[The Ever Strange Look]

Given that there's plenty of people here with their views on anime, with a good few showing good video editing skills - why isn't there a push for a community-created review made by this site?

My proposal is this:-

A panel of 3 or 4 people providing audio commentary for a segment of between 5 and 10 minutes discussing a particular series, OVA or movie. They each give their score out of 10 and actual score is given as an average. Obviously such a thing can't really be made every week, everyone has their own things to do, so perhaps we could manage a review every month or so.

Now there are quite a few holes in this and I can imagine some would come up with reasons why it hasn't been suggested (to my knowledge) up until now. But its nice to have some thoughts on the matter.

[1337uvis]

now that is quite a nice of an idea. Since we are the hellmates, we could post those reviews on youtube. Possibly fun, not that stupid of an idea.

[Issitheus]

via Ventrilo or something?

[1337uvis]

yes. via ventrilo, while recording the conversation, then a bit of audio editing from my side and voila.
Tough **** though, it's gonna be hard to gater in real-time because of SOME time differences ;) but i think this time about now is quite good, it's late evening in Europe, maybe the American side is already in the afternoon?

[Issitheus]

about 3:00 EST

[1337uvis]

hm... the time difference there IS :D

[The Ever Strange Look]

Well I'm glad you see it that way :D

The time difference is an issue, one would have to remedy this somehow. A set time would be best really to get the audio from each of the commentators seeming as most of us are spread from the Americas to Europe. Perhaps those who can't do so can have their own little segement perhaps? One which is recorded seperately?

[Issitheus]

And at around 3 im the only one home... I can curse!

[Useful]

Hmmm... and we can count Abys out because by her voice we would be able to tell what gender she is :-\.

Where would we start?

[1337uvis]

hahhah just got a great idea - i can have (if i want) a great russian/french/australian accent that sounds really fun. :D

[Jazean]

brillant idea, just please no major spoilers...

AMVHell seems to of branched into so many things... who would of thought...

[The Ever Strange Look]

hahhah just got a great idea - i can have (if i want) a great russian/french/australian accent that sounds really fun. :D


*in heavy russian accent*

"yes we make veeeerrrrrrry good reviews. Cost many rubles. Availible for everyone except Georgians. You don't like it? Don't Watch! Drink Vodka instead! Don't like Vodka? SCREW YOU!"

*makes toothless grin

I think we should really stick to our own natural accents - it'll be bad enough with American, British and Lithuanian accents in the mix, no offence intended.:P

@Useful (I'll apologise if it was a j/k) - and the lack of external reproductive organs excludes Abys from joining because...?

@Jazean - Yes, I definately agree with having no major spoilers - we don't want to ruin things for people who haven't watched. Then again, we would have the power of audio editing for that.

As for how we would do this; I think it would be best to have a format worked out for the show as a whole and have the relevant materials created before deciding on an anime to review. That way we can streamline our production time to make sure we can do a monthly review. I'm not saying we homogenise or have it all samey, but if the reviews are going to be a regular appearence then we would need to sacrifice some episode originality for the sake of time-saving. Some of you may disagree with that, but we all know how long each the AMV Hells took to make, and the beleaguered AMV Blitz (as much as I look forward to it I add) is another example of a very long project because of the large amount of unique material involved.

Of course, a name would be good as well - so if anyone has a suggestion just highlight it in bold at the end or beginning of your posts in this topic, then we can all have a vote later on in a month or so's time. The same goes for ideas for a general format to the reviews.

Just to clarify for the benefit of those who aren't sure or don't know, by a format I mean how the reviews arrange their materials, what they cover, and how they cover it. For example:

->Intro
->Main Body of Review - with topics including but not limited to:

Plot
Animation
Sound
General opinions
Scoring

->Credits

Now to clarify on the main body of the review, I'm not suggesting a rigid topic by topic structure; what I am suggesting is a mostly unscripted audio discussion on a series that hits on these points. The discussion as I've said will be between 3 or 4 people, via Ventrilo as Lietuvis has suggested or by Skype/Teamspeak and audio edited to suit.

Visually I'm thinking that in the background we would of course have clips of the series concerned playing out, either in their original form or in a comedic arrangement, along with simplistic stills for the same comedic effect (if you don't know what I'm talking about, watch some of Yathzee's Zero Punctuation Reviews http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation). In the foreground, I've two ideas based on the same theme.

1) We have 3/4 characters, each corresponding to a reviewer around a table. Who or what the character is the decision of the actual reviewer (so in Iss's case, A Chiyo-chan). Each avatar, if you will, has some facial expressions to help liven up the dialogue, wide eyes for suprise, water-drop for embarressment, you get the idea - and if possible, some lip-sync to dialogue. I'm not saying word to word dialogue, just the mouth opening and shutting and some basic shapes. All this is composited onto the background using the likes of Adobe Premiere.

2) Still with the avatars, but instead of a table, just a window per avatar along the bottom of the screen is shown.

Name idea:Irksome Reviews

[1337uvis]

I originally do not have a "Lithuanian" accent, apart from mixing british and american accents into one :D

And your ideas are not beyond technical possibilities as far as i am concerned.

I think the name "Hellmates' Reviews" would be better, since most of people that know anime, know amv hell too ;)

[Mawelli]

I possible wont join in this discussion, I would just like to come and listen to it on vent once you decide when you are going to do it. I also thinks that this sounds like fun,.

[Filleffs]

cool idea, it would be fun to listen to the discussion, I doubt anyone would like to hear my horrible accent.

[The Ever Strange Look]

We're going to have 4 people having a nearly freeform discussion over ventrilo - accents don't matter, as long as you speak clearly.

[Filleffs]

alright, then maybe I could join. I can speak clearly but just in a weird swedish accent. Then the only problem would be the latency?
Maybe we could set up a channel sometime just to see how high it is?

[Mawelli]

I have a good accent in english, I'm just poor at formulating any kind of real satisfactory oppinions :D but I definately want to listen to the conversation, maybe pitch in with some random comments, as always :P

[The Ever Strange Look]

Filleraol could be our random meatball that appears in the corner of the screen! :P

As for latency issues, hmm. That is a point, I mean if pings stay in the >100 region then we'll be fine but over that I can see where that could turn into a problem. Still, I've never heard of ventrilo suffering from the echo effect that Skype sometimes suffers. I'd hate to pull an MLK.

"I HAVE A DREAM dream dream dream

[Ionzorg]

This will be silly, I can tell, considering it is us. But I also think it would be awesome, just as long as we have decent speaking abilities, and if not, we'll do it anyway. :)

[Filleffs]

;D

I've never used skype, only vent and teamspeak.
I like teamspeak alot
@ zorg, it will be awesome indeed ^^
It will be fun just hearing everyones vioces, and discussing anime

[The Ever Strange Look]

Hilarity will ensue I'm sure of it. I'll have to excuse myself from the audio for the first episode though, I doubt that I'll have internet by the time I get back to uni. That's not to say others can't have a go though ;)

[Luppi-tan]

What are skype and zorg?

[The Ever Strange Look]

Skype is a free internet telephone service. I've no idea about Zorg, it may well be along the same lines.

[Filleffs]

zorg is just a nickname for Ionzorg =P

[Ionzorg]

Yes, the results of my being such a frequent absentee are starting to show. ::)

[The Ever Strange Look]

Now I feel stupid :(

[Mawelli]

Now I feel stupid :(

Welcome to the AMVHell Forums! ^^

[The Ever Strange Look]

lol, true, true.

At anyrate, I'd like to further discuss actually making the shows with you all. In order to pull it off everyone would have to take a job each (that is those that want to help of course) so that each show gets done as quickly as possible.

The jobs are as follows:-

AUDIO:-

--Audio Editing/Mixing: This person will have to help record the uncut sound of the Reviewers and edit it to fit the ideal time frame. Audio experience required.

--Audio Sync (lip sync)[Actually video based] (x4): With each Avatar needing some level of lip sync and expression, someone with this job would have to animate the avatar they're responsible for. Audio experience required.

--Reviewer (x4): Self explainitory really, however, if chosen a Reviewer must watch the anime in question, regardless of personal opinion, in its entirety - prior to recording. They must also have a small points list of their thoughts on the anime to stop the discussion going too much off the rails; and to save whoever's in charge of Audio Mixing a lot of hassle. No major requirements, just speak clearly. Mutes need not apply.

VIDEO:-

--Background Plates: In change of creating the still background plates that will help bulk out the video. Some creative humour and experience with an image editing program (preferably photoshop), required.

--Background Mixing: Takes clips of said anime along with the completed background plates and stitches it all together into one 5-10 minute sequence ready for compositing by Project Composite. Must take into account that the bottom of the video is taken by the foreground. Video editing skilled required.

--Foreground Mixing: Takes the fully lipsynced avatars from Audio Sync and composites them together in another 5-10 minute sequence ready for compositing. The width of the seqence must be the same as the Background sequence, but only a fraction of the height. Video editing skills required.

--Project Composite: Composites both the Foreground and Background sequences together with the Introduction and Credits and adds any further effects needed. Video editing skills required.

--Project Encoding: Takes the entire sequence and renders off the video. No major skills required, but a reasonably powerful PC to help with the speed of the encode is a bonus.

The jobs listed are those which are continuous jobs.

[The Ever Strange Look]

Now for the temporary jobs that mainly concern themselves with creating the initial media:

--Introduction sequence: Must be between 10-45 seconds in length, show the name of the show. Otherwise, creative license is all yours.

--Credits sequence: Same MO as the Intro sequence, just without the name of the show.

--Avatar creation: Now either one person does them all or 4 people do one avatar each. Each avatar must be simple, and fit in a 100x100 pixel box. To help with animation its prefered that once the avatar is created you must also do the expressions and mouth shapes (but very simple ones mind). Photoshop knowledge is a must for this.

I can't think of any more jobs related to creating initial media. You guys have any ideas?

[Mawelli]

Wow you've really put a lot of thought into this :O From all of these different jobs I may be able to only do the reviewers job, as I has no real editing skills of any kind :D

[Filleffs]

I think this idea is awesome.
About the "jobs", I'm pretty confident in photoshop (well, a little at least), but about the lipsynching part...I'm a little lost there. Are we gonna sync our avatars to when we speak in the review? that could take a while

[The Ever Strange Look]

I'm not suggesting by any measure that one would have all the phenomes known to man to make the speech believable, just an open, half-open and closed mouth shape is fair enough to get on by, perhaps one with gritted teeth to show anger and a round shape for prolonged "ooo" sounds". Not particularly complicated by any stretch of the imagination.

Perhaps another permenant job should be added to the list:

-> Transcriber: takes the dialogue recorded and picks it apart in order to note down when each avatar needs to make a mouth shape. For example:

00:20:34 ->closed
00:20:38 ->open
00:20:42 ->gritted teeth

etc. It may well take a while, so if 2 people work on it at the same time doing 2 reviewers each it should take off a few days off the production time.

To those who'll do the avatars themselves its worth noting that knowledge of layers in Photoshop as essential, it'll make the animator's job that much simpler. As for lipsyncing Filleraol it doesn't necessarily have to be you doing it; there are other PS jobs - which one interests you most?

And now to list offers:

REVIEWER: Mawelli

P.S. anyone who just walked in on this, look on the second page of the topic, towards the bottom, all shall be explained.

[Mawelli]

yay i got a job :D for all the details on the reviewing please PM.

[Ionzorg]

If we wanted to do the animation in Flash, I'm actually very skilled at it. I made a few-minute long parody of Forrest Gump for my Comm-Tech class last year, in addition to all the other random Flash crap I used to do on the side. I've also become particularly good at lip-syncing. If anyone wants to see the parody for reference/proof I guess I could like, email it to you or something...

[The Ever Strange Look]

That is just the sort of skills set we need 'Zorg. Feel free to post your old project up on photobucket or something, I'm sure it'll be a good watch.

I'm not too familiar with flash myself, does it allow compositing of the foreground avatars with the background video? Also, doesn't it suffer from colour degradation with video? I'm not ruling it out of course, its just that there're a few more people experienced with Premiere than Flash if you get what I mean. That being said if you want to animate in Flash then there's nothing stopping you from doing so. I'm sure Premiere can use flash files as well. It'll be something I'll have to check.

I'd like to be a reviewer myself but I'd gladly take one of the background jobs if more than four people are interested. One thing I'm definately interested in is creating the introduction segment, some 3D goodness a'la AMVHell 3 anyone?

Also what happened to the name suggestions? All we have is "Irksome Reviews" and "Hellmates Reviews", come one people, get those creative juices flowing!

Jobs filled are:

REVIEWER: Mawelli
REVIEWER: ESL (subject to further applications from people)
INTRODUCTION: ESL (me)

[Ionzorg]

Yeah, I've never used Premier before, not sure what that's like...In any case, I couldn't upload the video to Photobucket because I can't upload .swf with a free account, but here's a screenshot. Perhaps I'll get to converting the video somehow and we shall see.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i304/Ionzorg/Gumpscreenshot.jpg

As for names...I've really got nothing. As for the introduction, 3D goodness has several thumbs up from me, if you're up for doing it. :D Go nuts.

[The Ever Strange Look]

What I'm thinking for your flash is that perhaps you do each character seperately, and then someone else could bring the flashes into Premiere and place them into the video. That is if Premiere allows .swf import. I'm sure it does though.

Don't worry about the 3D, I do modelling as par my university course. Shall I use a 3D corn cob or an Osaka as a logo?

[Filleffs]

If I'm allowed, I'd like to be one of the reviewers. I like to talk and discuss anime with people. ^^
How about vent room and stuff? I might be able to get a room on a 100/100 fiber server (located in sweden though).

[Mawelli]

I'm all go for sweden! Not too far away from my place :D And yes give fille a reviewers job if possible. Swedenglish is so nice...

Question about those avatars you were talking about. So basically we would need to create different sizes for the mouths of an avatar e.g. Osaka as an avatar?

On the name issue, im really hitting blanks so I'll have to give it a bit more thought. Maybe something cool will come up while doing all this brain wrecking essays :D

[Ionzorg]

Well, whatever you need me to do, I'm in. ;D

[Mawelli]

Well, whatever you need me to do, I'm in. ;D


summersaults, lots of them...

[The Ever Strange Look]

If I'm allowed, I'd like to be one of the reviewers. I like to talk and discuss anime with people. ^^
How about vent room and stuff? I might be able to get a room on a 100/100 fiber server (located in sweden though).


At the risk of sounding incredibly dim and n00bish: vent room?

That being said some online storage where everyone can get materials involved would be a good idea.

[Mawelli]

Ventrilo, online voice chat program. Same as Teamspeak basically, or Skype. But better than Skype.

Google it ^^

[The Ever Strange Look]

Ah yes *face slaps self*. Sorry I had a senior moment. Anyway:



Question about those avatars you were talking about. So basically we would need to create different sizes for the mouths of an avatar e.g. Osaka as an avatar?

On the name issue, im really hitting blanks so I'll have to give it a bit more thought. Maybe something cool will come up while doing all this brain wrecking essays :D


That's basically it. An avatar of your chosing with mouths of a different size giving the impression of speech. Not unlike the anime we watch. For instance, if it were Issy, then his avatar would be a talking picture of Chiyo-Chan, if you catch my meaning.

As for names it would seem that "Hellmate's Reviews" is going to be the de facto choice. I know I said we were going to wait for a month, but nobody seems to have come up with any other suggestions. All those in favour, say aye!

Fillerol, you can gladly be a reviewer :D And how does being in charge of Transcripting and lipsync sound Zorg?

Jobs filled are:

PERMENANT

REVIEWER 01: Mawelli
REVIEWER 02: ESL (subject to further applications from people)
REVIEWER 03: Filleroal
TRANSCRIPTING: IonZorg
LIPSYNC: IonZorg

TEMP

INTRODUCTION: ESL


By the way, possible Reviewers, you can do more than one job if you so wish.

[Mawelli]

I can be the random idea guy, and the reciever of trash talk :D Since I have really no other fucntion than reviwer atm :P

[Filleffs]

Sounds great ;D
Only thing: everyone seems to spell my nickname as "Filleroal" nowadays, when it's Filleraol =(
It happens in several forums :P
And, can I use my avatar that I have here in the forum? it's a drawing that's supposed to look like me, so I have it in bigger size too if it's needed =P

[The Ever Strange Look]

That'll be fine, as long as you make the parts that allow the animator to make it speak and make expressions. For expressions? Do as many as you feel is comfortable. But make sure you keep the mouth shapes to a minimum.

[Mawelli]

Just a thought. May not be necessary since we, at AMVHell Forums always stay on topic and are the most intelligent of people. But we either need a really well structured framwork on our topic or some kind of 'host' for the talk. Otherwise I see a random flow of comments flowing in, and makes it harder to structure and compile for the audio editing - rest of the editing.

With 'host' I mean maybe each of us reviwers taking the turn as to guide the conversation when it gets too off topic, or when we need to move on, or when we want to talk about a certain aspect of the anime presently being discussed.

[The Ever Strange Look]

That is a rather good point, it would be prudent to have some sort of turn-system in place. Moving from one person to the next. It would make Zorg's job that much easier. Maybe we could even have sections within the review that concern themselves with aspects of the anime itself, such as plot, presentation etc etc.

[Mawelli]

Yeah, some kind of structure is in place. With turn-system I was thinking like each episode of review. So during the review we wound't have to rely too much on turns, just maybe a little :D but being the guide of the conversation would more take turns during each different review session.

[The Ever Strange Look]

Hmm, this structure needs a wee bit of development. Could you deal with that Maw?

[Mawelli]

Sure, I can think of some basic structure and the way the 'host' of the episode would lead the converstaion. But ofcourse to ensure the AMVHellness of the discussion we have to stay clear of too many restrictive ideas.

Still I'll give it my 2 cents... (if i remember the saying correctly :P)

Oh and we should definately just have a 'hanging out' talking session on vent, or ts which ever we use before doing the review cause the most annoying thing ever is when you go from typing to speaking and your unable to say anything to the other person youv'e been typing with for ages :D also it would be nice to know the voices of each reviwer so that it is easier to refer to them during the review

(useless self-evident rants once again)

[Luppi-tan]

When would we begin this rating system?

[The Ever Strange Look]

That's a good question, ideally we'd want one for the end of Sept/beginning of October, but realistically I'd say mid-October. The reason I say this is because I'm going back to uni in mid Sept, and need to get a net connection of my own before we start recording.

[Pink_Nipple]

Maybe you need some music.....i could try.... ::)

[Mawelli]

What is this music you are talking abouT!:O

[The Ever Strange Look]

Indeed, what type of music you speak of?

[Luppi-tan]

Definitely we should have Safety Dance by Men Without Hats and the Cancer Song by Panic! At the Disco

[Pink_Nipple]

i mean background music ;D
i thought if you need FLASH animation you need music too.
BTW i dont know definitely what are you talking about cuz i'm confuzed but is this a video rewiew?

[Luppi-tan]

Jesu, Joy of Man's Desire? Fur Elise? Bach's 5th Symphony? I dunny about background music. Maybe Ichirin no Hana from Bleach

[Mawelli]

4 Hellmates review one anime show.

[Luppi-tan]

Sounds good to me.

[Pink_Nipple]

so it's a VIDEO review? :D

[The Ever Strange Look]

Yep, its a video review.

As for your BG music idea it'd be best if you can find songs which are relevant to the anime in question, either by a direct link, or because the link is comedic ("Fly me to the Moon" with NGE anyone?). That being said it'd be better to avoid extremely heavy music; it may be to some people's tastes but it'll 1) muffle the reviewers, 2) It'll just make the video a wall of noise, and 3) reeks of n00bness - who are you going to take more seriously? A review that's funny but not OTT or the review that makes you cringe?

At least that's my opinion.

[Pink_Nipple]

Actually i thougth about hand-made music, not (c)-ed.
But now i understand that the idea was stupid.
Try to forget about it :D

[The Ever Strange Look]

Hand-made music? That's not a stupid idea, far from it.

[Luppi-tan]

Handmade, as in music that we mix ourselves?

[The Ever Strange Look]

I think what Nipple is getting at is that he could make/mix custom music for the project himself.

[Pink_Nipple]

Yes...something like opening theme i think... :D

[Luppi-tan]

That works too.

[The Ever Strange Look]

In which case Nipple I'll PM you and we can bounce ideas off eachother for the best audio/visual fit (I'm creating the intro segment you see). If you're up to it, do you want to do a credits soundtrack as well?

[Pink_Nipple]

I'm always glad to try but i can't guarrantee very good audio quality.
Cuz my soundcard sucks.

[Luppi-tan]

Can't be worse than youtube. Right?

[The Ever Strange Look]

As long as you can get the sound quality as high as you can get it then I doubt we'd mind. .wma quality (that's 64kbps/44kHz) will suit the bill just fine.

[Pink_Nipple]

Then i'll be waiting for some kind of hint. It will take about 2 days to write it then 2 days to learn/play/record it and then 2 days to upload it XD

[Mawelli]

Nice, now we have the music for this ^^

[Pink_Nipple]

Actually i don't have anything yet :D so don't be so happy
I'm not very talented.

[The Ever Strange Look]

No sweat, the rest of us aren't either.

[Luppi-tan]

Hey, I'm talented!!! Just not at computers

[The Ever Strange Look]

Do you want to fill in the last Reviewer slot Luppi?

[Mawelli]

No sweat, the rest of us aren't either.

Amen to that! No sweat just do the best you can and we'll get an AMVHell original :D

[The Ever Strange Look]

*sings*

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

*breaks glass*

ah.

Right, we're still looking for a 4th reviewer and other people to fill in the jobs that were detailed on page 2 of this topic. Come on people, you know you want to be involved!

[Issitheus]

if i can get computer back...

and im too lazy to check: how we doin this?

[The Ever Strange Look]

The jobs are as follows:-

AUDIO:-

--Audio Editing/Mixing: This person will have to help record the uncut sound of the Reviewers and edit it to fit the ideal time frame. Audio experience required.

--Audio Sync (lip sync)[Actually video based] (x4): With each Avatar needing some level of lip sync and expression, someone with this job would have to animate the avatar they're responsible for. Audio experience required.

--Reviewer (x4): Self explainitory really, however, if chosen a Reviewer must watch the anime in question, regardless of personal opinion, in its entirety - prior to recording. They must also have a small points list of their thoughts on the anime to stop the discussion going too much off the rails; and to save whoever's in charge of Audio Mixing a lot of hassle. No major requirements, just speak clearly. Mutes need not apply.

VIDEO:-

--Background Plates: In change of creating the still background plates that will help bulk out the video. Some creative humour and experience with an image editing program (preferably photoshop), required.

--Background Mixing: Takes clips of said anime along with the completed background plates and stitches it all together into one 5-10 minute sequence ready for compositing by Project Composite. Must take into account that the bottom of the video is taken by the foreground. Video editing skilled required.

--Foreground Mixing: Takes the fully lipsynced avatars from Audio Sync and composites them together in another 5-10 minute sequence ready for compositing. The width of the seqence must be the same as the Background sequence, but only a fraction of the height. Video editing skills required.

--Project Composite: Composites both the Foreground and Background sequences together with the Introduction and Credits and adds any further effects needed. Video editing skills required.

--Project Encoding: Takes the entire sequence and renders off the video. No major skills required, but a reasonably powerful PC to help with the speed of the encode is a bonus.


Now for the temporary jobs that mainly concern themselves with creating the initial media:

--Introduction sequence: Must be between 10-45 seconds in length, show the name of the show. Otherwise, creative license is all yours.

--Credits sequence: Same MO as the Intro sequence, just without the name of the show.

--Avatar creation: Now either one person does them all or 4 people do one avatar each. Each avatar must be simple, and fit in a 100x100 pixel box. To help with animation its prefered that once the avatar is created you must also do the expressions and mouth shapes (but very simple ones mind). Photoshop knowledge is a must for this.

I can't think of any more jobs related to creating initial media. You guys have any ideas

PERMENANT

REVIEWER 01: Mawelli
REVIEWER 02: ESL (subject to further applications from people)
REVIEWER 03: Filleroal
TRANSCRIPTING: IonZorg
LIPSYNC: IonZorg

TEMP

INTRODUCTION: ESL

[Issitheus]

-_-

i said i can probably be a reviewer...

and i meant what program will we use to communicate?

[Mawelli]

I can do my own avatar for that then

[The Ever Strange Look]

Sorry about that Issy, I had to rush that reply out before my net ended up going - which sucks oh so much (can't wait to have own net back).

We'll use Ventrilo, it works better than most, and one of us will record the audio from that.

[Issitheus]

ok.

and i was thinking that instead of the same people doing the reviews every time, we have a set cast, larger than 4 people, but we don't have the entire cast in each installment. like if i don't have computer access for the first one, someone else can do it, and i'm introduced in the second or so installment, and i'm not in every episode, and neither is anyone else. maybe we could have one person in every installment to keep it together, but... meh, just an idea.

[The Ever Strange Look]

That's a good idea, it'll certianly help with keeping the show sound fresh..ish

[Issitheus]

and maybe we could also release as audio podcasts... edited and unedited versions... edited is jst the review and unedited is the entire session... sans us watching it if we watch it during the session for some reason. (like i havent seen it)

[The Ever Strange Look]

I got the first half of that (which is good) but could you explain the last half a little more clearly?

[Pontaloy]

I registered today/yesterday :P so i don't really know any of you guys, but when i read about this project it got me interested. I could be a reviewer if wanted, but i don't know if you'll accept me ^^ since i haven't been an registered user to this site before. I have been aware of the site for quite some time though. Anyways, i'm up for the task :) but i understand if you want the more "known" people from the site to join instead of me.

[Issitheus]

would it really be a good idea to have 2 Sandstedts in it...

[Pontaloy]

OMFG who are you? xD Jimmy?

[Issitheus]

Filip told me. But I would have found out anyways. *mod*

[Pontaloy]

Haha yea you probably would xD he likes to pick on me alittle which i think will show sooner or later lol xD

[Issitheus]

no, actually. i already knew your surname, and filip told me that his brother had registered with your username. it's also clear that you are the younger of the two, and i'm gesing that filip does not live with you. i could be wrong, though. why are you up so late/early, anyways? it's around 4 am there, right?

[Filleffs]

I think Pontus could be a good replacement for me, if we were going to have a bigger cast than 4 people.
He's hot a pretty deep voice, and I think he's good at reviewing and talking (especially talking....)
And he's not that much younger than me, only 1,5 years


ok.

and i was thinking that instead of the same people doing the reviews every time, we have a set cast, larger than 4 people, but we don't have the entire cast in each installment. like if i don't have computer access for the first one, someone else can do it, and i'm introduced in the second or so installment, and i'm not in every episode, and neither is anyone else. maybe we could have one person in every installment to keep it together, but... meh, just an idea.

I like this idea



and maybe we could also release as audio podcasts... edited and unedited versions... edited is jst the review and unedited is the entire session... sans us watching it if we watch it during the session for some reason. (like i havent seen it)

This too...it could be fun listening to it unedited :P
When we're just talking nonsense or just fool around =P

[Pontaloy]

no, actually. i already knew your surname, and filip told me that his brother had registered with your username. it's also clear that you are the younger of the two, and i'm gesing that filip does not live with you. i could be wrong, though. why are you up so late/early, anyways? it's around 4 am there, right?

oh i see :) Yep i'm the youngest in the family, 18 years of age :P We both still live at home, but i'm currently helping out with our niece that got placed here, so i'm not planning to move out just yet, but it will happen sometime in the near future! lol ^^
And the reason i was up that late was because i'm a sad person xD no j/k. I was downloading and editing program for my Death Note AMV which i'm planning to make soon :) and i wanted to see how it worked. SCHWWWIIIINNNGGG!!! xD

[Filleffs]

no, actually. i already knew your surname, and filip told me that his brother had registered with your username. it's also clear that you are the younger of the two, and i'm gesing that filip does not live with you. i could be wrong, though. why are you up so late/early, anyways? it's around 4 am there, right?

oh i see :) Yep i'm the youngest in the family, 18 years of age :P We both still live at home, but i'm currently helping out with our niece that got placed here, so i'm not planning to move out just yet, but it will happen sometime in the near future! lol ^^
And the reason i was up that late was because i'm a sad person xD no j/k. I was downloading and editing program for my Death Note AMV which i'm planning to make soon :) and i wanted to see how it worked. SCHWWWIIIINNNGGG!!! xD

yes, it's pretty sad. I should move out again soon

Btw have you started your AMV yet? If not, DO IT! NOW

[The Ever Strange Look]

Hmm...brothers...that could be interesting - especially if both of you are going to be on the same review (thinking of the unedited audio here) :P

At any rate, yeah sure, Pont. you can join, I doubt I'd be availible for the first review anyway (lack of net connection due to moving to uni anyway).

Speaking of which I think perhaps it'd be prudent of me to set up a forum for this rather than block up AMVH.com with this topic, it'll make organising this less hectic as well. Watch this space.

Also, any ideas on what anime to review first?

[Filleffs]

Hmm...brothers...that could be interesting - especially if both of you are going to be on the same review (thinking of the unedited audio here) :P

At any rate, yeah sure, Pont. you can join, I doubt I'd be availible for the first review anyway (lack of net connection due to moving to uni anyway).

Speaking of which I think perhaps it'd be prudent of me to set up a forum for this rather than block up AMVH.com with this topic, it'll make organising this less hectic as well. Watch this space.

Also, any ideas on what anime to review first?

sounds good =P

And the first anime....good question. We should probably start with something like a movie or OVA? something that doesn't take too long to finish
But I dunno :P

[The Ever Strange Look]

Well if its a short anime/movie to be reviewed we've a fair selection

FLCL for one, Elfen Lied another. Appleseed (2004 version) is another idea.

Just setting up the forum btw.

[Pontaloy]

I'm gonna get started on it soon :P Be patient ;D

And on the anime suggestion. Maybe it could be an anime that's really popular atm, like death note? or maybe D.Gray-man?

[The Ever Strange Look]

Both good suggestions - as long as both Anime series are in completion. That being said...isn't Death Note 37 episodes long? At least I remember it being 37 episodes, as awesome as it was.

[Pontaloy]

At any rate, yeah sure, Pont. you can join, I doubt I'd be availible for the first review anyway (lack of net connection due to moving to uni anyway).

Cool man :D thx.

[Pontaloy]

Both good suggestions - as long as both Anime series are in completion. That being said...isn't Death Note 37 episodes long? At least I remember it being 37 episodes, as awesome as it was.

Yea, i think it was :) I believe the manga is alittle longer than the anime, but that won't matter or?

[The Ever Strange Look]

I don't think it matters in the long run, most series are between 24 and 26 episodes anyway. But I think what Filler is trying to get at is that for our first review it would be best to start off slow on a short anime to see how time commitments are. A movie is also acceptable btw.

[Pontaloy]

I don't think it matters in the long run, most series are between 24 and 26 episodes anyway. But I think what Filler is trying to get at is that for our first review it would be best to start off slow on a short anime to see how time commitments are. A movie is also acceptable btw.

Yea that's true. I see, that's a good idea. Then how about Hellsing? It's popular and not so long if i remember right. Or maybe a naruto or one piece movie?

[The Ever Strange Look]

All good suggestions (but which Hellsing? The series or the OVAs?)

The Board is almost up btw - it'll be functional but not pretty. Watch this space.

[Filleffs]

Not Naruto or One piece D:
I meant maybe an ova or movie that isn't related to any long series. Maybe like all the the Ghibli movies
And 5 centimeters per second etc etc =P
Just start with something easy to "warm up" ? xD

[The Ever Strange Look]

Right, I've put up the forum. It's got minimal functionality at the moment. Any who register will need validation - I'll also need to put you on the Admin section for now so that we can discuss reviews further there.

The Link is:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/HellMates_Reviews/index.php

Can you try to log in with your AMVH.com names please? It would make it easier to identify you first off, I can change the names later on request.

Thanks :D

[Filleffs]

Cool, I'll register as soon as I can ^^

[The Ever Strange Look]

OK, I've got you in Filler, can you see everything?

[Filleffs]

yep, working fine so far, I think ^^
Discussion and Off Topic are those I can see.

[The Ever Strange Look]

Can't you see the section headed: "Hellmate's Reviewer ONLY"?

[acutekat]

holy crap you stayed on topic for this long :O (omgwtfbbq)

[The Ever Strange Look]

A testement to enthusiaism and what it can do :)

[Issitheus]

Got computer back, i'm a reviewer.

[acutekat]

yes but for 8 or so pages wow just wow it usually turn into spam around now... or worse

[The Ever Strange Look]

By all means feel free, or not.

We're having suggestions posted about what anime to review first Issy if you want to have a ganders, we decided to go for a short series or movie for an easy start.

[acutekat]

hmm interesting well the melancholy of haruhi suzumia comes to mind being short and sweet and to the point

[Issitheus]

I suggested Azu, but short... I saw Paprika recently...

[The Ever Strange Look]

They're all coming up from the woodworks now :O

Well I can't come back and forth between AMVH and HR so any more suggestions can people please register at Hellmate's Reviews (or come as a guest, either is good:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/HellMates_Reviews/index.php?act=idx

and post in the suggestions section.

Thanks. :D

[acutekat]

more fringe forum rip offs

[The Ever Strange Look]

:-\ We're not making AMVs, you have read as much right? How could this rip off Zarx?

Besides, it's less confusing for others to have a dedicated forum rather than have one never-ending topic on AMVH which I'm sure would present a nuisance should it become larger.

[acutekat]

the fact that amv and hell are in so close a proxicimity
hmm and could you please exonerate on your previous and obcious pass at me


(what was the insult)

[Issitheus]

That makes no sense; do you even know what we're planning here?

[acutekat]

lets see here if i can make this simpler


TESL was insulting me in some way and i was wondering how he was insulting and thread he was referring to


and yes i know you are trying to reveiw animes a worthy proffession so lay off of me im trying to be pesimistic here

[Issitheus]

then please continue... in another topic.

[acutekat]

YES THOUGHT TRAIN DE-RAILED

[Issitheus]

actually, a student in my lit class last year came up with: "The train of thought has left the station."

[acutekat]

9 pages on topic no more

[Mawelli]

I suggested Azu, but short... I saw Paprika recently...


How about the new Ghibli movie Ponyo?

[Filleffs]

I suggested Azu, but short... I saw Paprika recently...


How about the new Ghibli movie Ponyo?

that's a good idea!

[The Ever Strange Look]

Would that be out freely yet? The new NGE movie took like 8 months for a *cough* subbed version to come out - otherwise, a good idea.

[Filleffs]

oops, didn't think about that. I have no idea yet, but I'll find out

[Pontaloy]

FLAME OF RECCA!!! >.< It&#39;s so awesome. Too bad it&#39;s so long - 42 eps. But if you haven&#39;t watched it, you should, but not from a "reviewer&#39;s point of view" (whatever that is xD). You know what i mean, watch it because it&#39;s awesome. Hmm, maybe i&#39;m in the wrong thread for making tips.

Anyways, i agree that a movie would be good and i found out yesterday that there was a movie based on the anime "X". Maybe that would be a good review? Maybe i&#39;m talking to much? xD if so, please tell me. I have a tendency to keep blabbering when it&#39;s inappropriate (misspelled?) :P

[Mawelli]

Would that be out freely yet? The new NGE movie took like 8 months for a *cough* subbed version to come out - otherwise, a good idea.


Heh I watched it as RAW version :P but i inderstood suprisingly lot from the movie =)

[The Ever Strange Look]

Well it was ultimately a cut and paste job

[Mawelli]

I looked at the Hellmates Reviews and registered there, seems that there is already 4 reviewers? =/

[Issitheus]

We can use many different reviewers

[Filleffs]

FLAME OF RECCA!!! >.< It&#39;s so awesome. Too bad it&#39;s so long - 42 eps. But if you haven&#39;t watched it, you should, but not from a "reviewer&#39;s point of view" (whatever that is xD). You know what i mean, watch it because it&#39;s awesome. Hmm, maybe i&#39;m in the wrong thread for making tips.

Anyways, i agree that a movie would be good and i found out yesterday that there was a movie based on the anime "X". Maybe that would be a good review? Maybe i&#39;m talking to much? xD if so, please tell me. I have a tendency to keep blabbering when it&#39;s inappropriate (misspelled?) :P

mhm :P

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Anyway, so far the best quality release of Ponyo is a screener (raw).
This is the quality of the movie http://ww3.beffo.se/phwuv849vy0o.jpg
It&#39;s fully watchable if you ask me ^^ (I&#39;m used to watching TS movies)

And if we&#39;re lucky, then some fansub group might sub it pretty soon.

[The Ever Strange Look]

I looked at the Hellmates Reviews and registered there, seems that there is already 4 reviewers? =/


Yes, we&#39;re now using more than 4 reviewers as stock, but 4 reviewers per episode, if that makes any sense.

[Mawelli]

aight, thats fine with me ^^

[Mawelli]

Just thought to bump this so that all involved don't forget :D

[The Ever Strange Look]

Indeed, the anime in question has been chosen to be reviewed. Soon children, soooon.