know it was Bin Laden until almost 24 hours after we gunned his ass down.
That took serious guts, sending a squad, to a sovereign nation, to hunt a man who could not even be there, and a lot of circumstantial evidence pointing towards it. He has them, but he just needs to focus them.

Obama proved he can take down the most wanted man on earth with U.S. Navy Seals... I think he tried, he could lead our country to take out Mexico's problem of the Cartels. They are all run by ex-military, true, but the U.S. has the Technology and Troop power, that and Remote Drones are capable of finding a target and obliterating them before they even realize their being watched. This administration also saw the general collapse of Al-Qaeda.

Obama has the guts, but America needs to see the problem down south for what it really is, and do something before the violence is drug onto U.S. soil, which many Border Patrol officers (See: Border Wars) , are positive, that it is only a matter of time before said Violence does happen in California, New Mexico, Arizona, or Texas. And by then we would have already lost more innocent American lives.

Also speaking of which: http://gawker.com/5854636/anonymous-threatens-to-take-down-violent-mexican-drug-cartel this is relevant.

[SleeplessPanda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhm-22Q0PuM

Ohhhhhh' dear. o.o;

[SleeplessPanda]

lolz', I posted a comment on that Herman Cain ad video and after 5 hours it's the top comment. I've never had a comment of mine get that much attention on such a popular video before. =p

[Distict5-9]

^ XD
Didn't notice at first that the comment was yours...
And yes, that is truly a rape-face for the records...

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5034/shepardrapeface.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g399/Pants-Man/Screenshot2011-11-02at123817.pnghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lktzy3qO851qj8toco1_500.jpg

[simpleton216]

anyone else see the rick perry "drunk" speech?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21z30aNO3cA

[Guthix]

oh god, this cals for a facepalm, an epic one

[abyssion1337]

Wow, you guys seem to have a very oversimplified view of the Drug War, which makes sense because US media and news outlets tend to ignore the issue or oversimplify it themselves. Though so far I'm surprised and happy you aren't saying we should bomb all the Muslims over there, you wouldn't believe how many people suggest that. That said I think you're too hasty in your thoughts about bombing the Cartels, before even thinking about tat you really need to think more about the situation. Once pressed that button can't be unpressed.

[Guthix]

Wow, you guys seem to have a very oversimplified view of the Drug War, which makes sense because US media and news outlets tend to ignore the issue or oversimplify it themselves. Though so far I'm surprised and happy you aren't saying we should bomb all the Muslims over there, you wouldn't believe how many people suggest that. That said I think you're too hasty in your thoughts about bombing the Cartels, before even thinking about tat you really need to think more about the situation. Once pressed that button can't be unpressed.

that may be true if you were still human,the concept of killing itself might never have a right or wrong and also finding sympathy for everything is imposible.

sell drugs to not die of starvation
shoot bullet so he doesnt sell drugs to your children, and ruin theyr lives

the deeper you go the more your brain gets ****ed, thats kinda why ppl decide to be ignorant seemingly unaware that they will regret [if theyr still human]
well the muslim eh... religion is not my strong point i still consider its a fact of the oil.

[SleeplessPanda]

anyone else see the rick perry "drunk" speech?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21z30aNO3cA

Even after watching that mess of a speech, I'd say he STILL has more of a chance than THIS guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SPJpKZcVMw

Rick Santorum and all the other homophobes in the Republican party can go to Hell, though some would argue they WOULDN'T go to Hell because "the Bible says that being gay is wrong so their views are right", which is one reason I stopped being Catholic. ****ing no respect for that soldier by those people.

[Kaiju]

Even after watching that mess of a speech, I'd say he STILL has more of a chance than THIS guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SPJpKZcVMw

Rick Santorum and all the other homophobes in the Republican party can go to Hell, though some would argue they WOULDN'T go to Hell because "the Bible says that being gay is wrong so their views are right", which is one reason I stopped being Catholic. ****ing no respect for that soldier by those people.

Actually only newer versions of the bible only mention anti-homosexuality, I believe as I'm pretty sure Jesus said nothing about it. That and the bible is ripe full of inconsistencies anyways. (I view it more as Creation Myth + Some Moral Guidelines by the time Moses and Jesus came in anyway)
Not only that, isn't there supposed to be a thing called "Separation of Church and State"?

[SleeplessPanda]

Yeah there's supposed to be a separation of Church and State, but that doesn't stop a lot of politicians from letting their religion influence their decisions. Honestly the only religion I can relate to is Buddhism. It's one of the only TRUE religions of peace, and reincarnation just makes more sense to me than the whole "Heaven & Hell" idea.

[SleeplessPanda]

On a related note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EdAAZ2x5-E

Video, y u so amusing & relevant?! ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

[Speedlemon]

Cave johnson for president

[Kaiju]

HE'LL BURN DOWN OUR ECONOMIC WOES WITH COMBUSTIBLE LEMONS!

Cave Johnson 2012.

[Kaiju]

Yeah there's supposed to be a separation of Church and State, but that doesn't stop a lot of politicians from letting their religion influence their decisions. Honestly the only religion I can relate to is Buddhism. It's one of the only TRUE religions of peace, and reincarnation just makes more sense to me than the whole "Heaven & Hell" idea.

I agree. Buddhism is the only religion I won't mock (Every other Religion? Fair Game...including Atheism, nothing is sacred '3'). And not because their monks can break my neck faster than I can blink. Even though that is a contributing factor.
I think the united States would benefit from someone who wasn't a Christian in the White House, be it a Buddhist, Hebrew, or hell a Muslim would do wonders in getting our heads out of our intolerant asses, only some Muslims are Al-Qaeda, like some Christians were the Nazi's and KKK.
I feel the American's, especially the GOP, need to actually LEARN American History and not just what they want to hear.
The Founding Father's were Deist, Michele Bachmann! They believed in the sciences, and Thomas Jefferson wrote a book called the "Moral Teachings of Jesus Christ" to help avoid religious roots in the White House. One of the things they did not want was a Theocracy.
The whole situation with religion, sprouted out when the Soviets turned out to be Atheist in their national religion, and us, wanting to humanize ourselves compared to the "God-Hating" Commies, added "Under God" into the Pledge of Allegiance and I think the motto "In God we Trust" was added during that time as well.

[jinzo64]

can i be the next president of the U.S.A

[abyssion1337]

And yet, you guys are wrong about Buddhism as well, in theory you're right but in practice, let's just say that the Dali Lama trying to get Tibet free is much more like a propaganda campaign than anything else. Fact is while in charge of Tibet he's known to have kept slaves and promoted caste where he was on top while doing whatever possible to keep everyone else down. Fact of the matter is he all of this and could get away with it in the name of Buddhism.

[jinzo64]

the whole thing is rather complicated when you get right down to it and get all the facts.

[abyssion1337]

Yeah don't get me started on Mother Teresa.

[Kaiju]

Jinzo, I can barely understand what Politicians are saying, so I'm fearful of what you will sound like if you become president.

Hm. Haven't heard of that before, but it doesn't surprise me actually. I still don't Buddhists have committed Genocide/Mass Slaughter/Torture/etc. before though, although I could be wrong.

[Guthix]

religion, a way for man to gain stremght[morals,will n ****] when he cant belive in himself and is a pussy
religion,a way to have an excuse your action [bad or good DEPENDS ON THE PERSON NOT THE RELIGION]
religion,an idea which mean to do good but its crashing... badly.

[SleeplessPanda]

Yeah don't get me started on Mother Teresa.

My sister was following this protestant church, and for kicks I went with her once and asked the guy in charge if Mother Teresa was in Hell since she was a Catholic. He said she is. I was like "What about all the good things she did?". He said it didn't matter how good a person is, if they don't follow God correctly they're going to Hell no matter what. Later he tried to push a book on me, and he succeeded only because he kept nudging me with it and was like "Just take it, it's free, just read a couple pages.". I tossed it once I got home. =p

[abyssion1337]

OH her being a Catholic is irrelevant to my point, a lot of the 'good' things she did are played up, she's done more bad than good. There's an episode of Bull**** about it, Penn and Teller can explain it way better than I can (though I could if you asked, I suppose).

[SleeplessPanda]

OH her being a Catholic is irrelevant to my point, a lot of the 'good' things she did are played up, she's done more bad than good. There's an episode of Bull**** about it, Penn and Teller can explain it way better than I can (though I could if you asked, I suppose).

I LOVE that show, one of my favorites was the Boy Scouts episode where they exposed it for the brainwashing homophobic cult that it is (I'm probably being a tad harsh but that's how I feel). I haven't seen the Mother Teresa one though, I'll keep an eye out for it.

[SleeplessPanda]

Update on the Occupy Wallstreet movement (Oakland branch) half way through this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMcsEWflcQA

Crazy stuff. =o

[abyssion1337]

Better update, they're now represented on all 7 continents.

[Kaiju]

Update on the Occupy Wallstreet movement (Oakland branch) half way through this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMcsEWflcQA

Crazy stuff. =o

It's Oakland, what do you expect? (Every Sunday during Football season get's devastated even more.)


Better update, they're now represented on all 7 continents.

Even Antarctica? Damn, so the Thing is apart of the 99%?

[SleeplessPanda]

^HAH'! XD

[abyssion1337]

Well The Thing doesn't actually make money. Also **** you remake of The Thing we didn't ask for you.

[Kaiju]

Perhaps, that's why it's protesting because it's not making money? Also,I Concur with Abyss, the Thing remake was completely unnecessary.

[SleeplessPanda]

Perhaps, that's why it's protesting because it's not making money? Also,I Concur with Abyss, the Thing remake was completely unnecessary.

Isn't it a prequel?

[abyssion1337]

Either way.

[jinzo64]

i heard theres a sunken ship in pearl harbor that is leaking oil in to the harbour but the u.s goverment are letting carry on as a mororial to the soldiers that lost there lifes during the bombing of pearl harbor.
my questions are
1 is that true?
2 if so shouldn't they save the oil and the enviroment at the same time?

[XelaisPWN]

Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about.

Looking it up, it's called the USS Arizona.

I presume the oil is unsalvageable and it's not really doing significant harm to the ocean. Remember, the ocean is really really really ****ing big. They probably draw in more money with it posing as a tourist attraction.

Dunno what that has to do with the 2012 american election, but there ya have it, my two cents xD

[Guthix]

Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about.

Looking it up, it's called the USS Arizona.

I presume the oil is unsalvageable and it's not really doing significant harm to the ocean. Remember, the ocean is really really really ****ing big. They probably draw in more money with it posing as a tourist attraction.

Dunno what that has to do with the 2012 american election, but there ya have it, my two cents xD

even if its big doesnt mean the **** goes away

[Kaiju]

even if its big doesnt mean the **** goes away

Remember this is in HAWAII, which is to say, we should be worried of it's large dormant Volcanoes (not the small continuously erupting one you see all the time on TV) that has a high chance of having half it's mass fall into the Ocean and cause one hell of a Massive Tsunami (Landslides = HUGE ****ING TSUNAMIS.) plus the fact that, you know, a big ****ing Volcano (one of the largest on Earth from sea floor to surface*bigger than Everest*) just erupted. Oil seeping out of a eighty year old shipwreck *that isn't even an Oil tanker* isn't on Hawaii's list of "Mega Disasters."
That and Hawaii is in the Middle of the Pacific Ocean, and it's seeping out in such small amounts that environmental damage would be minimal.

[jinzo64]

i was just curious about it.
i mean with everyone talking about helping the enviroment i figured that one of the parties might have mentioned it.
but leaking for nearly 80 years is quite a long time.

not to be rude but damage is damage if your playing a fighting game enough chip damage will eventually kill your character.

[abyssion1337]

Yes but unlike in a fighting game the ocean is robust and can recover from damage. That's just a really ignorant statement you said.

[jinzo64]

i don't beleive we should take the ocean for granted.
my statement is a bit arrogent but i couldn't think of a better way to put it.

i mean the ocean itself is vast and robust but the creatures arn't all that robust sorry i didn't mean to take this off topic.

[SleeplessPanda]

i don't beleive we should take the ocean for granted.
my statement is a bit arrogent but i couldn't think of a better way to put it.

i mean the ocean itself is vast and robust but the creatures arn't all that robust sorry i didn't mean to take this off topic.

I think people don't care about the ship leaking a tiny bit of oil because the ocean itself has oil deposits beneath the ocean floor that naturally leak small amounts of oil over time.

[Kaiju]

Oil in the ocean is only really bad is when a ton of the **** get's spilled out at once. Such as when a Oil tanker wrecks or BP ****s up their rigs up, because the environment can handle that much **** at once.
That and ship in Hawaii is in a enclosed bay/harbor. If it does become a problem, it won't be a huge problem.

[jinzo64]

i think there might be somthing better that could be done with the oil from the ship wreck.
and i guess there will always be natural pollution.
but if there is a man made item polluting the world we should do somthing about it.

[Kaiju]

Oh, and the wreck is also haunted too. :)

[jinzo64]

by the ghosts of sailers we should call the scooby doo gang and the ghostbusters

[Kaiju]

Ghost Hunters already did an investigation with Josh Gates. :)
They caught a **** load of unexplained sounds, guys talking, EVP's and what sounds like mechanical equipment being used even when they were the only ones there.

That is, if you believe that that is actual evidence and not faked by SyFy.

[jinzo64]

that may be true but scooby doo will use scooby snacks to get to the truth

[SleeplessPanda]

Ghost Hunters already did an investigation with Josh Gates. :)
They caught a **** load of unexplained sounds, guys talking, EVP's and what sounds like mechanical equipment being used even when they were the only ones there.

That is, if you believe that that is actual evidence and not faked by SyFy.

I choose the second option. Those shows are horribly faked, along with the "psychic" shows, not to mention psychics in general are a load a crap'.

[jinzo64]

we're totaly going off topic.
so how many of you think obama will get another go at being president of america

[Kaiju]

That's your Opinion. :<
With Ghost Hunters, I'd say they are fakes if they did catch ghosts every episode, they don't. a good portion of the time, they explain it away with high EMF's which can screw with your head (scientifically proven with the "God Helmet") creaking foundations, old buildings, drafts, etc.
I prefer Ghost Adventures as they get actually **** happen to them and their families that you can't just easily explain away as coincidence.

Of course, I do believe in ghosts, as I've had to much **** happen to me that I can't explain. So skeptics are allowed to say their opinions on the matter, from their cozy homes, not going out their and trying to explain it away themselves.

Yes, looking at the GOP, I'd say Obama has a good chance of winning, since his competition is ****.

[jinzo64]

but you have to agree my opinion is right

[Kaiju]

No, Scooby is no match for Batman. Send Batman in, and he'll prove/disprove ghosts, and he proves them, he will beat the **** out of them. Because he's Batman.

[jinzo64]

batman wins all arguments

[SleeplessPanda]

^If Cain beats Romney somehow, Obama will probably win. If Romney beats Cain, Obama will probably lose. Romney might not be the "perfect Republican", but that might give him the edge he needs, not to mention his biggest strength is economic issues, and right now the #1 concern of most Americans is the economy.

[Kaiju]

Indeed at both counts. And Also Romney also has an edge because he keeps flipflopping his opinions on certain issues, leading to a lot of people to remain indifferent on him, instead of outright loathing like the other republicans.

Also: Wayne and Grayson for 2012.

[abyssion1337]

I wouldn't say that it will be easy to predict a winner.

[Kaiju]

If it get's down to Obama or Romney, no it will not be easy.

[jeremyhac]

Every president out of late is a ****in' puppet

http://i43.tinypic.com/15xvbs6.gif

[jinzo64]

if they are puppets whos pulling the strings

[abyssion1337]

Santa Clause

[jinzo64]

i knew it
santas an evil genius