[Odessa]

I liked the idea from my other thread, so i thought to make it an official topic, see what happens :)

Ask the guru gently, and she will yield her answers to you...

[Ken-Chan]

if one exists what is the best pic up line

the best one i think is the simple "can i buy you a drink"

but is there one better

[Tazuto]

If youve never been on a date in your life and your 18 whats the best course of action? hypothetically

[Odessa]

Kenpachi:
pick up lines are a flawed invention: they sound like they will pcik up a girl, and yet, nine times out of ten, she will laugh at you for trying to use a pick up line. unless you are some super sexy celeb with James bond level charisma, you dont' stand a chance with a pick up line.

your best bet it to casually approach the woman in question, and introduce yourself. "Hi, i'm Vicky, what's your name?" if you want to be cutesy, add in a compliment. "what's your name, cutie/gorgeos/lovely" etc. If she's not repusled by you (remember, bathing is highly recomended!) she'll give you her name, and you two can take it from there. being forward and honest makes an impression, as too many guys DO use pick up lines and such, and that's a turn off.


my "best" line if you will thoguh, was with Gabi, a girl i was friends with. we had hung quite a bit, and it was clear there was soem tension between us of the sexual kind. i sat next to her and said " can i just say i like you and get this tension out of the air?" with a smirk, and she laughed as we both felt it, and it was good to jsut admit it rather than dodging the issue.


Tazuto:

If you recall, i didnt date until I was 22, so there's no rushing the art of love ;)

trying to get a date for a date's sake is the wrong way to go at; if all your'e lookign for is sex, it will show (granted, some girls also just want sex and won't care, but this is rare; more likely someone who is too easy is a gold digger hoping to take advantage of you). To get a date, you need to have something in common with the girl.

Start off by knowing what you like. Say, Anime. Then go where people who like anime go too in your area ( conventions, anime clubs, comic book stores, etc). In these locations, you will meet people you have something in common with. When you see someone you are interested, amke first contact with the above method of simply introducing yourself. don't be quick to jump the gun; start off slow, seeing if you two get along. If you can forge a friendship, your chances of eventially dating go through the roof.

If there is no such place you can go too...create it! If your shool has no anime club, start one up with free showings of anime movies you like, see who wanders in.

and while you are a bit young for it, you can always try dating online. There are pelnty of free sites out there that help people find thier match. I use craig's list a bit as it's incredibly easy to use, but there are plenty of others as well.

and sicne we are talking first dates, some of my earleist examles are as follows:

Helen... I was the A student im the class, and she asked me to be her tutor. We hung out, started going to various events together, and i threw into one of conversations "so i was wodnering if you'd like to go out with me?" she said no. what, you think the first time asked someone out i was going to get lucky? rejection happens. it hurts, but you move on. never forget that.

Jessica: We were both doing a class assignment going to this workshop of odd musicians. We ended up having to wait in line next to each other, and i strung up a conversation. We spent two hours in line together, and when we did get in, we sat i nthe back and talked over doing the assignment lol. i walked her home, and i was in cloud nine... when i got back, i broke with my usual rules and e-mail her right away, saying i was crazy for her. she seconded the emotion, and we started dating the next day. lesson here is: honesty. i blurted it all out way too soon, but she thought it cute as i was honest. a risky gambit to blurt it out opnely so soon...but being honest is the best advice period.

Rachel: my first relationship to go "all the way." We meet online. she had psoted an ad on craig's list, and i replied to it, we exchanged e-mails for a week, shared a few phone calls, and then met at an IHOP for brunch lol. our first two dates were horrible, as were putting on our best airs, not being natural with each other. As her ride was on it's way to pick her up, and we sat across from each other in awkward silence, as we were being too formal. i took the inititive and asked her "Why are being so shy? you seem so distant, i can't tell if you like me or not."

it was the ice breaker we needed, as she able to open up to me then. she said she had never kissed another girl, and was afraid of what she was doing. we talked then for real, and it saved the date, and our friendship. I kissed her before she left, and it took the fear out of our third date, and the many more to come. the lesson here is: you are not the only one nervous.


that's my show for today. do come again :0

[Luppi-tan]

Wow. That's really informative. Thanks. I'll probably fail miserably, but at least I can say I tried! *Grins*

[Ken-Chan]

just remember i'm watching

ALWAYS WATCHING ALL

[Luppi-tan]

And just what, pretell, are you watching?

[Ken-Chan]

EVERYTHING

[Odessa]

you can watch all you want... i only charge 1.99 per minute... :)

[Ken-Chan]

i think thats fair deal

[Odessa]

sweet! maybe i should get back into porn...

[Ken-Chan]

can i direct

[Luppi-tan]

No. You would have too much fun screwing the models and you wouldn't get anything done!

[Ken-Chan]

ummm then can i be the actor

[Luppi-tan]

Why not?

[Kuwabara]

can i be an actor too? :P

[Ken-Chan]

ok but this will get wierd soon

[Kuwabara]

hey....we can get vicky's friends to join in....

[Ken-Chan]

she said she has lots of weird friends they can all join

[Tazuto]

I didnt know odessa was into girls lol mark down another great quality

PS i have dated online and it only worked for about a couple months, all the great girls live far away...

[Ken-Chan]

the grass is always greener

[Tazuto]

half my yard is dead...

[Ken-Chan]

mine is good just had some rain

[Tazuto]

life sucks...

[Ken-Chan]

your a glass half empty kind of guy aren't you

[Tazuto]

if its not full to the top then it isnt full

[Ken-Chan]

i destroyed my glass so i dont know what to think anymore

[Odessa]

if its not full to the top then it isnt full


random aside, but being am opey depressing sack won't get your laid either.... you listening, abyss?


and you know, i didn't even realize i gave only women in my examples. i date both men and women, so how about some guy stories:


Ryn: He was an older man, age 45, i met online. we were friends through a mutual friend. we were chatting via on IM one night, and he started being flirty, asking what i was wearing and such. i saw no harm in telling him, as i was being flirty back. then, he surprsied me by telling me what he would do to me. in VERY vivid detail. i had no idea of what "cybering" was or anything then, and it's not something i make a habit of either (though i can admit i have done it now). at that time, it was incredibly erotic; he had me eating out of the palm of his hand. he was in Montana to my boston, but i was so enthralled i moved out there and moved in with him. it was a very short relationship and i would move back with my parents in a few months time. still, this is relationship example based purely on attraction. it doesn't last long, but you are going to enjoy it while it lasts. when we wore each other out, we broke up, as that was what was holding us together.

Jonathon: We had been set up by a friend; the dreaded "blind date." This guy moved FAST. We were going to a convention with severla of my friends. Jonathon adn I were alone in my room talking, when Rae excused herself to go to the bathrooom. He made his intentions QUITE clear when he suddenly leaned into me, forcing me agaisnt the wall, while sliding off my skirt... in one motion! i had barely had time to realize what he was doing before his head was between my thighs. To say i was stunned was an understatement! It was too fast for me, and i put the breaks on quite quickly. We have remained friends with benefits ( he is quite good with his tongue, sue me) but it was too much, too fast. Lesson here: don't be in such a rush that you SCARE THE HELL OUT OF YOUR DATE. yes, he 's good in bed, but most girls won't go for that; i'm just special lol. if you just want sex, you might get it, but nt without losing her as a girlfriend. and in worst case, if she's really not into it, taking such a risk could land you with rape charges. it's not worth it, cause if all you want is sex, you can meet people like that without worry.

oddly, i find i don't have as many wacky stories with men...there's sir jack ass who raped me and sir jerk who never showedup for our date despite planning it for weeks, or blind date number 2 who didn't say much on the date and never returned my calls.

i think it's cause with a female partner, theres an assumpton we are going to do some wierd ****. with a guy, most will be too timid, so afraid of saying the wrong thing they say nothing...and thats a huge mistake. leaving a bad impression is better than leaving NO impression.

but that's my two cents.

[Tazuto]

i destroyed my glass so i dont know what to think anymore
so basically you think "W/E" for everything

[Ken-Chan]

i destroyed my glass so i dont know what to think anymore
so basically you think "W/E" for everything

no not really i'm more care free




but that's my two cents.
[/quote]

how many cents do you have you have givin out a lot you must be rich

[Odessa]

i sel my body for rent and beg for food stamps to eat. yea, real rich lol.

[Ken-Chan]

yer see i told ya rich

[Tazuto]

i sel my body for rent and beg for food stamps to eat. yea, real rich lol.



really? =o

[Ken-Chan]

you dont read back on posts you missed do you

[Tazuto]

maybe

[Ken-Chan]

lol

[Tazuto]

lol my bros playign dead space demo and screaming rofl

[Kuwabara]

lol my bros playign dead space demo and screaming rofl


let me guess...he keeps dieing because of the lack of ammo...

[Ken-Chan]

ammunition is a bitch in most games there is always very limited and for someone who is trigger happy like me it's a problem thats when some melee face bashing comes in handy

[Odessa]

i sel my body for rent and beg for food stamps to eat. yea, real rich lol.



really? =o


um, sometimes? i've been sick pretty badly of late, so i'm mooching of my parents as i can't even do the above anymore. i used to work minimum wage as a super market cashier, and they apparently don't like it when you randomly pass out at work.

[Ken-Chan]

i sel my body for rent and beg for food stamps to eat. yea, real rich lol.



really? =o


um, sometimes? i've been sick pretty badly of late, so i'm mooching of my parents as i can't even do the above anymore. i used to work minimum wage as a super market cashier, and they apparently don't like it when you randomly pass out at work.




really..... those bastards:P

[Ionzorg]

See, the great thing about Vicky is that she both is a woman and has experience in dating women. :) Therefore, you get the experienced hunter's opinion and a decent idea of what the girl may be thinking, too. This is gold, I tell you, GOLD!

'Kay, um...do you think I should try to date more often? That's really my only query. I mean, women are nice and all, but I just don't find myself motivated to aggressively put myself on the market. I also don't really get to know many desirable women outside of my friend circle, and dating those inside the circle would just be awkward in general, which complicates matters.

Terrible question, and I know it's up to me in the long run, but still. Would you say it's worth the trouble?

[Odessa]

is dating worth the trouble... huh. never really thought of that one. congrats for throwing me off with a question!

Well, for me, i have the classic clingy syndrome; if i'm not in a relationship with someone, my self-esteem and feeligns of self worth plummet. "what, i'm not good enough for someone anymore...?" my therapist has tried to coax me out of thatthinking, but i am relationship junkie all the same. i could live without sex if i had too, but not being in a relationship? i'd go nuts. i'd likely overdoes of anti-depressants trying to combat my self loathing.

if you're not like me.... being single is not the worst thing in the world. if you are generally happy with your life, feeling fulfilled with thigns in general without a partner.... then i see no reason to shake things up by adding the complication of dating into it.


Though i will say this... most guys (to my knowledge) date as they are driven to get laid. If you look at women and don't feel that lust, you might want to ask yourself the questions of self exploration. sure, there is the "am i gay? question, but that's usually obvious; i say usually as i didn't realize i wasn't straight until my early twenties.

Still, if you're not gay, and if you arn't into women, you might be what is called "asexual." No, this doesnt' mean you produce without sex as science text books say; but there is a rising number of people who are born with little to NO sex drive at all. I know people like this;i even have one guy and i date (cough sex cough) to determine if he was really asexual. he was lol. i'm not saying this HAS to be it, but be aware of the possibility.

if you are attracted to women, but just don't get aroused much, you might have low testosterone. This is easily determined ( and fixed) by asking yoru doctor; one blood test later and they can see if you above/below normal. Testosterone is what makes you horny... as may come as no surprsie, i have FAR above the normal testosteroen level for a normal woman lol. I would recomend you look into this; you can make an appointment for a check up no problem, and then tell your doctor in private.


If it's none of THAT, and you have "shikamaru" syndrome of being just too damn lazy to date... well, all i can say is there will come a day when someone walks into your life that will make you want to date.


If you are worried about not being worldy enough as you haven't dated... then it can't hurt to go out, test the waters. Just don't feel pressured to do so. As mentioned, i didn't start dating till i was 22; and let me tell you, my mother had tried settign me up time and time again. "what about Maria's brother?" or "what about Peggy's son?" It got to be such a hassle i was even more convinced i would never date as it aggravated me too much. It took a women to change my mind, and my mom NEVER suggested that one lol.


Bottom line is: the only reason to date is if you WANT to date. A date requires 2 or more!) people, and even if you are not into it, the other person(s) might be. And would you really want to be madly in lvoe with someoen who wasn't taken you, or even dating, seriously? If you go for it, give it your all; and if it doesnt' work out, be honest and break up as soo nas you can, as letting those feelings linger with your date will only convince him/her that you two had a great date, when the truth is far from it.

I hope that makes some sense! :)

[Luppi-tan]

Well, I can't say that I'm exactly like you, but I have looked for dates in some of the most unlikely of people, hoping that opposites would attract. I've tried being subtle. Maybe girls just dont dig subtlety anymore, eh?

[Tazuto]

i sel my body for rent and beg for food stamps to eat. yea, real rich lol.



really? =o


um, sometimes? i've been sick pretty badly of late, so i'm mooching of my parents as i can't even do the above anymore. i used to work minimum wage as a super market cashier, and they apparently don't like it when you randomly pass out at work.




really..... those bastards:P
well they just dont understand, arnt all super markets bastards

[Tazuto]

and also ive been trying craigslist but alot of the replys are ads for another site =/

[Pink_Nipple]

o_O

[Odessa]

Well, I can't say that I'm exactly like you, but I have looked for dates in some of the most unlikely of people, hoping that opposites would attract. I've tried being subtle. Maybe girls just dont dig subtlety anymore, eh?


In days gone by, looking at a girl for mroe than three seconds was checking her out, and this was enough to start a rumor mill that could lead you to actually dating. Subtle. Those days ae gone.

In this day and age, you have to assume this: all people, male or female, are OBVLIOUS. If you dont' hit them with the clue-by-four, they will not get your point nine times out of ten. And then even if they do do pick up on it, the majority of women want to be pursued, so they will wait for you to make the first move even IF they like you and know you like them. My good friend Jess, for example, is a very attractive woman who loves the guys...she's a huge flirt! But even still, if he isn't willing to make the first move, if he's not willing to make the effort to chase her, then it's over before it's begun. Women rarely pursue; they will leave you hints sometimes, but being subtle, waiting for them to make a clear sign one way or the other, waiting for them to make a move... you might as well wait for pigs to fly out of your ass. If you like her, make a move, ANY MOVE. Say something, compliment her, make eye contact, etc. Making the first move is scary as hell, but women think if your'e willing to go through that hell of uncertainity for her, then you have potential as a boyfriend/husband/lover. It speaks volumes of confidence, that you know somethign she doesn't (does he have a big dick, a large bank accout, what makes him so confident?) and this gets a women's interest far more than being subtle.

And if you mes up, you mess up. At least at that point, you have given it your best shot, and can begin to move on rather than wonderign what you can do.




And tazuto: sometiems that happens, but again...make the first move yoruself, of people who are not advertising a site...

[Tazuto]

i cant possible know who is advertaising or not, i have sent messages to some people but no answear

[Ken-Chan]

so many words......

anyway vicky what position do u find the best
i know everyones different but i'm curious and bored

[Ionzorg]

I hope that makes some sense! :)

Ha, ha ha...definitely Shikamaru syndrome. ;D

But I might want to get tested for testosterone level anyhow, it might actually come up with interesting results. The one girl that I dated wherein sexual activity was involved (the one who asked me to ask her out [on two different occasions], that still makes me laugh), she said she'd never had so much trouble keeping a guy, well, physically aroused. I think she's still quite offended by it, actually, though knowing well both of the boyfriends she had most previously I can't say I was surprised. Meh, knowing our history, she'll probably be given another chance sometime soon. ::) Or at least a non sequitur make-out session.



I've tried being subtle. Maybe girls just dont dig subtlety anymore, eh?


Evidently not. :( It's too bad, I pretty much live for subtlety. I can't stand putting things as bluntly as some people do, it feels so tactless and blatant to me. I prefer the subtle and intelligent way of going about discourse, but I guess one of these days I'll have to accept that most other people don't share this way of thinking. I must be a complex person; or crazy, maybe.

Well, if I want results, something might have to change...

Edit: Something that isn't my sexual preference, for the record. :P

[Odessa]

my favorite in bed is the aforementinned cuddling; i think theres nothing more satisfying than falling asleep in someone's arms.

as for sex itself, it depends on male or feamle partner, and more importanly, who is in control.

if i'm in control with a guy, i use reverse cowgirl. (me on top, my back to him.)

if a guy is in control with me, i like doggy style.

i'm in control of a girl, i like giving oral.

if i a girl is in control of me, i like having my breasts played with more than anything else.


variation is the key to a healthy sex life :)

[Ken-Chan]

awesome

i'm not saying i want to
but is there is there a way to stop sexy thoughts/fantasies

[Odessa]

awesome

i'm not saying i want to
but is there is there a way to stop sexy thoughts/fantasies


hm...masterbate? that usually takes the wind out of my sails lol.

cold shower works too. and i'm told of thinking of unsexy people(politicians??) work too. for me, i think depressing thoughts, though it backfires more often than naught as i'm now depressed.


still, all short term solutions. long term, you could take drugs to lower your testosterone level; a bit extreme, but it would work. i can't confirm this, but i hear a long term relationship also does the trick.

[Tazuto]

lol i hope there arnt any kids on this site rofl

[Divine Dragoon]

my favorite in bed is the aforementinned cuddling; i think theres nothing more satisfying than falling asleep in someone's arms.



hehe there is just something about a good hug that just makes you relax and feel at ease hmmmmm HUGS. me being a Big V hasn't done anything but I think I'd be a warm passionate kinda guy (make her feel good) haha I have a ? the first kiss umm yah I don't know when and how he he he



can i direct


If any body has seen my facebook or my youtube I am a freelance camera man\editor for Damian's mom productions and it's sister biz Big sky video haha Id love to put this on the biz card "everyone has film of the baby being born but you never have video of the consption!" that would be kick ass funny huh?

[Luppi-tan]

Do you get all of this from first hand experience.

[Kuwabara]

lol i hope there arnt any kids on this site rofl


issitheus is only 15.....

[Issitheus]

lol i hope there arnt any kids on this site rofl


issitheus is only 15.....

same with Ellen...

[Kuwabara]

lol i hope there arnt any kids on this site rofl


issitheus is only 15.....

same with Ellen...


young'uns :P

[1337uvis]

oh come on... why does this thread still survive? go outside, lose 15 kilos and you wont need any advice

[Tazuto]

if i do that ill die of anerexia

[1337uvis]

ok ,assuming you dont have to lose weight (wow, a rare breed in anime-related forums) work out some more (at the gym most probably) youll work up your confidence

[Tazuto]

to lazy..lol

[Ken-Chan]

laziness is awesome

[BopBopBop]

laziness is when ur too lazy to be lazy.

now thats poetry... wait a sec... it is.... right?

[Ken-Chan]

no fail

[Ionzorg]

ok ,assuming you dont have to lose weight (wow, a rare breed in anime-related forums) work out some more (at the gym most probably) youll work up your confidence

Meh, as Vicky postulated, I'm pretty sure I lack testosterone. I mean, women are great, and I would certainly date a select few of them if they presented me plainly with the opportunity, but...

It's kind of like when I see something great that I could order from the internet, like this shirt http://www.indiemerchstore.com/unexpect/item.php?c=&id=4812. That's one of my favourite bands, and I'd love to own it (and support the artist), but then I'd have to open a PayPal account or something, then I have to order it, then I have to pay shipping, then I have to wait six to eight weeks, and by the time it gets here, who knows if it's even going to fit me well? Fortunately, I'm not desperate, and I count that as a bonus.



to lazy..lol


laziness is awesome


laziness is when ur too lazy to be lazy.

I concur. :P

[Divine Dragoon]

ok ,assuming you dont have to lose weight (wow, a rare breed in anime-related forums) work out some more (at the gym most probably) youll work up your confidence


We don't all want to be complete douche-bags.......

BURN!!!!!

[Ken-Chan]

ok ,assuming you dont have to lose weight (wow, a rare breed in anime-related forums) work out some more (at the gym most probably) youll work up your confidence


We don't all want to be complete douche-bags.......

BURN!!!!!


harsh

and douch bags suck so gross

[Ionzorg]

ok ,assuming you dont have to lose weight (wow, a rare breed in anime-related forums) work out some more (at the gym most probably) youll work up your confidence


We don't all want to be complete douche-bags.......

BURN!!!!!


harsh

and douch bags suck so gross

...I've never seen one up close...but I can imagine. :-\ :-\

[Ken-Chan]

ok ,assuming you dont have to lose weight (wow, a rare breed in anime-related forums) work out some more (at the gym most probably) youll work up your confidence


We don't all want to be complete douche-bags.......

BURN!!!!!


harsh

and douch bags suck so gross

...I've never seen one up close...but I can imagine. :-\ :-\

dont imagine it's no fun imagine boobs it's much more fun

[Ionzorg]

ok ,assuming you dont have to lose weight (wow, a rare breed in anime-related forums) work out some more (at the gym most probably) youll work up your confidence


We don't all want to be complete douche-bags.......

BURN!!!!!


harsh

and douch bags suck so gross

...I've never seen one up close...but I can imagine. :-\ :-\

dont imagine it's no fun imagine boobs it's much more fun

...I will. :D

[Ken-Chan]

ok ,assuming you dont have to lose weight (wow, a rare breed in anime-related forums) work out some more (at the gym most probably) youll work up your confidence


We don't all want to be complete douche-bags.......

BURN!!!!!


harsh

and douch bags suck so gross

...I've never seen one up close...but I can imagine. :-\ :-\

dont imagine it's no fun imagine boobs it's much more fun

...I will. :D

haha boobs remind me of the picture game
it kind of died

[Divine Dragoon]

ok ,assuming you dont have to lose weight (wow, a rare breed in anime-related forums) work out some more (at the gym most probably) youll work up your confidence


We don't all want to be complete douche-bags.......

BURN!!!!!


harsh

and douch bags suck so gross

...I've never seen one up close...but I can imagine. :-\ :-\

dont imagine it's no fun imagine boobs it's much more fun

...I will. :D


here to clear up my insult

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/456565/douche_fragrance_for_douche_bags/

[Kuwabara]

ok ,assuming you dont have to lose weight (wow, a rare breed in anime-related forums) work out some more (at the gym most probably) youll work up your confidence


We don't all want to be complete douche-bags.......

BURN!!!!!


harsh

and douch bags suck so gross

...I've never seen one up close...but I can imagine. :-\ :-\

dont imagine it's no fun imagine boobs it's much more fun

...I will. :D

haha boobs remind me of the picture game
it kind of died

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

*RUNS TO REVIVE THREAD*

[Ken-Chan]

ok ,assuming you dont have to lose weight (wow, a rare breed in anime-related forums) work out some more (at the gym most probably) youll work up your confidence


We don't all want to be complete douche-bags.......

BURN!!!!!


harsh

and douch bags suck so gross

...I've never seen one up close...but I can imagine. :-\ :-\

dont imagine it's no fun imagine boobs it's much more fun

...I will. :D

haha boobs remind me of the picture game
it kind of died

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

*RUNS TO REVIVE THREAD*

good job

[Odessa]

Do you get all of this from first hand experience.


me? psh, nah. i'm really a virgin who lies really, really well ;)


..

...

okay, not really lol. yea, this is my experiance as someone who has had a wierd ass life.



and liet: you don't need to be some super thin athletic person to get a date and/or laid. 3 years ago, i used to be over 400 pounds, and i still had dates. yes, i've since worked out to lose half that, but it's not "the only way" or anything. personality counts just as much, if not more, than a physical body. don't buy into that stereo type that you need to be muscular.



and FYI, as someone who owns a douche bag, you're not missing much. it's a bag, much like a toiletry bag. not all women do, but you use it to clean your vagina, especially after sex; hence it's dirty connotation. not sure why the phrase "douce bag" became an insult mind you, but whatever.


and i am home, so my Q&A session is back in business :)

[Useful]

Hmmm... I'm thinking that "douche bag" probably became a swear is the same reason "****" or "****" are swears: they're related to bodily functions usually not discussed.

Anyway... I'm not exactly a good person to ask about how to keep in good shape or get a date. I'm very cautious, but I usually needn't be: I'm very personable, if a bit strange and occasionally bookish sounding. Plus, I'm in very good shape, and not by any great effort really.

Actually, scratch the "not the best person to ask". I wasn't always like that. My social life got better when I got into anime. Yes, strange to hear, but that's how it was. I wasn't good at social interactions with the mainstream crowd: I think too much and don't hold to norms very well. But then I joined my local anime club... and it was all different. Literally: the anime scene is populated mostly by social outsiders with some exceptions, and I fit in well. Through that group, I gained a whole bunch of social skills and am now the Co-President of the club. At this point, I'm able to approach individuals from the "in" crowd easily, as I'm confidant of my social skills developed outside that group. What also helped was going to summer camps. They weren't long, only a week each, but I went to 4 different camps over one summer. The continually changing environments forces you to learn skills required for making good first impressions.

Then there is the physical fitness thing. Though it is of course not essential to a relationship, it helps in starting new ones. I know some people are unavoidably overweight: some builds appear overweight despite the fact that the individuals are normal weight for their body type; sometimes genetic tendency encourages fat storage and becoming overweight is literally unavoidable. I have full respect for these people. If you think you are capable of becoming slim, there's one thing that worked for me quite well (beyond my genetic disposition for a fit build). That is karate or another martial art. The routine of a martial art is very useful in all forms of self-discipline, and is a particularly attractive workout option to the anime crowd. There's friends to be made, a real incentive to the continuation of training (rank, among other things), and the knowledge that you're developing a useful skill (which also boosts self-confidence). These other benefits of karate still apply even if you don't get into really good shape, so it's a win-win.

Well, that's my schpeil. I kind of got lucky in finding these ways to spend my time, so I'm throwing them out there for other people to try. They worked for me, but everybody's different, so feel free to ignore me. I will admit that I have some natural advantages for the dating scene, both physical and mental. I will post a pic of myself if someone asks me to, but I won't if no one asks... I'd feel like I was being a douche to the body-conscious people out there.

[Ken-Chan]

Hmmm... I'm thinking that "douche bag" probably became a swear is the same reason "****" or "****" are swears: they're related to bodily functions usually not discussed.

no i just think it's the way they sound there are so many words that have lost there meaning and become insults
like gay, wanker,****,****,**** etc...

[Useful]

However, notice that all the mentioned words are related to a bodily function or sex, "gay" included because it describes sexual orientation.

[Issitheus]

Hey, same here! I actually MADE said anime club, though... it got me many new friends. At our last 2 meetings, I showed--you guessed it--AMV Hell 3. I urged them to join the forums, but... nothing yet... They'll come when we show Hell 4 at the end of the year, though!

NOT that "come", dood...

[Ken-Chan]

However, notice that all the mentioned words are related to a bodily function or sex, "gay" included because it describes sexual orientation.

yer true i wonder why they became insults who know all i know is that i use them and will always use em

[Kuwabara]

However, notice that all the mentioned words are related to a bodily function or sex, "gay" included because it describes sexual orientation.


"gay" used to mean "happy"....

[Useful]

Yes, but it then came to mean a homosexual (usually male). The point is, it is currently associated with sexual activity and can be a derogatory term. The other words you mentioned all work as well.

[Odessa]

Yes, but it then came to mean a homosexual (usually male). The point is, it is currently associated with sexual activity and can be a derogatory term. The other words you mentioned all work as well.


gay is only derogatory if you're braindead, or a bigot. I'm proud to be called Gay, and would challenege anyone who thinks it's an insult.

[Useful]

Yes, but it then came to mean a homosexual (usually male). The point is, it is currently associated with sexual activity and can be a derogatory term. The other words you mentioned all work as well.

gay is only derogatory if you're braindead, or a bigot. I'm proud to be called Gay, and would challenege anyone who thinks it's an insult.

I have many gay and lesbian friends, and I don't deny that when used by gays and well-intentioned heterosexuals, it is merely an identifier. However, that's because, much like ****** and other words directed in a derogatory fashion against subgroups, the word has been adopted by the subgroup in question and has been kind of "decriminalized" by that group. However, gay and ****** can still be derogatory if they are used as such, even if they are not usually meant that way.

[Ken-Chan]

Yes, but it then came to mean a homosexual (usually male). The point is, it is currently associated with sexual activity and can be a derogatory term. The other words you mentioned all work as well.


gay is only derogatory if you're braindead, or a bigot. I'm proud to be called Gay, and would challenege anyone who thinks it's an insult.




no it's different by calling a mate gay you cold mean it as an insult just random but you not insulting gays in general it can mean 2 different things i'm just saying it can be used as a n insult

[Odessa]

it's quite different... ****** was always a negative term, and it's being re-claimed now to an extent, but it's still taboo.

Gay is the identifier of homosexual men; using that as an insult is insulting gay men. it's like suddenly deciding "tall" is now a deragative word, and anyone who is tall is now in your so called "sub group."

There is NOTHING wrong with being gay, and anyone who uses Gay as an insult in my presence will get 40 lashes of my whip. I do NOT let intolerance go unchecked.

[Issitheus]

I never use it as a derogatory term, but I can see why people would.

[Kuwabara]

There is NOTHING wrong with being gay


for one...its a major pain in the ass :P

[Useful]

There is NOTHING wrong with being gay, and anyone who uses Gay as an insult in my presence will get 40 lashes of my whip. I do NOT let intolerance go unchecked.

Of course there's nothing wrong with being gay, just like there's nothing wrong with being black or tall. But you're contradicting yourself: you say at first that it's not a derogatory term and then you say that if someone uses it as one, they are out of bounds. The idea is that it depends on the context. It is a negative term only if used as such. Gays using the term have not actually changed the meaning of the word, just whether or not it is a negative identifier or a neutral one.

[Ken-Chan]

There is NOTHING wrong with being gay


for one...its a major pain in the ass :P


it's so lame it's funny

and there aint nothin wrong with being gay i applaud the people who come out and say it
i got to gay mates one only came out of the closet this year and i didn't think any different of him he is still a great bloke

[Issitheus]

"Gay" is merely a term that has been given a negative connotation. I could say that Odessa is gay and be correct (yes, I know that you're pansexual, it was just an example), and she would take no offense, correct?

[Kuwabara]

There is NOTHING wrong with being gay


for one...its a major pain in the ass :P


it's so lame it's funny

and there aint nothin wrong with being gay i applaud the people who come out and say it
i got to gay mates one only came out of the closet this year and i didn't think any different of him he is still a great bloke


i have no problems with gay people....as long as they dont hit on me....

[Ken-Chan]

There is NOTHING wrong with being gay


for one...its a major pain in the ass :P


it's so lame it's funny

and there aint nothin wrong with being gay i applaud the people who come out and say it
i got to gay mates one only came out of the closet this year and i didn't think any different of him he is still a great bloke


i have no problems with gay people....as long as they dont hit on me....


i ahve been hit on at a party but i'm not sure if it was real or jsut some guy being a wanker

[Odessa]

i think i'm wasting my breath on this, so let's just drop it before i lose my cool. ok?

[Ken-Chan]

OKY DOKY

does plain pure white hair look any good on a guy

[Useful]

i think i'm wasting my breath on this, so let's just drop it before i lose my cool. ok?


With pleasure. It reminds me of a pretty funny story that I'll put on another thread...



does plain pure white hair look any good on a guy

Well... I'm about as close as you can get to that in real life, so judge for yourself :P.

[Issitheus]

I was actually thinking of trying a Sephiroth-esque look... growing my hair down to my waist and stripping it white...

[Useful]

But you'd still be skinny as hell.

Anyway... talking about white hair: this was outside, and is ALMOST as white as my hair gets. It does get lighter than that though.

Link due to size

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/ItsAGanmen/IMG_2706.jpg?t=1230004013

[Kuwabara]

But you'd still be skinny as hell.

Anyway... talking about white hair: this was outside, and is ALMOST as white as my hair gets. It does get lighter than that though.

Link due to size

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/ItsAGanmen/IMG_2706.jpg?t=1230004013


whats the mask for?

[Issitheus]

But you'd still be skinny as hell.

Anyway... talking about white hair: this was outside, and is ALMOST as white as my hair gets. It does get lighter than that though.

Link due to size

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/ItsAGanmen/IMG_2706.jpg?t=1230004013


whats the mask for?

What mask?

[Ken-Chan]

But you'd still be skinny as hell.

Anyway... talking about white hair: this was outside, and is ALMOST as white as my hair gets. It does get lighter than that though.

Link due to size

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/ItsAGanmen/IMG_2706.jpg?t=1230004013


the mask is for phantom of the opera right

and when i let my hair grow it looks like yours as well but my hair is dark so i might bleach it white then die it bright green

[Issitheus]

My girlfriend won't let me dye my hair... For AWA next year I want to cosplay as Chiyo (Blitz! avatar cosplaying thing) but she doesn't want me to dye my hair for it... maybe I'll just go against her and when I grow my hair down to my waist I'll dye it blue...

[Kuwabara]

My girlfriend won't let me dye my hair... For AWA next year I want to cosplay as Chiyo (Blitz! avatar cosplaying thing) but she doesn't want me to dye my hair for it... maybe I'll just go against her and when I grow my hair down to my waist I'll dye it blue...


ehhh....im not sure thats a good idea.....

[Issitheus]

Which part? The going against my girlfriend part or the Konata part?

[Ken-Chan]

you couldget a wig

[Issitheus]

I'm fukkin doing it. I'm growing my hair out.

[Kuwabara]

Which part? The going against my girlfriend part or the Konata part?


going agianst your g/f.... :P

[Issitheus]

Nah, she'd forgive me...










































probably...

[Kuwabara]

Nah, she'd forgive me...










































probably...


*shrugs* ::) :P

[Ken-Chan]

Which part? The going against my girlfriend part or the Konata part?


going agianst your g/f.... :P


ooooow rebel

[Kuwabara]

Which part? The going against my girlfriend part or the Konata part?


going agianst your g/f.... :P


ooooow rebel


eh.....your funeral.... ::)

[Ken-Chan]

Which part? The going against my girlfriend part or the Konata part?


going agianst your g/f.... :P


ooooow rebel


eh.....your funeral.... ::)


cant wait to see how it turns out

[Kuwabara]

Which part? The going against my girlfriend part or the Konata part?


going agianst your g/f.... :P


ooooow rebel


eh.....your funeral.... ::)


cant wait to see how it turns out


me too ::)

[Divine Dragoon]

i got to gay mates




some guy being a wanker


hahahaha Im sorry but to the US thats just funny as hell HAHAHAHHAhaha

[Ken-Chan]

i got to gay mates




some guy being a wanker


hahahaha Im sorry but to the US thats just funny as hell HAHAHAHHAhaha



why is it only funny to americans why cant i laugh

[Kuwabara]

i got to gay mates




some guy being a wanker


hahahaha Im sorry but to the US thats just funny as hell HAHAHAHHAhaha



why is it only funny to americans why cant i laugh


Good Question!....not remotely the point! :P ::)

[Odessa]

issi: as long as you explain to her this is something important to you, i think she will be ok with you changing your hair. the "trick" here is if she fidns your hair one of your best/sexy features; if that is something that attracts her to you ,changing it could hurt things. however, if changing your hair edns a relationship, then i'd say she wasn't worth it i the first place.

still, the odds ar highly (95% say) in your favor of er being ok with it so long as you explain to her this is something you have to do, and keep her a part of it. if you go agaisnt her wishes without telling her anything, it could be read as a violation of trust, and then you are on your own.

[Issitheus]

Yeah, I know she loves me enough to let me by on that...









ON A SOMEWHAT RELATED NOTE...

Just how bad is it that I may or may not be on the best of terms with her dad? i.e. He doesn't seem to like me that much...

[Odessa]

well, if you were older, i'd say it coudl be a problem. but considering your age... her dad not liking you is likely a GOOD thing ;)

[Issitheus]

Why do you say that, of great goddess of sex and sex-related topics?

[Tazuto]

Why do you say that, of great goddess of sex and sex-related topics?
if you were dating my daughter(which i dont have one) i wouldnt like you either =)

[Ken-Chan]

you can date my future daughter anytime

[acutekat]

i did probably be reaching for the 12 gauge befor you got in the driveway

[Useful]

Why do you say that, of great goddess of sex and sex-related topics?

Well... it could either be that if her dad liked you, it might be that you're similar to him. Which could be a little awkward, but only if you brought it up.

Other (more likely) option is that it's typical for the dad not to like the kid who's dating her daughter. Protection thing. There's related reasons why her dad would not like you: she's dating someone IN REBELLION to the values of her dad, you're just weird (which isn't an issue in MY book, but whatever).

[Tazuto]

Odessa! craigslist sucks, for some reason 4 times as many dudes have contacted me then girls! ive only found 1-2 girls on there

[Useful]

Odessa! craigslist sucks, for some reason 4 times as many dudes have contacted me then girls! ive only found 1-2 girls on there

Which goes to prove that guys are pretty terrible at getting dates. Even gay ones.

[Ionzorg]

Lol, I'd be fine with it actually. But if you ever lay a hand on her boy, you won't be goin' home with a face, you undastand me?



I will post a pic of myself if someone asks me to, but I won't if no one asks... I'd feel like I was being a douche to the body-conscious people out there.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1376/toplessphotosv2mf8.jpg

Top right. :P Your spiels, and Mistress Vicky's of course, are superb. This is a great thread; what a cut-up! A real ham!



I think she's still quite offended by it, actually, though knowing well both of the boyfriends she had most previously I can't say I was surprised. Meh, knowing our history, she'll probably be given another chance sometime soon. ::) Or at least a non sequitur make-out session.

So the latter happened, but I'm still waiting on the former. If we didn't have to catch the bus, and I wasn't so worried about looking like the aforementioned douche bag, they probably would have happened in succession. There will be next times...



well, if you were older, i'd say it coudl be a problem. but considering your age... her dad not liking you is likely a GOOD thing ;)

Concurrence, Useful's rant withstanding. Speaking of which, her dad hates me, but there's a reason behind it...a story I think I'd rather not relate...you can't make me... :-\



Odessa! craigslist sucks, for some reason 4 times as many dudes have contacted me then girls! ive only found 1-2 girls on there

:D

[Tazuto]

its not funny! *kick*

[Useful]

I will post a pic of myself if someone asks me to, but I won't if no one asks... I'd feel like I was being a douche to the body-conscious people out there.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1376/toplessphotosv2mf8.jpg

Top right. :P Your spiels, and Mistress Vicky's of course, are superb. This is a great thread; what a cut-up! A real ham!

I meant on THIS thread... assuming that there might be people who just want to converse on here and wouldn't go into the "what does everyone look like?" threads unless they were already prepared.

[Ionzorg]

*pain, blood, ants, me dying slowly*

Damn, I should reset from an earlier save point, this is brutal.



I meant on THIS thread... assuming that there might be people who just want to converse on here and wouldn't go into the "what does everyone look like?" threads unless they were already prepared.

Yeah, that's why I linked it. For those who wouldn't want to...

[Useful]

I meant on THIS thread... assuming that there might be people who just want to converse on here and wouldn't go into the "what does everyone look like?" threads unless they were already prepared.

Yeah, that's why I linked it. For those who wouldn't want to...

You're evil ;D. Not that I really care >:D. At least you didn't embed it.

(Don't you dare. Or I'll report it :P.)

Zorg, did you read the comment I made on Tazuto's complaint?

[Kuwabara]

You're evil ;D. Not that I really care >:D. At least you didn't embed it.

(Don't you dare. Or I'll report it :P.)



why? :P ::)

[Ken-Chan]

You're evil ;D. Not that I really care >:D. At least you didn't embed it.

(Don't you dare. Or I'll report it :P.)



why? :P ::)


wats with the threats

[Ionzorg]

Zorg, did you read the comment I made on Tazuto's complaint?

The gay dates comment? Is that an inference of any kind? :P



wats with the threats

Sounds like the initial proceedings of a bar fight, doesn't it?

[Ken-Chan]

wats with the threats

Sounds like the initial proceedings of a bar fight, doesn't it?
[/quote]

YAY do i get to hit someone

[Useful]

YAY do i get to hit someone

I don't think so...





Zorg, did you read the comment I made on Tazuto's complaint?

The gay dates comment? Is that an inference of any kind? :P

Nah, just saying that guys are pretty bad at dating, even if they're gay. Thought might more people might catch it.

[Kuwabara]

youd didnt answer my question :P ::)






You're evil ;D. Not that I really care >:D. At least you didn't embed it.

(Don't you dare. Or I'll report it :P.)



why? :P ::)

[Useful]

True. I was saying that I didn't want to post pics of myself in this thread. He pointed out that I had no qualms about it elsewhere on the forums and linked a pic including me.

I warned him not to embed any such pic on this thread, because that would be going against my stated intent. And I would have no control over it.

He wouldn't do it though, he just wanted to to push it by linking his... disturbing compilation.

[Kuwabara]

True. I was saying that I didn't want to post pics of myself in this thread. He pointed out that I had no qualms about it elsewhere on the forums and linked a pic including me.

I warned him not to embed any such pic on this thread, because that would be going against my stated intent. And I would have no control over it.

He wouldn't do it though, he just wanted to to push it by linking his... disturbing compilation.


HEY!!!...im 1/4 of that "disturbing compilation." :P ::) ;D

[Ionzorg]

This thread started to look vaguely like "Person under me" up there, so I'm satisfied with thinking that I was not sabotaged this time. :P Whoo!



YAY do i get to hit someone

Uh, if you throw the first one and break the duel-like suspense, let's all throw drunken punches at each other for a while. :)



Nah, just saying that guys are pretty bad at dating, even if they're gay. Thought might more people might catch it.

I kind of figured everyone would. :P True, even though they are often given the impression of being needlessly flamboyant. You'd think, other than the sexual preference, they'd be just like every other guy, huh?

I had to laugh at the use of the phrase "disturbing compilation". :D At least we aren't completely eye-averting, again, not really typical of your average anime-themed forum that I'm aware.

[Odessa]

wow, peopel are busy today...and here i'd thoguh it woudl be slow.




well, as mentioned, if her dad liked you, you'd have to be the most goody two shoes person around. daddy is going to protect his little girl, and that's that. BIG HINT: never, never, try to get between a girl and her father. it's dating suicide to insult her father, or to bad mouth him (exception being, she does so first). just let things play out, and if things work out for you two datign wise, daddy will come around in time.

as for the pictures.. i stand by my statement of kuwabara in the upper left being the hottest pictured person on here. issis too young so i'm not touching that. upper right (wasnt' that useful and not zorg?) is still creepy as hell to me. bottom right guy is "eh." nothing really stands out to me, but no flaws either; if he could hold a conversation with me, i'd go home with him, but i wouldn't make it easy.

[Tazuto]

what about me???

[Ionzorg]

bottom right guy is "eh." nothing really stands out to me, but no flaws either; if he could hold a conversation with me, i'd go home with him, but i wouldn't make it easy.

In that case, considering the circumstances (me disliking things that are hard), we probably wouldn't go too far. :P Hm, on second thought, I think I'd put a little effort into it. It's an interesting concept...

Yes, it's understandable, when and if I become a father, I would be very apprehensive about the gentleman callers. >:(

[Luppi-tan]

Yes. In my experience, "gentlemen" aren't usually very gentlemanlike. They're usually more CORN-like.

[Issitheus]

Yes. In my experience, "gentlemen" aren't usually very gentlemanlike. They're usually more CORN-like.

and BEHOLD-like, too?

[Odessa]

bottom right guy is "eh." nothing really stands out to me, but no flaws either; if he could hold a conversation with me, i'd go home with him, but i wouldn't make it easy.

In that case, considering the circumstances (me disliking things that are hard), we probably wouldn't go too far. :P Hm, on second thought, I think I'd put a little effort into it. It's an interesting concept...

Yes, it's understandable, when and if I become a father, I would be very apprehensive about the gentleman callers. >:(



ah, so you mr. bottom right? that increases your odds already; being able to make me laugh as you have done earns mucho points. i rate your picture as "eh" as you are showing so little emotion in this picture. Kuwabara's pic, he's oozing with charm, as if he were daring me to take a taste. Your picture is handsome, but there's no personailty to it, no flair. it's a very easy fix; strike a pose! put on a silly hat, smile, do whatever, but make the picture yours, so that it conveys something more about yourself than a mere "here i am."

that's my thoughts, at least.

[Kuwabara]

bottom right guy is "eh." nothing really stands out to me, but no flaws either; if he could hold a conversation with me, i'd go home with him, but i wouldn't make it easy.

In that case, considering the circumstances (me disliking things that are hard), we probably wouldn't go too far. :P Hm, on second thought, I think I'd put a little effort into it. It's an interesting concept...

Yes, it's understandable, when and if I become a father, I would be very apprehensive about the gentleman callers. >:(



ah, so you mr. bottom right? that increases your odds already; being able to make me laugh as you have done earns mucho points. i rate your picture as "eh" as you are showing so little emotion in this picture. Kuwabara's pic, he's oozing with charm, as if he were daring me to take a taste. Your picture is handsome, but there's no personailty to it, no flair. it's a very easy fix; strike a pose! put on a silly hat, smile, do whatever, but make the picture yours, so that it conveys something more about yourself than a mere "here i am."

that's my thoughts, at least.


;D ::) :P

[Ken-Chan]

nobody ever thinks of poor old Kenny

[Divine Dragoon]

Yes. In my experience, "gentlemen" aren't usually very gentlemanlike. They're usually more CORN-like.


I resent that!!! >:( The think I hate the most is people that use the gentlemen code to get an easy lay are just scum! they give real ones like me a bad name! grrrrrrrrr.......

[Odessa]

the thing to remember is that there are "real gentleman" and then there are charmers who act like a gentleman until they get into your pants. real gentlemen are the nice guys who dont flirt much; the irony is most gentlemen you meet are the charmers as they are the ones who will approach a girl in a bar.

real gentlemen are the underdogs, the rare finds. the problem with a gentleman like this is in running the danger of being TOO nice; if you feel too safe, alot of women will pass for a more daring, adventurous guy, aka "the bad boy." it puts the nice guys in a bind; if they do nothing but be nice, they get passed up, but if they act up, they are seen as a charmer, a fake gentleman. it's a no-win situation for nice guys usally...hence the saying "nice guys finish last."

[Mawelli]

hence the saying "nice guys finish last."


****....I'm screwd...

[Divine Dragoon]

the thing to remember is that there are "real gentleman" and then there are charmers who act like a gentleman until they get into your pants. real gentlemen are the nice guys who dont flirt much; the irony is most gentlemen you meet are the charmers as they are the ones who will approach a girl in a bar.

real gentlemen are the underdogs, the rare finds. the problem with a gentleman like this is in running the danger of being TOO nice; if you feel too safe, alot of women will pass for a more daring, adventurous guy, aka "the bad boy." it puts the nice guys in a bind; if they do nothing but be nice, they get passed up, but if they act up, they are seen as a charmer, a fake gentleman. it's a no-win situation for nice guys usally...hence the saying "nice guys finish last."



at least there are people out there That know about real gentleman and we are not a mith to be honest I am the real one that would rather have a god time going to a movie or have dinner with her than get her lickerd up and then use her like a peace of meat that's just In my appoion a horrorable thing to do to anyone

[Mawelli]

at least there are people out there That know about real gentleman and we are not a mith to be honest I am the real one that would rather have a god time going to a movie or have dinner with her than get her lickerd up and then use her like a peace of meat that's just In my appoion a horrorable thing to do to anyone


Yeah same here. Though as Vicky said
alot of women will pass for a more daring, adventurous guy, aka "the bad boy." it puts the nice guys in a bind;
so that makes it harder for me. I guess I'll have to wait until one of those girls come along who know that the real nice guys arent a myth :D Though I have to say I'm not really in a hurry. I really have a Shikamaru syndrome going on and everything so ;D

[Ken-Chan]

i have multiple personality's so i can switch to whichever one the situation calls for

it comes in very handy

[Mawelli]

What happens when you switch the wrong personality on?

[Odessa]

^ nothing good, i assure you lol.



as mentioend for you nice guys, you are in the hot seat. the best advice for you to find a date is to be a friend first; show your true colors tp peoplewith similair interests without any pretext of trying to get laid. when you find someone you actually get along with and would like to go out with, you need to go agaisnt your insticts and fears and make the first move to ask her out. for you, being shy, nervous, unsure of yourself...it can work to your advantage as it shows you are NOT the guy just trying to get into her pants. it's not a guarentee, and you still might be turned down; it happens. i'e been shot down many a time and have been dumped more tiems than i care to count. this is part of the game, and as you get more experiance, you learn to roll with the punches. then you won't need someone like me to give you advice either lol.

the bottom line is to be yourself. if you are a nice guy, be a nice guy and let that side of yourself shine. if she's not brain dead or a gold digger, she will notice. she may not want a nice guy; not all women do. if it doesn't work out, you have your mourning period, but you move on. it might be a while ( after i was rejected for the first time, i was depressed for about two years) but you do move on.

[Mawelli]

Yeah I don't try too hard though. As I said I'm a Shikamaru type of guy. I'll just roll and when I see someone nice, I'll shine! :D

I've had my fare share of being turned down...so I don't really mourn too bad, not too long atleast.

[Odessa]

that is a far healthier attitude. mourning for two years as i did? BAD move. i only got over her when i decided to move to the other side of the country to get away from everythign that reminded me of her. i wear my heart on my sleeve; i fall in love easily, and have it broken easily as well. the yins and the yangs...

[Mawelli]

*pat pat*

Yeah I just don't like to dwell on things too long. Especially the bad ones. I usually try to deal with it straight away so I don't have to bring it up again or feel bad about it when brought into mind again.

I guess I'll have to set camp and see who will fall into my trap ^^

[Odessa]

trap? what tra---

[Mawelli]

**** sorry. I set it too close by. Let me open that for you...there.

Now I'll have to take it to some other are. Somewhere far away from here...
Maybe not a trap, something more of a...something to raise interest in the target. :D

[Odessa]

urg...what happened? and wo was that handsome man who saved me... :-*

[Mawelli]

Ah it seems that you were having a wonderful walk when you lost your balance, tripped and lost consciousness...You should be more careful when taking walks...

[Tazuto]

hmm i wonder, who here has ever done phone sex??

[Kuwabara]

$5 says vicky has ::)

[Ken-Chan]

*pat pat*

Yeah I just don't like to dwell on things too long. Especially the bad ones. I usually try to deal with it straight away so I don't have to bring it up again or feel bad about it when brought into mind again.


tats like me i dont dwell on things i dont see the point i just move on very quickly

[Divine Dragoon]

the best advice for you to find a date is to be a friend first


that really worked out for me turns out she's getting married to a guy she has known for 2 months and remind you he was "too tired to go pick her up at 4AM and I was the only one she could rely on to get her safely home I only found out 4 days ago her feonci had the balls to call me on her phone to rub in my face and then had the balls to say we should hang out some time and **** I was a perfect gentleman in not exploding on him he is the man she wants to be with so I'll respect her wishes (even tho he compared her to a floozy in Florida witch really ERKED me!) but I gave her my word a year ago "I'll stand by anything you do %100 no matter what" my word is my promise and i never make a woman a promise I can't keep! sigh...... doesn't make me feel any better but if i drop all that I'll lose who i am.... even tho I really dont know exactly who i am entirely (6 years I don't recall) ... :'(

[Odessa]

mawelli: thank you for saving me!! :)


tazuto and kuwabara: of course i have. was there any doubt?

Divine dragon: i know how you feel. i recall incredibly little of my life before the age of 14. most of what i do remember ( see the embaressign stories thread) is what i recall from being told the story so many times. it's the story i recall, not it actually happening to me. as i get older, my memory gets progressively worse; my teen years are becoming quite blurry, and in time i won't be able to remember them at all. my mind can only go back so far due to the brain damage, so the older i get, the more i forget. you can spend your tiem worrying about it, or let it go. i live for the now; i am who i am now, and if/when i change, i roll with he punches. i've gone from training to be a nun, to a prostitute, to going to school to work in child services... i may not be who i was anymore, but as long as i like who i am now, what does it matter who i was? the past is gone, and remembering it won't change who you are today. that's my two cents :0

[Divine Dragoon]

haha I'v delt with my past just fine the only thing that bothers me is some strange skills/instincts/feelings-hunches that I get and don't know why like the Oh my god moment that I put in about the "legendary shot" I did that was compassionate for the Coriolis effect witch is what your trained to do as a army sniper for shooting a target over a mile away how I knew hot to do that i don't know and how to drive in any adverse weather in almost any car/ATV/or bike really I had no training......and thanks for avoiding my pain Odessa :D

[Kuwabara]

the best advice for you to find a date is to be a friend first


that really worked out for me turns out she's getting married to a guy she has known for 2 months and remind you he was "too tired to go pick her up at 4AM and I was the only one she could rely on to get her safely home I only found out 4 days ago her feonci had the balls to call me on her phone to rub in my face and then had the balls to say we should hang out some time and **** I was a perfect gentleman in not exploding on him he is the man she wants to be with so I'll respect her wishes (even tho he compared her to a floozy in Florida witch really ERKED me!) but I gave her my word a year ago "I'll stand by anything you do %100 no matter what" my word is my promise and i never make a woman a promise I can't keep! sigh...... doesn't make me feel any better but if i drop all that I'll lose who i am.... even tho I really dont know exactly who i am entirely (6 years I don't recall) ... :'(


wait.....the girl i emailed is engaged?!?....

[Divine Dragoon]

the best advice for you to find a date is to be a friend first


that really worked out for me turns out she's getting married to a guy she has known for 2 months and remind you he was "too tired to go pick her up at 4AM and I was the only one she could rely on to get her safely home I only found out 4 days ago her feonci had the balls to call me on her phone to rub in my face and then had the balls to say we should hang out some time and **** I was a perfect gentleman in not exploding on him he is the man she wants to be with so I'll respect her wishes (even tho he compared her to a floozy in Florida witch really ERKED me!) but I gave her my word a year ago "I'll stand by anything you do %100 no matter what" my word is my promise and i never make a woman a promise I can't keep! sigh...... doesn't make me feel any better but if i drop all that I'll lose who i am.... even tho I really dont know exactly who i am entirely (6 years I don't recall) ... :'(


wait.....the girl i emailed is engaged?!?....


she didn't even tell me I know it sucks the first person I could willingly give my life to protect and not even hesitate at the thought had to do that to me :'( ..... It's alright It's the first and probably won't be the first time it will happen to me haha one thing for sure if he hurt's her he'll regret it! >:(

[TheEndOfAllThingsGreen]

If youve never been on a date in your life and your almost 20 whats the best course of action? Should I give up?

I won't care if the answer to that last bit is yes by the way, but just throwing it out there.

[Mawelli]

If youve never been on a date in your life and your almost 20 whats the best course of action? Should I give up?

I won't care if the answer to that last bit is yes by the way, but just throwing it out there.

...no. Why would you give up. I have a friend and he was 23 before he ever dated so no point in giving up or with giving up do you mean giving up "actively trying to get a date"?

[TheEndOfAllThingsGreen]

Well heres the thing: I can talk to a girl in regular conversation; work related. As well as boring ass questions like: what classes do you have, how are you doing in them, ect, typical crap.

I can't ask a question past that, ever. I feel it would get too wierd. Dosen't apply to just girls either, I make friends with great difficulty because I usually do the small talk crap, and don't do any deeper then that.

[Mawelli]

Well, I guess it then comes down to just trying to go a little deeper on some occasion, or then meeting a person who understands that you feel awkward about it and that way you form a relationship ^^

[Useful]

To Green: DON'T give up. I know what you're talking about, but just listen to Mawelli, and here's a little thing to help you: pay attention to the people around you you'd like to talk to. If you notice something about them that suggests a connection that could be developed (interests, habits, even dislikes are all valid) into a deeper conversation, do it! Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I don't tend to have a problem with this most of the time, I go off on anything I notice about what someone else says or does, kind of like my brain is hardwired to make personal connections. My real problem is really the opposite of yours: I have an overzealous auto-conversation bot :D. For example, I never understand why politics is an off-limits conversation topic. So I'll talk about it to whoever I feel like. Now I'm not saying you should get yourself in that position, but think about it like that: if you turn them off, so be it, some people aren't meant to be friends. I found that practicing by going out on a limb with people you'll never meet again is a good way to practice. I do this often: start a conversation with someone at a bus stop, on an airplane, or in a shop. If you screw it up, no one's the worse for wear and you learned something. If you strike it off, that's another friend! Once you've gained confidence, try it on people you see often (co-workers and such) and you'll be doing fine.

And if you knew all that ****, ignore me, I can be didactic and prolix at times :P.

Now I know no one's problems are totally unique (though each person is, of course), but to date I haven't found anyone with the same combination of problems as me. Well, they're not all problems, some of them are just traits. WHATever.
- I dislike small talk, I'd much rather talk about something meaningful (as explicated in my paragraph to Green)
- I used to be arrogant and still require conscious effort to repress that streak in me. Therefore, I am a self-deprecating and selfless person, willing to sacrifice my own safety for strangers and family alike.
- Though I am personable and make a good first impression, I have trouble keeping my attention on relationships.
- I have a strange time trying to balance my natural introspective yet extroverted tendencies (I'm physically open, but tend to philosophize) with a modicum of restraint in normal conversation.
- Perhaps most vexing, I am so heavily introspective that I may have eliminated my ability to have true emotion about people. As a result, I'm an excellent actor, but I can't figure out which of my emotions is real. So just to be safe, I've adopted my aforementioned overly affectionate personality.

This all combines into the feeling that I don't know what love is. Which kind of sucks :-\

[Mawelli]

You forgot one of those Useful. The one which Vicky also stated:

- I'm Shikamaru. It's way too bothersome to make a move or try anything at the moment

And yeah dislikes can be a really good start for a relationship. I met one my best friends by actually having a bit of a fight out of nowhere with him. After some pushing around and staring we somehow just relaxed and started hanging out :D it was pretty cool though since now we are really good friends.

Then my current relationship which I'm trying to get to work with a chick was with our common dislike of a movie we saw at the same time and I overheard her saying how terrible it was and I said to her comment from behind her: "Yeah, thats like paying 10 euros for a cup of ****." (it sounds better in finnish so :D)

Dislikes definately work. I'd say quite often they can be a much better trigger if controlled well ^^

[Issitheus]

I'd say quite often they can be a much better trigger if controlled well ^^

That's what she said?

[Divine Dragoon]

Well heres the thing: I can talk to a girl in regular conversation; work related. As well as boring ass questions like: what classes do you have, how are you doing in them, ect, typical crap.

I can't ask a question past that, ever. I feel it would get too wierd. Dosen't apply to just girls either, I make friends with great difficulty because I usually do the small talk crap, and don't do any deeper then that.


same here man! haha I'm 21 and it seems like I just don't have the "balls" to ask a girl on a date haha life sucks for the nice guy i must say

[Useful]

ah, so you mr. bottom right? that increases your odds already; being able to make me laugh as you have done earns mucho points. i rate your picture as "eh" as you are showing so little emotion in this picture. Kuwabara's pic, he's oozing with charm, as if he were daring me to take a taste. Your picture is handsome, but there's no personailty to it, no flair. it's a very easy fix; strike a pose! put on a silly hat, smile, do whatever, but make the picture yours, so that it conveys something more about yourself than a mere "here i am."

that's my thoughts, at least.

So... am I showing TOO MUCH of myself :D? If so... it's not exactly discouraging, but I guess it's something to think about. Maybe I should put shades on myself to deaden the glow 8). Jk... I don't really know what I'm thinking about.

[Odessa]

(hugs) useful, dont' overthink it. it's just my two cents, you know? all i meant was that the picture looks like it was forced on you, as you look bored. it makes you look so lifeless in picture form, and i know thats not the case. hence it's a quick fix, as mentioned; if you experimnet with different poses, add some charm to the picture, you'll be knocking em dead on the dating sites as you are *well* built.


green: i second/third the "don't give up" idea. i didn't have my first date until i was 23. i was on the road to being a nun, and my first date found me. it was random, the girl waiting next to me in line to a concert. we chatted the entire night, i walked her home and asked her out that night ( though i e-mailed her a letter asking her out, as i was still quite shy then). it lasted all of two weeks, but it was my first real relationship and nothing can ever take that away. it gets easier as you learn to let go of the fear.

and if you want to expediate the process, try online dating. it's worked wonders for me. i've met many people that way, and i have no regrets. if you're shy, PM me and i can help you set up a dating profile if you like. it will happen, just don't be hasty and demand it happen now; it will happen when you are NOT expecting it.



DD: i'm sorry i had a hard time understanding your psot, and i thought i tackeld the worst part of it...opps? i'm sorry you feel rejected that she is getting married, but as you say, that is part of life. i'm happy with abyss, and yet, a part of me still longs for Alex, the one i thoguht for sure was the one i was going to marry. i would have done anything, anything to keep alex in my life. you may carry your torch for her for years, but no flame burns forever, and you will move on. it will hurt, and you may think you never will get over her, but you shall. i promise you that.


and for an FYI: my sister dated her high school sweetheart for 7 years, living together for four of those years. and yet, depsite everyone thinking they would wed. they broke up in thier 8th year together. to the surprise of everyone, she started dating later that year, and was engaged to my borther in law before a year had passed since her break up. theyve been married five years and are quite happy together. love doesn't have to make sense...it just is.

[Issitheus]

By the way, how did you meet abys?

[Useful]

By the way, how did you meet abys?

I'll wait patiently until she returns online for the answer to this question...

[Odessa]

By the way, how did you meet abys?


odd... i was just talking to Jason about this today.


Well, abyss and I first met on this site:

http://z15.invisionfree.com/Zoids/index.php?act=idx

it's a role playing site set around the anime world of zoids... incredibly nerdy, but I LOVED zoids. I had been playing throguh zoids Legacy on the GBA, and i was on the message boards for that game at gamefaqs.com. I saw an ad for the above site by Umi, the site's creator, and i joined up. Abyss joined two days later. We spent a lot of tiem on this site before it died (recall my first post on my "walks in" topic) as well as our friends Jason (VERY handsome african american athlete) Nick (hyperactive latino who had a crush on me, and didn't get along with abyss) Adam (a young teen who was very opininated and stubborn) Robert (the new guy) Justina (an odd girl who spent mroe time with abyss than me) and a girl onky known as "saber" who claiemd to be a 10 year old prodigy. a wacky bunch fit for a sitcom lol. we did this site for nearly a year (you can still see the archives if you wish; i'm there as Odessa and abyss is there as abyss...shock!) before school finals killed the sites hits, and nick and adam both left to make thier own sites. i kept in contact with Jason, adam, nick, and abyss, obviosuly.

Near the site's demise, abyss and i had a heart to heart online, where we found out we had feeligns for each other. we exchanged numbers and began talking, learning more about each other. there was some chemistry there, so we decided to meet in person, and see if there were any sparks. and there were sparks! abyss came to my place for a weekend; i met abyss at the train station with a full agenda: we'd walk the plaza, head down to the lake near where i live, get something to eat, and then i could decide if i wanted this person in my apartment and/or my bed. abyss changed all that quickly lol. he/she pointed out he/she had a big bag, and we should drop it off before we did anything else. so i took abyss to my place first to drop off the bag. i shared an apartment with a roommate then, and i only had my room for my private stuff, so we brought abyss stuff into my bedroom...and well, we never left there for the entire weekend lol. as i recall, we sat on the bed talking for a while, trying to break the ice of meeting in person. i pushed off my seat to sit close to abyss, and rested my head on his/her shoulder. it was instictive...but i'm um, bigger/taller, and my weight dragged us to the bed rather comically. i sat up, looked down at abyss, and our eyes locked... and since i was on top, i leaned in for our first kiss.

abyss has that effect on me....despite all my promises to myself of "i will not kiss on the first date" or last week's "i will not have anal sex during my birthday party" i just can't resist abyss. no other partner has been able to make my willingly break my own set limits for a date. i just can't help myself, and lose control of my hormones. it's very intoxicating for me :-[

and that's that. any other questions? :)

[Kuwabara]

why dont you get your freinds to post here? ::) :P

[Odessa]

why dont you get your freinds to post here? ::) :P


well, to be honest, most of them wouldnt' fit in here. adam is so PG only related material i think the site's name would offend him. robert was a bit of a fight starter, justina typed only in OMG LOL! speak, and nick would fight with abyss (nick had a crush on me and thinks abyss stole me from him). Jason is...well, sane. he might work lol. still, he i a track super star, and partly why h left our first site is he had no time for it as he was always training or on a meet. so while a good idea, it doesn't pan out in practice.

[Kuwabara]

justina typed only in OMG LOL! speak,


so?....it cant be that bad....

oh....i just looked at you profile on the site......admin?!?! o_o.... O_o.... o_O....O_O.....scary thought.... ::) :P

[Pink_Nipple]

haha funny thing, a girl asked me to date her yesterday :D

[Kuwabara]

is she hot? ::)

[Pink_Nipple]

hmm.....

i'd say she was really hot....about 2 years ago...

that's sad...

[Kuwabara]

hmm.....o well ::) :P

[Mawelli]

hmm.....

i'd say she was really hot....about 2 years ago...

that's sad...

So was it a no?

[Pink_Nipple]

it wasn't a no

i'm thinking about it now

[Kuwabara]

you have a pic of her? ::)

[Pink_Nipple]

nope sorry =D


i changed my mind =P

[DaMetzger]

Seems to me a lot of people here have the exact same problem I have - too shy and too much of a nice guy for their own good. Still, I get into ****ty situations because of this. Examples? Sure:
1.I had this friend in high school. For some odd enough reason she always clings to me when drunk. So here I am at a party and suddenly she's all over me. I don't know why, maybe she thought I wouldn't push her away. And I didn't. Then her friends start looking at me in a weird way 'cause she had a boyfriend at the time... and I didn't even do a ****in' thing. Why the hell am I the bad guy? This happened more than once too...
2.In 2007 I was in the States for a couple of months. Before my job at the Foxwoods casino started, I had about 2 weeks free time. So what can around 200 Polish students (all around 20 years old) do when in a foreign country and with lots of time to spare? Party, of course. So we went to a house party and almost everyone got wasted. Luckily I wasn't too drunk. I say luckily, cause one of the girls (really cute, I might add) started feeling lonely or something and gave ma a hug. Nothing wrong with that, sure, but then she seemed to want MORE. Nothing wrong with that either, except for the fact that I knew she was engaged. So here's me, drunk, kinda horny and without a girlfriend for the last 3 or so years and a girl I would give a lot to have is clinging to me. Try resisting that. Somehow I managed to control myself and then walked her home. The next day she was all grateful for not taking advantage of her. Still doesn't change the fact that I got nothing out of the whole situation (beside a clear conscience, that is) and every conversation with the girl afterward was awkward for her. Now tell me, if I was an asshole I'd have probably scored and in the end she would be the one feeling bad for betraying her future husband. Where's the justice in that?
OK, my little rant is now officialy over. You may feel relieved. :P

[Mawelli]

Feel comfort in the fact that we are all proud of you ^^

[Pink_Nipple]

yes, you must be the most nice guy around here.

rly :)

[DaMetzger]

Feel comfort in the fact that we are all proud of you ^^

I bet you are ;)



yes, you must be the most nice guy around here.

rly :)

I wrote a little rant, I opened up, and this is what I get? A sarcastic remark? **** you ;)

[Pink_Nipple]

**** you back, Metz :D


i wasn't sarcastic...

well...a little...maybe... ;D

[Kuwabara]

nope sorry =D


i changed my mind =P


you sure? :P

asshole! =P

[Pink_Nipple]

you sure? :P


yep :P

depends on how much you'll pay me ^^

[Kuwabara]

ow.....dang.... ::)

here's a plate of cookies *hands cookies* =P

[Useful]

This went pretty randomly off-topic ;D!

[Kuwabara]

he obviosly wanted a second opinion on this.....so i asked to see the girl so i could give my 2 cents ::)
*fart* ahhhhh......ive been holding that back for awhile =P

[Useful]

I'm actually curious myself. But I think he just can't provide a picture... which is sad-making :-C

[Pink_Nipple]

don't you think it would be strange if i asked her to provide a photo for you? =D what reason should i give?

[Kuwabara]

so wants to go out with you.....she posts a pic....we convince you to date her.....tell her that ::)
duh! =P

[Pink_Nipple]

who said i refuzed?

huh?

[Kuwabara]

O_O....good point..... damn....you got me there.... =P

[Useful]

Just do it, the experience is good for you. Post pics later!

[Pink_Nipple]

haha i'll try my best :D

btw i think Vicky is still posting here (about 30 mins already)

[Useful]

Well, the hard part's already been done for you. She asked YOU!

[Pink_Nipple]

Not that i really wanted to ::)

[Useful]

Yes, but it could still be a good experience.


....


I just had an epic thread idea. ;)

[color=white]It will be ALL IN WHITE!

[Odessa]

what, no more questions? did you all get laid? ;)

[Kuwabara]

umm....no.... =_(

[TheEndOfAllThingsGreen]

A bit late but: thanks Mawelli and Useful, I'll try your suggestions on my way back to college at the airport.

Been looking atmy past behaviour at college recently (although I'm gonna transfer) and I remember having some ridiculous and scary/borderline paranoid thoughts about other people back then.

I would hyperanalyze everything the opposite person would be doing in a conversation, their eyes, their body language, the subjects they brought up/why they were aksing me about various things and drawing my own conclusions from this (most usually negative)- my thinking before during and after a conversation with someone would revolve around if they were trying to humilate me/get information out of me in same way...


I guess my new years resolution will be to shed some of that paranoia.


Anyways, thanks.

[Mawelli]

what, no more questions? did you all get laid? ;)


Well...since your asking I have to say.........................no.



A bit late but: thanks Mawelli and Useful, I'll try your suggestions on my way back to college at the airport.

Been looking atmy past behaviour at college recently (although I'm gonna transfer) and I remember having some ridiculous and scary/borderline paranoid thoughts about other people back then.

I would hyperanalyze everything the opposite person would be doing in a conversation, their eyes, their body language, the subjects they brought up/why they were aksing me about various things and drawing my own conclusions from this (most usually negative)- my thinking before during and after a conversation with someone would revolve around if they were trying to humilate me/get information out of me in same way...


I guess my new years resolution will be to shed some of that paranoia.


Anyways, thanks.


No prob. Anytime ^^

[Divine Dragoon]

what, no more questions? did you all get laid? ;)


well.......I'm not sure i want to keep trying haha going throu life looking for love and not lust just sucks! .........By! by! ....click BOOM!!!

[Odessa]

lol oh fine. just dont' forget i'm here if you need me for anythign at all... pun QUITE inteneded :)

[Mawelli]

Why are you all the way in the states =/

[Pink_Nipple]

HA-HA-HA

"No action before marriage", that's what she said. I was ****ing shocked. Not that i care that much, but i just can't understand this point of view.

[abyssion1337]

HA-HA-HA

"No action before marriage", that's what she said. I was ****ing shocked. Not that i care that much, but i just can't understand this point of view.
see this is something I hate about people, they almost never can understand viewpoints that they themselves don't follow

[Odessa]

now sweetie, do i have to give you the "love and accept humanity" speech again?


as for waiting till marriage, i was of that belief myself until A) realized i liked girls, making marriage kind of hard, and B) i ended up losing my virginity to rape. once i lost it, i figured what the hell, if i did it once, a few dozen more times won't hurt, right?

still, there are many reasons to wait. to make sure it's special with "the one," religious reasons (some people still refuse to use birth control on religious grounds), fear of STD's, or even cultural reasons (family honor say). having been in that camp, i can say it is foolish as you waste so much time hyping up sex, when it's not all THAT special/sacred/etc. but that's me. everyone needs to find their own way.

[Divine Dragoon]

I guess it was the for someone special on my side. I didn't care if she was or not. It was just my part to say Hey I'm yours and no one else to prove no one but you kinda thing. hehe :)

[Ionzorg]

**ONLY READ THE FOLLOWING IF YOU REALLY REALLY WANT TO. I WOULD UNDERSTAND IF NOT...LOOK AT IT!**

Hey guys, thought I would drop in for a second, make sure everyone knows I'm still alive and all. *not-zombie-or-corpse-thumbs-up* Plus, I've got some rather interesting news...fortunately, although it isn't a question, per se, it is related to the thread and past discussions. But first, onto my commenting on past conversations!

Metzger: You sound like you definitely know that there is a line to be drawn, in any situation, and it's a reasonable line, but there is also a distinct lack of self-control. I can sympathize with that. ::) A boyfriend is a boyfriend, sure, but an engagement is a major commitment, and despite huge odds against you, you recognized that and resisted temptation. Your gold star should arrive by mail in 3 weeks to 8 years. EXPECT IT. :P

Nipple: Unless you've already decided one way or another, I say go for it. Always worth the experience, and if it's been awhile, a refresher course in intimate human relations is probably a good thing to have. Then again, you could still show pics...

abyss: Yes, yes, I detest the human race as a whole as well, for a majority of reasons. I agree 100% with your statement, and it's something I've always thought myself. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but when almost every one of the occasional times that I see a post by you, you're laughing at someone's flaws or otherwise trying to insult or humiliate others...I'm concerned for you, but at the same time a little bit irked. No disrespect to the Otaku God, of course, and I really love your posts when they aren't full of malice; hence, I'd rather not say "If you can't say nice things, say nothing at all." I don't think anyone wants that, so...I'm rooting for you to get through this rough patch. Feel better soon.

Ionzorg: Okay, so two things, one sex-related, one dating-related. When I tell a story, I tend to take a long time doing it (some people might know that better than others), so bare with...I swear, I'm not drawing it out to brag...



what, no more questions? did you all get laid? ;)

Ha ha, ha...

1. So yeah, as I mentioned in the HAPPY NEW YEAR! thread, it was a good time at a friend's house, and unspeakable things happened that I'm contradictorily speaking about now. I'd say it was about 12:00-1:00AM when the majority of people had drank about enough alcohol and stopped, and it must have been about at this time that my good friend Heather randomly kissed me, and in my head I hear that lovely sound of the ice breaking. Luckily, she was single and VERY good looking (only grievance: no chest whatsoever; ironically we're prone to cracking jokes about that ::)), so I wasn't complaining.

Nothing at all else happened with her until about 5 hours later, when everyone had sobered to varying degrees and began buggering off to settle on any various bed or couch. The second that the last person left the room, we were alone on the sofa bed, and...the rest explains itself. So, I'm giving due credit to alcohol, as we weren't drunk during the act, but drinking broke the ice and led to the end result. :) In the morning (or should I say, immediately afterword, as we were sort of interrupted by the homeowner banging pots and pans to wake everyone up XD), it was as if nothing had changed between us, which I'd say we were both happy with. I seem to have that effect on people: COMPLETE lack of awkwardness...

So yes Vicky, someone at least did. ::) I would recommend the experience to almost anyone, save for toddlers, nuns, the like.

2. Now, onto the dating story! Vicky in particular, this is something I'm sure you will get a kick out of. ;)

Alright, so in this thread there has been some discussion of a certain, rather useful but frowned upon tool?recurring discussion I might add. Some think it's great, most find it objectionable and ludicrous, and a lot of people just don't want to involve themselves with it. On another website I occasionally browse, it's been mentioned many times with rather favourable reviews, and although beforehand I really didn't think it was feasible, these factors combined adequately sparked my curiosity and made me want to know more about it.

Yes, my friends: I'm talking about online dating. Seriously!

The name is OkCupid, the most highly recommended free dating site I'd heard of. It was here that I made an account, fully aware that there was an age restriction, but I wasn't expecting at the time that actual dating would come of it. But, truth be told, about a week after making the account I get a "Here are some people from your area!" email, and I browsed a couple of profiles. Imagine my shock and surprise when I come across one that looked almost EXACTLY like mine. 0_0 A university student, oddly enough.

I sent her a brief message, and we got to talking. We were both genuinely creeped out, disturbed and pleased with the unnatural amount of things we have in common, many, many more of which were revealed in later discourse. Everything fit spectacularly, we even play opposing instruments in Rock Band (I guitar/vocals, she drums), so that there would be no arguments over who plays what. :D She's no stranger to dating younger guys, so that wasn't an issue, she tends towards tall men, I tend toward short, cute women, etc, etc. Creepy and disturbing, yes, but good news all in all. We're not quite dating yet, but we talked for about 7 hours the other night and have been in regular email correspondence for the week or so we've known each other. (She just sent one a few minutes ago, actually; it's about half as long as this, but that's still a fair bit. :P)

There's a length of distance between us (3-4 hour drive, maybe... :-\ then again, that's hardly unusual for us Canucks), but other than that, there you have it: proof that dating websites, at least with a little luck, can bring about good things. Enjoy what you've accomplished, Mistress Vicky. You've earned it. ;D

[Issitheus]

I met my girlfriend online... I joinged MyYearbook because one of my friends had and I just wanted to check it out, and, lo and behold, mere days after I signed up, she had sent me a message. She lives about a half hour drive away (or... 3 hour bike ride...), but she is wonderful and I love her. There's my online love story.

[Kuwabara]

what, no more questions? did you all get laid? ;)

Ha ha, ha...

1. So yeah, as I mentioned in the HAPPY NEW YEAR! thread, it was a good time at a friend's house, and unspeakable things happened that I'm contradictorily speaking about now. I'd say it was about 12:00-1:00AM when the majority of people had drank about enough alcohol and stopped, and it must have been about at this time that my good friend Heather randomly kissed me, and in my head I hear that lovely sound of the ice breaking. Luckily, she was single and VERY good looking (only grievance: no chest whatsoever; ironically we're prone to cracking jokes about that ::)), so I wasn't complaining.

Nothing at all else happened with her until about 5 hours later, when everyone had sobered to varying degrees and began buggering off to settle on any various bed or couch. The second that the last person left the room, we were alone on the sofa bed, and...the rest explains itself. So, I'm giving due credit to alcohol, as we weren't drunk during the act, but drinking broke the ice and led to the end result. :) In the morning (or should I say, immediately afterword, as we were sort of interrupted by the homeowner banging pots and pans to wake everyone up XD), it was as if nothing had changed between us, which I'd say we were both happy with. I seem to have that effect on people: COMPLETE lack of awkwardness...

So yes Vicky, someone at least did. ::) I would recommend the experience to almost anyone, save for toddlers, nuns, the like.


so where is our donuts? ::) :P

[Pink_Nipple]

k, if we're going this way


abyss - you say such things to me, who always have misunderstandings with people? i just can't accept things that i can't accept. The difference is - whether you going to change someone's point of view or not. Idk, maybe i should argue in that case, maybe not. There ARE some wrong viewpoints in this world (imo at least)

vicky - i argee, there's NOTHING special (imo again) and moreover, she doesn't have any good reason.



i'm leaving for a day so that's all for now, sry Zorg :)

[Mawelli]

Woah way to go Ionzorg ^^

[Odessa]

(gives zorg a big hug)


congrats, big guy! it sounds like you are having some serious positive happenings in the love life department.

i'm curious though...the girl at the new years party? are you two "acting nothing was wierd" as in you two are just friends, nothing more? friends with benefits? or worst case, she thinks you two are dating when you don't think so? if you have not done so already, i strongly advise you to talk to her, and make sure you know where both of you stand on what happened, and where you two want to take it from here.

still, i would pursue the girl you met online. it seems like you two really hit it off, and that's wonderful! online dating has it's disadvantages, believe me i know, but when it works, it works wonders! its great assest is putting you into contact with people you never would have met normally, and greatly expands the possibiliities.


i've not used okcupid, but i am tempted to check it out now. i might as well... abyss and i do(did?) have an open relationship, and with him/her doing who knows what without calling me, i see no reason not too. of course, if abyss were to call me, that might be a reason not to... (HINT HINT ABYSS).

and as you will likely soon discover, women will not flock to you. it's the "rule of engagement." the further engaged in a relationship you are, the more likely you are to be approched by someone. women love confidence, and being in a relationship makes guys very confident; it's an great irony of the world, let me tell you.


still, i wish you the best of luck in you excursions, my friend! ;)

[Divine Dragoon]

I met my girlfriend online... I joinged MyYearbook because one of my friends had and I just wanted to check it out, and, lo and behold, mere days after I signed up, she had sent me a message. She lives about a half hour drive away (or... 3 hour bike ride...), but she is wonderful and I love her. There's my online love story.


so that's the girl that sent me the facebook Friend req haha i was like i don't know anyone from .....Ahhhhh must know Issitheus hehe Oh nad I wanted to know who had the I support big boobs in anime Sig a wile back? I wanted to ask for real permission to use there sig for a Facebook grupe I all ready made using it and if they said no i"ll close it Thanks man BTW it's in my groups on FB Zarxrax's vid is linked there and has full cred too so same ? for that as well

[Mawelli]

Burn facebook!! BURN!!

[Odessa]

(sniff sniff) that's my little pyro!

[Divine Dragoon]

Burn facebook!! BURN!!


HAha just because your mommy won't let you go one there! hahahahahehehehe!!!

[Mawelli]

Burn facebook!! BURN!!


HAha just because your mommy won't let you go one there! hahahahahehehehe!!!

BUUUUUUUUURRRRRNNNNN!!!!!!

[Odessa]

ok, now you're scaring.... run away!!

[Divine Dragoon]

Burn facebook!! BURN!!


HAha just because your mommy won't let you go one there! hahahahahehehehe!!!

BUUUUUUUUURRRRRNNNNN!!!!!!


and that my friends is why Mawelli's mom won't let him have a Facebook or myspace account. :)

[abyssion1337]

oh come on you know the song

"If you really love somebody light them on fire"

[Mawelli]

oh come on you know the song

"If you really love somebody light them on fire"

Actually I don't

[abyssion1337]

I think I'm misquoting the song just a bit but you get the general idea

[Mawelli]

Yeah I get the idea...but I'm quite sure I havn't heard it. Should I listen to it?

[abyssion1337]

I'm quite sure you likely have heard it actually

[Mawelli]

Hmm...well if you could rembember the name of the song I might then know :D

[abyssion1337]

It was in amv hell

[Mawelli]

Ahh, well when I get home I'll have to listen to it. At school atm...

[Issitheus]

It's before the Candy Girl clip

[Mawelli]

Watched...now I know ^^

[Odessa]

...and knowing is half the battle!

[TheEndOfAllThingsGreen]

Alright I have another Q, not about secks and dating per se, more about female anatomy. Feel free to call me the king of the vigins after this.

Question 1: Something that had bugged me for a couple days, went a way then just came back again. I figure I may as well ask it because if I did in real life I would probably get hit, sorru . Anyway: How do Girls sit, as in a chair? For some reason I always thought that if they sat normally, like a guy, 'it' would be open a little- think of two pieces of paper held side by side, then push them onto a hard surface, like a table. if your doing it right, each piece bends outward in a different direction. That's the gist of what i'm asking about.

I theorized that this is why most of them (the ones I seen anyway) sit cross legged.

Second: How do they walk. wouldn't this cause 'chafing'?

Third: Breasts: Haven't seen it in person, but in animes it seems like females have lots and lots of nerves in their bewbs. I know its probably exaggerated in animes, but if someone were to grab/whack one, or a girl ran into a door or wall or something, what would happen?

I ask this because way back in middle school I recall an incident in Spanish and we had a busty Spanish teacher. Everyone was standing for some radom or another (class had ended I guess.) and my friend, who was standing at a normal distance behind the teacher has was asking her a question, with one hand raised. The teacher whirled around and accidentally smacked his hand with her boob, and she didn't seem to notice.

and finally;

fourth: I think most of us that are male know how much it hurts when kicked in the nuts.

Question: Are girls invulnerable to this kind of attack?

Obviously aside from just the pain of getting kicked, will it double them over.


and thats all.


Disclaimer:

Just so you know, I don't go around looking at/for these things. I dont look at a girls crotch when she is walking or sitting, nor do I put much effort into these thoughts. I also don't go around covertly whacking a girl tits to see their reaction, nor to I spontaniously go into crotch kicking crusades against girls. I'm not a pervert, not mater now pervy these questions sound, even to me.

[Odessa]

psh, this isn't pervy. i've had guys ask me a lot more embaressing things, i assure you ;)

lets see what i can do here.


1: generally, the lips are closed. think of it as a vice; there is a pressure keeping the lips in place. when you place an "object" between the lips, said object feels pressure (as i understand it) as the lips close around it fairly tightly. if you ever watch a hentai where the girl is getting a tongue bath down there, you will notice how his/her hands usually hold her open, ass spreading your legs is generally not enough.

tidbit: girls almost always sit cross legged, or with thier feet together, as my mother says, "always keep the gates of hell closed."


2: interesting. i often wonder the same of male anatomy lol. genrally, there's no chaffing, unless you are doing something wrong, or you are swollen down there and are more sensitive to it. i imagine wlaking is the same for male and female anatomy, where you don't think anything of it with your equipment, but thinking of another kind confuses the hell out of us lol.

3: breast sensitivity varies greatly by person, as well as time of the month. me, i have very sensitive breasts, and if i'm carrying a box and say someone bumps into the box, pushing it into me, i feel it. and that example, HURTS. not "kick to the groin' bad ( as i can tell) but it's sharp and sudden. i won't fall over in pain, but i wont' be happy for a while. not all touches are erotic, and just hitting them won't cause intense pleasure per hentai.

groping, rubbing, kissing...that's another story. it is by far my favorite method of arousel, and much prefer my breats being played with than anything down below. while a complete stranger grabbing my breast wouldn't be pleasurable ( the fear out weighing pleasure) a close friend grabbing my chest wouldnt' be frowned upon (usually). it would surprise me sure, but if i felt safe with the person that i wasn't in danger, then i likely wouldn't resist; i think hentai gets that right. not for everyone mind you, but it is far more realistic than random guy on a train grabbing your and it feeling good (granted, if you were used to this and weren't afraid on the train, it could be believed...but i doubt it, unless said girl was feeling particualr horny at that precise moment).

and while not my favorite subject, rape. as i have been raped, i can say it's scary at first, disgusting even. but once the initial disgust wears off (and that may not happen) your BODY will respond, even if your heart/soul is not in it. you may not want to do this, but your body will respond as if you did, and some guys will claim that as justification, that "she was asking for it." this is not true. i can say i orgasm'd when i was i was raped, but it did not make the unwanted touch tolerable to me. if anything, it adds to the women's shame, as you can't contol your own body in this case.

still, the bottom line here that while all breasts are sensitive, not all to the same extant. one ex of mine, for example, has very sensitive breasts, but they almost always hurt her, and not pleasure. she wears a special bra to counter this, and prefers her breasts not touched during sexy time. and for me again, my breasts are sensitive and i love them being touched during sex, but if someone plays too much, they will start to hurt, and on occasion they will turn black and blue and be quite sore for a while.

your teacher may have felt something (pain/pleasure) or not, but as a teacher, she likely didn't want to show any emotion and move along before it drew attention. just my guess.


4: i think so, though i have never been kicked there to test this out. it hurts as any kick would, but it's not as sensitive as the penis/balls to said kick.

any other questions? :)

[TheEndOfAllThingsGreen]

Yeah, thanks for the clarifacation! That should be all for now.

[Jazean]

as always vicky, you never cease to amaze me.

regarding the 4th question:

there'd be pain, not as much as a groin kick, but because of how your skeletal structure is set up the kick would be hitting the pelvic bones and i can guess it'd be a similar to getting kicked in the sternum (the bone connecting your ribs in the front).

[Mawelli]

It hurts like hell to get kicked in the balls...especially by a football player...or "soccer" players like the americans call it :D

[Odessa]

let us hope no one ever needs to be kicked there.


unless they deserve it.

[Mawelli]

It really is a restricted zone...I mean...damn..

[Odessa]

hehe, restricted zone..... arnt' rules made to be broken though? :)


whenever i picture a guy getting hit there, i imagine a computer shutting down with a power failure; it will be ok in a while, but it takes time to reboot the system to operatin status.

[Mawelli]

Power failure is painless, kicked in the nuts is not...

[Odessa]

this is true. i just mean that it seems a guy needs time to "reboot" if you will, that it shuts down his brain momenterilly or something.

[Issitheus]

We become oblivious to everything that isn't unimaginable pain

[Odessa]

We become oblivious to everything that isn't unimaginable pain


good to know. i guess thats why they teach us to kick there in women's self defense classes and all. i just can't imagine that much pain though.

[Issitheus]

unimaginable pain



i just can't imagine that much pain though.

I wonder why...

[Drago87]

Would anyone know a good dating site? Just something to start out with, I'm 21 and keep being nagged and bothered by my friends and family about not having a girl. Of course despite all my effort, I still get picked on. But I still choose not to give up.

[Odessa]

unimaginable pain



i just can't imagine that much pain though.

I wonder why...



you... make an EXCELLENT point there, my friend. kudos!


and Drago, it really depends on what you are looking for in a dating site. if you want something simple (no forms) and free, i use craig's list most often. i've heard good thing about okcupid as well. i used to use sweet on geeks, but that's a tad iffy. i also used.... "unconvential" dating sites, as i can be kind of kinky. i may have had a subscription with the adultfriendfinder line of websites for one night stands and such... (cough).

Still, a yahoo search of "best dating sites" gives you this top ten list, as voted by users.

http://www.datingsitesandservices.com/top10sites.php


they have african american dating sites, jewish dating sites, interacial, BDSM, and more. you may have to pay for some services, so before you do that make sure to priotize what you are looking for in a dating site. once you have one you like, i recomend getting at least a 3 month subscription, and putting some serious time and energy into finding someone.

it takes time, but if it pays off, you won't be sorry.

starting out, you could try creating the eharmony free profile (http://www.eharmony.com/singles/) i don't like their site personally as they are christian based, but the have one of the most detailed questions to finding a partner. if you have never filled out a dating profile, it will give you some ideas of things to mention when you do create a profile on a site you plan on using. be warned, eharmony's questionaire is LONG, so either set aside time for it, or do it in multiple sessions if you do.

if you have any other questions on dating sites, feel free to ask ;)

[Drago87]

Thanks for the tip. I just checked out the yahoo personals and I think I'll go with that since it had a way better deal then eharmony, (which you are right about that questionnaire being long OMG. :o :o) Anyway, I'm gonna stick with that and see how it runs from there.

[Odessa]

i have used yahoo for my mail, YIM, groups, etc, but i've never used their dating services. not sure why, really. still, i hear it is recommended, so hopefully you will have some luck with it.

[Mawelli]

We become oblivious to everything that isn't unimaginable pain

And with unimaginable we mean totally out of this world....

[Odessa]

if you say so. i would think childbirth would be worse to make up for it, but being so vulnerable there must ****.

[Kuwabara]

hmmm....maybe child birth is like getting kicked in the nuts....but more spread out...so it isnt as bad.....

[Odessa]

hmmm....maybe child birth is like getting kicked in the nuts....but more spread out...so it isnt as bad.....


you watch a clip of a women giving birth, and then tell me "it isn't so bad."

[Kuwabara]

im talking comparatively...something could hurt less then something else...yet still hurts like hell ::)

[Mawelli]

I'll say child birth is like us getting in the nuts...since we can get kicked in the nuts many times...giving birth is also painful...balancing things out

[Kuwabara]

yeah...thats what i meant... ::) :P

[Issitheus]

We become oblivious to everything that isn't unimaginable pain

And with unimaginable we mean totally out of this world....

That makes it sound like a good thing...

[Odessa]

maybe it is. it's so good for 1/11111111111 millionth of a second, and the pain is caused by the loss of this intense pleasure.

right?

[abyssion1337]

this is one of the worlds oldest arguments and it's still on the top of my list of things I don't want to hear about: the truth is there is no answer

[rocklord2004]

since you guys mentioned pain ill toss my 2 cents in. try getting hit in the chest a week after having heart surgery right where the incision was. id take getting kicked in the nuts over that any day.

[Kuwabara]

i havent had that happen....but soon after i got stitches on my hand... i barely bumped it against the wall....and it HURT LIKE HELL for like...10 minutes....

[Mawelli]

since you guys mentioned pain ill toss my 2 cents in. try getting hit in the chest a week after having heart surgery right where the incision was. id take getting kicked in the nuts over that any day.

Well the good thing is you usually don't have heart surgery too many times and then git hit on that spot. There is a possibility of getting kicked in the nuts more often though...

Any1 got some peanuts?

[Odessa]

and now, for something different! a trip to mistress Vicky's mail bag!

A shy user who wishes to remain anoymous has set in a letter for help. let's see what he/she says:


Dear Mistress Vicky,
i read most of the dating tips you had but either overlooked or accadentally skipped advise for this. do you have any tips for shy people who live in areas where anime/manga is fairly looked down upon? its hard for me to find people to talk about anime to in my area let alone find a girl who enjoys it.

Shy Guy


Well Shy Guy, one of the greatest assets for the shy is online dating. it may seem tacky, but it allows you to advertise yourself without any fear. while i am no longer shy myself, i was voted "most shy" in high school; it has taken me years to get over that quirk. still, i have used internet dating to great success, espicially when i just started dating (which wasn't until i was 23; again, i was quite shy!).

not all internet dates are great; if you read all of my past posts, you will see i ended up getting raped on one date from the internet. bad judgement on my part. but i also have had some of my best relationships come from online dating, including my first lover.


if online dating doesn't appeal to you, try making a club of some kind where anime (or any interest of yours) would not be looked down upon. start off as a simple online group (yahoo is good for this) and put up fliers at local comic book stores, bookstores that sell manga/anime, and electronic stores that sell anime (best buy, FYE, blockbuster, etc). this can be a LOCAL (key word) place to talk about your hobbies,and attract local people to come chat.

if you have the resources, set up a routine showing (say, once a week/month) and invite people to your place/school/club/library to watch screenings. the bottom line is, if your hobby (in this case, anime) is looked down upon, set up a place where people who do like anime can gather. it may take time (Ms. Right may not be a founding member) but once you have a palce set up, you can advertise your club. if your'e still in school, you can ask people to come to your club without being strange, as it gives you a reason to approach people.

me, i set up a VERY diverse project; a LGBT group. Obviosly, i outed myself as bisexual (at the time, i now go by pansexual) and that was initimidating. but others joined, and we formed a good community. i met only one date this way, but the long term effect on the school was outstanding. and i made many friends too.



if this sounds like too much work, consider joining a club of some other interest that is not looked down upon (as you say). if you have a mild interest in foreign films, joining a club for that would increase your social networks. you meet new people, and if you find someone you like who likes you, your liking anime won't be an issue. she's bound to like something you don't like too, and that's ok. just don't join a club for something you really don't like (say, baseball) as then you are decieving her into thinking you have something in common. that's a no-no. me, i joined a herbal medicine and yoga group; it was something i knew nothing about, but i was sincerly interested in. i met several women this way, and had a few dates as well. i never would have met these people if i didn't leave my normal comfort zone and try something new.


still, meeting someone isn't enough if you're too shy to ask. there's no easy way to ask someone out. it's one of the most gut wrenching experiances, admitting you like someone, asking them out, as you never know what they will say. and remember, people will say no. it happens. i had a lot of people reject me before i had my first date. the rejection hurts, but there really is no way to prevent it. know this though: women like a guy who can make that first move. we know it's not easy to bite the bullet, and it goes a long way to see someone risk rejection for our affection. it makes us feel wanted, attractive, and it's very empowering. i found this to be true: most women need a reason to say no, but none to say yes. she may not find you attractive and thats all the reason she needs; but if she has no reason, and you like her enough to ask her out, i have found most women will give you the benefit of the doubt and give you a chance.

after she says yes, you find out that aski0ng her out is the easy part... but thats another story! :)



Thanks for tuning in! This is Mistress Vicky, LIVE on AMV Hell.


( i am having way too much fun with this!)

[Mawelli]

( i am having way too much fun with this!)


You deserve it ^^

[Odessa]

do i? do i deserve a sex advise column for being good, or not so good? hm....

[abyssion1337]

wait, shy guy as in
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff115/abyssion1337/1213481290679.jpg

[Odessa]

...


CREEPY.....

[Divine Dragoon]

this is one of the worlds oldest arguments and it's still on the top of my list of things I don't want to hear about: the truth is there is no answer


Hem!!! Hem!!! I asced this to my doc one time just BSing at the cafe in town anyway he said that child birth to compair to a mail understanding is close to kidney stones...yep passing kidney stones WITHOUT the breakup sound thing we do now is the closest thing but still does not do it justest and this coming from a guy with a PHD in Med haha and i agree in the say balls hurt YES THEY DO!!!! if any one read my first post in walks in you know it's kinda like a man code not to attack there haha I myself will fall down in massive pain if that happens to me and might i remind all you i just got back from a 3 day say in the ER after i beat the **** out of the guy who put i knife in me I know pain and the balls are the one for me (i haven't had kidney stones so I can't tell tho)



Any1 got some peanuts?


just go to the store you lazy jackass! haha you had that coming hehe :D

[Issitheus]

knife?

[Odessa]

here issi (hands knife)

so um, what are you going to do with it, am i going to regret giving it to you?

[Kuwabara]

maybe.....id recommended that we back away slowly......turn.....then.......RUN LIKE A LITTLE BITCH!!! ::) :P

[Odessa]

psh, you can run, if you want to be known as a PANSY.

(****s shotgun) me, i like to be more proactive.

[Kuwabara]

you didnt get the reference.... ::)

[Odessa]

you didnt get the reference.... ::)


who says i didn't? did you think you just didn't get my reference in respone to your reference? :)

[Kuwabara]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnVvTxJ7LB0

at 1:55 ::) :P

[Odessa]

as i said, i know the reference.

my reference of the shotgun was from the vampire books i read, or how Sookie met Debbie... but i dont' expect you to get that reference, my little bitch :)

[Kuwabara]

i be no ones bitch! ::)

[Odessa]

( cracks whip)

say that again, BITCH.

[Kuwabara]

i aint no ones bitch!!!

O_O.....OH SHI- *runs*