[!Je$u$!]

Damn Metro Last Light's graphics look great! Gonna look kick ass on my Sony 32inch :D. Its coming back to rape our PC's one more lol

http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/09/Metro-Last-Light-5.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/117/1171638/metro-2033-last-light-20110531001607970.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/117/1173674/metro-last-light-20110607022021155.jpg

[jinzo64]

sometimes i wish they'd pump these types of graphics in to rpgs.

[abyssion1337]

They already do

[jinzo64]

erm your probably right i just can't think of an rpg that looks that good.

[Haar]

erm your probably right i just can't think of an rpg that looks that good.

TES IV

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0frNcGkMu64/TjyiODKDZfI/AAAAAAAABCk/Q0nA6NmVRgA/s1600/oblivion_shivering_isles.jpg

TES V

http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/11/Skyrim-Mods-Skyrim-HD.jpg

Final Fantasy XIII

http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/9/5/6/2/2/4/1080p_001.jpg.jpg

Final Fantasy XIV

http://stfcc.org/ffxiv/i/ffxivgame%202010-09-02%2013-49-49-38.png

[tanis_lionheart]

I'm thinking of creating a new character in Skyrim...back-up my other character to a USB.

Now that I know what's buggy and what's not I can go for the ~100%.

[jinzo64]

i hadn't considered TES games

and i forgot about FFXIII even though i own it.

but then again for rpgs the game plays the most important thing in my opinion not sure why i mentioned them needing brilliant graphics.

[abyssion1337]

I'm thinking of creating a new character in Skyrim...back-up my other character to a USB.

Now that I know what's buggy and what's not I can go for the ~100%.
I play on PC so I can bypass any bugs but pressing tilde and imputing what needs to be solved

[tanis_lionheart]

I'd love to do that, but playing less than 200 for a PS3 was a LOT cheaper than building a new computer (my current is damn near a decade out of date).

Medical bills take presence over gaming.

[Diclonius]

still cant fix the damn markarth bug where they try to arrest you and you cant go to jail they just keep attacking you, I am at lvl 47 and practically immortal in legendary dragon plate but its still annoying to keep having to stop and kill gaurds all the time

[Diclonius]

right now I am bouncing between Skyrim on Pc and SCV on box at least till all the other fighters come out over the next couple months like phantom breaker streetfighter x tekken the higurashi game persona arena and others. my fight stick is going to get a real workout

[abyssion1337]

still cant fix the damn markarth bug where they try to arrest you and you cant go to jail they just keep attacking you, I am at lvl 47 and practically immortal in legendary dragon plate but its still annoying to keep having to stop and kill gaurds all the time
that one is easy, go into the temple of talos, say you'l never take me alive. then run out of Markarth with the guards chasing you. I think some imperitals will arest you after you leave markarth, if not just give it some time.

[Lionforce1337]

All this talk about good graphics in RPGs. Sure Skyrim and FFXIII are definitely mentionables, but another game I'm just gonna throw out there: Mass Effect 3. I was kinda dubious considering the graphics of the first two being merely okay, but this one just surprised me. Definitely some of the best landscapes I've seen in a long time. The people still move like robots quite a bit, but everything else is just gorgeous.

Of course, I guess the Mass Effect series isn't really the "RPG" every one else was thinking of was it. -__- Oh well. Just had to get my rant out there. I've been playing it like crazy since it came out and it is just awesome. 0__0

[abyssion1337]

ME 3 decided that all new models were the way to go, cause they're EA thought they needed to change everything, EA is going to slow kill Bioware.

[jinzo64]

thats not nice of EA but that is what they tend to do.
they do tend to ruin game franchises like burnout and C+C.

havn't play C+C 4 but my brother keeps saying how the ones thar EA had nothing to do with were better.

[abyssion1337]

C+C is doing fine, EA apparently wants the games industry to lose its cred and fail though, based on their incredibly annoying policies, wouldn't even be a problem if tards stopped paying for it. If you want to affect change you have to be steadfast. Don't buy day one DLC, don't pay for content that's already on the disc, don't buy ME 3. Don't get an Origin account.

[jinzo64]

C+C is doing fine, EA apparently wants the games industry to lose its cred and fail though, based on their incredibly annoying policies, wouldn't even be a problem if tards stopped paying for it. If you want to affect change you have to be steadfast. Don't buy day one DLC, don't pay for content that's already on the disc, don't buy ME 3. Don't get an Origin account.

i dont tend to buy DLC at anytime bought some for GT 5 i think thats it
not sure what you mean by paying for content thats already on the disc? unless you mean buying the game.
wasn't sure about buying ME 3
hadn't heard of origin until just now

[abyssion1337]

No I don't mean buying the game, sometimes there's content for a game that comes on the disc but you can't access it until you pay money, so that publishers can make money from something even if the game was bought used.

[Guthix]

i question why do ppl tolerate that kind of ****?

[abyssion1337]

I'm not sure, laziness perhaps, but we can stop it by simply not paying for it.

[jinzo64]

i don't think ihave any games like that.
but that is lame.
making you pay 40 for the game then more to unlock all the content on the disc.

[Backmask]

Unfortunately, ME 3 is an incredible disappointment. I'm not going to say much. I'll just let this video and a few pictures explain only a few of the faults in the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vNJZMH2B6I&feature=plcp&context=C3f1b0aeUDOEgsToPDskKhS9hl9MHQV6O_N4xZ6sWy
http://i.imgur.com/XyaVe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4fpVx.jpg

[Haar]

You know what they say: If you call it a homage, people can't call it plagiarism. Of course, I don't think they even bothered to do that so...

[Kaiju]

Back, Spoiler Tags, ****ing use them.

[tanis_lionheart]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E04jd77OMKA/TSzA3Rpd0XI/AAAAAAAAAHc/DwX5U15wZ9M/s1600/092.jpg

[NodMan]

Movie Effect 3... Its fun when I get to play...

[glory of llama]

Yes, please, spoiler tags... I didn't need to hear the endings or about tali. Damnit wtf now I'm bored at work AND depressed.

[abyssion1337]

Who the **** cares is she's modeled after a transsexual.

[Backmask]

Who the **** cares is she's modeled after a transsexual.

It sparked some controversy about Ashley being a transsexual, which was proven false. What really started the controversy was not that she was based on a transsexual model, but rather some trolling that occurred on Bioware's website that, though I'm not informed on a few details, involved an important member of Bioware announcing some transsexual love scenes; however, as I previously said, this was proven as an elaborate troll.

To lighten up the mood, here are some images from Type-Moon's upcoming visual novel A Magician's Night. Seeing as the Aoko looks this delicious, I'm disappointed that it's not going to be an eroge.
It should be noted that this image is a promotional image, and A Magician's Night will not feature Arcueid, Saber, or Ryougi Shiki.
http://i.imgur.com/lWpxo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8y3ud.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VhDg1.jpg

[Kaiju]

Yes, please, spoiler tags... I didn't need to hear the endings or about tali. Damnit wtf now I'm bored at work AND depressed.

Tali only commits suicide if you side with the Geth instead of the Quarians, there is a workaround with a high paragon meter or previous choices, so Tali may yet live to see the end of the game.

[abyssion1337]

You didn't answer my question nor did you contribute to the discussion, because the simple answer is: IT DOESN'T ****ING MATTER ONE YOCTOGRAM

[glory of llama]

Lol I'll be honest... I still looked at the spoilers!

I don't have hosokawas restraint lol


Also, there are some hot trannies ... >.>

[Backmask]

You didn't answer my question nor did you contribute to the discussion, because the simple answer is: IT DOESN'T ****ING MATTER ONE YOCTOGRAM

Actually, I did answer. When you asked why it mattered if she were modeled after a transsexual, I explained why it was relevant via explaining the controversy that Bioware failed to handle properly. I'll admit that the image does make it seem like it was discriminating against transsexuals; however, that was not the case.

[!Je$u$!]

anyone gonna play darksiders 2? in this installment you can play as Death, which is awesome :) here are some screenies

http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/50650/ss_092476a9964e36e261635ddbf1d441ecfff37173.1920x1 080.jpg?t=1330987323
http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/50650/ss_5e974c534b3ec2779df82d807d03325296bde0c8.1920x1 080.jpg?t=1330987323
http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/50650/ss_649fd8ae91ac1d7b3f109c0cbc096f21b1dfecfb.1920x1 080.jpg?t=1330987323
http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/50650/ss_3859c1c01c2f0b524a3b61c447b29668af86b20d.1920x1 080.jpg?t=1330987323

[thedarkmessenger]

I haven't even played Darksiders 1 yet :S

[Backmask]

Bro, I plan on pre-ordering the collector's edition soon.

[Lionforce1337]

Wow all this hate on ME3. I didn't really appreciate the spoilers btw. >_<

Either way I'm not going to try and get into a discussion about how EA is slowly ruining games, but this is probably the last game I'm getting of theirs. I can't complain about paying extra for DLC because the DLC is not even necessary to the experience, it is just there. I probably wouldn't have gotten it if it didn't come with collectors edition. Regardless of the countless bugs and such I'm still finding it enjoyable. I'll just remember not to bring it up next time seeing as its getting hate EVERYWHERE because of EA. I wish they'd never let themselves get bought out like that.

[Guthix]

It sparked some controversy about Ashley being a transsexual, which was proven false. What really started the controversy was not that she was based on a transsexual model, but rather some trolling that occurred on Bioware's website that, though I'm not informed on a few details, involved an important member of Bioware announcing some transsexual love scenes; however, as I previously said, this was proven as an elaborate troll.

To lighten up the mood, here are some images from Type-Moon's upcoming visual novel A Magician's Night. Seeing as the Aoko looks this delicious, I'm disappointed that it's not going to be an eroge.
It should be noted that this image is a promotional image, and A Magician's Night will not feature Arcueid, Saber, or Ryougi Shiki.
http://i.imgur.com/lWpxo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8y3ud.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VhDg1.jpg

want to draw like that

[tanis_lionheart]

So...after about 150 hours of KoA:R I tried to get back into Skyrim.

Doesn't look like that's happening anytime soon.
I've been spoiled with low loading times, great combat, easier to manager inventory, and a more atheistically pleasing graphic style.

>_>

Maybe I'll FINALLY beat 3D Dot Heroes and/or Dark Souls and/or DE:HR.
I've got WAY too many games on my 'to finish' list.

[jinzo64]

my mate at work keeps saying i should play ME2 and then ME3 but i'm not sure about it i've already got games i'd rather be playing at the moment.

[!Je$u$!]

g

[jinzo64]

i'm sorry but what do you mean by g?
also i wasn't aware we could do 1 letter responces.

[Guthix]

gg?

[!Je$u$!]

soz pc froze mid type dont know how it posted as well O_o

[!Je$u$!]

http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/01/24/darksiders-2-death-eternal

[jinzo64]

soz pc froze mid type dont know how it posted as well O_o

i see my laptop does that now and then end up with double posts it weird.

on the darksiders franchise i heard theres going to be 3 more
1 for famine
1 for pestulance
and one where there all in it.
there just rumours but it would make sense.

[!Je$u$!]

1 for pestulance

mmmmm pestilence :3
http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/pestilence_1024_768b.jpg

[jinzo64]

mmmmm pestilence :3
http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/pestilence_1024_768b.jpg

no not her, her brother pestulance.:D

[!Je$u$!]

no not her, her brother pestulance.:D

damn....lol pity

[glory of llama]

Either way I'm not going to try and get into a discussion about how EA is slowly ruining games, but this is probably the last game I'm getting of theirs. I can't complain about paying extra for DLC because the DLC is not even necessary to the experience, it is just there. I probably wouldn't have gotten it if it didn't come with collectors edition. Regardless of the countless bugs and such I'm still finding it enjoyable. I'll just remember not to bring it up next time seeing as its getting hate EVERYWHERE because of EA. I wish they'd never let themselves get bought out like that.

I'm not gonna lie, I paid exactly $0.00 for ALL of their DLC in ME1 and 2. Because I torrent that ****. Not because I had anything against it, really, but because you had to do it through their own system of points and crap, and I refuse to get locked into buying a set number of points which go over what I need for this one dlc I want. screw that. Even worse is doing the microsoft live crap for other games. Screw ALL of that. I paid for the game, and I'll pay for many more games you make, and probably any expansions too cause I'm a fool like that. But I'm not dancing to your DLC strings. I would've paid money for Fallout 3's Mothership Zeta expansion, like I did for all the other expansions (very cheaply, of course, in 2-packs on amazon), but they didn't offer it except through some retarded system that WOULDN'T EVEN FRICKIN WORK WHEN I TRIED TO DO IT. So screw them. Torrent.

edit: it occurs to me, I bought the collector's edition of ME2, as well. I think my 80$ more than compensated them.

[Guthix]

and thus piracy has a green flag

[glory of llama]

No it doesn't. I stole their flag.

[Guthix]

it was a metaphor -_-

[glory of llama]

rofl I know, guthix, I was taking your metaphorical flag and running away with it like a kleptomaniac (someone who steals compulsively) lol

Also, just played ME3's multiplayer, and it was pretty damn awesome. the entire cost of the game may be worth it just for the multiplayer. okay maybe not, but it's really fun :D

[Guthix]

god dam gritting my teeth waiting for monster girl 2 translation

[abyssion1337]

isn't the 66% translation done? I'm pretty sure it is.

[bloodlover1987]

now just gotta wait for the rest

[Guthix]

78%

[regnier]

78% ? omg omg omg *squeak*

[Backmask]

i see my laptop does that now and then end up with double posts it weird.

on the darksiders franchise i heard theres going to be 3 more
1 for famine
1 for pestulance
and one where there all in it.
there just rumours but it would make sense.

Famine and Pestilence aren't in Darksiders. They are replaced with Strife and Fury.

[ThePsychoGamer]

Finally got the plat for Neptunia MK2.


Anyways Journy looks awesome, I should be getting it later today.

[abyssion1337]

Famine and Pestilence aren't in Darksiders. They are replaced with Strife and Fury.

Pestilence wasn't one of the original 4 horsemen anyway, it was originally conquest.

[jinzo64]

Pestilence wasn't one of the original 4 horsemen anyway, it was originally conquest.

realy when did it change.
because i've only ever known the four horseman as
death
war
famine
Pestilence

[abyssion1337]

I'm not sure exactly when it first changed, but this is well documented. I mean the 4 hoursemen was an allegory from the bible and that included Conquest instead of pestilence, I guess pestilence makes it sound more supernatural. I don't know, but it's even in the wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4_Horsemen

[tanis_lionheart]

http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/News_And_Analysis/__Story_Inserts/graphics/__ENTERTAINMENT/CHARACTERS_MASCOTS/apocolypse-pony-200.jpg

Gonna FINALLY geat Vanquish...finally.

[jinzo64]

I'm not sure exactly when it first changed, but this is well documented. I mean the 4 hoursemen was an allegory from the bible and that included Conquest instead of pestilence, I guess pestilence makes it sound more supernatural. I don't know, but it's even in the wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4_Horsemen

thanks for that.
maybe they go together better.
you start with war which lead to pestilance to famine then ultimatly death.

[regnier]

i just finish mass effect 3 and the ending is very disappointing. the game is good but the last 10 minutes feel rushed. the game should be called troll effect 3

[abyssion1337]

thanks for that.
maybe they go together better.
you start with war which lead to pestilance to famine then ultimatly death.

NO! War doesn't lead to Pestilence. War is the act of fighting, Conquest is the really nasty stuff that comes afterwards, looting and plundering which leads to famine, all of these cause death, you need to think better.

[jinzo64]

NO! War doesn't lead to Pestilence. War is the act of fighting, Conquest is the really nasty stuff that comes afterwards, looting and plundering which leads to famine, all of these cause death, you need to think better.

sorry i didn't explain myself well.
i was considering the acts of looting,plundering as part of war.
i guess i didn't think my statement through very well.
death is aspect of war,pestilance and famine.

[bloodlover1987]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyhhs2qiI51r7bw9ro1_500.jpg

[jinzo64]

why did you crossout capcom.
is it because there spamming 2 of there franchise street fighter and resident evil.

[NodMan]

I kinda feel sorry for the Reapers and Cerberus in Mass Effect 3. My Vangaurd, never loses shields even on Hard mode... Maxed Biotic Charge with 25% to have no cooldown and Maxed Nova with Double Nova and 25% to not take my Barrier. It is kinda sad that I teleport around the battlefield taking no damage killing everything in a couple seconds, and my only weapon equipped is a Geth Plasma Shotgun with Barrel Extender V and Shredder Mod V.

Aside from the annoying consoletarded Controls on a PC game, Mass Effect 3 has a great storyline and almost good combat.

[jinzo64]

how long did it take you to basicaly become invincable?

[Haar]

Aside from the annoying consoletarded Controls on a PC game, Mass Effect 3 has a great storyline and almost good combat.

Auto-healing, Auto-aiming, Cover based shooting, drawn out flashy cut-scenes animations for finishing moves, or all of the above? (Yes, I'm serious, I have never played this game and I'm just a bit curious)

[ThePsychoGamer]

why did you crossout capcom.
is it because there spamming 2 of there franchise street fighter and resident evil.

Most likely it's about the on disk DLC for Street Fighter X Tekken. (Something made worse by the fact that they lied about it)

[glory of llama]

Auto-healing, Auto-aiming, Cover based shooting, drawn out flashy cut-scenes animations for finishing moves, or all of the above? (Yes, I'm serious, I have never played this game and I'm just a bit curious)

Yes, to some extent, yes, dear lord yes, in that order.

Also, similar to Nodman's experience, in the multiplayer (which is fun as hell), as a Soldier, I found the ultimate method to success lay in spamming the ever loving hell out of Concussive Shot. Like Nodman, I just use one weapon (an assault rifle), which lets powers recharge almost twice as fast, and the CS has a short cooldown to begin with, so I pretty much fire off CS more often than most of the sniper rifles can fire, and probably to greater effect, too.

I play the singleplayer on Insane. Still not all that hard lol (unless like an idiot you spend half an hour dying against these reapers, yelling about how you suspect they're respawning constantly... until finally you find out, yes, in fact they ARE constantly respawning cause you were supposed to be taking out this other thing to end the sequence why were you bothering with the little guys you stupid jerk? True story.)

[Backmask]

As some people might have heard, Guilty Crown's visual novel, titled Guilty Crown: Lost Christmas, has a demo as of now. It's pretty good and uses songs (Bios (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF3dxVJPKV4) starts = **** goes from amazing to HOLY **** THIS IS AMAZING) from the train-wreck that is the Guilty Crown anime. It should be noted that it is written by the same guy who wrote Demonbane, and if you have played Demonbane, youshould notice the similarities (Badass adult, loli-love interest, and a sexy, blonde man(?) that does whatever the **** he (she ?) wants). Personally, I enjoyed it. The thing I enjoyed the most was the Christmas theme such as the characters being named Scrooge, Carol, Present, Past, and Yet to Come.
A brief summary for those not informed: Guilty Crown: Lost Christmas takes place during the Lost Christmas event that occurred ten years prior to Guilty Crown. The main character, Scrooge, escapes from some facility with a small girl, Carol, and are constantly on the run from the military. Scrooge has a special ability that allows him to combat his and Carol's pursuers. Scrooge can make people contract a more powerful and swifter variant of the Apocalypse Virus via hand contact. Whether or not he has control of this power and the details of it are unclear to me. Three individuals are chasing after him and Carol along with the military. These individuals are Present, Past, and Yet to Come; however, Present is the only one that has been shown. Past and Yet to Come are silhouettes and are apparently identical-twins. Some screenshots of it.
http://i.imgur.com/5hOqx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UJ3yS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nUbpR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/b0DOo.jpg
Who wants to be a bro and translate?

[jinzo64]

that looks realy cool.
i'd like to translate it for youbut don't know how to sorry about that.

on other news game and gamestation have had a falling out with a couple of the big game companies to my knowledge it's only ea and capcom so at the moment game and gamestation have been blocked from selling ME3 and StreetfighterXTekken

[NodMan]

Mass Effect 3, has the worst video game ending I've ever played to...


how long did it take you to basicaly become invincable?

I started at LV30, so I basically never fell below half Barrier. However at LV45 I was able to walk into a room full of Brutes and Banshees, but never get hit.


Auto-healing, Auto-aiming, Cover based shooting, drawn out flashy cut-scenes animations for finishing moves, or all of the above? (Yes, I'm serious, I have never played this game and I'm just a bit curious)

You heal in cover or without damage taken. The Cover option is just dumb because on the PC I have a keyboard but your action button (Run/Use/Dodge/etc.) are all bound to one button. It is annoying as hell.

[jinzo64]

yes that would be annoying.
actually thats rather odd to have so many commands to 1 button especialy since theres so many buttons on a p.c to use for different commands.
it's not like console gaming where there limited to 14 buttons(ps3/360) or 12 wii classic pad

[LOLWTFBBQ]

anyone check out GFACE yet? interface is pretty clean, and if you get it you automatically reserve your name for WARFACE

http://vividgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/gface.png
http://geeksweat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Warface-Title-600x336.jpg

hard to beat a free online FPS developed by Crytek on their CryEngine 3

[Guthix]

internet too ****y to even think of multiplayer

[jinzo64]

my internet isn't very god for online multiplayer gaming either.

[glory of llama]

I'm halfway between decent and ****ty internet. I get about 100 ms ping on average, assuming the internet is actually working at any given time, and it likes to drop out randomly, especially right when I'm about to make a sweet surprise kill on multiple people. Murphy's Law of the internet.

[NodMan]

WarFace, looks smexy but only time will tell in the Cash Shop world of Free to Play. Blacklight Retribution looked awesome but the Perfect World Cash Shop, made/makes it horribad.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2ynk-dz6RQ

So on the subject of Mass Effect 3...

I don't even know how they'll accomplish Mass Effect 4, with the endings...

*****SPOILERS WITHIN DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T BEATEN THE GAME*****
If you destroy the Reapers, you destroy all the Mass Relays in the Milky Way. So unless they magically come up with instant travel the FTL drives on the ships would still put you out months from one star to the next.

If you control the Reapers (this is the only hope for Mass Effect 4) Commander Shepard is still in there, as part of the control program for the Reapers. So maybe he/she snaps and goes all kill all Organic life again who knows. Again the Mass Relays go boom.

If you Synthesize all life the galaxy (this makes Mass Effect 4 completely unlikely), everyone gets merged Organics and Synthetics. This makes for one giant Galaxy wide hippy peace fest. Again the Mass Relays go boom.
*****SPOILERS WITHIN DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T BEATEN THE GAME*****

So yah, unless Mass Effect 4 takes place thousands if not millions of years in the future I doubt it will be any good with the endings draw from Mass Effect 3.

If you have beaten the game and want a different ending.

Article about bad ending (http://kotaku.com/5892335/so-theres-a-fan-campaign-to-change-the-ending-of-mass-effect-3?utm_campaign=socialflow_kotaku_facebook&utm_source=kotaku_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)

BioWare Forums to complain about bad ending (http://social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989)

[regnier]

the only reason i dont play online is because it full of retarded kids who dont play fair and always scream like an idiot.

[Haar]

the only reason i dont play online is because it full of retarded kids who dont play fair and always scream like an idiot.

Aren't there private servers for some games that you can only get into if you're invited by someone running it?

[NodMan]

Another reason you ladies should quit consoles and come to the PC side.

[Backmask]

the only reason i dont play online is because it full of retarded kids who dont play fair and always scream like an idiot.

Welcome to online gaming.

[regnier]

im a pc and console player and for the the invite in private server you need to know someone who have it and i dont have friend so it might be hard. to only game i will play online is diablo 3 if it free

[Haar]

Another reason you ladies should quit consoles and come to the PC side.

Too poor to get a good gaming PC. Though at the very least, the problem with Playstation isn't a bunch of little kids, rather, it's a bunch of wiggers, chavs, and griefers. Makes things interesting, to a certain extent, but it makes me wish my PC could smoothly run games made after the year 2004.

[Backmask]

Another reason you ladies should quit consoles and come to the PC side.

I only use PCs for my chinese porn-games.

[thedarkmessenger]

Another reason you ladies should quit consoles and come to the PC side.

Call me crazy, but on my tight finances, I'd rather spend $300 on a console than $2000 on a PC.

[bloodlover1987]

im with back on that

[glory of llama]

Another reason you ladies should quit consoles and come to the PC side.

Now I love both your avatar AND your stance against consoles!

[Haar]

Now I love both your avatar AND your stance against consoles!

Typical Console User

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHXBqo6RgN4
Yes, I'm aware of the hypocrisy of that statement.

Seriously though, isn't he rich enough to afford a computer?

[Kaiju]

I concur with Back, my Comp is only good for Porn, internet, flash games, and VN's.

[NodMan]

A new console (when it first launches) is what? $500ish? After a while they go down to the $200-$300 range. Big ass TV and couch/lazyboy another $500-$700 Throw all the games, controllers, etc. in there that is another $200-$300. That is around $1,500 more or less total.

Were as a good computer, one that will last you from the rise of one console to the dawn of another is around $1,000-$1,200 (I'm not talking about super top of the line) if you have someone build it for you and around $650-$900 if you build it yourself and find the best parts deals online. Good 120Mhz monitor, gaming keyboard/mouse, PC desk, PC chair, and a decent headset with mic is around $600-$800 more. So that is around $2,250 more or less total (depending on the route that is have someone build it for you).

So yes a PC is more, but considering all the other things you get with PCs and PC gaming it isn't all that much more to have to pay for. Again if I have to list ALL the faults with consoletarded gaming I will. Talking just hardware and lag issues inherent in console games.

[Haar]

A new console (when it first launches) is what? $500ish? After a while they go down to the $200-$300 range. Big ass TV and couch/lazyboy another $500-$700 Throw all the games, controllers, etc. in there that is another $200-$300. That is around $1,500 more or less total.

Were as a good computer, one that will last you from the rise of one console to the dawn of another is around $1,000-$1,200 (I'm not talking about super top of the line) if you have someone build it for you and around $650-$900 if you build it yourself and find the best parts deals online. Good 120Mhz monitor, gaming keyboard/mouse, PC desk, PC chair, and a decent headset with mic is around $600-$800 more. So that is around $2,250 more or less total (depending on the route that is have someone build it for you).

So yes a PC is more, but considering all the other things you get with PCs and PC gaming it isn't all that much more to have to pay for. Again if I have to list ALL the faults with consoletarded gaming I will. Talking just hardware and lag issues inherent in console games.

The average console gamer is too lazy to read that, let alone acknowledge your facts.

Anyway, I still have 2 minor issues:

1. I'm pretty sure I can't convince my family members to invest in a new computer, regardless of how many times I tell them the cold, hard facts.

Of course, I guess there's nothing stopping me from saving up my own money for this...

2. The types of games I usually play are console exclusives, sadly.

Though I suppose that I can just keep a console on the side for those sorts of things and just buy a gaming PC, already.

[bloodlover1987]

i play both so i dont give a **** either way.. im a gamer i play everything

[jinzo64]

The average console gamer is too lazy to read that, let alone acknowledge your facts.

thats harsh i read the whole i guess that means i'm not average.

p.c gaming is good if you want online multi player but is it realy an good at of line multi player?

also p.c gaming doesn't realy go down in price does it?

but you can now pick up a wii for around 85 quid and if all you want it for is gaming then it's fine.

the ps3 and 360 have become more like low end gaming p.cs with low end internet functions but the main reason i bought a ps3 was for the games and built in blu-ray player.
i can't play the arland games or soul ressureccion on a p.c

[LOLWTFBBQ]

bull**** I bought my computer and monitor for $650 and I can max out Crysis 2 in DX11

let me show you the 1 reason why PC gaming will always be superior: PIRATING

yes, you can torrent a 360 game and burn it to disk, but it is pretty sketchy.

of course this is the #1 reason developers are ending their PC development (funny cuz all games are made on computers) but hey, I say test out the game, then if you like it, buy it for the multiplayer

[glory of llama]

Thing about consoles vs PC is.... I don't like playing first person shooters with a console controller. I want my mouse and keyboard. the freedom to whip my field of view around as fast as I set my dpi, I want all the keyboards buttons, memorized by my finger muscles so well, and the ability to communicate with that keyboard too, instead of adding to noise pollution with talking (e.g., if people are around, you feel kind of silly yelling "WTF WERE YOU THINKING, TOSS A SMOKE FIRST AND THEN RUSH IN!" but I can type it out pretty fast (and years of no mic taught me to type fast while running and gunning lol, replacing Ws with uu lol)). ... ironically, mass effect 3 isn't capable of keyboard communication.

Plus, I don't like the idea of console exclusivity of games - I don't want to have to buy all the consoles out there for each new game I might want to play. With a PC, the most I have to worry about right now is Origin being spyware or whether to buy a game in-store or download through steam (the answer with crap internet is: in-store). Sure most big games are made for each, but I don't really want to have to commit to choosing just one console either, because I'll miss out on some other game not as universal. And if I did own all the consoles, that's a lot of freaking electronics sitting around, taking up space, tempting family to borrow/take...

But I totally agree with the console side of things, too- when the gamecube came out, if I didn't already have a PC I'd have looked to the gamecube as pretty much the only thing I'd ever need. That little cube was awesome. Relatively cheap, and a lot of great games. If I'd had just that console and maybe a really cheap work-only style PC or laptop, when the 360 and PS3 and Wii came out, I would've looked to them as being a much more cost-effective method.

But because my family has always been about PCs, my PC has always been routinely upgraded with hand-me-downs from my dad and brother who update every so often. So my own out-of-pocket expenses have been relatively minor, and because I already have a great system on hand, they'll likely remain so for the foreseeable future, making PC the clear choice. The only upgrades I need to worry about is when games start requiring even more memory, which will likely mean I'll need to get a new motherboard, which would probably mean a new cpu as well just to keep current, and I think all my hard drives are sata now, but if not my old hard drives probably won't even have a place to plug into anymore.... but anyway. That likely won't happen for a long time though. I feel like things have hit a plateau recently.

[NodMan]

Alrighty then, guess I gotta type...

Consoles are extremely underpowered both in the aspects of graphics and the latency issues you will face while playing one. Your TV has anywhere from 24-80ms (milliseconds) response time and 40-60 true Hertz refresh rate. Which basically means right away just because you are playing on a TV you get .2-.7 seconds lag response time. Most console games have settings to "offset" TV refresh rates, it is a sad try to basically get ahead of the lag you face. You will also never go above 60 Frames Per Second with images displayed on your TV. Which also causes more lag just from image build up and motion blur effects. On top of that whichever game engine is being used for your game is using at best Direct X 9, which means your graphics are boned from the start. The graphics issue can never go above mediocre because consoles just cannot handle great graphics due to their limitations in hardware. Your controller input is also causing your commands to be lagged while you try to input them, anywhere from .1-.25ms. As well as the controller just being a horribad input device. Stack on top of all this the fact that almost all consoles have to be hooked up to the internet wirelessly this again adds .7-.3ms of lag. So basically all your commands and screen displays from console gaming have about half to beyond a full second of lag behind them. Which doesn't sound like much but that is the difference between blocking or dieing as well as a headshot or a death by knifing. Consoles have between 2.4Ghz-3.2 GHz processors which is why they need motion blur, which is a means of tricking the eyes to think there is more FPS and less lag on the screen than really is there. It is a neat trick, movies use it but again it means they lack hardware to display true images. The reading devices on XBoxs are just sad (PS3 and Wii not so much). They have built in "Dead" counters so you don't lose a disk to faulty hardware. Most know this as the Red Ring of Death. Sound (except for PS3) can never be full digital surround sound on consoles either, they lack the hardware and sound drivers needed for it. The graphics cards on consoles aren't meant for post processing of 3D images which means a need for motion blur to make the sequence of images shown seem streamlined. The Harddrives of consoles only read around 2.5 Megabytes a second. The RAM they have to load (all data is loaded from Harddrives to RAM for easier reading at higher speeds) with is around 256-512MB to work with. You cannot MOD or Edit consoles games, some you can kinda but its really lame and choppy. Data can only be transfer from disk or internet to hard drive and much slower speeds. Console Harddrives only read around 5,400 RPMs.

Now a computer, lets start with screens. Normal LCDs have 2-10ms response time and a 60Mhz refresh rate, which means the picture you see is delayed by .02-.1 of a second and has a maximum (regardless of hardware) FPS of 60, which is fine for most people. Now CRTs and 120Mhz LCDs have around the same response time of 2-10ms but allow for a maximum of 120 FPS to be displayed on the screen which allows for greater reach of graphics and overall better performance due to the more frames on the screen before the refresh every second. There is no "offset" for lag due to display devices or limitations of maximum frames per second that are going to impair performance. Most computer monitors aren't true High Definition but they are close. Some rival great TV displays without the lag inherent in the TVs. Computer games can use anything graphics wise for their game engines in the Direct X category (granted a slow PC wouldn't want to use anything above DX9) to display more vivid and crisp graphics. Direct X 11 is currently the best there is for beauty in your games and displays. The keyboard mouse input is great of accuracy but not always comfort. Wired USB normal keyboards/mouses have a .09-.13ms delay in inputs (.009-.013 of a second). Gaming USB keyboards/mouses have .07-.1ms delays (.007-.01 of a second). On top of that we have over 100 buttons to bind to keys, as well as macros that can make one key press multiple. The lag from input to display on a computer is only around 3-11ms of lag (.03-.11 of a second). The graphics cards on most computers are meant for post processing of 3D images which means a smoother image display without motion blur. As well as 700-1,500 Mhz of just processing power devoted to rendering images (better and quicker image quality). Most PC games can and allow for full dynamic range digital surround sound, which makes all the sound effects amazing. A lot of PC games are loaded directly to the harddrive of computers, so reading and loading them is done on the order of 4 Megabytes per second all the way up to 50 Megabytes a second (Solid State Drives). Computers have anywhere between 1GB-100GB (maximum for Windows 7) of Ram, which means you can load all that data to RAM for almost instant use and loading. As well as most computers use DDR2+ RAM which is a quicker read speed. PC games (aside from those you aren't meant to, even though you still can) can be modded and edited in all sorts of ways allowing for one game to become literally thousands (Half Life 1 engine has about 1,500 mods). Some of those become their own game and even draw sequels (Natural Selection). The transfer of data can be done multiple ways on a PC as well, from internet download to BluRay read as well as USB3 transfer. Computer Harddrives read anywhere from 5,400 RPMs to beyond 40,000 RPMs.

That is basically all the data I want to list, even though there is a ton more that make consoles seem like their rocks trying to compete with lightsabers. So enjoy the read, I didn't enjoy typing that again...


thats harsh i read the whole i guess that means i'm not average.

p.c gaming is good if you want online multi player but is it realy an good at of line multi player?

also p.c gaming doesn't realy go down in price does it?

but you can now pick up a wii for around 85 quid and if all you want it for is gaming then it's fine.

the ps3 and 360 have become more like low end gaming p.cs with low end internet functions but the main reason i bought a ps3 was for the games and built in blu-ray player.
i can't play the arland games or soul ressureccion on a p.c

Seems someone has never heard of Steam Holiday sales. You can get a $50 game for $2.

[Guthix]

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[Haar]

thats harsh i read the whole i guess that means i'm not average.

When taken into context, it's not really all that harsh. Remember my previous post? (http://www.amvhell.com/showthread.php?4283-The-Video-Games-Thread&p=391581#post391581)

[jinzo64]

you posted a video that i didn't watch do to the lack of time as i had to go to work.

no i havn't heard of the steam holiday sales.

but i personaly prefer console gaming.

[glory of llama]

Lol I like that comparison, guthix!

[ThePsychoGamer]

Yakuza Dead Souls comes out Today.

Can't wait for see more of Shun (I hope that that franchise will move away from Kiryu and stat focusing one this character.)

Ryuji, I wonder how side quests will for him, the typical Yakuza format really would feel out of character for him

Majima, Finally we get to play as him (though it's a shame it's in a TPS spin off, not in the format of the main games. (Though I believe the original script for Yakluza 4 had Majima as the fourth playable character, but they changed it for marketing.)

I hope Kiryu's pat isn't as forced as it was in 4.

Also New trailer for the best game coming out in March


http://youtu.be/0KNKzZxrHTo

[NodMan]

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http://h7.abload.de/img/crysis_2_pc_xbox_360_vtuof.jpg
http://www6.incrysis.com/screenshots/crysis_pc_dx10_high_vs_console.png
http://gamingbolt.com/wp-content/gallery/crysis-console-vs-pc-comparison-which-version-looks-better/2.jpg
http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/original/2009/10/Risen_PC_vs._Xbox_360_3.jpg
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/original/2008/08/GTA_4_PC_versus_Konsole_01.jpg
http://www.blogphotovideo.com/images/FIFA11console-vs-pc.jpg
http://www.blogphotovideo.com/images/FIFA11console-vs-pc2.jpg

I could go on and on...

[bloodlover1987]

it could be that i dont give 2 ****s about graphics but i dont see that big of a difference

[MADEVIL]

Well that is a general answer that most say when its PC vs Console, its all about the amout of realism one wants. The war is always different when its 360 vs PS3

[regnier]

pc have better shooter control, rts, mmo, game can be mod, faster loading, alot more game choice and some other stuff

[NodMan]

Those are just graphics. That doesn't even begin to touch on the all the Motion Blur that consoles have to use to make it look close to 30 FPS. Anything below 30 FPS and the brain sees it as a wave or a refresh load (like old TVs or when an old monitor is filmed by video camera, that wake or wave). Motion Blur basically adds haze and counter waves to make it look 30 FPS+. It is a really ****ty way to make crap look like gold plated crap. Crap is crap, don't add **** on top of it to make it look better.

You can also see how the post processor rending between consoles and PCs looks different. Because consoles do not have the raw power to render all objects at once. If you have ever moved extremely fast in a console game and noticed that what you are going towards seems to change both in shape and graphic quality, it is because of the consoles lack of rendering power. It basically loads a crappy version of that graphic from far away, then changes gradually over time as you get closer to it. Depending on your settings on a PC you can have it load all that kind of stuff instantly, so the transition is seamless.

[glory of llama]

it could be that i dont give 2 ****s about graphics but i dont see that big of a difference

in the pics there: the PC pics show far more effects going on, ground has more varied detail, bushes and trees have more realistic shadows , the glass is more realistic, the brick wall looks less like mario more like an actual brick wall, the weapon's acog sights show the visual distortion that you'd actually be likely to see from that angle, all corners are smoother, the shotgun looks weird but the assault rifle has shiny bits and is smooth, and that anti-air vehicle in the console pic looks like it came from C&C Renegade it's so blocky, while the PC version looks much better.

Really though what sells me on those comparisons are the glass and the effects like the water in the first, the tree shadow and the rocks in the second, and the smoky, graininess of the third pic.

[NodMan]

http://www.mycrysis.com/sites/default/files/gallery/image/dx11_tessellation2_on.jpg
http://www.mycrysis.com/sites/default/files/gallery/image/dx11_tessellation2_off.jpg
http://h8.abload.de/img/cryengine_3_screenshot4070.jpg

What would you rather play?

[tanis_lionheart]

I'd rather play the system with games like Demon's Souls, Disgaea, and Persona.
;)

[LOLWTFBBQ]

you must also enjoy slashing your wrists.

anyway, Graphics give the realism, something I crave more than anything in a game. currently CryEngine 3 supports 3 different kinds of tesselation, (which generally means it makes a flat surface POP out at you like say a stone wall would)

[glory of llama]

Wow, it is crazy hard to really see the tessellation difference up there... if you were like me and were trying to figure out what the difference is, it's the edges of the windows - tessellation seems to have made the edges all bumpy instead of a flat plane with a wall-sized picture of a wall on it. Though that sounds impressive, it took me a solid minute of staring at the two before I noticed it.

[LOLWTFBBQ]

that actually shows very minor tessellation, watch this: http://nvidia.fullviewmedia.com/gdc2012/03-crytek.html to see when Tessellation is maxed out

[tanis_lionheart]

I play video games for FUN not to see more realistic crotch sweat on the asses of some terrorists I'm shooting up.

[thedarkmessenger]

This thread has taught me a lot. It's taught me that PC gamers are assholes :|

[bloodlover1987]

you didn't know that already ? so are the folks who say the console is better its just stupid to argue over it ppl like what they like

[thedarkmessenger]

nope. I thought they were like any other gamer. Guess I was wrong :|

[bloodlover1987]

them and MLG gamers

[Haar]

This thread has taught me a lot. It's taught me that PC gamers are assholes :|

>implying PS3/360 owners don't treat Wii users the same way

[thedarkmessenger]

I wouldn't know much about MLG gamers. I'm not that interested in MLG. Then again I don't find it all that exciting watching someone else play games, usually.


>implying PS3/360 owners don't treat Wii users the same way

I own a ps3 and I don't treat wii users like dirt O_o. Then again I do own a wii as well....

[Backmask]

Took him long enough to figure that out.



>implying PS3/360 owners don't treat Wii users the same way

But the Wii is ****. The owners only justify their ****ty console by bringing up popularity despite the fact that the Wii has, like, two good games. Besides, at least PS3/360 owners don't jump into conversations randomly shouting about how everybody is inferior.

[thedarkmessenger]

Took him long enough to figure that out.

indeed :|

[Haar]

I own a ps3 and I don't treat wii users like dirt O_o. Then again I do own a wii as well....
Granted, but a fair amount of people do. I've seen plenty of hilarious threads on various sites about the Wii not being a "real" console

[bloodlover1987]

that they do but either way we know which sold the most

[thedarkmessenger]

Granted, but a fair amount of people do. I've seen plenty of hilarious threads on various sites about the Wii not being a "real" console

It plays real video games. As far as I'm concerned, that makes it a real console :P

[Haar]

But the Wii is ****. The owners only justify their ****ty console by bringing up popularity despite the fact that the Wii has, like, two good games.
I'd go so far as to say that the Wii has three good games, but I see your point, nonetheless.


Besides, at least PS3/360 owners don't jump into conversations randomly shouting about how everybody is inferior

Do those people that troll threads related to the opposing console not count?

[thedarkmessenger]

....when did Backmask say that? O_O

*edit* I guess he edited his earlier post xP

[Backmask]

that they do but either way we know which sold the most

But sells don't mean piss.
Do you remember The Iron Giant? You know, the movie that practically shaped our childhoods. Bombed harder than a Muslim.
Do you remember James Cameron's Avatar? You know, the movie that cared only for visuals and plagiarized everything else, which made watching it the dullest experience ever. Made more money than any professional football player could hope to make.
Dare I bring up anime bluray sales?



Do those people that troll threads related to the opposing console not count?

Umm... I'm gonna say no just for the sake of saying no.

[Haar]

....when did Backmask say that? O_O



Here (http://www.amvhell.com/showthread.php?4283-The-Video-Games-Thread&p=392156#post392156)

[bloodlover1987]

hes magic like that

[thedarkmessenger]

But sells don't mean piss.
Do you remember Iron Man? You know, the movie that practically shaped our childhoods. Bombed harder than a Muslim.
Do you remember James Cameron's Avatar? You know, the movie that cared only for visuals and plagiarized everything else, which made watching it the dullest experience ever. Made more money than any professional football player could hope to make.
Dare I bring up anime bluray sales?
I actually agree with this. No matter what a salesman says, millions of people CAN be wrong

[abyssion1337]

http://i.imgur.com/ymUsn.gif

[Backmask]

By the way, I meant to say The Iron Giant, not Iron Man. **** Iron Man.

[bloodlover1987]

damn iron giant was an awesome movie ..

[tanis_lionheart]

The Wii has many good games.
Though I do prefer my PS3.

Well, minus this last year...which was pretty dead.

[Haar]

B
Umm... I'm gonna say no just for the sake of saying no.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/348/8/6/i_ain__t_even_mad_by_terribleprincess-d34w0sy.jpg

Forgive me for the late response. It took me a while to notice that edit

[Haar]

The Wii has many good games.

Tatsunoko VS Capcom, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, and one other game that I'm assured that only I like, so I won't even bother mentioning it. Are you counting some Wiiware games I don't know about?

[thedarkmessenger]

Haar, you're forgetting Okami, No More Hereos, and several other games that I don't remember off the top of my head.

[bloodlover1987]

damnit man cant forget super smash bros and skyward sword .... punchout . among other things

[Backmask]

Skyward Sword was bad.

[thedarkmessenger]

I haven't played skyward sword yet, so I have no opinion on it ATM.

[Haar]

Okami was OK, never finished it, but wasn't that a port anyway?

Haven't played No More Heroes yet, but it looks interesting, so I might try it out. (or perhaps the PS3 Port)

OK, I did forget Brawl, though I hadn't played it in a while. I'd complain about the ridiculous unlocking methods being a waste of my valuable time, but that would be implying I had valuable time.

Enjoyed Punchout, though that's not to say it didn't get a bit repetitive at times.

Haven't played Skyward Sword, but I don't feel like having to buy an extra attachment just to play what I'm assuming will be one game that I want to play that uses it.

[bloodlover1987]

never got to play no more heros . i need to pick it up one day

[Backmask]

Haven't played No More Heroes yet, but it looks interesting, so I might try it out. (or perhaps the PS3 Port)

You'd probably like it. After all, the second No More Heroes does have a Gurren Lagann reference.

[thedarkmessenger]

It's a great game if you don't mind the humor....or if you actually like that kind of humor :P

[bloodlover1987]

so back.. do you know if monster girl quest part 2 is the last or are they planing a few more ?

[thedarkmessenger]

^I heard there's gonna be 3

[Backmask]

so back.. do you know if monster girl quest part 2 is the last or are they planing a few more ?

There's a third. If I'm not mistaken, it is going to be a four part series, but I haven't seen much citation on the whole "four part series" thing.

[tanis_lionheart]

There's some lesser known games on the Wii such as "Deadly Creatures" & "Klonoa", for a start.

[Backmask]

There's some lesser known games on the Wii such as "Deadly Creatures" & "Klonoa", for a start.

I remember Klonoa. Constantly played a demo of it on my Playstation because I was to poor to afford the game. Didn't know it had a Wii release.

[Haar]

You'd probably like it. After all, the second No More Heroes does have a Gurren Lagann reference.
I could say a lot about that and how that may or may not be true, but I'll let /m/ speak for me. (http://archive.foolz.us/m/thread/4409200/) (awaiting some sort of backfiring)


It's a great game if you don't mind the humor....or if you actually like that kind of humor :P
I love all sorts of sick humor. (http://www.amvhell.com/showthread.php?6226-AMV-avi-2-quot-A-AMV-Film-quot-%28Announcement%29&p=310267#post310267) (of course, at this point, I've disowned most of the jokes I made in that video on the grounds of not being funny.)


There's some lesser known games on the Wii such as "Deadly Creatures" & "Klonoa", for a start.

I'll be sure to Google those eventually.

[bloodlover1987]

lol i remember Deadly Creatures i fooled around with it

[Backmask]

I could say a lot about that and how that may or may not be true, but I'll let /m/ speak for me. (http://archive.foolz.us/m/thread/4409200/) (awaiting some sort of backfiring).

Huh. I always thought you were a Gurren Lagann fan. OH WELL, at least I found a fellow /m/an.

[Haar]

Huh. I always thought you were a Gurren Lagann fan. OH WELL, at least I found a fellow /m/an.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I think by now, I've proved several times over (www.amvhell.com/showthread.php?25745-Spiral-Crusader) that I thoroughly enjoyed Gurren Lagann, I just won't necessarily play a game due to it having a reference to it. That makes as much sense as watching an anime just because it has lots of tits flopping around everywhere. (which, come to think of it, is sort of a bad comparison in my case, but you know what I mean.)

[tanis_lionheart]

I remember Klonoa. Constantly played a demo of it on my Playstation because I was to poor to afford the game. Didn't know it had a Wii release.
It's a pretty good remake.

Updated graphics, music, and a few added levels and whatnot.

It's not as good as say...Klonoa 2...but it's a damn fine game that I'm proud to have in my Wii Collection.

[jinzo64]

i didn't like no more heroes or no more heroes 2 i didn't realy like the controls on the wii even the with the classic controls.

i also couldn't get in to klonoa it is good a game i just i didn't enjoy playing it.

[ThePsychoGamer]

Yakuza Dead Souls and Tales of Graces F are out now, sadly I can only afford one now. Gonna have to wait on Graces.

[jinzo64]

i'm waiting for tales of graces to come in the post.
i'm importing it from america

[tanis_lionheart]

I've never been able to get into the Tales series for some reason.

[jinzo64]

erm to be honest it took me 3 plays of symphonia to get into the tales franchise.
now i own tales of symphina,symphonia dawn of the new world,tales of the abyss, tales of the world radient mythology and now i'm looking forward to tales of graces.

[Backmask]

Tales of Symphonia was the only Tales game that I sat down and played all the way through. Everything else got dropped.

[Arock]

syphonia was the only one i played cause i got it for like $7 and turned out to be an awesome deal

[jinzo64]

i've dropped radiant mythology the controls are clunky and make battle clumsy and awkward.

but i like the other ones i've played i've liked so far.

but the only one i've finished is tales of symphonia.

[abyssion1337]

I've played through most of the tales games, Symphonia is still my favorite, though I haven't actually finished Vesperia yet. Symphonia was also the only one to get a sequel, but I think it was clumsily handled.

[jinzo64]

i havn't played vesperia as it's exclusive to the 360.

yes the sequal to symphonia is clumsley done it's no where near as good as the origional.
but still fun non the less

[glory of llama]

I'd love to get into other rpgs like tales and others, but I can't even finish any final fantasy except 7. I loved CT and CC, but otherwise I've started ff8, 9, 10, and 12 many times and still haven't completed any of them. I gear adding yet more rpgs to my never-finished list...

Damn it's not just those console rpgs either... can't bring myself to finish dragon age 1, I only just recently finished fallout 3, never fgot far in Fable 2, never saw Hell difficulty in Diablo 2, haven't finished skyrim yet. I think I beat titan quest... maybe?

Geez, just about the only rpgs I've beaten have been baldurs gate 2, fables 1 and 3, CC, CT, iwd2, ff7, and fallout 3.

Guess I'm just an FPS person through and through. Been playing CS:S since it came out. I failed out of college for that game. Well, WoW helped.

[jinzo64]

the only rpgs i've finished are dragonquest 10 and tales of symphonia.

[tanis_lionheart]

I love me some JRPGs, like the MegaTen series, but Tales just felt 'boring' anytime I played 'em.

[jinzo64]

i like persona 3 portable i'll finish it one day.

[ThePsychoGamer]

I've played through most of the tales games, Symphonia is still my favorite, though I haven't actually finished Vesperia yet. Symphonia was also the only one to get a sequel, but I think it was clumsily handled.

Actually it's the second, Tales of Destiny also had a sequel on the PS2, but sadly that one never made it to the west.

[jinzo64]

the same happened to symphonia it was ported to the ps2 but it never made it outside of japan

[ThePsychoGamer]

Thats a bit different, Tales of Symphonia had a version of of the game that made it overseas. Neither of the two versions of Destiny 2 made it over though.

[jinzo64]

well i think the ps2 port came a year after the gamecube launch.

[MADEVIL]

On a funny video game side note, dating gone wrong
http://kotaku.com/5893089/shooting-15+year+old-modern-warfare-players-is-fine-just-dont-sleep-with-them

[Haar]

On a funny video game side note, dating gone wrong
http://kotaku.com/5893089/shooting-15+year+old-modern-warfare-players-is-fine-just-dont-sleep-with-them

Words can't even...

[glory of llama]

Why the hell couldn't I get any like that when I was 15... oh, right, cause I play on the PC... DAMNIT (when I was 15, xbox hadn't even been released yet.)

[Haar]

Why the hell couldn't I get any like that when I was 15... oh, right, cause I play on the PC... DAMNIT (when I was 15, xbox hadn't even been released yet.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYG_lP1OAhA

[glory of llama]

that guy looks/sounds like the vi sitter hari venten spelar lite dota guy's younger douchy brother

[tanis_lionheart]

Hahaha...so sick, but so funny.

[HeyHeyHeyStayOuttaMyShed]

Anyone here ever play Phoenix Wright? ♥ Edgeworth is boss.

[abyssion1337]

wait till you get to the 5th game, in the 5th game you play exclusively as Edgeworth

[Backmask]

So, new Gundam game. It's sounding pretty delicious.
http://andriasang.com/con0ac/gundam_battle_screens/

[Arock]

damn that looks awesome back, too bad i dont have a ps3

[LOLWTFBBQ]

hehe, looks like Saeko and Rei from HOTD will be playable costumes in Lollipop Chainsaw

[simpleton216]

Welp, wargame is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN04id0ruj0

[regnier]

hehe, looks like Saeko and Rei from HOTD will be playable costumes in Lollipop Chainsaw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvvkYUaWvoE
lol they just dont look like the original

[jinzo64]

what i would realy like is a bleach the soul ressereccion 2.

i downloaded osu and it's harder than i thought it would be.
but i has made me want to buy a usb mouse hoplfully it'll work better than the touch pad.
been thinking about focusing on making them well easy ones.
try and make them with 1-2 stars for difficulty

[blades34AK]

Soul Ressereccion 2 sounds good but next week Operation Raccoon City Nemesis Mode.

[jinzo64]

is it true that operation raccoon city plays alot like a rainbow six game.

[tanis_lionheart]

Well that killed my interest, thanks Jinzo.

[Haar]

So... any of you consolebros play Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions or Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones?

I honestly prefer the latter, due to certain gameplay elements present in it. That's not to say I didn't like the former, I just thought that the aiming and weapon systems were a bit unnecessarily complex. That, and the fact that you had to pay skill points to learn how to use items like Phoenix Feathers and the better potions, therefore leading those who didn't have enough resources to focus on some form of turtling in order to survive missions without casualties, which, come to think of it, was pretty difficult in assault missions and rescue missions.

At the same time, however, I will admit that FE: SS was a bit too easy for a Fire Emblem game, in the sense that you were given grinding opportunities, which usually aren't present in other games of the series, so you could just do a few extra missions for gold and experience, thus taking out all of the danger from the game. Of course, to be fair, you could do something similar in a lot of other games in this series through the use of the arena.




tl;dr version

One's chess for masochists, while the other is chess for manipulative deviants.

[tanis_lionheart]

I probably enjoyed FFT:WotL a bit too much because of nostalgia.
I played the original (it was my 2nd or 3rd SRPG) on the PS1 RIGHT after it I played "Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together" so I've always understood why some folks called a 'TO Clone'.

For me I actually prefer the Disgaea series.
Sure, the tone is less serious, but damn if the games aren't fun!

[Haar]

I've never played Disgaea, but I've been meaning to check it out.

[tanis_lionheart]

I've never played Disgaea, but I've been meaning to check it out.
Wow...really...REALLY?
Well, damn, you probably should.

The first one has been released on the PS2, DS, PSP, and I THINK they may have released it for some phone.


The series is pretty damn good.
Well, minus D3...which was kind of a let down.

[Haar]

Wow...really...REALLY?
Well, damn, you probably should.

Yes, really. The art-style seemed a bit weird to me, due to me being so used to the somewhat serious tone/style of the Fire Emblem series. That's not to say that I completely dismissed it over the art style, because that would be silly. Rather, it just sort of put me off from the franchise a bit.

In other news, there's an anime for that. (http://myanimelist.net/anime/860/Makai_Senki_Disgaea)

And yet there's still no new Fire Emblem anime...

[tanis_lionheart]

The games really never take themselves seriously, even the traditional 'mid boss' is nicked named...well, Mid Boss, by the main male.
In the first game the main male also 'loses his powers' when big boobed girls come around him.

It's one of the reasons why I enjoy the series...that humor.

The anime is pretty good, it sums up the first game rather well.

[Haar]

Seems interesting enough. I'll be sure to check it out eventually.

On a different note, I've started playing Metal Gear Solid 4 today, despite having no experience with the other ones, sans the NES game, and it's a bit weird and confusing. Needless to say, I'm enjoying it.

[abyssion1337]

I've been playing Alchemy Meister. it's fun


WAIT WAIT WAIT HOLD UP. YOU'VE NEVER PLAYED DISGAEA?

[tanis_lionheart]

Seems interesting enough. I'll be sure to check it out eventually.
On a different note, I've started playing Metal Gear Solid 4 today, despite having no experience with the other ones, sans the NES game, and it's a bit weird and confusing. Needless to say, I'm enjoying it.
So you start with the WEAKEST link in the main series?

Ouch....ya should have saved your money and got the MGS HD Collection.
;)

[Haar]

WAIT WAIT WAIT HOLD UP. YOU'VE NEVER PLAYED DISGAEA?

Do I even seem like the type of person who would play Disgaea? And yes, I'm expecting more to your reasoning than "But dude, you obviously like SRPGs"


So you start with the WEAKEST link in the main series?

Ouch....ya should have saved your money and got the MGS HD Collection.
;)

Luckily, it's a rental. I might go to a store today and by the HD collection, however. I conveniently purchased one of those PS3 component cables yesterday and I'm trying to test them out, still.

[Backmask]

So you start with the WEAKEST link in the main series?

Ouch....ya should have saved your money and got the MGS HD Collection.
;)

I don't know about it being the weakest link. The lack of stealth emphasis was disappointing and the gameplay was different, but I found it to be more entertaining than MGS2 (Obligatory statement).

[LawRayLiet]

I don't know about it being the weakest link. The lack of stealth emphasis was disappointing and the gameplay was different, but I found it to be more entertaining than MGS2 (Obligatory statement).

I second second this.
My favorite has to be MGS3: Snake Eater.
I might put MGS4 second in line, although I may put MGS1 ahead for seniority as the classic though.
MGS2 is probably last on my list of the main series.


On a different note, I've started playing Metal Gear Solid 4 today, despite having no experience with the other ones, sans the NES game, and it's a bit weird and confusing. Needless to say, I'm enjoying it.

With all that being said though, it's probably not a good idea to start out on MGS4, since it's the culmination of the series and references back so much because of it.
In short, you wont be able to fully appreciate it., not saying you still wont enjoy it though.

[Haar]

With all that being said though, it's probably not a good idea to start out on MGS4, since it's the culmination of the series and references back so much because of it.
In short, you wont be able to fully appreciate it., not saying you still wont enjoy it though.

Is using Wikipedia out of the question?

[abyssion1337]

Disgaea was a huge success though, if Atlus didn't take the risk of publishing it in the US NIS wouldn't have lasted long enough to make Soul Nomad.

[tanis_lionheart]

Disgaea was a huge success though, if Atlus didn't take the risk of publishing it in the US NIS wouldn't have lasted long enough to make Soul Nomad.
O, Soul Nomad...such a great game.

[jinzo64]

i'm still waiting for tales of graces to come in the post.
still item/level grinding in the last story on the wii while i wait for pandoras tower to come out in the u.k.

[Haar]

In other news, I feel inclined to buy a new PS2 to replace my broken one, so I can finally finish playing Kingdom Hearts II and Final Fantasy XII.

[Backmask]

Kingdom Hearts is ****, broski.

[Haar]

It's really more of an OCD thing at this point, Back. I was getting sort of sick of that game, but at the same time, I couldn't let it win, so to speak.

I never quit a game once I start, no matter how lackluster.

Also: inb4 page-long Kingdom Hearts discussion

[jinzo64]

kingdom hearts was a great game but now the frenchise is just another cash cow for square enix
3 ps2 games
1 gba game
2 ds games
1 psp game
and some there will be a 3ds game

harr what game are you getting sick off.

[Backmask]

Kingdom Hearts is nothing more than a glorified fan-fiction that has a plot ( And I use the word plot loosely) that has not advanced and probably won't advance, repetitive game play, monotonous voice-acting, terrible villains, and angsty over-tones.

[Haar]

I was referring to Kingdom Hearts II, jinzo. The ridiculously long tutorial at the beginning of the game sort of put me off from the actually enjoyable parts after that.

[Haar]

Kingdom Hearts is nothing more than a glorified fan-fiction that has a plot ( And I use the word plot loosely) that has not advanced and probably won't advance, repetitive game play, monotonous voice-acting, terrible villains, and angsty over-tones.

So it's every super-popular shonen anime ever?

[tanis_lionheart]

In other news, I feel inclined to buy a new PS2 to replace my broken one, so I can finally finish playing Kingdom Hearts II and Final Fantasy XII.
As someone with over 400 PS2 games (Cause I collect them) I say...
Well...DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! !!


I love the PS2, I REALLY do.

[jinzo64]

i see i own it but havn't played it yet
i'm more of a game collector at this point.
but i did finish the ds game KH 365/2 days

Kingdom Hearts is nothing more than a glorified fan-fiction that has a plot ( And I use the word plot loosely) that has not advanced and probably won't advance, repetitive game play, monotonous voice-acting, terrible villains, and angsty over-tones.

damn it's awkward how right that is but i still like playing the KH games.

[jinzo64]

Kingdom Hearts is nothing more than a glorified fan-fiction that has a plot ( And I use the word plot loosely) that has not advanced and probably won't advance, repetitive game play, monotonous voice-acting, terrible villains, and angsty over-tones.


So it's every super-popular shonen anime ever?

simple answer yes

[Haar]

As someone with over 400 PS2 games (Cause I collect them) I say...
Well...DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! !!

And now you've forced me to bust out the country music.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQkruXqWqu4

Seriously though, I found a site (http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/intro.aspx)that might assist some of you PC gamers that have sub-par computers.

[jinzo64]

oh no not country music.

[tanis_lionheart]

And now you've forced me to bust out the country music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQkruXqWqu4
Seriously though, I found a site (http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/intro.aspx)that might assist some of you PC gamers that have sub-par computers.
Huh?

And

I've know about that site for YEARS...pretty good stuff.
It's a way I gauge if I'll buy a game or not for PC.

[Haar]

Huh?

...just forget I mentioned it. You're better off not getting the joke.

[jinzo64]

i don't do p.c gaming.
console gamings easier is this a ps3 game do i have a ps3 if both answers are yes then i can play it no problem.

but p.c gaming is more complicated.
you need to know so much about your computer.
does my computer do this,does it have this,does it run at this rate.

[abyssion1337]

It's really not all that more complex and the benefits to PC gaming outweigh the convenience of console gaming.

[jinzo64]

i'm a man of little inteligance so the convience and ease of console gaming out weighs the benefits of p.c gaming.
well for me it does.

[Haar]

It's really not all that more complex and the benefits to PC gaming outweigh the convenience of console gaming.

We tried this a few pages back. I failed, despite mentioning the existence of USB controllers, LOLWTFBBQ couldn't do it, despite bringing up the advantage of piracy, and even Nodman couldn't, despite giving actual facts and comparison screenshots. It's a lost cause at this point, so I wouldn't even bother if I were you.

[abyssion1337]

Piracy is just one advantage and it's not one I would bring up to sell the idea of PC gaming (lots of people don't like Piracy, for some reason)

[Haar]

We were just pulling random facts and advantages out of our heads to get the point across. Well, I was, anyway...

[Haar]

So... anyone besides me play this yet?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaPl4DSFUQI

[Backmask]

There's a ****in' game? As long as I can play as Kircheis, I'll buy it/ download it/ pirate it.

[Haar]

1. Yes, there is a game. Several, in fact. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes_media#Games)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDooSil2pKg

2. It's an RTS, so yes, you have control over Kircheis and his fleet.

3. Sadly, I can't find an English patch, so I've been having to guess some of the commands, but it's not that much of a hindrance, luckily.

4. I'm still waiting for someone to make a real version of this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykZkAp2Z3qo

[jinzo64]

no i havn't played that but
today i bought
a copy of mgs 3 snake eater
2 copies of mgs 2 sons of liberaty
a copy alone in the dark
and a platinum copy of kh2 sadly no instructions
all this for 10 pound.

[Haar]

Aren't the controls for Kingdom Hearts II basically the same as those of the first Kingdom Hearts?

[jinzo64]

well yes but i personaly like have an instruction book to go with my games.

to be honest i'm going to be selling
KH2,AITD and a copy of MGS 2 Ebay

only wanted MGS 2 and MGS 3
but them on there own cost 6 pound so at an extra 4 pound i decided to get 3 more to try an sell on ebay.

[ThePsychoGamer]

I finished Yakuza Dead Souls, it was ok. The story was great, though there whee one really annoying plot hole. Also I was a bit disappointed with how little we learn about DD considering how important he is to the plot. There where where also some great side missions.

Gameplay though, not so much.

[jinzo64]

well i havn't done much game playing realy just been watching gurren lagenn but with my work hours it's been hard to finish it so hopfully i'l finish it now i have a week of and 4 days of from work.

[bloodlover1987]

damn people bitching to the FTC about mass effect 3 now

[Haar]

damn people bitching to the FTC about mass effect 3 now

You know, I thought you were kidding at first but now that I see that you're not (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401775,00.asp), I don't even know what to say.

[Arock]

people need to clam the **** down, its a game for gods sake, sure i played it, thought almost all of the game was good except the ending but im not about to file a lawsuit (which will most likely be pushed aside) about it

[tanis_lionheart]

Playing 3D Dot Heroes again.

Great game, in small bursts.

[ThePsychoGamer]

Decided not to Platinum Yakuza Dead Souls, it was OK (differently worth a rental) but wasn't nearly as good as the main entries. can't wait till we get a real new Yakuza game in the west.

Speaking of new Yakuza games, I recently read which city Like a Dragon Studio decided to use in Yakuza 5, All five of them. Yakuza 5 will be massive.

[tanis_lionheart]

I hope Y5 gets better game play.

Huge world, mediocre game play.
I've had enough of that with Skyrim.

[ThePsychoGamer]

I hope Y5 gets better game play.

Huge world, mediocre game play.
I've had enough of that with Skyrim.


Should be better then Yakuza 4, but I guess it will depend on how the new engine they are making for Yakuza 5 turns out. The team rarely disappoints

[jinzo64]

i bought MGS SE for 20 pound to apart from a mark on the box it's practicaly mint condition.

[NodMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0Cf864P7E

[jinzo64]

oh is the fact that the franchise ends one of the reasons?

i think they should do a fourth game where shepard wakes up in the shower and it was like the third game never realy happened.

[regnier]

some people think the ending was a dream because when shepard get hit by harbinger laser everything just look like a dream.

[Haar]

This guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG2BMwKwchc

[Kaiju]

some people think the ending was a dream because when shepard get hit by harbinger laser everything just look like a dream.

Or the entire last five minutes was an indoctrination attempt, with the "good ending" being Shepard overcoming it.

[jinzo64]

i heard that all 16 endings are basicaly the same and sheppard dies in all of them.

[regnier]

he "live" in the red ending if you have all the war asset.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prohgapL54Q

[jinzo64]

This guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG2BMwKwchc
this guys insane and his voice is irritating.

oh that ending where they say yeah look he might be alive but he'll most likley die but where doing to tell you.
wher going to leave it open to fanfiction and stippulation

[Backmask]

This guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG2BMwKwchc

I don't know why, but that video reminds me of when I was a child and used those dry-erase boards as a way of playing "games". By playing games, I mean drawing two stick figures, making explosion sounds, and erasing one of them to signify that they were destroyed/killed/defeated, but holy **** that **** was entertaining.
>Make your own games
>Play any game
>Edit any game
>Said games are free
>No batteries
>Dry-erase boards are fairly cheap
>Never crash
>Never run out of memory
>Never requires updates
>Never has to load
>Soundtrack of your choosing
>Voice-acting of your choosing
>Portable as ****

Dear PC Master-race,
Get on our ****ing level.
Sincerely,
Dry-Erase Board Master-race.

[Haar]

Just gonnna leave this here...
http://i42.tinypic.com/2r23gub.jpg

[Kaiju]

How to not get to get the ME Endings: Quit shortly before Harbinger shows up '3'

[jinzo64]

or an even easier way decide the games end with number 2 and not play 3.

[Kaiju]

The Problem with that is that the first 75% of Mass Effect 3 is actually good, (not as good as ME2, but as a game its good) its the final 25% that makes everyone rage.

[tanis_lionheart]

I like punching people in the face.

Yay, GOD HAND!

[Arock]

I don't know why, but that video reminds me of when I was a child and used those dry-erase boards as a way of playing "games". By playing games, I mean drawing two stick figures, making explosion sounds, and erasing one of them to signify that they were destroyed/killed/defeated, but holy **** that **** was entertaining.
>Make your own games
>Play any game
>Edit any game
>Said games are free
>No batteries
>Dry-erase boards are fairly cheap
>Never crash
>Never run out of memory
>Never requires updates
>Never has to load
>Soundtrack of your choosing
>Voice-acting of your choosing
>Portable as ****

Dear PC Master-race,
Get on our ****ing level.
Sincerely,
Dry-Erase Board Master-race.

**** yes, Dry-Erase Boards were the ****

[ThePsychoGamer]

Downloading the demo for Yakuza: Black Panther 2.

[glory of llama]

finished ME3 and:

I am very satisfied. All you haters who think the ending was bad clearly don't appreciate the Left ending's decent-ness for everyone involved.

As for shepherd's living or dying... true, kind of sucks if he dies, but really, he's a hero- if he sacrifices himself in the end, I'm fine with that. Actually, I'd be more worried if he survived... he freaking would have killed the geth that some players may have had him spend a lot of effort trying to SAVE, as well as EDI who he taught to love seth green! I mean, he would have completely erased the meaning of Legion's sacrifice! I had to choose the Control ending. Everyone lives but shep and he doesn't have to betray his principles by killing the geth and EDI.

As to the whole ending idea itself...

Yeah, KILLING EVERYONE every 50,000 years just to stop one kind of lifeform (synthetics) is freaking retarded. I mean at least TTGL didn't have a logical fallacy like that, they were straight up- evolution will freaking destroy the universe. I can accept that idea, logically. Evolution causes creatures to want to consume and replicate, which you could say would mean they'd consume EVERYTHING until nothing is left. Fine. But picking on synthetics? It's a total logical fallacy to create a race of synthetics to kill everyone to prevent a race of synthetics from killing everyone. freaking retarded. and also, why the hell would destroying the reapers necessarily HAVE to kill ALL synthetic life? I call BS! sure the geth have some reaper code in them, but are otherwise pretty darn different. I think the little brat was just being a dick.

So yeah, I'm getting off the Hate on ME3 bandwagon. I likes what they did. Sure it's annoying that really the only thing your choices in the first 90% of the game did was decide how many assets you have and what kind of reputation you have, but otherwise I felt it was a fittingly dramatic end, even with the logic nitpicking.

[jinzo64]

it's not just the fact that shepard.
it's the lack of options at the end that people ae mainly bothered by.
theres 3 right and not 1 of them is to shut down all the enimies but instead the closest options is deactivate all synphetic life in the univerese.
can't remember the other 2 options

[Kaiju]

finished ME3 and:

I am very satisfied. All you haters who think the ending was bad clearly don't appreciate the Left ending's decent-ness for everyone involved.

As for shepherd's living or dying... true, kind of sucks if he dies, but really, he's a hero- if he sacrifices himself in the end, I'm fine with that. Actually, I'd be more worried if he survived... he freaking would have killed the geth that some players may have had him spend a lot of effort trying to SAVE, as well as EDI who he taught to love seth green! I mean, he would have completely erased the meaning of Legion's sacrifice! I had to choose the Control ending. Everyone lives but shep and he doesn't have to betray his principles by killing the geth and EDI.

As to the whole ending idea itself...

Yeah, KILLING EVERYONE every 50,000 years just to stop one kind of lifeform (synthetics) is freaking retarded. I mean at least TTGL didn't have a logical fallacy like that, they were straight up- evolution will freaking destroy the universe. I can accept that idea, logically. Evolution causes creatures to want to consume and replicate, which you could say would mean they'd consume EVERYTHING until nothing is left. Fine. But picking on synthetics? It's a total logical fallacy to create a race of synthetics to kill everyone to prevent a race of synthetics from killing everyone. freaking retarded. and also, why the hell would destroying the reapers necessarily HAVE to kill ALL synthetic life? I call BS! sure the geth have some reaper code in them, but are otherwise pretty darn different. I think the little brat was just being a dick.

So yeah, I'm getting off the Hate on ME3 bandwagon. I likes what they did. Sure it's annoying that really the only thing your choices in the first 90% of the game did was decide how many assets you have and what kind of reputation you have, but otherwise I felt it was a fittingly dramatic end, even with the logic nitpicking.

Well, there is still a few more problems, I.E. the destruction of the Mass Relays which leaves your ENTIRE fleet stranded on a planet your own race can barely survive off of, the Turians and Quarians can't even consume Earth food, so they would likely all starve to death. that and the entire galaxy relied on the Mass Relays for their civilization, and keep in mind the destruction of one mass relay destroyed an entire system, do you imagine how many BILLIONS if not TRILLIONS Shepard has killed by all of the Mass Relay's destruction? And the plot holes, for one, WHY THE **** IS THE NORMANDY running away? And how the **** did my two squadmates who were on the ground with me on earth get aboard the normandy (and leave me behind) and chicken out? Its out of character for my squad (especially Liara, Garrus, Tali and Ashley/Kaiden), Joker and the entire Normandy Crew to abandon the fight to end all fights and better yet ABANDON ME. It makes no sense... at all. If you have little knowledge of Mass Effect, then the ending is okay (if ripped straight from Deus Ex), but no. The Ending ****s on the entire universe I helped flesh out for three full games, no, the ending is STILL ****. And what about the little brat? He's a villain Sue who is introduced at the last five minutes, created the reapers *which takes all mystery and cosmic horror away from them* gives bull**** logic that a fanfiction could write better, and even worse SHEPARD believes everyword he says without a question... that makes no sense. Especially for a Paragon or a Renegade Shepard...

[simpleton216]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ1Os9TnHP0

[jinzo64]

can't wait for tales of graces and pandoras tower.

[NodMan]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/122/1221273p1.html


finished ME3 and:

I am very satisfied. All you haters who think the ending was bad clearly don't appreciate the Left ending's decent-ness for everyone involved.

As for shepherd's living or dying... true, kind of sucks if he dies, but really, he's a hero- if he sacrifices himself in the end, I'm fine with that. Actually, I'd be more worried if he survived... he freaking would have killed the geth that some players may have had him spend a lot of effort trying to SAVE, as well as EDI who he taught to love seth green! I mean, he would have completely erased the meaning of Legion's sacrifice! I had to choose the Control ending. Everyone lives but shep and he doesn't have to betray his principles by killing the geth and EDI.

As to the whole ending idea itself...

Yeah, KILLING EVERYONE every 50,000 years just to stop one kind of lifeform (synthetics) is freaking retarded. I mean at least TTGL didn't have a logical fallacy like that, they were straight up- evolution will freaking destroy the universe. I can accept that idea, logically. Evolution causes creatures to want to consume and replicate, which you could say would mean they'd consume EVERYTHING until nothing is left. Fine. But picking on synthetics? It's a total logical fallacy to create a race of synthetics to kill everyone to prevent a race of synthetics from killing everyone. freaking retarded. and also, why the hell would destroying the reapers necessarily HAVE to kill ALL synthetic life? I call BS! sure the geth have some reaper code in them, but are otherwise pretty darn different. I think the little brat was just being a dick.

So yeah, I'm getting off the Hate on ME3 bandwagon. I likes what they did. Sure it's annoying that really the only thing your choices in the first 90% of the game did was decide how many assets you have and what kind of reputation you have, but otherwise I felt it was a fittingly dramatic end, even with the logic nitpicking.

You obviously don't get the biggest problem with the ending as it sits do you? Mass Relays go Boom, in all endings. Which means everyone in the Milky Way no matter where they are cannot go anywhere. In Mass Effect 2 is was stated even with the Normandy 2's super fast FTL (Faster Than Light) drive that it would take them years to get from one solar system to the next. So basically no matter what ending you pick, no matter your decisions during the games, or what you saved you still end up ****ing over the whole Galaxy more than the Reapers would have. So yah Shepard, becomes a Hero in the respect of stopping the Reapers but ultimately dooms the Galaxy even more in his decisions.

[jinzo64]

then they make ME4 and it was all a dream.

hey but that is an awful way to end the franchise, but then with the mass relays gone where will the space arrmarda that came to help shepard go for food?
they'll haveto eat each other.

[Kaiju]

then they make ME4 and it was all a dream.

hey but that is an awful way to end the franchise, but then with the mass relays gone where will the space arrmarda that came to help shepard go for food?
they'll haveto eat each other.

The Krogans will at least. :P

They are like the Honey Badgers of Mass Effect, they just don't care '3'

[jinzo64]

i see so honey badgers will eat anything.

with a name like honey badger i thought they only ate honey and tree sap.
http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/526684-bigthumbnail.jpg

[Kaiju]

i see so honey badgers will eat anything.

with a name like honey badger i thought they only ate honey and tree sap.
http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/526684-bigthumbnail.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg

[jinzo64]

the honey badgers awsome.
i want one as a pet.

oh on gaming news my copy of tales of graces came today

[Haar]

Gotta finish up Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, one of these days.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnUICs6W3d8

[jinzo64]

i want to finish tales of symphonia dawn of the new world and persona 3 portable

[Haar]

So... Gurren Lagann is in a turn-based game. Always saw that coming.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmjLNZOuw2A

Now if only there was a game like Another Century's episode game for TTGL...

[jinzo64]

is that the ds game?
well i hope so as i've only found gurren lagann games for the ds and that was on ebay

[Haar]

It's a PSP Game. Super Robot Wars Z2. There are a few DS and GBA SRW games, but Gurren Lagann isn't in any of them. Furthermore, the ones that don't use original characters usually aren't localized.

That is to say, only the "Original Generation" games are brought over, for the most part.

There was also a Super Robot Wars anime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF2btGnyc4g

[jinzo64]

when i typed in gurren lagann all i got was this.
well i narrowed the search to games only.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=gurren+lagann&_sacat=1249&_odkw=gurren+lagann&_osacat=0

[Haar]

Super Robot Wars games don't ever have the names of the individual series included in the title. That's usually for the player to find out. There are a few constants, though: excluding Original Generation games, there will always be some variation of Mazinger Z or a Gundam available.

[jinzo64]

that makes finding games awkward.
you think they would have they name of the anime or manga in the games name for clarification.

[Haar]

That would require like 30 names per game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XllaY8Ys_Es

[jinzo64]

what do you mean?

[Haar]

If Banpresto were to list every individual anime in the title of a game, that would end up looking very clustered.

Imagine this:

Super Robot Wars: Featuring Space Knight Tekkaman Blade, Gekiganger 3, Armored Trooper Votoms, Daiku Maryu Gaiking, Gunubster, Diebuster, Cybuster, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Mazinkaiser SKL, Mobile Fighter G Gundam, Daitarn 3, Mazinger Z, Zambot 3, and Fang of the Sun Dougram!

Order Now!

titles would be somewhere around that length for each game.

[jinzo64]

oh i see you were on about that franchise on it's own.

i missunderstood and thought you meant mecha anime video games in general.

what no MEGAS XLR or Transformers

edit almost forgot
things like this ->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-GWurZaMgM&feature=g-u-u&context=G26771adFUAAAAAAAAAA
and things like that ->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9mxWNXmuRI&feature=context&context=G26771adFUAAAAAAAAAA

[Haar]

Nope, neither of those. They try to focus on Japanese franchises. The Japanese do have something fairly close to Transformers in the form of the Brave series mechs, however. Of course, due to licensing issues, only GaoGaiGar can actually be used in Super Robot Wars games. No hope for J-Decker, Might Gaine, et cetera.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT7wIIE_L_4
(yes, that was Link's Voice Actor)

[jinzo64]

i always think it's pity that more of these games don't make it out of japan.
we occasionaly get bleach and dbz and now and then i see gundam games around but it's very rare that you see alot of the other anime games make it.

[Haar]

It's a licensing thing, apparently. Considering half of these franchises weren't brought outside of Japan, licensing them would be next to impossible. I've seen very few games released outside of Japan where the anime they were based on weren't released in the country the game was being localized to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8wtZ8vo-bc

[jinzo64]

it's still a pity.
i'm looking forward to the launch of pandoras tower on wii

[Haar]

I might by a copy of Super Robot Wars Z2 one of these days. Might even try to find that Brave series game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIKVn9W-31I

[jinzo64]

oh i heard a rumour that sony might be doing a fighting game in a simaler style to the smash bros franchise for the ps3 and vita

[Haar]

This won't be the first time Sony's copied Nintendo.
http://zapp5.staticworld.net/news/graphics/191247-playstation-move-2_original.jpg

Of course some fans will disregard that along with every other fact...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyufDxxWIsM

[jinzo64]

well that means sony is run by saiyans.
you know what they say monkey see monkey do

[Haar]

To be fair, a lot of games and companies are based around "borrowed" ideas.

[jinzo64]

yes i guess thats true.

theres a guy on youtube doing a series called games like zelda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56P4b0rKaZ8&feature=g-u-u&context=G2231b4eFUAAAAAAAMAA

[MADEVIL]

Looks like Dragon Age and Mass Effect will get an anime

http://kotaku.com/5895651/mass-effect-anime-starring-james-vega-will-be-released-this-fall

[tanis_lionheart]

Wing Commander Saga The Darkest Dawn Launches (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116473-Wing-Commander-Saga-The-Darkest-Dawn-Launches)

SQUEE!!