[SS_nyuu911_SS]

Ok i have been going to this site for years already and lots of you probably all ready no this site..

www.datorrents.com

its a wicked site with good forums and about 250,000 pictures!
8)

[asukafan8]

Awesome! ;D

[Filleraol]

i like boxtorrents.
and a few private trackers..

datorrents seems nice though. ^^

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

Awesome! ;D

yah dude i love this site,
theres a few creepy things in the gallery ???
but its still bangin!

[KazuoMM]

Recently the american government passed a bill
to act against the use of torrents

[abyssion1337]

Recently the american government passed a bill
to act against the use of torrents

So, they make lots of bills many of which go nowhere. This one will also fail.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

Recently the american government passed a bill
to act against the use of torrents

So, they make lots of bills many of which go nowhere. This one will also fail.

im with u there bro.....nothin will come of this bill

[Mawelli]

thank god i live in finland!! thrive torrents and piracy, thrive!!! :D

[Adjacent Badger]

thrive torrents and piracy, thrive!!! :D

Die, torrents and piracy, Die.
The more piracy, the harder to make business on creating the anime.

[1337uvis]

ohhh such mixed feelings on this one. I'd say die piracy too, but then again i bet there's not more than like two places (if there are that many) IN MY WHOLE COUNTRY i could actually BUY anime, so... Long live piracy...i guess

[Adjacent Badger]

Wouldn't you be able to buy it online or get someone to do it for you?

[1337uvis]

The shipping i bet would cost up to twice the price of the anime, unless it would be from an EU country. And hot dam, it's just soooo slower than the good ol' torrent way.

[abyssion1337]

Here's what most people do/should do, download but buy when you can.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

The shipping i bet would cost up to twice the price of the anime, unless it would be from an EU country. And hot dam, it's just soooo slower than the good ol' torrent way.

dude i order anime online all the time...
go to ebay or sumthin..
i got elfen lied series $13.99
love hina series $21.99
claymores $10.99 (for 5 episodes becuz it just came out)
and innocent venus $29.99 (higher price cuz it also just came out)

[yagsnave]

thrive torrents and piracy, thrive!!! :D

Die, torrents and piracy, Die.
The more piracy, the harder to make business on creating the anime.


True that. Production was down signifigantly in '07, partly because one of the major studios (Geneon) up and closed their animation studio. All the series they were working on (including Karin/Chibi Vampire) are still in Limbo as far as I know.

[Mawelli]

The shipping i bet would cost up to twice the price of the anime, unless it would be from an EU country. And hot dam, it's just soooo slower than the good ol' torrent way.

dude i order anime online all the time...
go to ebay or sumthin..
i got elfen lied series $13.99
love hina series $21.99
claymores $10.99 (for 5 episodes becuz it just came out)
and innocent venus $29.99 (higher price cuz it also just came out)

where do you come from? places such as finland it is very dificult to get any sort of anime/manga here...on top of that ordering does double the cost atleast..


Here's what most people do/should do, download but buy when you can.

i agree, once they finally come out in finland i do eventually buy them, eg i haz azumangas, school rumble, suzumiya, ghost in the shell series bought on dvd ^^

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

oooooooooooooo ok yah that makes a bit of a difference..
im residing in canada so i just pop onto the net and have endless amounts at my finger tips...
y does it cost so much to ship?
when i order it straight from japan its still cheap

[Filleraol]

shipping it here costs pretty much + I don't have much money.
so....so far all the anime i've watched I have downloaded.

I probably would buy anime if I could afford it, but download at the same time..

[acutekat]

i either download it or rent it from blockbuster their online service is amazing

[yagsnave]

Some series are on paid download sites. Death Note was put on one of them (I think direct2drive) in both Japanese and English right after the Japanese episodes' premieres. No shipping costs there.

[Filleraol]

Some series are on paid download sites. Death Note was put on one of them (I think direct2drive) in both Japanese and English right after the Japanese episodes' premieres. No shipping costs there.

really? i didn't know that, but it sounds great.
I'll check it out.

[Adjacent Badger]

Some series are on paid download sites. Death Note was put on one of them (I think direct2drive) in both Japanese and English right after the Japanese episodes' premieres. No shipping costs there.


Are you sure, that it is a licenced download site, that they are not selling fansubs?

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

yah lots of them sell fan subs...
and those can suck.

[Adjacent Badger]

yah lots of them sell fan subs...
and those can suck.


That's even worse than downloading. Making a profit on what (in many cases, at least) should never have been made in the first place, but was at least done for more or less altruistic purposes.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

i also have a dream badger....
PERFECT, UNROTTEN, ANIME!!!!!

[Useful]

Netflix.

All I have to say. I also download, but only when it's not on Netflix. You should see if there's a similar service in Europe. I wouldn't be surprised if there was, considering how awesome Europe usually is.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

europe is sweet....
nude beaches aplenty
BAHA!
jk...
the food is off the chain

[Useful]

Yes, I prefer it that way: you don't have to bite around the links.

What was the purpose of this thread anyway? Oh, never mind.

So have I been helpful? Or did I just recommend an evil monthly service that will forever drain your pocketbook?

[yagsnave]

Death Note was put on a licensed site right away. It was mentioned in an article I read about copyright violations and piracy in the anime/manga industry. The thing that made DN special was how fast it was put on a site for legitimate online sale. You could actually buy the dubbed version before it was on Cartoon Network.

[Mawelli]

Ooh and also there are no anime channels here in Finland. You either have to pay alot to see them =/ also about fansubbing, where else are we, the non-japanese people supposed to know if we like a anime or not. The japanese have the possibility to watch it of tv, and then buy the dvd's. We get the dvd's atleast a year late here, with no idea is the anime good, unless we have watched it by downloading. If i think the show is good and it gets licensed i buy it.



Death Note was put on a licensed site right away. It was mentioned in an article I read about copyright violations and piracy in the anime/manga industry. The thing that made DN special was how fast it was put on a site for legitimate online sale. You could actually buy the dubbed version before it was on Cartoon Network.

But then again you have to pay for the anime before you even know will you like it, which troubles me. Thats why I buy after ive seen do i like it ^^

[Useful]

But then again you have to pay for the anime before you even know will you like it, which troubles me. Thats why I buy after ive seen do i like it ^^


Well, not to be obvious, but that's basically not something you had to worry about with Death Note. You can just find a blogger with similar tastes to you and roll with their opinions. Or use a few blogs, like I do.

[Mawelli]

But then again you have to pay for the anime before you even know will you like it, which troubles me. Thats why I buy after ive seen do i like it ^^


Well, not to be obvious, but that's basically not something you had to worry about with Death Note. You can just find a blogger with similar tastes to you and roll with their opinions. Or use a few blogs, like I do.

But then again ive done that ^^ it does give good results sometimes but not always. In the end seeing it yourself is the key in my opinion. explosm.net ---> Mr. Obvious xD

[yagsnave]

But then again you have to pay for the anime before you even know will you like it, which troubles me. Thats why I buy after ive seen do i like it ^^


Well, not to be obvious, but that's basically not something you had to worry about with Death Note. You can just find a blogger with similar tastes to you and roll with their opinions. Or use a few blogs, like I do.

But then again ive done that ^^ it does give good results sometimes but not always. In the end seeing it yourself is the key in my opinion. explosm.net ---> Mr. Obvious xD


With Gunslinger Girl and and GTO I watched a bit of them illegally and bought them later after liking them. Still waiting for a slim set of Haruhi to come out though.

[Adjacent Badger]

Bodyguards are several pages gone and the talk went from Azumanga to accessing anime.

Talking about accessing anime, this was posted on a danish forum not long ago. My translation.

Studio Gonzo has announced that their two most recent series, "The Tower of Druaga: the Aegis of Uruk" and "Blassreiter" will be streamed online, internationally and subbed in English, the same day as the are aired in Japan.

It will be YouTube, CrunchyRoll og BOST that will do the streaming, which will be free, though all three services are permitted to require payment for higher quality versions.

As far as I've heard, BOST has the best quality.

It is not only fansubbers that has dreamt of this, but all animefans, so one can only hope, that it goes well and not only makes Gonzo continue, but also get the other large companies onto the idea, with both new and older titles.

Druaga will start 4. april og Blassreiter 5. april. meaning the first episodes are out now

Gonzo has taken this rather remarkable initiative to go against the widespread fansubbing. So it will be interesting to see, if the series will still appear as fansubs.

[Mawelli]

Bodyguards are several pages gone and the talk went from Azumanga to accessing anime.

Talking about accessing anime, this was posted on a danish forum not long ago. My translation.

Studio Gonzo has announced that their two most recent series, "The Tower of Druaga: the Aegis of Uruk" and "Blassreiter" will be streamed online, internationally and subbed in English, the same day as the are aired in Japan.

It will be YouTube, CrunchyRoll og BOST that will do the streaming, which will be free, though all three services are permitted to require payment for higher quality versions.

As far as I've heard, BOST has the best quality.

It is not only fansubbers that has dreamt of this, but all animefans, so one can only hope, that it goes well and not only makes Gonzo continue, but also get the other large companies onto the idea, with both new and older titles.

Druaga will start 4. april og Blassreiter 5. april. meaning the first episodes are out now

Gonzo has taken this rather remarkable initiative to go against the widespread fansubbing. So it will be interesting to see, if the series will still appear as fansubs.



Indeed something ive been waiting for atleast ^^ TY Studio Gonzo for starting this finally...

[Useful]

Well, simply attacking it won't do anything. They have to do something that will convince people that it's a better idea to pay or do something that generates revenue than go for the fansubs. I still go for the higher quality when it's an affordable choice, so they (like Netflix) have the possibility of catching me.

[yagsnave]

Well, simply attacking it won't do anything. They have to do something that will convince people that it's a better idea to pay or do something that generates revenue than go for the fansubs. I still go for the higher quality when it's an affordable choice, so they (like Netflix) have the possibility of catching me.


I'm just hoping the anime industry doesn't go the route of the 1990s RIAA. If the next few waves of less abrasive measures fail then things might start going down that road.

[Jazean]

I apologize.

I watch fansubs.

Sadly, alot of them are things i can't find in the stores around me.
If i had a better job and didn't have to spend so much money on feeding myself and putting gas in my car, I would buy more series (the quality is much better).


and i love Gonzo, they do good subs, i wish more places did what they're doing.


anyone know how TV shows make money, or how they track how many people are watching for ratings?

[DicyDax]

Here's what most people do/should do, download but buy when you can.
That's what I do.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

Here's what most people do/should do, download but buy when you can.
That's what I do.


ya thats exactly what i do to :)

[Adjacent Badger]

By the way. Play.com and cd-wow.com has free delivery worldwide. Bookdepository.co.uk has it to, but they're only into books (including manga).

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

By the way. Play.com and cd-wow.com has free delivery worldwide. Bookdepository.co.uk has it to, but they're only into books (including manga).


i like for veoh.com for anime

[Mawelli]

By the way. Play.com and cd-wow.com has free delivery worldwide. Bookdepository.co.uk has it to, but they're only into books (including manga).


i like for veoh.com for anime

veoh is ok, though i prefer torrents...

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

By the way. Play.com and cd-wow.com has free delivery worldwide. Bookdepository.co.uk has it to, but they're only into books (including manga).


i like for veoh.com for anime

veoh is ok, though i prefer torrents...


yah.
really, torrents are the best.
i just liek veoh becuz i can like watch a bit before hand to see if its good

[Useful]

Yeah, Veoh, or any stream, can be nice simply because you don't have to worry about disk space.

[Issitheus]

I like veoh for individual episodes but because of that damn 5 minute preview for longer videos i cant watch them. i have veohtv but it doesn't work, it says that i need a certain plugin that i have the most recent version of.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

weird....i have very very very few of those five minute episodes..
i get the full ones..

[Mawelli]

i downloaded like..all of rurouni kenshin and lucky star through veohtv, after that i started using torrents :D

[Inkwolf]

anyone know how TV shows make money, or how they track how many people are watching for ratings?


As far as I know...in the US, anyway...

I believe the network buys/leases series from the studio. The studio has to sell the concept to a network with a pilot episode or so before they can risk putting money into actually creating the show. Or, in other cases (like for programs advertising games or toys) a studio may actually be hired to create the show.

Then the TV station makes money with advertising. The more people watch the show, the more the network can charge the sponsors for ad time.

The studio can profit again if the show's reruns are bought for syndication or re-showing, and again by sales of video.

The only thing I know about tracking is the Neilsens. Members of the Neilsen family all have a tracking box where they report what they are watching. This is supposed to give an overview of what America in general is watching. Don;t know how tracking is done apart from that...

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

thats what she said!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Issitheus]

I think they do phone surveys to see how many people watch.

[abyssion1337]

they actually take certain families and hook up special devices to each tv in the house that lets them see what they are watching, the family gets paid for it too.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

sounds creepy,
id watch alot of soaps juss to piss em off

[Useful]

I think they do phone surveys to see how many people watch.

Actually, I can vouch for the truth of this method first hand. I got a phone call about the movies that I'd watched in the theater recently. It took about 20 minutes to do, and they just asked a whole bunch of questions. Kind of interesting, really. I don't know if they do the same for TV series, but I assume they probably do.

[abyssion1337]

really cause I know they do my method.

[Useful]

It actually makes sense that they do multiple methods. It gives them a wider sample size and allows them to make more accurate generalizations. Doesn't keep them from being total assholes though.

[Mawelli]

It actually makes sense that they do multiple methods. It gives them a wider sample size and allows them to make more accurate generalizations. Doesn't keep them from being total assholes though.

hahah true ^^ i got a questionaire about my TV usage and general shows and genres i like...never answered to it though, hate questionaires :D

[abyssion1337]

damn tv companies let's burn them.

[Useful]

Can we save extra kerosene for Fox? And 4Kids? They deserve to burn an especially long time... or maybe we should just set specific parts of their anatomy on fire: it'd be funnier to watch and they'd live longer >:D

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

are u a psychopath by any chance?
haha jk..
sounds fun.
im in

[Useful]

You're in WHAT!?!?!?

Just kidding, we should totally cause some property damage some time. I really hate how dishonest people can get when they get a little bit of power in their hands. If there was any one thing I could change about the world, it would be that.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

good call

[Mawelli]

alrighty then, let the "Burn all the tv companies and especially Fox and 4kids(these to be burned by slowly for extra pleasure) because of their opression of the society" operation begin!!

[acutekat]

they destroy annime

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

alrighty then, let the "Burn all the tv companies and especially Fox and 4kids(these to be burned by slowly for extra pleasure) because of their opression of the society" operation begin!!


for this mission call me "Agent Big Wenis"

[Useful]

Big FLAMING Wenis ;D

I have gas in my garage! And a lawn mower! Much fun to be had, Golgo 13 style!

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

speakin of gas....
i had to pay $60 to fill up my 50L tank on my car!
GASSS ISS SOOOOO EXSPENSIVE!!!!!

[yagsnave]

speakin of gas....
i had to pay $60 to fill up my 50L tank on my car!
GASSS ISS SOOOOO EXSPENSIVE!!!!!


So nice having an apartment that's within biking distance of downtown. I don't have to waste fuel on stupid little short trips.

[Adjacent Badger]

speakin of gas....
i had to pay $60 to fill up my 50L tank on my car!
GASSS ISS SOOOOO EXSPENSIVE!!!!!


That's damn cheap. In Denmark gasoline cost more than $2 per liter.

Wait, doesn't America use gallons?

[Issitheus]

Yes and here gas is approaching $4 a gallon
if i did the math right then thats about $15.14 per liter

[Infinity]

Yes and here gas is approaching $4 a gallon
if i did the math right then thats about $15.14 per liter


Youch!! thats expensive, I pay about $1.50 litre (talking australian money) but how would you compare it with American money, or Danish money :-\

still FUEL IS GETTING EXPENSIVE!!!

[1337uvis]

Yes and here gas is approaching $4 a gallon
if i did the math right then thats about $15.14 per liter

*cough* gallon is more than a litre so that is mathematically impossible *cough*
in Lithuania gas is 1.1 Euro/liter... that sucks....

[Filleraol]

Yes and here gas is approaching $4 a gallon
if i did the math right then thats about $15.14 per liter

*cough* gallon is more than a litre so that is mathematically impossible *cough*
in Lithuania gas is 1.1 Euro/liter... that sucks....

here it costs almost 13 SEK now...which is about 1,4 euro...
i hate gas prizes...

[1337uvis]

yeah, well, but paying 1.4 euros/litre isn't as painful when youre getting ~ 3.5k euros / month as paying 1.1 / litre when your getting 1k euros/month...

[Mawelli]

yeah depends on your salary, but I believe that we all can conclude on the fact that gas prices are expensive

[1337uvis]

i think i might just make an amv on that on amv /0, under "horror/gore/ultimate offensiveness"

[Filleraol]

i would be glad if i got 1k euro/Month.
i get about 700 euro..but then i'm a student, so...?h w/e.
the prize is high anyway ;D

[Mawelli]

yeah i would be glad to get 1k euro a month too :D im a student also ;D

[1337uvis]

yeah, well, in Lithuania the country gives students 40 (FOURTY) euros a month! I'd rather they didn't give anything, because its just sooo shameful xD
P.S. There are rumours that one student lived of that for two months (61 days), passed all the exams, and on the way home he was picked up by a crow and fed to its children. ;D

[Useful]

Alright, I did a bit of googling, and $4 a gallon converts to .68 Euros a liter. Which makes sense considering the Euro=>Dollar exchange rate is just over 1.5 now. Also, the U.S. produces a lot of oil, we just consume more than we produce. Most of western Europe produces basically none, and so has to buy it all from Russia and Africa. So no matter how much we bitch and moan, the U.S. will probably continue to have lower prices.

[Adjacent Badger]

Alright, I did a bit of googling, and $4 a gallon converts to .68 Euros a liter. Which makes sense considering the Euro=>Dollar exchange rate is just over 1.5 now. Also, the U.S. produces a lot of oil, we just consume more than we produce. Most of western Europe produces basically none, and so has to buy it all from Russia and Africa. So no matter how much we bitch and moan, the U.S. will probably continue to have lower prices.


Add thereto, that gasoline is subject to cosierable taxation in many European countries.

[Filleraol]

yeah, well, in Lithuania the country gives students 40 (FOURTY) euros a month! I'd rather they didn't give anything, because its just sooo shameful xD
P.S. There are rumours that one student lived of that for two months (61 days), passed all the exams, and on the way home he was picked up by a crow and fed to its children. ;D

lol :P

and I should've mentioned that I'm a student at college level too (called h?gskola in swe), so i live alone and stuff now, and take loans and stuff so...yeah...I need money :P

[yagsnave]

yeah, well, in Lithuania the country gives students 40 (FOURTY) euros a month! I'd rather they didn't give anything, because its just sooo shameful xD
P.S. There are rumours that one student lived of that for two months (61 days), passed all the exams, and on the way home he was picked up by a crow and fed to its children. ;D

lol :P

and I should've mentioned that I'm a student at college level too (called h?gskola in swe), so i live alone and stuff now, and take loans and stuff so...yeah...I need money :P


If I lived in Europe right now I'd totally try and moonlight as a male escort. I kind of doubt I'd get much business though.

[Filleraol]

yeah, well, in Lithuania the country gives students 40 (FOURTY) euros a month! I'd rather they didn't give anything, because its just sooo shameful xD
P.S. There are rumours that one student lived of that for two months (61 days), passed all the exams, and on the way home he was picked up by a crow and fed to its children. ;D

lol :P

and I should've mentioned that I'm a student at college level too (called h?gskola in swe), so i live alone and stuff now, and take loans and stuff so...yeah...I need money :P


If I lived in Europe right now I'd totally try and moonlight as a male escort. I kind of doubt I'd get much business though.

hahaha xD . you're probably right....but there are a lot of weird and scary old men here actually..
and the girls may be pretty, but they are so boring and shallow....but if you put alcohol in them, then maybe ( a LOT of it)

[Useful]

Alright, I did a bit of googling, and $4 a gallon converts to .68 Euros a liter. Which makes sense considering the Euro=>Dollar exchange rate is just over 1.5 now. Also, the U.S. produces a lot of oil, we just consume more than we produce. Most of western Europe produces basically none, and so has to buy it all from Russia and Africa. So no matter how much we bitch and moan, the U.S. will probably continue to have lower prices.


Add thereto, that gasoline is subject to cosierable taxation in many European countries.

The U.S. has a gas tax too, it just isn't as large. We are behind on environmental initiatives after all.

[Filleraol]

I mostly walk everywhere, if it isn't too far..
I wish the prizes were as they were in the 80's - 90's or something

[Issitheus]

i found these on photobucket...

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff311/malix05/gas_prices.jpg http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p93/sriveroc/No%20McSame/Gas_Prices_.jpg

[acutekat]

nice

although oil realy isn't the problem in the gold ol' u s of a its the refining of it into gasoline

we haven't built a refinery in over 2 decades if we did it would be a whole hell of a lot cheaper

and enviromental intiatives be damned they have killed off nuclear power in the US

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

Yes and here gas is approaching $4 a gallon
if i did the math right then thats about $15.14 per liter


HAHA no thats impossible...gas is cheaper in the USA than in canada!
i just wa sin the states and we figured it out....
its about $1.20 per litre

[Issitheus]

Yes and here gas is approaching $4 a gallon
if i did the math right then thats about $15.14 per liter


HAHA no thats impossible...gas is cheaper in the USA than in canada!
i just wa sin the states and we figured it out....
its about $1.20 per litre

search your feelings... you know it to be true.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

Issi buddy ur confusing me!
WHAT DO U MEAN!??
lmao

[Issitheus]

I was quoting star wars, which i now know you dont like. which explains your reaction.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

lol oooooooooooooooook!
hey hey hey
i can respect u for liking it...
its got a good story..
its just that whole space thing is not for me..
thats y i hate futuristic, spacy, sci-fi animes!

[yagsnave]

I was quoting star wars, which i now know you dont like. which explains your reaction.


The Empire Strikes back to be precise. Best of the series IMO.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

yah....
the best....
;D

[abyssion1337]

I'm not sure but I haven't seen any of them in a while. the best Indiana Jones movie was The last crusade though.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

i was kidding i actually hate star wars..
NEW INDIANA JONES MOVIE!!!

[Filleraol]

Looking forward to the Indiana Jones movie.
Lots of old actors doing sequels to old classic movies nowadays..
I love it though.

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

im pumped for that movie becuz of shia labeouf..
after watching Disturbia he is one of my fav actors!

[Luppi-tan]

Greetings all. Please visit this site at least once.
http://www.mentaleak.com

[Mawelli]

Oo adverts..its been a while ^^

[Issitheus]

Umm... I advertise for the SIT Forums... check my sigs...

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

i thought that was a sig for a cult this whole time.....
my world has been turned upside down....

[Issitheus]

my world has been turned upside down....

oop, sorry. that was me. *flips world back over*

[SS_nyuu911_SS]

you ruffigan! now i have to clean up all the dishes!
DISHES ARE BREAKING! ( i think thats how it goes)
rihanna is hot!